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T-Mobile website has the WM 6.0 update for the DASH but not the MDA.
ok and ur mad.. why?
So please - lock in, download and share.
lol
i went to the site and the only update is for tmobile dash. thats all i saw. so please let me know if i am wrong
Thats correct. Windows mobile 6 will only be offered for upgrade for the T-mobile dash.
As we all know, the MDA has been discontinued and will be replaced with "the wing"
The wing will come with wm6 preinstalled. In my opinion, its a worthless phone. It's the SAME processor speed, and there are no tactile buttons on front for messaging or internet. instead, the messaging button on the side and there is no more browser button.
Sure it has a 2MP camera... but NO flash!
One of the "perks" is that it has a spring loaded slide out keyboard.... another opporunity for something to break if u ask me.
But does it really matter if t-mobile doesn't have wm6? All the great chefs will be able to get their hands on the official wm6 and tweak it for us anyway. Standard roms are horrid. And the unofficial wm6 roms by the very talented ichefs in these forums are working close to flawless
marscandybars said:
Thats correct. Windows mobile 6 will only be offered for upgrade for the T-mobile dash.
As we all know, the MDA has been discontinued and will be replaced with "the wing"
The wing will come with wm6 preinstalled. In my opinion, its a worthless phone. It's the SAME processor speed, and there are no tactile buttons on front for messaging or internet. instead, the messaging button on the side and there is no more browser button.
Sure it has a 2MP camera... but NO flash!
One of the "perks" is that it has a spring loaded slide out keyboard.... another opporunity for something to break if u ask me.
But does it really matter if t-mobile doesn't have wm6? All the great chefs will be able to get their hands on the official wm6 and tweak it for us anyway. Standard roms are horrid. And the unofficial wm6 roms by the very talented ichefs in these forums are working close to flawless
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what roms should i take then? and are they build on a wm6 base of an wm5 with wm6 looks?
no the ROMs are are legit WM6, not WM5 with WM6 looks. the MDA has been discontinued. HTC, nor t-mobile will be giving a WM6 upgrade. I've been running WM6 on my MDA for a month though. Just do that.
RADIO NEEDED for MDA WM6, t-mob, WM6 needed
WDS Josh said:
no the ROMs are are legit WM6, not WM5 with WM6 looks. the MDA has been discontinued. HTC, nor t-mobile will be giving a WM6 upgrade. I've been running WM6 on my MDA for a month though. Just do that.
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The MOST SERIOUS problem with all of WM6's posted here is the phone radio driver.
It would be *REALLY* great if someone is able to adapt the radio in this to the wizard wm6. It seems that the biggest weakness in the WM6 hacks posted here is the "radio." Thus far, only 2.19 is reported to be at all reliable (all others tested are reported to miss calls). I confirmed missed calls on 2.40 yesterday (SF Bay Area, t-mob, NTS vanilla).
But 2.19 has nasty problems with signal acquisition, especially when the signal is weak.
If this new phone has the same processor (OMAP), then maybe the radio will work, or could be hacked to work, on MDA hardware??
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The MOST SERIOUS problem with all of WM6's posted here is the phone radio driver.
It would be *REALLY* great if someone is able to adapt the radio in this to the wizard wm6. It seems that the biggest weakness in the WM6 hacks posted here is the "radio." Thus far, only 2.19 is reported to be at all reliable (all others tested are reported to miss calls). I confirmed missed calls on 2.40 yesterday (SF Bay Area, t-mob, NTS vanilla).
But 2.19 has nasty problems with signal acquisition, especially when the signal is weak.
If this new phone has the same processor (OMAP), then maybe the radio will work, or could be hacked to work, on MDA hardware??
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On XDA terra there is Radio 2.85 BUT i wasn´t able to dump it till now.
ANy help and I will dump - but with awizard it isn´t possible. And with pdocread also.
marscandybars said:
...As we all know, the MDA has been discontinued and will be replaced with "the wing"
The wing will come with wm6 preinstalled. In my opinion, its a worthless phone. It's the SAME processor speed, and there are no tactile buttons on front for messaging or internet. instead, the messaging button on the side and there is no more browser button.
