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Youtube HD playback

I am a new android/captivate buyer. Try as I might (googled for a few hours) I could not find anything on the Captivate and it's Hd playback. My question is:
Is there a way I can play Youtube HD on my Captivate via stream? (and NO I don't mean High Quality I mean straight up HD *720p*.).
I'm just mad the iphone 4 can and I can't find a way to do it on my captivate.
Thanks
Jose

If you are connected via wifi, I believe it defaults to the highest..on 3g it defaults to low and you have to click thne menu button, go to 'More' and go to high quality. Someone will correct me if Im wrong

Neither the iPhone 4 nor any Android phone has 720p screen resolution. If the iPhone 4 is telling you it is displaying at 720p, it is either cropping or compressing the video.
However, the Samsung Captivate and many other Android phones are essentially at 480p HD resolution, which is what setting the videos to High Quality should display (bump it up to 480p playback).

Belaflek said:
If you are connected via wifi, I believe it defaults to the highest..on 3g it defaults to low and you have to click thne menu button, go to 'More' and go to high quality. Someone will correct me if Im wrong
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That is the way it works on our version of Youtube. The newer version has a more conveniently placed HQ button and allows you to set HQ as the default.

I might add the Captivate also plays 720p and 1080p (though really it's pointless) video files quite well. And UNLIKE the iPhone 4, you don't have no encode everything in MP4/H.264 to play them. Thank you Samsung for native MKV and AVI container support...
And yes, the Captivate's screen resolution is lower than 720p (assuming a pixel for pixel representation), but in practice if you're watching a movie or tv show, it looks way better if the file is 720p as opposed to 480p.

Man... Why does the iPhone 4's videos look SO much more crisp than my dear Samsung? They can't beat the vividness of the display though Hopefully youtube can be updated to play sharper videos for android later down the line. These screen resolutions are getting more epic every year. Thanks for replying guys.

[Q] Poor HDMI Out Quality

I seem to be getting poor quality from the MHL to HDMI adapter...it's like the output is the same resolution as the phone's display (800x480) and it's just stretched to fit the screen...makes it look I'm watching an old DVD... Anybody else experiencing this? And is there a fix?

I'm also having this problem as well as the adapter not pushing Audio to the TV at all. Really frustrating.

bikeracer4487 said:
I seem to be getting poor quality from the MHL to HDMI adapter...it's like the output is the same resolution as the phone's display (800x480) and it's just stretched to fit the screen...makes it look I'm watching an old DVD... Anybody else experiencing this? And is there a fix?
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it will do this anytime it mirrors the screen. it seems the video player can switch to the mhl output only where i'd assume it plays the native resolution of the video. unfortunately i havent had a chance to test it on a high quality video.

Dani897 said:
it will do this anytime it mirrors the screen. it seems the video player can switch to the mhl output only where i'd assume it plays the native resolution of the video. unfortunately i havent had a chance to test it on a high quality video.
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Okay, so if video plays at a high quality, then why do still pictures still look like crap? Do I have to use a special player for these too?

Seems to be application dependant to me. I tried the HBO GO app the first time I connected my phone to the TV and the quality looked pretty bad. But when I tried some of the HD movie trailers that came preloaded they looked really nice. Not Bluray quality but I'd say they were as good as most 720p streaming services.
I think the HBO mobile app limits the streaming quality so that
a: it works better on small screens
b: you won't want to connect it to a tv
I also downloaded a 720p mvk of Dr Who and tried playing it over HDMI and it looked almost as good as when I play it on my HTPC.

pthfnder89 said:
Seems to be application dependant to me. I tried the HBO GO app the first time I connected my phone to the TV and the quality looked pretty bad. But when I tried some of the HD movie trailers that came preloaded they looked really nice. Not Bluray quality but I'd say they were as good as most 720p streaming services.
I think the HBO mobile app limits the streaming quality so that
a: it works better on small screens
b: you won't want to connect it to a tv
I also downloaded a 720p mvk of Dr Who and tried playing it over HDMI and it looked almost as good as when I play it on my HTPC.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1108641
+1 on the HBO GO app... I just wish it would transfer true HD quality to the big screen.

i think only samsung specific apps will be able to use high res. it seems that if the phone screen is on it will be in wvga resolution, the video processor wont put out 2 resolutions at the same time. with the video player specifically it will turn off the phone screen so it is not mirroing a low res picture but instead it is switching to a different video mode entirely. we can only hope that they give us a better photo gallery app that can do this as well and that 3rd party apps will be able to detect mhl and switch to mhl only mode.

