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Hy guys,
Just to know, I'm coming from my trusty Eten M700. I bought the HTC Touch Pro about one week ago here, in Romania.
And I must say the video playback seems way too sluggish for a phone like this. On the M700, with same coreplayer version (latest), with raw frame buffer and medium quality and no other modification I could play every video I wanted. Including 720x576 xvid clips.
On this one...no matter what I set (QTV, raw frame buffer, direct draw), everything seems a little too sluggish compared to M700.
do you have the same impression, or is it just me?
I just read another thread here about video performance but it had too much dissipated info.
Gigs said:
Hy guys,
Just to know, I'm coming from my trusty Eten M700. I bought the HTC Touch Pro about one week ago here, in Romania.
And I must say the video playback seems way too sluggish for a phone like this. On the M700, with same coreplayer version (latest), with raw frame buffer and medium quality and no other modification I could play every video I wanted. Including 720x576 xvid clips.
On this one...no matter what I set (QTV, raw frame buffer, direct draw), everything seems a little too sluggish compared to M700.
do you have the same impression, or is it just me?
I just read another thread here about video performance but it had too much dissipated info.
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Which is why it's great that you started a new thread to dissipate the info further. Read the other thread(s) again, this has already been answered and solved within coreplayer.
P0ll0L0c0 said:
Which is why it's great that you started a new thread to dissipate the info further. Read the other thread(s) again, this has already been answered and solved within coreplayer.
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which topic is it? i have smilar issues
Untill now I have found that QTV with Medium acceleration, and dither on has the best performance, anyway less than m700. Setting the buffer to 8000 kb did not had any effect. Still want to hear from another pro owners what they think about this.
I agree, video playback just sucks! I hate Qualcomm processors, Xscale rulezzz!
However when I put QTv, my screen goes black and there's only sound.
How did you achieve to run it on QTv???
krabicka3 said:
I agree, video playback just sucks! I hate Qualcomm processors, Xscale rulezzz!
However when I put QTv, my screen goes black and there's only sound.
How did you achieve to run it on QTv???
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It depends on what kind of file you want to play with it. On mine, some 3gp and some clips compressed for mobile devices don't show anything on screen. Try to switch to raw frame buffer, and restart core player, maybe it helps?
Unfortunately the HTC Touch Pro is not the mulitmedia phone you want if your looking to run your non-mobile encoded videos. However it still can be a awesome video player if you encode videos to the right dimension and specs.
I took this past Sunday to play around with finding just the right video format and encode settings to play video as close to vga as possible. Unfortunately the Touch Pro can't play videos in full-vga resolution. HOWEVER, it can perfectly play videos in 480x320 which when you compare to a 640x480 video on the touch pro's 2.5inch screen there is no difference in quality what so ever.
When you play small videos on such a small screen you wont notice the difference in the resolution, however comparing a qvga (320x240) to the half vga 480x320 resolution you can definitely see a difference.
I use two different encoders, one being pocket divx encoder and the other videora iphone converter.
I encoded a bunch of animes and movies using pocket divx set to 480x320, 2-Pass, vhq enabled, around 850 video bitrate and 128kb stereo bitrate and all my videos look crisp on the Touch Pro and plays smoothly.
I suggest others to try it out and benchmark the playback yourself and you'll see it'll run at a easy 135%+ which is perfect for 100% smooth playback.
Gigs said:
It depends on what kind of file you want to play with it. On mine, some 3gp and some clips compressed for mobile devices don't show anything on screen. Try to switch to raw frame buffer, and restart core player, maybe it helps?
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1.) I suggest check two things, one be sure you are running the latest build which I assume you are,
2) under preferences and under the Qtv page look to make sure "Tytn 2 driver mode" is enabled.
3) some builds have a issue of zoomed in pictures to a an extreme amount that only a black screen shows when first installed, set the zoom to 50% and then reset to the normal or best fit.