Sure it has a 2MP camera... but NO flash!...
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http://www.itechnews.net/2007/03/05/htc-wing-s730-wm6-pda-phone/
Quote from link - The HTC Wing S730 is powered by a Samsung SC32442 400Mhz processor, 128MB ROM, 64MB, and has a QVGA LCD screen, 3G and HSDPA support. There is also a secondary camera for video calls.
It seems to have a 200% faster 32-bit processor...
Are you sure it doesn't have tactile buttons? All I've seen is artist renderings and those are never exactly perfect.
Are you sure that it doesn't have a flash? I've yet to see even an artist rendering of the back side of the phone.
Where are you getting this information?
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http://www.itechnews.net/2007/03/05/htc-wing-s730-wm6-pda-phone/
Quote from link - The HTC Wing S730 is powered by a Samsung SC32442 400Mhz processor, 128MB ROM, 64MB, and has a QVGA LCD screen, 3G and HSDPA support. There is also a secondary camera for video calls.
It seems to have a 200% faster 32-bit processor...
Are you sure it doesn't have tactile buttons? All I've seen is artist renderings and those are never exactly perfect.
Are you sure that it doesn't have a flash? I've yet to see even an artist rendering of the back side of the phone.
Where are you getting this information?
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NOT wings - but Wing aka HTC Herald aka HTC P4350 aka XDA terra
http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/t-mobile-wing-htc-herald-shows-up-in-fcc/
perm said:
The MOST SERIOUS problem with all of WM6's posted here is the phone radio driver.
It would be *REALLY* great if someone is able to adapt the radio in this to the wizard wm6. It seems that the biggest weakness in the WM6 hacks posted here is the "radio." Thus far, only 2.19 is reported to be at all reliable (all others tested are reported to miss calls). I confirmed missed calls on 2.40 yesterday (SF Bay Area, t-mob, NTS vanilla).
But 2.19 has nasty problems with signal acquisition, especially when the signal is weak.
If this new phone has the same processor (OMAP), then maybe the radio will work, or could be hacked to work, on MDA hardware??
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hmm I haven't had that issue as my calls seem to be coming through fine. Once the Wing is released, since it has roughly the same hardware as the MDA, it should be easy to "port" the t-mobile WM6 ROM for the MDA or at least the radio.
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http://www.itechnews.net/2007/03/05/htc-wing-s730-wm6-pda-phone/
Quote from link - The HTC Wing S730 is powered by a Samsung SC32442 400Mhz processor, 128MB ROM, 64MB, and has a QVGA LCD screen, 3G and HSDPA support. There is also a secondary camera for video calls.
It seems to have a 200% faster 32-bit processor...
Are you sure it doesn't have tactile buttons? All I've seen is artist renderings and those are never exactly perfect.
Are you sure that it doesn't have a flash? I've yet to see even an artist rendering of the back side of the phone.
Where are you getting this information?
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LOL.......
mmain said:
http://www.itechnews.net/2007/03/05/htc-wing-s730-wm6-pda-phone/
Quote from link - The HTC Wing S730 is powered by a Samsung SC32442 400Mhz processor, 128MB ROM, 64MB, and has a QVGA LCD screen, 3G and HSDPA support. There is also a secondary camera for video calls.
It seems to have a 200% faster 32-bit processor...
Are you sure it doesn't have tactile buttons? All I've seen is artist renderings and those are never exactly perfect.
Are you sure that it doesn't have a flash? I've yet to see even an artist rendering of the back side of the phone.
Where are you getting this information?
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Yes im sure i've tested it. Im not impressed at all....
screen shots and info: http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/T-Mobile-Wing-replaces-the-MDA-article-a_1863.html
And like i said... NO flash... ONLY 200 mhz processor ... messaging button is placed on the side and no tactile buttons above the screen. Below the screen there is the ok and windows button (worthless)
The link you gave is not the phone we are talking about...
papamopps said:
On XDA terra there is Radio 2.85 BUT i wasn´t able to dump it till now.
