Because my touch pro was bought from three Australia it had been modified to only have wcdma and auto in the band selection in the phone settings. Three do not like customers using telstra for roaming, and for most it is probably a good idea to avoid roaming charges on data.
I however like to force my phone to stay on gsm while I am at work because the 3g signal is so weak. All the seeking and switching bands in a low signal environment drains my battery too fast.
After looking around the Raphael thread I saw no mention of this so here is a solution. A while ago user SecureGSM gave us access to a cab he had made for enableing the band tab on other phones. It turns out that his cab also puts the correct values back to allow the selection of gsm only. I attach a copy of it here, it works for me with no bad side effects.
i have installed this : "Nadavi_HTC_Diamond_-_NEW_CommManager.cab"
and simply changed from 3 to GSM under COMM MANAGER..
is your one any better?
Hi,
i am a three user here as well and might have the same problem as you guys,
but as i was wondering, if by forcing the phone to use a GSM network, what if we need to use the data allowance? will we be charged?
as i am on an essential pack where i get 100mb of data usage for 8bucks paid per month, however that will only be deducted off my 100mb allowance when i am in a 3g zone.
Any other good app to stop data connection when not in 3g zone? coz i really dont wanna be charged a hell lot when accidentally using roaming data fees.
Hi guys are we able to select the WCDMA (3G) 900mhz band with any of these apps?
The device has the radio for this but because the 3 network doesnt support this frequency its absent as an option so if i wanted to use it on the Optus or Vodafone 3G 900 i cant as it currently stands.
The silly thing about it is they have the 850 band in the tab but it wont operate on the nextg network as that band is absent from the radio.
Thanks
leejiahui said:
Hi,
i am a three user here as well and might have the same problem as you guys,
but as i was wondering, if by forcing the phone to use a GSM network, what if we need to use the data allowance? will we be charged?
as i am on an essential pack where i get 100mb of data usage for 8bucks paid per month, however that will only be deducted off my 100mb allowance when i am in a 3g zone.
Any other good app to stop data connection when not in 3g zone? coz i really dont wanna be charged a hell lot when accidentally using roaming data fees.
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No, if you are roaming you're subject to those exorbitant roaming data charges, which aren't included in any packs or caps. In terms of data connections, you can just go to the TouchFlo settings tab, select communications and turn off data...
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Hello,
So i've got this nicely unlocked, shiny, G2x. (Running MIUI right now, please don't judge me) Anyways, I'm in Morocco, and am trying to use Maroc Telecom (IAM) which has 3g data (their site even claims HSPA+) and these are the frequencys they use:
GSM 900 / GSM 1800 / UMTS 2100
And copy pasted from the T-Mobile website, the G2x uses:
Quad band GSM (850/900/1800/1900 MHz), Dual band UMTS (1700/2100 MHZ Bands 1 & 4)
To me that looks compatible. Trouble is, i'm getting no data whatsoever, not even 2g, in an area that I know should have at least 3g. I've signed up for the plan correctly, I'm sure of that. And my G2x automatically picked up the APN settings when I first turned it on (and I verified that they are correct) but still not a hint of internet access. This is driving me crazy!! any hints would be greatly appreciated.
Just guessing, but does it think you're roaming. Maybe try enabling data roaming to see if it recognizes the data then.
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Just guessing, but does it think you're roaming. Maybe try enabling data roaming to see if it recognizes the data then.
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It wouldn't be roaming if he bought a sim for that system as he says. Probably APN has a typo or not selected. Have to push radio button so it has a green dot to enable the APN. If that doesn't work then contact carrier to reset data on the account. I have had to do that in the past here in Thailand. Have you also tried turning the phone off and on, or doing airplane mode. Sometimes that is needed once.
Thanks for the responses!
Unfortunately, i've tried and double tried all those things, except getting the carrier to reset the data plan. I'll do that next. Now I just have to get through a bunch of menus in French & Arabic
Are you running Market Enabler. It can screw you up royally if you change sim and it was set to fake at boot. I had that on a Nexus One and had to factory reset the phone to get data working again when I changed sim.
Thanks for the advice. I don't think i'm faking my sim - unless that's something that comes with CM07 and I just don't know about it. Also I tried it on stock before flashing with no different result, so i'm pretty sure that's not it. Went to the office of Maroc Telecom, who replaced my sim (but still no luck) and an INWI sim which i'd previously been able to get 2g coverage on now gives me nothing. It is the weirdest thing and I feel stuck. Has anyone actually gotten a g2x to work on any other network?? is there some sort of Tmobile lock which is preventing me because i'm not using a tmobile sim? (And i'm not talking about the phone being 'locked', obviously i've gotten it unlocked, and can make calls just fine, and did have that short spell of 2g data on INWI) Anyways, i'm about ready to throw this very expensive phone out the window, because what is a smartphone without data?? Thanks anyways for your advice.
same, problem.
