HTC sells Camera-less model? - General Topics

I'm wondering if anyone here knows whether HTC offers non-camera variants of its [newer] cellphones. As usual, not much turns up on google as companies don't usually advertise (or even list!) such variants. Currently I own an Elfin running Onyx 2.2 firmware obtained from this forum, but soon I'll be starting work in an organization which prohibits all forms of cameras. It's a shame to have to ditch the HTC in favor of those cheap $60 trash-phones which do nothing save transceive calls and SMSes. (...and not to mention a significant inconvenience as I'll have to buy a separate pda/laptop etc.)

take it out yourself?
i saw someone asking the same thing in the raphael forums, because he has the same dilemma. said he took the camera out of his tytn ii

Cingular 3100 WM5(6.1) smartphone doesn't have a camera, instead of Cingular 3125 (the same but with camera)

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Best supported HTC linux phone?

Hello;
I'm very new to this forum. I'm thinking about purchasing a phone to use with qwest wireless and I'm wondering what is the *best supported* phone availible for my wireless phone provider? I would like to run gpe or opie and take calls/place calls and use the wireless adapter (if supported). Based on what I've read so far in the forums, it appears that the Blueangel is the best supported? Is this true? Currently, qwest is offering the HTC PPC-6700 (Apache?) model. How well does this phone work compared to the blueangel model? Any links/URLs would be much appreciated.
Thanks
-cosmic665
P.S. Is this forum and website constantly being updated vs. the handhelds.org site (which is old)?

Verizon PDA with Blackberry Connect?

I recently found out I have to switch to Verizon due to my work. I have been with AT&T the last couple of years and love my GSM phones. I have used several WM phones including the HTC 8525. I most recently have been using a Nokia E51 and really like the phone. Now I see that with Verizon my choices are limited for a non RIM phone that does Blackberry. I was looking at the HTC Touch Pro but have read nothing but bad reviews about battery life, and slow response. I was also looking at the Samsung Omnia but can't find any evidence that BBC works with it. Can anyone here tell me of a Verizon phone that does Blackberry Connect and they actually like the phone?
Any help would be appreciated.
I can't answer your question for you, but I will move the thread to the Q&A section, where it is likely to get more exposure.

[Q] Help me choose a new WinMo/Android phone (CDMA, to be modified for MetroPCS)

Its time for me to find a new phone. Ive gone through three first gen MotoQ over the last few years and this last one is finally starting to fall apart which is quite amazing since it was announced five years ago (if it isnt broke dont fix it, and if it breaks fix it!). I've been a MetroPCS customer going on six years now and have no intention of switching providers
Help me find a phone with the following requirements -
Android OR Windows Mobile 6+
Able to be modified for MetroPCS
A full keyboard (can be a slider, flip or front facing keyboard like the MotoQ)
Price under 200$ new or used
Some nice features to have but not required would be -
Charges through standard mini usb
Extended life batteries (or brand new original batteries) available
Some type of tethering solution (currently i do this through USB)
I don't mind if the phone is old, even a model from four years ago if it works well
I am in the San Francisco bay area (LTE is available)
I often use my MotoQ to send MMS and the Google Maps application even though the speed is very slow (perhaps because of my device?).
Three times I have paid someone to add the "foreign" ESN of my phones into the MetroPCS database so it would be a definite plus (not a requirement) if the phone had the ability to directly take over for my current MotoQ without the extra fees (electronic serial number change).
You dont have to give me all the details on how to hack the phone onto metro, if you give me a model number I will do my own homework.
My girlfriend insists on getting me a phone for my birthday. I think she is tired of seeing me carry around this ratty old phone that no one still uses.
Thanks for your suggestions
Based on all your needs, the best fit would be a Sprint HTC Touch Pro 2 (Rhodium). It also runs Android now, as well as WM 6.1/6.5.
I have little experience with CDMA, but from what I understand most devices whether they have a good or a bad ESN can be flashed for any carrier other than the original. I haven't seen any CDMA Rhodiums for sale here on the forums, but you could always try eBay. They're pretty cheap these days too
Good Luck!
Thanks for the quick reply. I will have to look into that model more but so far it does seem to do what I wanted!
I was starting to lean towards the Moto Droid 2. Apparently it is not too difficult to get it functioning properly on MetroPCS and it has decent specs. The price for used models isnt bad and its running 2.2 android stock, with a 2.3.3 hack available
braschlosan said:
Thanks for the quick reply. I will have to look into that model more but so far it does seem to do what I wanted!
I was starting to lean towards the Moto Droid 2. Apparently it is not too difficult to get it functioning properly on MetroPCS and it has decent specs. The price for used models isnt bad and its running 2.2 android stock, with a 2.3.3 hack available
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Also true, with the added benefit that if you ever move away from CDMA, you'll have a GSM radio in there too. I can only speak for the original Milestone, but it was a capable little phone at the time. They reworked the keyboard on the second one, so it seems to be much more user-friendly. I'm not sure how much luck they had with the bootloader on it though, so would pay to do some research there before you buy

What's With The Terrible CDMA Support?