Dani897 said:
i think only samsung specific apps will be able to use high res. it seems that if the phone screen is on it will be in wvga resolution, the video processor wont put out 2 resolutions at the same time. with the video player specifically it will turn off the phone screen so it is not mirroing a low res picture but instead it is switching to a different video mode entirely. we can only hope that they give us a better photo gallery app that can do this as well and that 3rd party apps will be able to detect mhl and switch to mhl only mode.
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Ugh...any known mhl apps for viewing still pictures? Tried googling but I just seem to be getting a lot of Nhl hits...

I need an app to capture non-youtube streaming video.

There are several choices available for capturing youtube video, but I was wanting something more universal, something like the Download helper firefox add-on.

i dont believe there is one. sorry

Yeah. I'm figuring that out. Seems weird.
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*Subscribing*
I was going to suggest ShootMe, because it has a screencast feature that records the activity of the screen in a video format (in which you could start the service, put the video full screen, and trim the video as necessary), but I don't think it'll capture sound.

[Q] HD 60fps

I cannot seem to make this work. I choose HD 60fps in the video camera options and yet when I play the video back it is not slow motion. Is anyone else having this issue?

Lensmonkey said:
I cannot seem to make this work. I choose HD 60fps in the video camera options and yet when I play the video back it is not slow motion. Is anyone else having this issue?
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Is it playing back at 60fps?

Thread moved. Please post in the correct sections of the forum in future. Questions go in Q&A.
Thanks
AvRS

I wondered that too. But. When you go to the camera application, the one it shipped with, then press the video camera icon to switch it to video mode, on the bottom left a slide out toolbar is revealed. if the icon that looks like film negative is pressed, I get four options: normal video,video mms,slow motion, and time lapse. On pressing the slow motion button, "HD 60fps" is shown at the top left of the screen. When I press the record button, and play the resultant video back on the phone, It plays in real time. I copied the file to my computer and it played back on my computer; it plays in real time. Right clicking the file and then >properties>details showed 60fps. When I record in the "time lapse" mode, the resulting video plays as it should, fast, the clouds or what-have-you roll by. I called Motorola today, spent half an hour, talked to two customer service reps. Nothing. The second one went and got their "hands on Photon Q" He didn't even have a "slow motion" icon in the place I described. I then asked him if the firmware was updated on the phone. It was not. I have "77.8.10.XT897.Sprint.en.US" which is the recent update I believe. Would someone mind just trying this slow motion feature out and telling me whether is works for my piece of mind? Thanks!

Just checked this, an apparently when you record a video with 60fps mode, you then have the option to adjust the playback speed in the lower left corner (landscape orientation) from 1x to 1/2, 1/4, and 1/8. This option is missing on normal videos. Haven't tested yet how it translates off the phone on youtube or such. Maybe setting the playback speed sticks in the file?
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Well done man Thank you
Wow! you are observant!
I did not notice the x factor in bottom left! I tapped it, changed the speed, exported the file to dropbox, played it back on my computer and it was in slow motion. Is this documented and i totally missed it? Even the Motorola folk were confounded...

****s awesome, I'm gonna have some sweet ass gifs for 4chan.
Sent from my XT897 using xda app-developers app

bryanfritz1 said:
****s awesome, I'm gonna have some sweet ass gifs for 4chan.
Sent from my XT897 using xda app-developers app
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That made me lol

Umm, I was mistaken
The video is apparently taken in 60p. It plays back in 60p which makes it real-time. The Photon can play it back at 30 which makes it 1/2 speed, and smooth. Exported, a player (VLC etc) wants to play it back at 60fps = realtime. As far as i can tell, you need to change the playback speed with an editing program to have it play back at another speed (say 30p) in a normal player. Hope this helps ...

This is seriously Crazy by Vivo!!!

