Touch Pro or Vario 4 - Touch Pro, Fuze General

Im a bit torn between the two...
Yes i know there the same hardware but i quite like the curves on the vario4...
I just wish Tmobile hurryed up as im starting to get a bit tired waiting. I might just get the Touch pro soon if they dont.

NutsyUK said:
Im a bit torn between the two...
Yes i know there the same hardware but i quite like the curves on the vario4...
I just wish Tmobile hurryed up as im starting to get a bit tired waiting. I might just get the Touch pro soon if they dont.
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There are various rumours about this - a "senior" T Mobile manager has posted elsewhere that they actually already have these, they are just trying to clear their stock of Vario III before stocking this. Also, it will apparently be "end of November" at the earliest.
Finally, T Mobile are doing something odd with their handset upgrade costs ATM - on a £42.50/month contract they are charging upgrade customers RRP of handset + £75 which makes it VERY expensive (it's even £370 for an Omnia!).
So for most people it will make Vod a better choice.

Ahhh right now im looking at getting the phone from Ebay...
But i was looking just as design aspect. I think the vario4 is just slightly better looking

and like-wise i think you'll also have problems when it comes to getting spares for the handset like ive had with my vario II!

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[Q] Fuze really worth it!?

Hi, I see a few people complaining about how the TouchPRO is better than the ATT Fuze, because of X and Y reason. I saw a few reviews on you tube, and read a few topics in here.
I have a Few Qs:
-The screen of the FUZE/touch pro, is it hard (like the iphone) or is it soft (like the TILT screen) ??
-Read or see somewere that ATT take out the YouTube "program" (or what ever that is called), is that true!?? so the Fuze users cant use the "cool" youtube app the TouchPro has?
-I have a Tilt, should I buy the Fuze!?
-anything else i need to know before buying it!??
thanks 4 your help
1. Fuze is worth it. TP isn't. Fuze is $200 cheaper. Big difference. Unless you don't care
2. The screen is harder than the tilt, but softer than the iPhone
3. Youtube program is in the /Windows folder, Aee tee n tee just decided to take it out from the Internet tab on TF3D and from the Start menu
4. Yeah. I had a tilt, I still have a tilt, but I bought the fuze. So much better. Loving it since Nov 12.
5. Finger print magnet. Don't drop it. Get a case and invisibleSHIELD for it.
6. Also. Some of these has been asked before. Please search
There are benefits to both, if you really want the device go for it and be happy. Either one is a good phone.
I wanted to get the Fuze because I want 3g support. I have no regrets about it or their changes to the device really.
The Tilt has some good Roms for it and I know a few people who have held back upgrading because they did not feel the price was worth it for just looks when they could get their Tilts to work similarly. Upgraded hardware not mentioned by them.
Kraize;
Do you know where the list or shortcuts are pulled from for the "All Programs" button on the programs tab? I want to add YouTube to that vs my start menu but cant seem to locate that full list. At least not yet...
The Fuze is the better deal.. unless of course you have tmobile in an area that doesn't have 3G and are willing to shell out an extra $250 for a front camera.. then get the TP.
Because I've made my Fuze nothing short of the HTC Touch Pro, except for the camera.. and of course minor differences in housing (the back is very glossy)... which i change the housing to my phones every 4 months.. so it doesn't matter
thanks guys, the thing is that I have to b uy it to ATT at the full price, cause I dont even have 1 year on my 2 year comitment I made last december
I forgot to say that, so for me both the TOUCH PRO and FUZE cost basically the same.
I got the fuze today. THe phone it self is good but ATT sucks >_< im gona return it in a few weeks so i can actually benfit payn for the first month...
egk-69 said:
thanks guys, the thing is that I have to b uy it to ATT at the full price, cause I dont even have 1 year on my 2 year comitment I made last december
I forgot to say that, so for me both the TOUCH PRO and FUZE cost basically the same.
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Go with the Fuze if you're in an area with AT&T 3G service. The Touch Pro doesn't support AT&T's 3G bands. It's that simple.
If you're comfortable enough with ROM flashing, you can make your Fuze exactly into a Touch Pro (with a PTT button on the side and no front camera) or you can get a cleaner, smooth-running AT&T ROM by installing the NATF Fuze ROM here on the ROM dev forum. This is highly recommended because AT&T limits the speed on the Fuze to UMTS, but their network and the Fuze are HSDPA-capable. It's still pretty snappy even with the stock ROM.
Read my info here to help with your decision too:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2921230&postcount=7
I was just able to play the FM radio through my Headphones and then start up MusicID and ID the song...how freakin awesome is that?!?
Fuze FTW
thank you guys, I love this forums!!
Another Q: anywere I can buy a Fuze (no contract, cause I cant) cheaper than AT&T price!???
let me know i really want the phone (kinda Gift it to my self in this cristmas) but im kinda broke right now, hehe
Thanks
egk-69 said:
thank you guys, I love this forums!!
Another Q: anywere I can buy a Fuze (no contract, cause I cant) cheaper than AT&T price!???
let me know i really want the phone (kinda Gift it to my self in this cristmas) but im kinda broke right now, hehe
Thanks
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same here, except that I'm not broke. Just sold my tilt for $500
wow!! 500 for the TILT!!!
wow, how can I sell mine on that price!?, hehe
I want to sell my tilt so I can buy the Fuze, I would love to buy the Fuze, but i dont think is going to be possible for a long time, I still have 1 year more of contract so I cant buy it at the 2 year comitment price, and the no contract price its too high for me right now...
egk-69 said:
wow!! 500 for the TILT!!!
wow, how can I sell mine on that price!?, hehe
I want to sell my tilt so I can buy the Fuze, I would love to buy the Fuze, but i dont think is going to be possible for a long time, I still have 1 year more of contract so I cant buy it at the 2 year comitment price, and the no contract price its too high for me right now...
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Talk to the store managers. I was 11 months into my 2 year on att. They let me have it for 299 and just added 13 months to my contract to make it 2 years again. They can do it without any hassle if they want to. Sold my tilt for 225 so it only cost me 75 bucks to upgrade (that and another 24 months stuck on att again)
laakness said:
I was just able to play the FM radio through my Headphones and then start up MusicID and ID the song...how freakin awesome is that?!?
Fuze FTW
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i just tried it too..FREAKEN AWESOME! <3
Front Camera
Hi everyone.
This forum is amazing.
I read XDA almost everyday .
The only complain I have for the FUZE is why they removed the Front Camera.
That is the only part I can complain about the FUZE after having a cook rom on it.
I bought a Tilt with AT&T contract extension in late October, and then returned it under AT&T's 30-day return policy in order to buy the Fuze. Overall, I'm very happy I made the switch. I much prefer the form factor of the Fuze (totally flat front, smaller more manageable size), and the VGA screen is awesome. Upgraded hardware specs are nice, but frankly haven't given any noticeable performance difference over the Tilt.
The things I don't like about the Fuze are as follows:
- Glossy finish (prefer hard-rubberized surface)
- Screen is "hard", requiring more effort than the softer Tilt screen
- Although I still can't believe that this flaw passed the HTC design team, the back of the HTC phone is not flat, but has this lame Diamond pattern with little ridges that prevent the phone from lying flat on a desk.
- Fewer hard buttons than Tilt, and no jog wheel (admittedly, I've gotten used to the Fuze layout and don't miss the lack of hard buttons).
- I think TouchFlo3D is lame, and finally removed it from my device yesterday. I prefer the HTC Home interface from the Tilt (which I'm now using on my Fuze).
The AT&T Fuze was, for me, very slow out-of-the-box. I flashed a cooked HTC Rom, and I've very pleased with the results. Although I thought the Tilt was an awesome phone, I don't miss it one bit. I like to keep cell phones for at least 3 years (preferably 4), so wanted something with the best hardware specs that should hold up well over time.
- DDB