Hopefully those changes should help you out
UPDATE: Also there is one bug I know of with Coreplayer. When coreplayer is launched and left running in the back (or if still active on screen) should the device go into sleep mode and then come back you will not be able to see any video playing when choosing to start. You'll have to close coreplayer and reopen again, I noticed this the other day and just came into mind when experiencing just now again.
I almost agree with you puerrican but I think it's such a burden to reencode....I managed to get easy after I saw that everything encoded with h264, mkv and encoders like this can't be played in the pro. However, everything I had in my computer encoded in divx, xvid, normal things works just fine with the settings I put in some posts above. I just tried 700 MB DVDrip(around 1000 kbit/s and 640x272) and some videoclip(624x352 vbr around 2300kbits) both xvid and they worked ok. 688x400 AVC1 (h264) killed the pro.It's not just the resolution but also the encoder used.
EDIT: just saw the update and I wanted to mention that I'm also using the 1.2.5 build 4506 with tytn 2 mode enabled and qtv on medium selected. And touchflo3d is disabled and I'm using the spb shell (or something like that with icons on screen).
IDEA: I think it would be interesting playing back xvid 640x480 and h264 640x480 to test this idea of mine
Definitely it is pain to go and do that. Plus reencoding speed relies heavily on your pc specs, on a high end specs your looking at around 4-5 mins for a 2-pass encoded video of 24 min length. While a movie length of 90 mins or so your looking at at least 16-22 mins.
So expect much longer wait on a lower end thats not even dual core or lower clock rate.
Until pdas start sporting dedicated gpus from nvidia or other names windows mobile wont ever benefit on being a media playback alternative which is a nice plus for those not looking to carry 2-3 devices for music, pmp, pda, and phone. Wish HTC would look into intel processors for their next unit and possibly throw in a nvidia mobile gpu like the 5500 with a decent amount of video memory. I mean at this point in the technology chain its not even remotely impossible to do so... so whats the hold up with companies???
yeah, i have no problem with mp4 at 640x480 (640x360 widescreen). mkv at high res (above 640x480) is a little juttery. my movies are usually 24fps, 1000kbps, 640x360
got same settings as gigs
coreplayer is working on fix for v1.3
I'm at a lost, I tried playing 640x480 videos on my touch pro and it stutters way too much, how are you guys managing to have to it playback flawlessly?
I dont really get whats good about watching movies on a 2.5 inch screen...do you do that on such a regular basis that this is so important ?
Regarding Video, i just watch some short youtube clips and stuff like that...
Ever tried to watch a full length movie on such a small screen ? I did that on holiday on my ipod and its really hurting the eyes to concetrate on such a small screen for 90+ minutes... not really anything you want to do regularly...besides not reencoded videos take up alot of space on your memorystick...
i dont have a problem with reencoding some videos and stuff, full length movies arent meant to be watched on a phone anyway
Well, a 2,5 inch screen is a bit too small, but our Touch Pros have a 2,8 inch screen
I have a zune and it has a 3 in screen and was perfect for watching tv videos or movies, and thats half the resolution then a TP. Cant wait to get my hand on the TP !!!
To each his own, some ppl like being able to watch videos whenever the call comes. Sometimes when I have to wait for something like a class to start or I'm away from my pc, or even on a airplane or public transportation I like to be able to watch few episodes easily and clearly. A full blown movie yea its gonna be a nuisance for a long time depending on the person. But some are accustomed to it, I for one can easily watch 4-6 episodes in a row without getting any kind of headahce.
yep, its quite convient. all in one device. it has tv out as well, so since it is simalar res to tv, it looks great
music + movies on phone, no ned for mp3 player. plus i can stream movies off my pc
yeah i see that there is room for this, but i dont think many people use this so regulary that converting a few movies is that much of a pain. You will save a lot of space on your memorystick as well.
I have modifying 2 regentries and the video is now much better.
Look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=438318
Using CorePlayer the benchmark was before 75-95%,now 145%. on same videofile - Uncompressed VGA XviD.