Okay this had to be the title for the thread as what i discovered about NEX is seriously crazy.
What i discovered is, that NEX's display can render much better colours both while watching videos and browsing images, but the built AI **** is decreasing the quality of the display by reducing the saturation and a bit of sharpness.
How i discovered this: While i was browsing some 2K videos on NEX youtube app, i watched on video which is a 2K HDR 10 video and it looked completely off on the NEX display. It looked completely greyed out and horribly pale and i right away knew that the built in AI is doing something wrong. So, to further confirm this, i downloaded this app called NewPipe, which streams youtube videos and i saw that the same video which was looking horrible on the stock youtube app is looking really nice on this app. In fact the colours were looking as good as it looked on my Note 8. I was super surprised for a moment as i never thought NEX's display is capable of matching the Note 8's display in terms of colours and sharpness. So, once i was sure that its the AI thats decreasing the saturation of the display while we watch any content using the stock app, i downloaded a Gallery app from play store to check if its doing the same thing to the pictures too and as it turned out, the colours of the same image looked so much more better on that third party gallery app than it did in the stock gallery app.
So, now what i really want to know is, how to switch this AI thing off. If not completely, i want to at least disable it while watching videos and browsing images. I seriously dont know why has Vivo done this, as it is not doing any good to the display. In fact its bringing down the actual performance of the display which would have affected their sales over all. I am sure there would have been people comparing the Note 8 or S9's display to NEX and would have changed their decision based on it and one famous reviewer has compared it against the S9 plus and he clearly says the NEX's display cant match to the S9's, which is not at all the case.
I am super sensitive about colours and i really really happy that NEX can deliver colours as good as my Note 8, which was my only complain. While i am super happy after discovering this, i am equally restless to figure out a way to disable that AI thing on certain apps. You guys too can do this test and see the results for yourself. Let me know if anyone of you can find a solution for this.
Also, attaching comparison pictures of the display colours while using the stock gallery app against using a third party app.

shri080 said:
Okay this had to be the title for the thread as what i discovered about NEX is seriously crazy.
What i discovered is, that NEX's display can render much better colours both while watching videos and browsing images, but the built AI **** is decreasing the quality of the display by reducing the saturation and a bit of sharpness.
How i discovered this: While i was browsing some 2K videos on NEX youtube app, i watched on video which is a 2K HDR 10 video and it looked completely off on the NEX display. It looked completely greyed out and horribly pale and i right away knew that the built in AI is doing something wrong. So, to further confirm this, i downloaded this app called NewPipe, which streams youtube videos and i saw that the same video which was looking horrible on the stock youtube app is looking really nice on this app. In fact the colours were looking as good as it looked on my Note 8. I was super surprised for a moment as i never thought NEX's display is capable of matching the Note 8's display in terms of colours and sharpness. So, once i was sure that its the AI thats decreasing the saturation of the display while we watch any content using the stock app, i downloaded a Gallery app from play store to check if its doing the same thing to the pictures too and as it turned out, the colours of the same image looked so much more better on that third party gallery app than it did in the stock gallery app.
So, now what i really want to know is, how to switch this AI thing off. If not completely, i want to at least disable it while watching videos and browsing images. I seriously dont know why has Vivo done this, as it is not doing any good to the display. In fact its bringing down the actual performance of the display which would have affected their sales over all. I am sure there would have been people comparing the Note 8 or S9's display to NEX and would have changed their decision based on it and one famous reviewer has compared it against the S9 plus and he clearly says the NEX's display cant match to the S9's, which is not at all the case.
I am super sensitive about colours and i really really happy that NEX can deliver colours as good as my Note 8, which was my only complain. While i am super happy after discovering this, i am equally restless to figure out a way to disable that AI thing on certain apps. You guys too can do this test and see the results for yourself. Let me know if anyone of you can find a solution for this.
Also, attaching comparison pictures of the display colours while using the stock gallery app against using a third party app.
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I too noticed this while putting wallpapers on mobile.
From 1st day I am using Google's gallery app i.e. Photos , while pictures looked brilliant in the app but whenever I set a picture as wallpaper , it looks dull.
Second time I noticed it when I saw Avengers on MX player, colors looked bright and punchy where as it's trailer on YouTube looked very dull in comparison.

Exactly!! Hope someone can find a solution for this. Such a shame they are restricting what this phone can deliver.
Abby 244 said:
I too noticed this while putting wallpapers on mobile.
From 1st day I am using Google's gallery app i.e. Photos , while pictures looked brilliant in the app but whenever I set a picture as wallpaper , it looks dull.
Second time I noticed it when I saw Avengers on MX player, colors looked bright and punchy where as it's trailer on YouTube looked very dull in comparison.
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HOLLY CRAP!!! I looked at your pictures but really couldn't see it. I then did same test you did and I'm Blown Away. This is horrible. See the attached examples. We need to chase support on this one for sure. For reference..I used the YouTube app vs new pipe app. U also checked the stock photo gallery versus a replacement photo gallery and you can also see the difference there ....see the last pic

roxboxxx said:
HOLLY CRAP!!! I looked at your pictures but really couldn't see it. I then did same test you did and I'm Blown Away. This is horrible. See the attached examples. We need to chase support on this one for sure. For reference..I used the YouTube app vs new pipe app. U also checked the stock photo gallery versus a replacement photo gallery and you can also see the difference there ....see the last pic
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Here is the gallery pic