Is the fuze discontinued?

I went to the att website to find out the price of the fuze and realized that its not there anymore. Is the fuze discontinued? Is att coming out whit a upgrade soon?
mackdaddy09 said:
I went to the att website to find out the price of the fuze and realized that its not there anymore. Is the fuze discontinued? Is att coming out whit a upgrade soon?
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I believe it has been. The AT&T Touch Pro 2 (Tilt 2) is rumored to be released on October 18th.
they dont discontinue it cause a new one is on its way. if it has a section for zip code then its prolly cutting out some of the phones. i know many of the stores in houston are still selling the fuze and the tilt. the phone hasnt been out even a year. everyone with a fuze is still under warranty and everything.
Actually they have discontinued it. I went to an AT&T Replacement store and they would replace the battery for my Fuze because they told me the fuze is discontinued.
It just barely disappeared from the website, but you haven't been able to get it since late August.
My Tilt gave out about then (company phone), and I went it to have it replaced with what I assumed would be a Fuze. There wasn't any there, and when they looked, there was only one in the entire state, and the store that had it wouldn't send it down. They claimed they could order one, but I doubt it would ever have come.
It's pretty clear in hindsight that they were clearing inventory ahead of the TP2 coming out (supposedly) October 18. I think they jumped the gun by a month or so, but hey, if you can't get a Fuze, that's a perfect chance to try to sell an iPhone, right?
hollywould said:
Actually they have discontinued it. I went to an AT&T Replacement store and they would replace the battery for my Fuze because they told me the fuze is discontinued.
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can't get a new battery? D: or you can?
I was just on the att website and i saw they have a phone called the htc pure. I do you guess believe this phone is the fuze replacement?
mackdaddy09 said:
I was just on the att website and i saw they have a phone called the htc pure. I do you guess believe this phone is the fuze replacement?
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Fuze is basically an HTC Touch Pro. The "Pure" is based on the HTC Touch Diamond 2. AT&T will also carry the HTC Touch Pro 2 as the "Tilt 2".
In other words, the manufacturing cycle for Touch Pro / Fuze is over. The Fuze device is not rolling off the assembly line anymore. Instead, AT&T has ordered volumes of the HTC Diamond 2 (Pure) and HTC Touch Pro 2 )Tilt 2) from HTC.
Get it?
BTW, I am in the market for a used Fuze in decent condition. PM me if you have one to sell.
I don't like either of the new phones. The Pure looks like the regular diamond. The screen is no bigger then the Fuze (maybe a tad longer).
The Tilt2 reminds me of my Axim x51v. It is about the same size as an iPhone but thicker. Too bad it is identical to the Fuze as far as processor/memory/camera goes.
I like the idea of a bigger screen, but I can't justify spending $300+ for just a new feature. My Fuze already has a newer WM build than Tilt2 out of the box. Just seems expensive for what they are.
I'm holding out. I hear AT&T is picking up the Omnia II which is same screen res but 800mhz proc. 5MP camera too. Or wait for the HTC Leo
I agree with you. I moved from the Wiz AkA Cingular 8125 to the FUZE last fall. So you can see what a big jump that was. The pure and Tilt 2 is a short coming. Same specs just repackaged. I will wait and hope ATT gets the new HD2 (Leo) or something of that caliber.
I can’t thank XDA enough for being the best community for people who share the same passion.
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I don't like either of the new phones. The Pure looks like the regular diamond. The screen is no bigger then the Fuze (maybe a tad longer).
The Tilt2 reminds me of my Axim x51v. It is about the same size as an iPhone but thicker. Too bad it is identical to the Fuze as far as processor/memory/camera goes.
I like the idea of a bigger screen, but I can't justify spending $300+ for just a new feature. My Fuze already has a newer WM build than Tilt2 out of the box. Just seems expensive for what they are.
I'm holding out. I hear AT&T is picking up the Omnia II which is same screen res but 800mhz proc. 5MP camera too. Or wait for the HTC Leo
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Yea since the Tilt2 and Pure (TP2 TD2) came to AT&T, i've been really looking at my Fuze. I love the fact that XDA is great and allows my Fuze to be more then what it actually was developed for. With that said I was never really happy with my Fuze. I think it is the thickness that really kills it. The microphone is horrible too... I'm always getting complaints that background noise is SO bad on my phone (and I've gone through a couple units).