Edit... I am sorry. It wasn't working. I just forgot,that I set the video quality to medium before.
You have to chose Medium Quality on Video Settings (with Qtv selected), otherwise it lags so much ..
Even on medium on motion scenses some frame drops
Video used for tests: RL_XQ_640x480_1500_128.avi (found somewhere here on this forum.. can't remember the topic name )
On some online demos the vdeos look crisp and clear. On my phone if i select a video from youtube it looks terrible. Even the HD trailer for Tron2 looks bad. Is this normal? Are people in teh demos using special videos for the demo?
Also how do I select an HD version of a video in YouTube? Ir a new resolution?
Is tehre something better than the stock YouTube application?
Thanks!
I don't have a device so can't say for sure how to set it to HD since I think that may be your issue...but have you tried navigating to the mobile Youtub site in your browser?
http://m.youtube.com/
Citznfish said:
On some online demos the vdeos look crisp and clear. On my phone if i select a video from youtube it looks terrible. Even the HD trailer for Tron2 looks bad. Is this normal? Are people in teh demos using special videos for the demo?
Also how do I select an HD version of a video in YouTube? Ir a new resolution?
Is tehre something better than the stock YouTube application?
Thanks!
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Left button on the bottom of your phone , there are 4 buttons MENU HOME BACK SEARCH.
You click menu button while watching video with YouTube application and select playback in HQ.
are you connected over cell network or wifi? when the video is playing press menu, more, watch in high quality or their might be a small box in the bottom right corner that says HQ. if it is grey it is low quality, if it is red it is high quality.
if you are connected over cellular data it might be defaulting to low quality.
I had an HTC Aria before my Captivate, and noticed a difference in the YouTube app. On my Aria there was a setting to enable High Quality mode by default. Every movie I watched was in HQ mode. On the Captivate I cannot find that option. I have to start the movie, pause the movie, and press Menu > More > View in HQ. At least in the Aria version there was a toggle for HQ/LQ in the seek bar to the right.
Does anyone know if there is an option I am missing, or a way to install a version that would have this option?
i would check out this thread:
http ://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=738394
i took the youtube app from that one and it works great
I have a Handbrake profile saved from back in March. I found it from a YouTube video links section, where the author of the "how-to" video about re-encoding video for the best playback on the Xoom posted a link to a pretty good Handbrake preset for the Xoom.
I am just wondering... if video playback is now better in Honeycomb 3.1, if there would be a better setting (for better quality video) out there? Does anyone have a Handbrake preset that looks really good on the Xoom that is new for the 3.1 update?
The preset I have from March works well, and videos encoded using the preset play without stutter - but the quality is a bit blurry at times... which leads me to wonder if the Xoom couldn't handle higher quality video now.
I had lots of trouble finding the right combo with Handbrake. Videos would play fine but weren't very crisp.
Switched over to the latest version of an old app - DVD Fab. Works extremely well, videos are sharp and play buttery smooth.
JFMFT,
What setting are you currently using? I'm at work so cant check mine right now. I know whatever settings I was using seemed to work pretty well-will get back to you with specifics.
If you have a solid preset to tweak, then try using the "Constant Quality" setting under the "Video" tab:
Constant Quality - Handbrake
CRF Guide - Handbrake
Read the above links; they have great info. If you don't, then at least note that higher RF means lower quality (higher compression).
For me, a single Handbrake preset doesn't produce the results I want -- good quality balanced with decent file sizes -- across different kinds of video. Animation differs greatly from fast-paced action (frames, distinct lines/edges, blur, etc.), for example.
In Handbrake, I started with H264 baseline profile settings, then settled on some tweaks in the "Advanced" tab after some reading and experimentation:
Motorola Support FAQ: Motorola XOOM - Optimal video settings
HandBrake Docs (links to option descriptions): x264 Options - Handbrake
Now, I vary only the "Constant Quality" parameter between RF 19 and 25, depending on the type and quality of the source. It takes some trial and error, but I think it's a worthwhile effort. Working first with short samples (5-10 min) from the video source will help things move quicker, too.