ANy help and I will dump - but with awizard it isn´t possible. And with pdocread also.
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Wish I could help, but I don't have the expertise with these to extract a radio. Hope someone else can give you a hand. "Nottoosmart" in the US has done a great job in cleaning things up and providing a reliable wm6. I don't believe he has expertise in the internals, but he appears to be very knowledgeable in putting a system together and removing troublesome "extras." Perhaps if you can get him a copy of the new radio he might be able to extract and test it.
Right now the RADIO is a huge problem. All of the hacks and "cooked" roms are worthless if the phone doesn't answer or work right.
perm said:
Wish I could help, but I don't have the expertise with these to extract a radio. Hope someone else can give you a hand. "Nottoosmart" in the US has done a great job in cleaning things up and providing a reliable wm6. I don't believe he has expertise in the internals, but he appears to be very knowledgeable in putting a system together and removing troublesome "extras." Perhaps if you can get him a copy of the new radio he might be able to extract and test it.
Right now the RADIO is a huge problem. All of the hacks and "cooked" roms are worthless if the phone doesn't answer or work right.
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The radio is inside my Device - i don´t have an .nbh or something like this. It is still INSIDE and i want to dump it from there - but no sucess till now.
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HTC S730 ('Wings'): Has anyone spotted it already?
It's now available on Tmobiles website:
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/phones/Detail.aspx?device=acc8102d-4506-4eaa-bc2f-9c7b8ec1b1e0
I may walk over to the local tmobile store later and see if they have one. You thinking about switching from your Vox?
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You thinking about switching from your Vox?
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Yeah, I'd like 3G (even though it drains the battery much faster).
And then supposably there is the 2nd video cam and a GPS receiver.
The cpu is apparently a Samsung running on 400MHz.
Combined with the same form factor as the S710 it sounds unbeatable to me.
Ah, that's the "Wing" in T-mobile's shop and is a different model.
The S730's nickname is "Wings"
Here's a preliminary spec:
http://handheld.softpedia.com/devices/HTC/HTC-S730--Wings-322.shtml
The release date is July '07
jockyw2001 said:
Yeah, I'd like 3G (even though it drains the battery much faster).
And then supposably there is the 2nd video cam and a GPS receiver.
The cpu is apparently a Samsung running on 400MHz.
Combined with the same form factor as the S710 it sounds unbeatable to me.
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Where are you located, I don't think the US version has all those capabilities....
That's not the HTC wings
this is : http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=728
T-mobile Wing looks like a TyTN to me
This S730 3G Windows Mobile Smartphone is vaporware right now
Everyone keeps saying it is coming out, but frankly, besides a photoshop'd mockup of this, there have been NO, repeat NO pictures of this in any form. No one has reported seeing one, no fuzzy pictures, etc. Until we get some information about this phone, some pictures, a release of info that is credible, I think that it's no where near release, and more like a Christmas time release at earliest. Seriously, why release the Vox, and then something that will blow it out of the water less than 6 months after the Vox release? It will cannibalize it's own market segment. I hope I am wrong, but with no pictures, or info on it, I don't see it as anything more than a future release, and nothing sooner.
Yes, it seems hard to imagine that they will release it so soon after the S710. However, there are different markets for both models. Don't forget that many users have no need for 3G, besides that the battery drains much faster. In that spec on pdadb.net it mentions only 12 hours! If that's true then many users are better off with the S710.
The Qalcomm MSM7200 chipset exists already since more than a year and does offer all those cool features. Usually mobile manufacturers need about a year to build phones around a new chipset. So from that point of view the timing could be right.
Here is more info about the chipset:
http://www.cdmatech.com/download_library/pdf/msm7200_chipset.pdf
http://www.cdmatech.com/products/msm7200_chipset_solution.jsp
Anyhow, I would love to test a S730
t-mobile wings
this wings phone does not have a front camera !!!!
HTC Wings is not the same as the T-Mobile Wings...