How can I solve it?
Maybe try to use other broadband?
I use my G2X in Thailand on TOT3G with no problems. They run 3G on Band 1 (2100/1900). Figure out what band it is. There about fifteen different 3G bands in use. Most people don't realize it but 3G radios use two frequency spectrums at the same time. There is an uplink and downlink. For example 2100 Band 1 uses 2100Mhz downlink and a 1900Mhz uplink. Band 4 is 1700Mhz uplink and 2100Mhz downlink. So the 3G radio in the G2X also transmits on 1900Mhz. But the 1900 Band 2 uses 1800Mhz as an uplink, which the 3G radio in the G2X doesn't support. Most companies that say they are on 2100Mhz are referring to Band 1. If they are running Band 1 the G2X definitely supports it. If you have sim unlocked the phone there is nothing preventing you from getting 3G reception on any carrier in the world.
Download "Network" (https://market.android.com/details?id=de.mangelow.network&feature=search_result) from the Android Market and run it. Scroll down to where it says what type of connection you want and make sure "WCDMA preferred" is selected. If the phone somehow got set to "2G only" you will never get 3G reception until you change it. That happened to me once on a Nexus One and took me a while to figure it out.
CM7 and some other custom roms are known to be having connectivity issues. I suggest you flash back to stock and make sure your apn is correct. If your apn is wrong in any way, the connection will be refused by the cell system.
answer to problem with 3G
engadget[dot]com/2011/04/27/t-mobile-g2x-lacks-quadband-hspa-shatters-dreams/
So, I have working 2G, and 3G(only data, calls are not working)
Rom: WeaponG2x.
Have you tried hard reset (press and hold vol^ and power) till it restarts..
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Have you tried hard reset (press and hold vol^ and power) till it restarts..
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For the what?
Hello, this sounds interesting to me. In fact, I do not have an active 3G data plan or 4G and I am currently using 2G. However, when I set the airplane mode off and the phone starts to pick up 2G signal from cell towers, it also pick up the 3G signal too. In fact, I can see on the signal strength bar a 3G or H+ icon that are constantly changing with some up and down arrow signs that indicate that my phone might be downloading and uploading data. Can anyone explains this phenomenon? For sure, I can not access to the Internet without Wifi.
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Hello, this sounds interesting to me. In fact, I do not have an active 3G data plan or 4G and I am currently using 2G. However, when I set the airplane mode off and the phone starts to pick up 2G signal from cell towers, it also pick up the 3G signal too. In fact, I can see on the signal strength bar a 3G or H+ icon that are constantly changing with some up and down arrow signs that indicate that my phone might be downloading and uploading data. Can anyone explains this phenomenon? For sure, I can not access to the Internet without Wifi.
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go to settings-mobile networks and there will be option for mode
if the mode selected if gsm/wcdma - then ur phone will pick up 3g signal if it's available in the area irrespective of ur plan..this means ur carrier has activated 3g services..u can deactivate by selecting mode: gsm only!(2g mode)
wcdma mode is 3g only!
hope this is helped!
If you truly can't have 3g on your plan, phones will communicate with towers due to the requirements to have a phone be able to call 911 even if it is not activated at all.
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this has happened to me before as well
Maybe it's just scanning the available networks or something? Do you have data connection disabled at your device?
What is this thing about a 3G data plan?
A data plan is a data plan. Your speed depends on your phone hardware and what your provider had installed in your area...
At least that's how it works here in Norway, they can and do limit our download speeds after a certain amount of data is transferred as I assume they do elsewhere, but even when I pass that threshold my phone reports using 3G...
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What is this thing about a 3G data plan?
A data plan is a data plan. Your speed depends on your phone hardware and what your provider had installed in your area...
At least that's how it works here in Norway, they can and do limit our download speeds after a certain amount of data is transferred as I assume they do elsewhere, but even when I pass that threshold my phone reports using 3G...
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the situation is not same everywhere...
like in India and more countries, 2g and 3g services have different rates and are users can opt whether they want a 3g plan or 2g plan....although speed is more in 3g!
on the device the preferred network type is LTE but most of the time it falls back to HSPA mode and not LTE how do you force the LTE mode only? My location get's 3-4 bars for LTE coverage and all 5 bars for HSPA but LTE is faster
Dial *#*#4636#*#* on the keypad and under phone settings there is LTE only. Your phone won't work for calls possibly after you do this and you won't get data outside of an lte area.