Get RockPlayer, it literally plays everything.
Forget Handbrake / DVD Fab. Free vs Cost issue aside, DVD Catalyst 4 FTW!
Away from home currently, but I will check into my settings & report back soon.
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http://www.opinionatedfool.com/2011/05/2-part-mini-series-part-2-what-can-i-do.html
Hit the link above there is a section provided Handbrake info and a download link to a working preset file. =)
jiwengang said:
http://www.opinionatedfool.com/2011/05/2-part-mini-series-part-2-what-can-i-do.html
Hit the link above there is a section provided Handbrake info and a download link to a working preset file. =)
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Link doesn't work for me
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Link doesn't work for me
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http://www.4shared.com/file/dCvb641f/Xoom.html?
try this one?
Here are my Handbrake settings for my Xoom.
I'm getting pretty good results in term of quality/size.
For the Picture settings, I'm changing the Anamorphic to None and setting the Width to 1280 (be sure to check the Keep Aspect ratio).
Maybe the Anamorphic could be changed to other, I didn't test to see the difference.
You can try setting Constant Quality or increase the Bitrate value (I'm using 1500 which seems to be enough)
Encoding is quite fast (depending of the PC of course)
Enjoy playing them with the default HC video player
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I have a Handbrake profile saved from back in March. I found it from a YouTube video links section, where the author of the "how-to" video about re-encoding video for the best playback on the Xoom posted a link to a pretty good Handbrake preset for the Xoom.
I am just wondering... if video playback is now better in Honeycomb 3.1, if there would be a better setting (for better quality video) out there? Does anyone have a Handbrake preset that looks really good on the Xoom that is new for the 3.1 update?
The preset I have from March works well, and videos encoded using the preset play without stutter - but the quality is a bit blurry at times... which leads me to wonder if the Xoom couldn't handle higher quality video now.
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"video playback is now better in Honeycomb 3.1" i agree. Honeycomb 3.1 improve the hardware capabilities, so video will play more smoothly. but for video conversion, you need to increase the bit rate. this is my own experience.
Hello guys First of all it's my first post in the nexus 5 group (i've did a pre-search) and i contact you with this problem
Last night i went out with friends at a pool party and used my nexus 5 for recording some videos from the stage. The music wasn't to loud, just like normal club music, in open space. Today when i took a look on the video i got scared...the sound quality is insanely BAD !. It's like the phone is set to +100 gain in the microphone... I tried normalizing audio in premier pro but with no chance. So i ask you guys, do you know any solution on how i can repair the problem. The best audio quality i had in recording videos in club (audio especially) was with my Nokia E51 that had the best mics i can find one a phone...
so here is a comparison:
In club music (closed space) shot with my Htc One S (no dual mic or things like that) -> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=487777791348118&set=vb.100003477036350&type=3&theater
in club music (closed space) shot with my Nokia E51 (a 5-6 years phone that still records audio crispy clear for a phone ! - don't look at video quality) -> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=247706518688581&set=vb.100003477036350&type=3&theater
last night with my nexus 5 ->https://www.dropbox.com/s/3vtisokit5ontwl/VID_20140727_032412.mp4
All the link are so you guys can see that exact problem that i have. I want to repair it, if it is possible in the stock rom (with a app) or if i need to install a custom rom, what is the best rom that resolves my problem and has best performance .
Thank you in advance !
I have exactly the same problem. Tried recording at a couple of indoor parties(so a little louder than your situation. Couldn't recognize any music when playing the video's afterwards. Terrible quality
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Partial fix - i think
Ok so last night i got an app from play store called microphone that has a setting on the mic called mic gain. it was set to +32 dB....overgain ! so i set it to 0 and did some recording in the house with my audio system on a high volume and afterwards put the phone next to the speaker and seem that it records decent . but i think it is a problem related to software settings... will keep you updated on what i found
Sounds awesome. Thanks for your effords
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Problem solved?