Check this blog: http://artedelcelular.blogspot.com/2007/09/htc-s730-successor-of-htc-s710.html
They found spectacular real photos of the upcoming HTC S730 Wings!
tocache said:
Check this blog: http://artedelcelular.blogspot.com/2007/09/htc-s730-successor-of-htc-s710.html
They found spectacular real photos of the upcoming HTC S730 Wings!
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Wow ! But well i like the design on the S710 much more.. Wonder where they got them from ?
S730 have no gps but QUALCOMM chipset yes. Is deactived?
You can get the full product sheet here:
http://www.europe.htc.com/z/pdf/products/HTC_S730_PS_EN_280907.pdf
http://bp1.blogger.com/_Na8y0wPGxNE/RwKMgT2IGdI/AAAAAAAAAC4/aphncGBmKkM/s1600-h/GPS+on+S730.jpg
Looks like the S730 does have a GPS chipset but that it is disabled.
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http://bp1.blogger.com/_Na8y0wPGxNE/RwKMgT2IGdI/AAAAAAAAAC4/aphncGBmKkM/s1600-h/GPS+on+S730.jpg
Looks like the S730 does have a GPS chipset but that it is disabled.
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Yes, I'm sure I can enable it
htc-s730 samplese are shipped
gd day all here you can see the real pictures i hope you can understand your qestion from it and if not then u have to wait for some one to get his hands on sample whic are on the way now !!
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/gallery/handsets/htc-s730-unboxing
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Yes, I'm sure I can enable it
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D'you think the pic showing "active GPS" is for real or just a mockup?
GPS is a deal/no deal feature for me (in addition to the feeble battery... but as for the Vox there may be more powerful replacement batteries available).
Like for the Hermes there will most likely be a Wings100, Wings200... at least with different casing. Would a provider (like T-Mo Germany) be able to order units which are GPS hardware-deficient (lacking antenna, for instance)? For example, T-Mo Germany disabled (mechanically blocked!) the front videocall button of its "MDA vario II" Hermes variant.
How would one be able to tell if a specific S730 unit indeed has all necessary GPS hardware onboard?
Paquette said:
How would one be able to tell if a specific S730 unit indeed has all necessary GPS hardware onboard?
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The chipset seems ok, see here. Don't know if other gps system components are built in.
jockyw2001 said:
The chipset seems ok, see here. Don't know if other gps system components are built in.
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Thanks for the link. Looks ok, indeed. Please keep me posted if you find a way to activate the GPS feature. Will a registry hack do?
Does anybody recall how difficult it was to enable GPS for the Trinity?
Paquette said:
Thanks for the link. Looks ok, indeed. Please keep me posted if you find a way to activate the GPS feature. Will a registry hack do?
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I claimed I can do, but I need the device in my hands first
Does the Touch Pro or the AT&T Fuze have the same problem my Tilt (Kaiser) had with the lack of acceleration for the video? My Tilt was extremely slow because of the lack of hardware drivers for the ATI graphics chip. Does this have same issue?
I'm looking for the same answer +1
I would also like to add another question... I know the 3G touch pro would not work in US or in my case, Canada. If I buy the touch pro, would it be possible to make 3G working buy changing the radio? Or is it a hardware issue?
thanks
iamcanadian said:
I'm looking for the same answer +1
I would also like to add another question... I know the 3G touch pro would not work in US or in my case, Canada. If I buy the touch pro, would it be possible to make 3G working buy changing the radio? Or is it a hardware issue?
thanks
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This has been answered numerous times. Its hardware.
numetheus said:
Does the Touch Pro or the AT&T Fuze have the same problem my Tilt (Kaiser) had with the lack of acceleration for the video? My Tilt was extremely slow because of the lack of hardware drivers for the ATI graphics chip. Does this have same issue?
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i think the chip has it built-in. some are even saying when equiped with omnia driver it runs better
it has drivers, thats why it runs tf3d smoothly. some have said omnia drivers help/hurt performance, i think its yet to be decided.
once the retail at&t rom is out we should have some more up-to-date drivers for the device.