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coorsleftfield said:
Dial *#*#4636#*#* on the keypad and under phone settings there is LTE only. Your phone won't work for calls possibly after you do this and you won't get data outside of an lte area.
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Thank You. Yes it did work but changed it back since I need my cell phone to be a cell phone for calls
sillyshyme said:
Thank You. Yes it did work but changed it back since I need my cell phone to be a cell phone for calls
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How do you change it back? Mine keeps reverting back to LTE only and I am unable to make and receive calls.
Did you get calling back?
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on the device the preferred network type is LTE but most of the time it falls back to HSPA mode and not LTE how do you force the LTE mode only? My location get's 3-4 bars for LTE coverage and all 5 bars for HSPA but LTE is faster
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man, i grepped a whole thread in relation to this very issue, it's a very imformitave read on LTE network overlays on legacy & upgrading cellular & the intro to these single chip, single pathed qualcomm snapdrgon families, but it got closed;
the nexus 5 only has one chip to handle all networking, from wifi, voice calls, to bluetooth;
it's doing quadruple duty, a question, what technology are you using, gsm, or cdma?
~edit~
nevermind it, you mentioned hspa, so it is gsm..
i'm reading up on lte to gsm handover right now.. lol
j'vai said:
man, i grepped a whole thread in relation to this very issue, it's a very imformitave read on LTE network overlays on legacy & upgrading cellular & the intro to these single chip, single pathed qualcomm snapdrgon families, but it got closed;
the nexus 5 only has one chip to handle all networking, from wifi, voice calls, to bluetooth;
it's doing quadruple duty, a question, what technology are you using, gsm, or cdma?
~edit~
nevermind it, you mentioned hspa, so it is gsm..
i'm reading up on lte to gsm handover right now.. lol
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5 month old thread that was necro'd
Zepius said:
5 month old thread that was necro'd
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issue solved?
What does this mean?
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What does this mean?
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that's what i'd like to know.. lol
necro'd as in meaning; left'd to wither inthe wind, or because it's 5 months old, it's not worth posting to anymore..
that's why i asked if the issue was solved, there's threads, & posted STILL asking about LTE faulty connections scattered all over the place, so i guess the issue isn't solved in relation to this handset..
i'm in the school of thought, that like a car, or any tool one would use, it's best to grasp a critical understanding of what it's being used ON..
(am i wrong in this assessment?)
from there, once you understand the build of your tool, you compare it what it's being used on, with it's pros & cons; heighten it's pros, lessen it's cons..
wen i went to mexico just two weeks ago, i ordered two telcel prepaid sim cards to use for that 5 day stretch, i noticed i only got version 5 sim cards that didn't do lte that telcel provided, i called back & asked why, & was told that yes, telcel DID provide lte, but not in the area i was visiting, the highest i would get was hspa+, & only in mexico city & within cancun proper would lte be utilied..
knowing this, & knowing i would be off the beaten path on the beach & not in the major city, i opted for the cards sent, settling for the highest hpsa+ speeds..
maybe not all of us, but many of us, purchase our vehicles (& phones) based on critical knowledge of the phone & network in unison, **if we want more utilization from our hansets**
remember that scene - http://nilvideos.blogspot.com/2008/09/transporter-bank-robbery_17.html
I don't want to try disabling the hspa and calling without knowing I can flip it back on easily..
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I don't want to try disabling the hspa and calling without knowing I can flip it back on easily..
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hey, are you on tmobile?
if so, tmobile's roaming is set within it's sim, *unless you manually select a particular nework*
"The device detects and registers on wireless networks inside T-Mobile’s calling area, but roaming networks are usually restricted to T-Mobile SIM cards. You can manually select a network only in areas where T-Mobile does not own GSM spectrum." - ~attachment~
our nexus 5s use single chip, single pathed radios, only one path is used at one time, right?
on the network side, things can be set up pretty differently -
3.3 SUBSCRIBER DATA ASPECTS: USIM/ISIM
Coexistence of LTE with WCDMA/HSPA and GSM Network requires a smooth transition of home location
register HLR towards HSS based on 3GPP specifications. This also helps in providing next generation
Data Layered Architecture that addresses operator’s needs regarding centralization of subscriber data
used for authentication across multiple layers of the same session.
The SIM/USIM is the security token in 2G/3G networks for authenticating a subscriber in the operator’s
HLR. The USIM will continue to provide user authentication function at the access level to the LTE
network.