shri080 said:
Okay this had to be the title for the thread as what i discovered about NEX is seriously crazy.
What i discovered is, that NEX's display can render much better colours both while watching videos and browsing images, but the built AI **** is decreasing the quality of the display by reducing the saturation and a bit of sharpness.
How i discovered this: While i was browsing some 2K videos on NEX youtube app, i watched on video which is a 2K HDR 10 video and it looked completely off on the NEX display. It looked completely greyed out and horribly pale and i right away knew that the built in AI is doing something wrong. So, to further confirm this, i downloaded this app called NewPipe, which streams youtube videos and i saw that the same video which was looking horrible on the stock youtube app is looking really nice on this app. In fact the colours were looking as good as it looked on my Note 8. I was super surprised for a moment as i never thought NEX's display is capable of matching the Note 8's display in terms of colours and sharpness. So, once i was sure that its the AI thats decreasing the saturation of the display while we watch any content using the stock app, i downloaded a Gallery app from play store to check if its doing the same thing to the pictures too and as it turned out, the colours of the same image looked so much more better on that third party gallery app than it did in the stock gallery app.
So, now what i really want to know is, how to switch this AI thing off. If not completely, i want to at least disable it while watching videos and browsing images. I seriously dont know why has Vivo done this, as it is not doing any good to the display. In fact its bringing down the actual performance of the display which would have affected their sales over all. I am sure there would have been people comparing the Note 8 or S9's display to NEX and would have changed their decision based on it and one famous reviewer has compared it against the S9 plus and he clearly says the NEX's display cant match to the S9's, which is not at all the case.
I am super sensitive about colours and i really really happy that NEX can deliver colours as good as my Note 8, which was my only complain. While i am super happy after discovering this, i am equally restless to figure out a way to disable that AI thing on certain apps. You guys too can do this test and see the results for yourself. Let me know if anyone of you can find a solution for this.
Also, attaching comparison pictures of the display colours while using the stock gallery app against using a third party app.
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Can you compare both mobiles playing Netflix and Amazon prime?

Abby 244 said:
Can you compare both mobiles playing Netflix and Amazon prime?
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I did and the colors look much better on the Note 8 and I am sure that the colours on the NEX can also look equally better provided someone finds out a way to turn of the AI thing.

I wish I can unsee it

If you want to really hate the AI, access YouTube in your mobile browser and then switch to request the desktop version. Then set it to a high resolution and look at the stunning quality.
I now seriously hate this AI!

Also just validated ..this is happening with the official and vanced versions of the YouTube app.
Tested:
- I installed older official YouTube apps - same issue
- I installed a few third party YouTube apps - all had beautiful color saturation

Jesus!!
What a mess.
Good that i'm always uninstalling all stock app and replaced them with third party for example for gallery i'm using Google Photo or Quick Pic with all my smartphone.
But must be some kind of spesific services related to AI that should remove via ADB that would be the best solution.

Anyone contact ViVo about this problem ?

t7gc7 said:
Anyone contact ViVo about this problem ?
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I will be tomorrow with the photos and this forum presented as exhibits. I have been talking to vivo support on an off for the past week, so I suspect it will at least get logged.

I see the same problem. I used ES Explorer and default album with multitask to compare side by side. Really strange ...

I always use the QuickPic Since I got the device , However noticed the Bad quality with YouTube when I attempted to test a Video Playback . Mx player has better performance.
Lets Push Vivo Team to Correct this , There is a separate thread on XDA requesting them to release the source code.
Once they release the Source , I guess these problems will be Easily resolved.
Regards,
H

Also, you guys can use a third party app to set the wallpapers for both desktop and lock screen. It looks so much better when you do that. And if we should reach to Vivo on this. It's shame that their team has not checked on this, which is such a major thing.

Youtube and Youtube Vanced apps are playing video in 1080p HDR / 4KHDR mode , NewPipe is playing video in 1080p/4K Normal mode. you can check in video stream selection settings.

kpsr_007 said:
Youtube and Youtube Vanced apps are playing video in 1080p HDR / 4KHDR mode , NewPipe is playing video in 1080p/4K Normal mode. you can check in video stream selection settings.
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That's interesting. But where do you find those settings? On the youtube app or under phone settings?

kpsr_007 said:
Youtube and Youtube Vanced apps are playing video in 1080p HDR / 4KHDR mode , NewPipe is playing video in 1080p/4K Normal mode. you can check in video stream selection settings.
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Just download and install newpipe apk and then see the difference.

Abby 244 said:
Just download and install newpipe apk and then see the difference.
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I just do it and ... Wouah ...