I was really happy with my Dell Axim x51v which could pretty much do anything, except make calls. The Tilt2 reminds me of my Axim but it just seems like a side step to the fuze then a step up.
Seems all current HTC phones max out at 528mhz. I can't really say whether AT&T will top their new phones in a few short months. I'd love to wait around for the Leo but I seriously doubt AT&T will get it for a year or so (if at all). US Carriers never pick up the awesome phones.
Perhaps the Leo will be the upgrade to the Pure next year.
I'm actually on my 3rd FUZE. It's not a bad phone, I agree... It is a bit brickish... Also its very top heavy.
I would have to agree with the speakerphone.... Even using voice command... I have to repeat the command like 10 thousand times when its not dead silence.
But other then that, its got some great roms (Tael&Energy) and it does not look like they are going to be giving up on the phone anytime soon.
The last phone had an issue with white screen, and the phone randomly hard resetted.
They infomed me the last call that the next issue I have, I would be able to do an upgrade due to all of the problems I have been experiencing.
That was about a month ago (seems like when I get close to the endlife of my warranty the phones go nuts. I guess part of me is lucky that it does not happen until after the warranty expired)
My phone has been dropping calls like crazy for the past week, regardless of the rom, even the stock AT&T rom. Even when I put my girls sim in, same issue.... So I guess it's time to call AT&T...
If they are going to exchange the phone, I really would like to get the Tilt2.
I know if I call them now, they are going to end up giving me trouble or me getting suck with a blackberry or iphone...lol
Anyone else have this problem? How long should I wait... I've never ran into this problem before.
I got my first Fuze because my Tilt had the random white screen issue. It was the 3rd tilt I returned, so they let me upgrade to the Fuze. This was also a few months ago. I ended up getting my second Fuze (which I still have now) because of the trap door on the back coming loose 2 days after I got it.
I do see the issues coming right around 60-90 days after I get the phones. I am wondering if this one will have an issue too Course, I do get my upgrade in November.
I just checked my ATT account... The Fuze is listed as out of stock online, they are showing BOTH the Pure and Tilt 2 now as available upgrades.
The Pure is listed with a 5.0 MP camera, Tilt 2 has 3.2. Both have the same amount of Ram and Rom size as the Fuze... I thought the Tilt2 was supposed to be a little better?
I've had my Fuze about 3 months via a free upgrade (from my Tilt) from AT&T. I know there are better phones out there, but I have been very happy with waiting for things to get fully utilized and most bugs worked out of them before I adopt.
Now, can someone point me to where a fix for the Comm Manager ON/OFF Icons can be found. I have been searching the XDA forums without any luck! I will post a separate thread for it...
PhantomYoda said:
I just checked my ATT account... The Fuze is listed as out of stock online, they are showing BOTH the Pure and Tilt 2 now as available upgrades.
The Pure is listed with a 5.0 MP camera, Tilt 2 has 3.2. Both have the same amount of Ram and Rom size as the Fuze... I thought the Tilt2 was supposed to be a little better?
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yes i know its weird how pure and tilt 2 differs ESPECIALLY with camera quality, HTC shouldve been fair enough to slap a 5MP camera on the Rhodium instead of a crappy 3.2mp we got on the Fuze, anyways, specs are the same as well, but the fact that when i looked at the review videos...it seems like the Rhodium seems faster and flawless, but still same specs
youre lucky that u have an upgrade in Nov, mine is next Nov xD
i would definitely buy the tilt 2 for the better keyboard and big screen and battery life but whats holding me back is the LED Flash....thats a useful thing for me to have because i use it as a flashlight if i dont have one in hand
The Jack of Clubs said:
they dont discontinue it cause a new one is on its way. if it has a section for zip code then its prolly cutting out some of the phones. i know many of the stores in houston are still selling the fuze and the tilt. the phone hasnt been out even a year. everyone with a fuze is still under warranty and everything.
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the AT&T store i went to not too long ago doesnt carry the device anymore which i think is insane! it doesnt make sense to me and some people that why pull out a great phone for a newer one thats got the same specs?and its not even a year old yet? Verizon and Sprint still have their TPs out on display along with the TP2. AT&T should smack their heads back together and put the FUZE back up on the displays over here in this area or anywhere, at least until they get their hands on the Leo, if thats possible....