However, it is necessary to define a mechanism for service level authentication as well, for services such
as the IMS. The ISIM (an application on the UICC) is defined to hold both the user’s access level
credentials and the IMS Private User Identity that is stored in the HSS. The ISIM enables the user to
authenticate to the LTE operator’s IMS network and access its services.
3.4 ROAMING SCENARIOS
There are two roaming scenarios based on home tunneling compared to home tunneling with the
possibility of local breakout as shown in Figure 9. The 2G/3G networks refer to legacy CS or PC based
accesses like GSM/WCDMA in the network
http://www.4gamericas.org/documents/4G_Americas_Coexistence_of_GSM_HSPA_LTE_May%202011x.pdf
to set up domestic roaming on this type of handset ACTUALLY make you roam moreso on other US networks, even though the sim card is provisioned with what network is OK'd?
we're not talking from an older, dual pathed chip paradigm, when that meant exactly *that*..
these newer phones are different beasts..
Yes I'm on T-Mobile.
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Yes I'm on T-Mobile.
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LTE has an all IP backbone, with no circuit switching mechanism, the network would provide that, & from my understanding from reading up on it, wcdma provides the **IP flattening** for voice on the gsm networks, just as ehrpd does for cdma networks..
what would happen if you switch on domestic roaming in -
APN & data settings
To set the Access Point Name (APN) and turn on data settings, follow these steps:
1.From any Home screen, tap the All appsAll Apps.pngicon.
2.Tap Settings.
3.Under 'WIRELESS & NETWORKS," tap More... to display more options.
4.Tap Mobile networks.
5.Check the Data enabled check box.
6.Check the Data roaming check box to receive data when roaming domestically
7.Uncheck the Data roaming check box when roaming internationally to avoid incurring roaming charges.
8.Tap Access Point Names
9.Choose from the following:•MetroPCS - fast.metropcs.com
•T-Mobile GPRS
•T-Mobile GPRS - fast.t-mobile.com
do you think you'd simply, roam on another provider?
i suspect it would aid your phone in it's LTE to GSM voice handling..
i suspect strongly.. setting it to *LTE* in -
Switch 2G / 4G / LTE
To change the band between 2G, 4G, and LTE, follow these steps:
1.From any Home screen, tap the All appsAll Apps.pngicon.
2.Tap Settings.
3.Under 'WIRELESS & NETWORKS," tap More... to display more options.
4.Tap Mobile networks.
5.Tap Preferred Network Selection.
6.Choose from the following:•LTE
•3G
•2G
..........................
on yet another note,, your handset may be functioning more properly than you could imagine; in your OP
"on the device the preferred network type is LTE but most of the time it falls back to HSPA mode and not LTE how do you force the LTE mode only? My location get's 3-4 bars for LTE coverage and all 5 bars for HSPA but LTE is faster"
tmobile's LTE may simply be having issues for a spell, to be worked out at a later date, & you're falling back on hspa+ asa failsafe..
you may not have to change a darn thing..
In the Palo Alto area LTE doesn't always stay on and the HSPA+ does not actually transfer any data. Sometimes hspa+ is on when weak LTE is available. In situations where I want wreak LTE over strong but useless hspa+ I need to force LTE not just prefer it
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Hi everyone. Quick question. I searched but didn't find much, but I was wanting to use LTE only (*#*#4636#*#*, Phone, LTE Only), and it does work but on Sprint, it disables 1x and pretends like the phone has no coverage and then does the "Searching for Service" and the battery drains like crazy. Any ideas?
MrObvious said:
Hi everyone. Quick question. I searched but didn't find much, but I was wanting to use LTE only (*#*#4636#*#*, Phone, LTE Only), and it does work but on Sprint, it disables 1x and pretends like the phone has no coverage and then does the "Searching for Service" and the battery drains like crazy. Any ideas?
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That mode disables all voice and texting abilities, I don't think you can use that on a phone, especially not a phone on Sprint.
turn it back, if the phone doesn't think it has a good enough signal to use LTE, trust it and drop to 3G you'll be better off.