I can't post links so if anyone wanna fix this or just post the links from my post that would be great, thank you.
So I've found a solution, or at least a temporary one
Get the camera app called Lgcamera. In this app you can manually set your audio settings.
Set it to AAC and set the stereo option to On (this did it for me atleast).
/store/apps/details?id=rubberbigpepper.lgCamera&hl=sv
I made a little video about it since I couldn't find this solution before, hope it helps!
/watch?v=RVWcE3dQoMk
Please help spread the video on forums where this issue is discussed so more people (and perhaps even Google?) can record without that awful noise reduction/cancellation! If enough people complain then they will probably (hopefully) implement these settings in the "Google Camera" app!
Thanks for the video! This is the video.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=RVWcE3dQoMk
And the link to the Play Store:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=rubberbigpepper.lgCamera&hl=nl
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BE CAREFULL though with LGCamera, because I found that no matter what you choose in settings, fullHD (1024p) videos are ALWAYS recorded with 15 frames per second only (vs 30 as normal), making the videos look very choppy. So I deinstalled LGCamera again. Otherwise great app.
But I found a good substitute, it called Open Camera, link to the (free) app and also a possible video mic fix (reduces mic gain).
Link and more info here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54391146&postcount=54
HTH,
Kusie
Kusie said:
BE CAREFULL though with LGCamera, because I found that no matter what you choose in settings, fullHD (1024p) videos are ALWAYS recorded with 15 frames per second only (vs 30 as normal), making the videos look very choppy. So I deinstalled LGCamera again. Otherwise great app.
But I found a good substitute, it called Open Camera, link to the (free) app and also a possible video mic fix (reduces mic gain).
Link and more info here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54391146&postcount=54
HTH,
Kusie
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Hmm, strange. I do not have that problem. I record with 30FPS without any problems. Maybe something is wrong in the settings? Have you tried changing the video format around? The app is not that great but it does the job for now, atleast for me.
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I noticed that the front camera is not that great in Lgcamera, but the back I have no problems with. I recorded a video on my instagram if anyone wanna check it out. I'm still changing the bit values around hoping it will sound even better.
Speakers are "semi-loud" and i recommend watching the video in your phone or atleast lowering the bass if you're watching it with "real speakers".
instagram.com/p/rCDsh5xX9C/?modal=true
Here are my settings for this particular video:
Back camera
1920x1080
H.264
Vid Bitrate 17mbit
Vid framerate 30
AAC
44100 Samplerate
128000 Bitrate (unsure of what value is best here)
Stereo OFF
Ok thanks, I might give it another try... Open Camera works well for me, though.
Did you check the actual framerate of your resulting video with a tool like mediainfo or VLC Player codec Info?
Nice guitar work btw
Greetings from a drummer,
K.
Kusie said:
Ok thanks, I might give it another try... Open Camera works well for me, though.
Did you check the actual framerate of your resulting video with a tool like mediainfo or VLC Player codec Info?
Nice guitar work btw
Greetings from a drummer,
K.
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Frame rate in VLC: imgur.com/SEyPhoh.png
Open Camera works too, but I still get the audio artifacts when recording with a backing track. I get those in LG too, just not as much. Lg is in no way perfect, but the sample and bit rate allows a bit more customization if you ask me.
I'll upload one with OC when I get home! And thanks
By the way, what settings did you use in Open Camera? Or did you just lower the gain?
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44100 Samplerate
128000 Bitrate (unsure of what value is best here)
Stereo OFF
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higher bitrate = better quality/higher filesize :good:
HUUUGE discovery today!
Update your LG-camera, go to settings and set audio to "voice communication" = headset. You can now record with your headset, see my instagram @Callemusicman for results!
It completely removes the noise cancellation!!
Isn't there any other solution? Because if i use, for example, Instagram, the sound is still very bad... so this LG app isn't usefull for recording with Instagram or other apps...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/development/mod-camcorder-audio-quality-fix-t2837930