Samsung Omnia II Verizon

Anyone have this phone? My XV6800 feel in water so I am looking at the Ominia II or the TP2. I need to order today. Was hoping to use my NE2 discount next year with Windows Mobile 7 but I guess now I will just pay full price.
The Omnia II looks nice with the OLED screen, camera flash, 5MP camera, and fast processor (compared to the old ones in TP2). But there is no keyboard and it looks like you cannot turn off Touch Wiz. But other then that is seems less outdated tech then the TP2 (which has a great keyboard, speakerphone, and awesome xda support).
So yeah anyone with experience with the Omnia II it would be greatly apperciated. Hopfully whatever phone I get, it arrives no later then Tuesday.
edit: Forget about it, just going to get TP2 while I wait for WM7...
segadc said:
edit: Forget about it, just going to get TP2 while I wait for WM7...
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Great choice!!!
You won´t regret!
Rhodium is much better than any omnia model
orb3000 said:
Rhodium is much better than any omnia model
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Omnia2 much better
And of course you can turn off TouchWiz
Although it's too late now, you could always drop an eye on Omnia Pro i.e. OmniaII+keyboard (almost), and off course, much much CHEAPER than TP2.
Yeah too late but also the Ominia Pro is not on Verizon at least now. I read that at least the Verizon version of Omnia II turning off Touchwiz only disables the cube or something. I did see HTC sense on it but it looked laggy for now.
My keys (almost all of them) on my XV6800 are working (still call, end, and most buttons minus the standby butt is not working). But the day it didn't I could not stand to text for a long time with just the screen (especially on a resistive. So ultimately that is why I went with the TP2.
I was not excited at all for the TP2 mainly since I convinced myself to skip it and hold out with my XV6800 until WM7 is out. But today I am really excited for the TP2. It will be nice to finally have a screen higher then QVG and more RAM . Still wish it had a camera flash. I guess my wait for WM7 will be a tad easier now. At this point I would not mind paying full price if we get something like the HD2 with a keyboard late next yeah. So yeah hurry up Fedex (tommorow is the day)!