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it has drivers, thats why it runs tf3d smoothly. some have said omnia drivers help/hurt performance, i think its yet to be decided.
once the retail at&t rom is out we should have some more up-to-date drivers for the device.
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Then my decision has been made thank you. The only reason I hated my Tilt was because of the piss-poor graphics performance due to lack of Imageon chip drivers.
yeah, this is an entire qualcomm chipset. if i'm thinking correctly, it even reserves RAM just for the chipset (cannot even be accessed by the OS)
Hay guys,
I am getting a new PDA, I have tytn now and it has served me good.
Could you give me your look on this two models, I am thinking about Samsung, since it has much better specs and display, but I got used to touchflo 3D interface a lot...
Is it possible to put it on Omnia?
Your answer will be appreciated and will help me decide what to buy.
Thanks!
There is one added value for choosing HD
The sup`port of this fantastic site!!
Just because of that I´ll choose HD even if omnia has better specs...
Yes, that is bothering me too...
Well if you're not gonna flash your device or use Touch Flo 3D or any other ported software, than get Omnia 2.
You will still be able to get support in this forum. Most of the issues of non-HTC devices can be supported/solved without the need to correspond to an HTC device.
You could use TouchFlo 3D on your Omnia 2 if its WVGA. However as mentioned above the support provided by this site significantly exceeds that of any site that supports the Omnia. To be completely honest, if you havent bought your device yet you should consider the Touch Diamond II. The reasoning behind this is i read an article somewhere mentioning that devices without a windows button will not get an official WM6.5 ROM or something stupid like that (Correct me if im wrong).
Ill be upgrading from my Tytn to an Omnia2
I agree that HTC gets great support here but Hardware and capability wise there is nothing to compare with the omnia2 on the horizon.
AMOLED screen,headphone jack,tv-out,5mpx cam with dual flash....what more could anyone possibly want?
gauravdc said:
Ill be upgrading from my Tytn to an Omnia2
I agree that HTC gets great support here but Hardware and capability wise there is nothing to compare with the omnia2 on the horizon.
AMOLED screen,headphone jack,tv-out,5mpx cam with dual flash....what more could anyone possibly want?
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A forum specialized like this for that device!!!
Hmm, the Touch HD vs Omnia II i8000.
Well, lets face it, this is a question of 'XDA support' or 'No XDA support'. Specs-wise, the i8000 has the Touch HD crushed completely (as have been the case with all new Samsung models; HTC hasn't updated their specs in forever).
Personally, if you ask me for a choice between those two models, I would go with the i8000. The main reason I love XDA support is that it makes the interface looks better and it makes the software faster, but from what I see, the i8000 is already plenty fast and it looks very, very good. Furthermore, the i8000 has support forums too (though not on the level of XDA), so any deficiency may be corrected by its own forums anyway.
The idea of choosing a WM device based on software seems very silly to me. One can find a CAB for just about any Windows Mobile software (including, yes, TouchFlo 3D), so transition between WM devices based on software is very simple. If anything, the i8000 should be more appealing software-wise as Samsung put a lot of amazing software on it that has not been ported to other devices yet.
Always buy for the better specs and design. Never buy for the software support. Buy for the software that is already provided.
Any extras can be found on other fan sites and other non-htc developers. Therefore the Omnia 2 is a much better choice.
Besides there are plenty of software that are created that supports non-htc devices, and there are also software that are created specifically for non-htc devices.
Furthermore alot of the technical problems are Windows Mobile based and not always HTC based.
The only 2 reasons to get HTC devices is 1) if you prefer the design and the specs of HTC and 2) if you want to flash your ROM.
HTC devices are easily flashed to a different ROM, but hey man not everyone uses ROMs... I don't ever use ROM's...
Therefore Omnia 2 is a perfect choice if you don't flash your ROM...and point number 1 shows that HTC Touch HD is outdated....so therefore get Omnia 2 if you don't flash your ROM....
Think about it mate.
poetryrocksalot said:
Well if you're not gonna flash your device or use Touch Flo 3D or any other ported software, than get Omnia 2.