Use global setting for Sprint
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I don't want 3g though because my phone has the power to get a signal but if it gets down to 1 bar roughly (driving between towers and I'm in a fairly big city so it's not a coverage/reception issue) and it drops to 3g, despite the fact that it'll get stronger if it waits 5 more seconds.
you can not get/make phonecalls on lte only, period. its for data only.
indeed. setting it through the dialer to lte only, makes that lte data channel the only channel, it kills the ehrpd / 1x cdma 200 ip hand-off needed for voice paging to & from the network..
but NOW i know WHY you were forcing lte only via the dialer (didn't know at 1st)
but where you are (if you're on srpint) this is what' was reported happening -
Sprint used to have "same-as-native" 3G service in the western half of Kansas via those carriers, and even used to show it as Native on their coverage maps. Then it changed to Off-Network roaming a couple years ago. They even stopped Native service along I-70 through most of Kansas and eastern Colorado. Sounds like some of those carriers aren't being too accommodating to Sprint nowadays.
via the HoFo App
i didn't know, the hometown of sprint, was having such a hard time covering, it's own home state..
j'vai said:
indeed. setting it through the dialer to lte only, makes that lte data channel the only channel, it kills the ehrpd / 1x cdma 200 ip hand-off needed for voice paging to & from the network..
but NOW i know WHY you were forcing lte only via the dialer (didn't know at 1st)
but where you are (if you're on srpint) this is what' was reported happening -
Sprint used to have "same-as-native" 3G service in the western half of Kansas via those carriers, and even used to show it as Native on their coverage maps. Then it changed to Off-Network roaming a couple years ago. They even stopped Native service along I-70 through most of Kansas and eastern Colorado. Sounds like some of those carriers aren't being too accommodating to Sprint nowadays.
via the HoFo App
i didn't know, the hometown of sprint, was having such a hard time covering, it's own home state..
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That's inaccurate for me as I'm in central KS. That only applies for west KS. I'm in a native market with LTE, NV, and band 25 and 26.
MrObvious said:
I don't want 3g though because my phone has the power to get a signal but if it gets down to 1 bar roughly (driving between towers and I'm in a fairly big city so it's not a coverage/reception issue) and it drops to 3g, despite the fact that it'll get stronger if it waits 5 more seconds.
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ok.. central ks..
what were your settings prior, to lte only?
Just LTE/CDMA. There are times I want to set LTE only so I don't drop 4g. Of course I have service with that setting.
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you know, that going via the keypad to set LTE only you'll kill the fall back bridge to 1xrtt voice & evdo 3g, right?
& every time you want to have voice service you'd have to do the toggle to undo LTE only , then when you want it back LTE only ..
you say "you don't want evdo 3g" but the devil in the details are, you'll not have voice service ither, that way..
is it worth that trouble?
Is there a way to see and change the LTE BAND that my phone is on? Rogers support aws, 2600, 700. So I was wondering if I could manually change between them. The S5 has that option in the hidden menu, so I'm hoping I could do the same on this one.
Thanks.
The phone choose the band himself, if he don't find bands authorized by your phone company, he can't use them.
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Is there a way to see and change the LTE BAND that my phone is on? Rogers support aws, 2600, 700. So I was wondering if I could manually change between them. The S5 has that option in the hidden menu, so I'm hoping I could do the same on this one.
Thanks.
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*#*#46363#*#* > Phone information > Set Preferred Network Type > 'LTE/GSM auto (PRL)'
That's as far as you can get in telling it what network to operate on. It won't let you select specific bands (at least not stock). Mine was set to 'TD-SCDMA, GSM and LTE' out of the box (international version) and since I don't plan to use my phone in China anytime soon, it didn't make sense for the phone to waste resources searching for a TD-SCDMA (China's homebrew 4G) signal. Haven't noticed much improvement to my LTE signal though, still the weakest radio I've seen in a 'flagship' in a while.
Thanks.
I am also on Rogers.
Does that mean when I am on the phone, it will revert to EDGE instead of 3g by using the LTE-edge setting?
I have major issues with reception on this phone.
LTE Works Fine but the 3G/H+ signal is awful, absolute disaster on this phone. It is extremely, extremely weak. And I lose coverage often and over 50% of the times my calls go straight to voicemail because Rogers uses 2g/3g for calling. The phone can't drop back to 2G or 3G in time to receive calls when on LTE
Rly frustrating. Have tried playing with all the settings.
Same issue
hashim71 said:
I have major issues with reception on this phone.
LTE Works Fine but the 3G/H+ signal is awful, absolute disaster on this phone. It is extremely, extremely weak. And I lose coverage often and over 50% of the times my calls go straight to voicemail because Rogers uses 2g/3g for calling. The phone can't drop back to 2G or 3G in time to receive calls when on LTE
Rly frustrating. Have tried playing with all the settings.
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I'm having issues with 3G H+ too. Dont know its CM issue or not coz I had nice H+ signals on Color OS...
Can't even use internet data. most of the time network drops after using internet for a bit.. Network just suddenly gone and after that it comes back with no internet. Internet comes back online after a while...
Really worried.. and annoyed coz can't seem to find any solve for this. Even Mahdi rom had this issue..