I might jump ship on this one soon please help

hey all,
im just bout in the range of buying the Tilt 2 but idk if i wanna jump ship though, i really need it because of the big 3.6inch screen and the beautiful keyboard, ive been going back and forth to AT&T lately checking it out and also looking for the expo, unfortunately the rep told me its not out yet but soon, i would get it for the snapdragon but my fuze is quick already and wont notice anything anyways, so the expo is out of the picture, so the real question is, is the tilt 2 really worth smacking 300 dollars in replacement of the fuze? and even though theres other newer devices out already?
looking foward to everyones input on this, thanks!
XERO_Racer said:
hey all,
im just bout in the range of buying the Tilt 2 but idk if i wanna jump ship though, i really need it because of the big 3.6inch screen and the beautiful keyboard, ive been going back and forth to AT&T lately checking it out and also looking for the expo, unfortunately the rep told me its not out yet but soon, i would get it for the snapdragon but my fuze is quick already and wont notice anything anyways, so the expo is out of the picture, so the real question is, is the tilt 2 really worth smacking 300 dollars in replacement of the fuze? and even though theres other newer devices out already?
looking foward to everyones input on this, thanks!
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Keep your Fuze for now ATT is supposed to get 5 android phones this year.
Hmmm
I moved from the Touch Pro to the Touch Pro 2, under the assumption that the only difference was the screen, as the specs were essentially the same... But I'm glad I did, It's a far better and quicker (at stock level) device than the TP, I didn't want to go android because of all the apps I have for WinMo and despite some peoples gripe with WinMo, I don't generally have any issues with it.
Plus, a lot of the new devices are being released sort of iPhone-esq, screen only and the TP2 is the only device available (where I am at least) with a decent hardware keyboard.
I had been debating about upgrading to the TP2 for a while also. But I've held off mainly because the hardware specs are almost identical (except for the larger screen). I figured that I would be better off waiting until a Windows Mobile slider phone with a faster processor and larger screen was released. Although I have been oh so tempted to purchase T-Mobile's HD2 when it's released.
Same boat. what are the other prospects? i was highly considering the tp2

Thinking about a new phone...any good BT keyboard case combos?

So, I've been thinking about taking the plunge and getting a new device. I know that the hard keyboard slider selection is limited, but how about a nice new phone with a great BT keyboard case? Any good combinations out there?
Android only of course. T-Mobile USA.
rorytmeadows said:
So, I've been thinking about taking the plunge and getting a new device. I know that the hard keyboard slider selection is limited, but how about a nice new phone with a great BT keyboard case? Any good combinations out there?
Android only of course. T-Mobile USA.
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I don't know about any BT cases, but I'm waiting to see what Motorola brings out (the Xphone?) and also perhaps what the next Nexus will be. Maybe then the current Nexus 4 will lower in price even more and be extra tempting. I'm also interested in the Huawei Ascend P2. When I go back to China (likely in February) I could pick up one of those much cheaper than here. Maybe my partner would even buy it for me. :fingers-crossed:
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I don't know about any BT cases, but I'm waiting to see what Motorola brings out (the Xphone?) and also perhaps what the next Nexus will be. Maybe then the current Nexus 4 will lower in price even more and be extra tempting. I'm also interested in the Huawei Ascend P2. When I go back to China (likely in February) I could pick up one of those much cheaper than here. Maybe my partner would even buy it for me. :fingers-crossed:
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I hate to say this but I think I might actually buy a Samsung GS4 today. Since I'd be an idiot to wait around for the next big QWERTY slider, I might as well get a phone with a virtual keyboard big enough for my fat fingers. I thought about the HTC One, but swappable battery, storage, and daylight camera make it for me.
Well, despite what I was looking for, Samsung Galaxy S4 it is. I guess with a big enough screen the virtual keyboard isn't as bad. I'm not saying it's great, but I have little choice.
The features and speed make the phone, but the size of the screen is just plain wonderful.
I'll probably be putting my touchscreen less parts phone up, along with 2 Powermat back panels, 2 leather holsters and the official car dock. Anyone interested in any of the above?
I did see a cool BT keyboard for the samsung S3 months ago on ebay for real cheap and it was really thin so it looked ok. Not sure if they have a S4 version now or if you can use the samething. I still love my mytouch slide but when I get sick of it in 2 yrs Ill be here asking for recommendations lol cause I need a slide out keyboard I dont like touch screen keyboards

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