You will still be able to get support in this forum. Most of the issues of non-HTC devices can be supported/solved without the need to correspond to an HTC device.
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undoubtedly, omnia II
gauravdc said:
what more could anyone possibly want?
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a zooming ability on the video camera (while filming)
also, can it play divx/xvid movies like the HD can with coreplayer?
i download movies and dont have to re-encode them, just drag, drop, play. (...generally, unless there was some esoteric encoding used)
mark
I have the same dilemma. I am about to replace my Sony Ericsson W960i with a proper PDA and I am taking into account both, Touch HD and Omnia II.
Similarly I would like to have a Touch Flo 3d interface on my device and therefore I was keener on HTC Touch HD at first. However since it is possible to get a Touch Flo 3d onto all WinMo devices (as I deduced from 8525Smart's post)
8525Smart said:
One can find a CAB for just about any Windows Mobile software (including, yes, TouchFlo 3D)
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I rather buy Omnia.
And here it comes to questions:
1. Are my assumptions concerning getting Touch Flo 3d onto Omnia correct?
2. Could anyone explain to me this ->
poetryrocksalot said:
....so therefore get Omnia 2 if you don't flash your ROM....
Think about it mate.
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What does it mean to"flash your ROM" and how is it useful? Isn't it simply upgrading/updating the ROM?
I'd be grateful if you could help
well livegod guess what ! omnia2 has zooming while taking videos with its awesom camera
and the touch player can support almost 99% of all my downloaded and converted movies
as for the TF3D .. i love the new one and i cant seem to find it anywhere to be installed on my omnia2
i hate the widgets... makes the phone looks like a toy so i am using spbmobile shell + pointui
i'am from germany and I have the same problem.....
But here I can buy the Omnia in a few month....:-(
But what is whith the HTC LEO????????
Touchwiz 2.0 quite simply covers up WM 6.1 SO thoroughly on the Omnia II, it's almost like you're not using a Windows phone. The Omnia II is definitely the better pick unless you REALLY want ROMs to flash. Then wait for the Whitestone or Firestone or whatever HTC have next.
omnia camera is far better than the HD2
especially the video recording
the HD2 dont have a chance
but i dont care about the video recording so i will get the HD2
HD2, wins every time. You can flash what ever you want (when hspl comes out!), why would you ever want an omnia?
Hands down the HD2 (Leo). PPC of the year so far!
Samsung Omnia 2 place...
I'm a Forum XDA user for a long time.
It helped me a lot with my old HTC Wizard.
I was quite worried about buying an Omnia2 and losing the Forum support. But HTC HD cannot win O2 in SPECS.
About support... boys I have to admit.
For Omnia2 (that is not a HTC device) the best software and tweaks and amazing ROMs can be found on MODACO (sorry boys, but I have to say).
If you own an HTC device don't even consider getting there. The best place is here!!!
Concerning the TouchFlo3D, there are many versions available on MODACO. There's even a HTC HD2 like ROM with Sense 2.5
Thanks!
I got a new tpro 2 october 2009 edition(10-01-2009)wm6.5. I would like to know how too see versions of applications that the phone uses.I want too change themes and things like that. what is the newst wm6.5 rom and radio rom? And can someone tell me the other name for the touch pro 2. I see alot of different versions of touch pro 2's. I bought mine through MTN in south africa. Thank u.
Welcome to forums
Here you can see all the different versions of great Rhodium:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550431&highlight=rhodium
And here you can find the latest ROM´s and Radios (also a guide on how to flash):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=490
And don´t forget to vote for Rhodium!
Thanx orb. i have the un branded version. How do i see the aplication versions on the phone, the sense and home screen and weather?
It´s under start-settings-system- and not sure if is device info or something similar
You´ll find all you need there
Good luck,
mee too
im new using tp2 guys, pls anyone help us. i cannt make a video call
and tell us more about the software and apllication/games to make our tp2 running in the best feature
Have a look on Rhodium section
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=479