All the U.S. Cdma carriers were late with the first wave of wp7 devices. I'm with Verizon and we didn't get the HTC Trophy until June. Sprint got HTC arrive a couple month earlier but by the time those devices were released in the U.S. they were already year old devices.
So 6 months later GSM is getting the roll out of the mango phones with front facing cameras and those of us with cdma arrives and trophies are looking with no signs of a cdma wp7 with a ff cam in sight. What gives?
How come HTC and Samsung aren't making cdma variants of their phones they give carriers and bringing them to cdma carriers? Like how they brought variants of the HTC touch pro 2 and the HTC evo to all the carriers?
Anyone else getting angry with the lackluster cdma support? Why aren't they launching more phones than just the ones that seemingly come out annually?
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My bet is that Sprint and Verizon are effectively done with bringing CDMA phones to market and they don't want a new phone unless it is an iPhone or 4G (LTE and/or WiMax).
I expect Verizon phones once LTE support hits with Tango.
It'll be spring.
I, for one, am really happy VZW got a 3G WP7 phone. I am in an area that prob will get LTE in the LAST phase of any roll out (we got 3G in Oct 2010). I was also able to get it before the end of unlimited data.
What is killing me isn't carrier support, but hack support. I would love to developed a ROM for the HTC Trophy, but I have the CDMA Verizon version, and it has yet to be unlocked.
I know part of this is that the unlock devs are in China and do not have access to the CDMA Trophy.. but it seems no one wants to get together and buy/send them a Trophy CDMA to work on. :/
I know I can't afford it myself.. and for some reason the price has increased on Amazon Wireless (the phone alone was going for $388, now its $479)... but perhaps if a bunch of us chipped in we could send them one.
I have talked to mwang and cotulla and offered to buy them both Verizon trophies . They have both told me that they have cdma devices in hand and are currently testing .. I know it's taking a while , but the good news is that it IS being worked on . I want a DFT rom as bad as anyone ...hell id settle for interop unlock .. I suppose we just have to be patient .
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Well, it's good to know that its a work in progress. I just pray that the unlock will be based on the 7.5 rom.. many people got burnt by installing the demo rom... (well, maybe you could base it on the demo rom??). The only way to get rid of the demo rom was to install the leaked 7.5 rom (I was refused RMA because of the demo).
Oh well, if I have to go back to the demo just to unlock, I'll pray that is a workable option (many can't unlock after getting 7.5 roms).
Well, there simply are much less CDMA carriers in the world than there are GSM/UMTS ones. Given that Verizon and Sprint seem not to be too much into WP7 that explains why developing those devices is a low priority to the manufacturers.
It is a bit strange considering the Sprint Touch Pro/TP2 were the more popular devices back in the WM days then any of the other carrier devices. Now with the Arrive being almost a direct successor of the Touch Pro 2, you would think it would have gotten the same dedicated treatment, sadly, this is not the case. I do hope Sprint continues with the Arrive and whatever comes next has the same keyboard and a more refined design with the Titan like upgrades.
A 4" screen with the same keyboard, 1.5Ghz processor, and all the other Mango bells and whistles would be grand.
The most frank response is very simple:
The entire world uses GSM.
I know of all of two, maybe three countries where there are even CDMA networks. If I was making a phone, I wouldn't even be thinking about CDMA unless I was selling millions of units and expansion was easiest by using the inferior (whether true or not technologically, CMDA is inferior in a pure business sense) technology.
I know this is true too.
I can't wait for LTE to roll out and put Verizon on the same playing field as most of the world, but I also know that my area will likely be the last, even if it is being used as the primary example of how broadband internet needs to be pushed out to rural areas.
I mean, the other carriers in this area just plain don't care. Dial 16407 as the zipcode into the AT&T and Sprint coverage areas, and you'll see that neither has even got 3G up and running in this area.. let alone 4G! T-Mobile = non-existent.
I can't even get DSL on my outer rims road because Verizon (which just happens to be my land line provider) won't run DSL down it because of a massive farm that takes up the first 1/3 of this section of road!?!
Anyone who says "just move" is ignorant and should be shot.

About htc u12+ support cdma network

Hello everyone, I am from China, my English is very bad, please forgive me. I am a fan of htc, but my htc u11 has been stolen. At present, htc's mobile phone can't be bought in China. I can buy htc u12+ through German Amazon. However, since I use China Telecom, it uses the cdma network. The European version is definitely not supported. Therefore, I would like to ask you if you can brush up the Chinese version or other ways to support China Telecom's cdma. Thank you
You can't. HTC did not build the u12+ with CDMA support.
In the United States Verizon uses CDMA and LTE. The u12 only works on LTE for that network but it has issues.
Tachi91 said:
You can't. HTC did not build the u12+ with CDMA support.
In the United States Verizon uses CDMA and LTE. The u12 only works on LTE for that network but it has issues.
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Thank you for the reply. In China, htc u12+ has been completely removed and cannot be purchased. The Chinese version supports cdma network, but unfortunately it can't be bought now.
While I am an HTC fan, such as yourself, I would recommend getting a different device than the U12+. I have the U12+, live in the US and I am on Verizon's network. I cannot dial emergency numbers (911), the phone has proven to be super fragile (I've broken both the back and the digitizer since purchase, both very expensive to replace), HTC customer support has all but dried up, at least for this device, the U12+ is slated to get Android Pie while other older models have gotten it already, even the lower end U12 Life model all before this Flagship phone. Worse is we're hearing there's are no guarantees that it will ever get the update. I've been reading articles that predict 5G will all but kill HTC, at least in the US market, there seems to be no good news out there for this company. If I had my $1000 (USD) to spend all over again knowing what I know now I would have found a different device.
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While I am an HTC fan, such as yourself, I would recommend getting a different device than the U12+. I have the U12+, live in the US and I am on Verizon's network. I cannot dial emergency numbers (911), the phone has proven to be super fragile (I've broken both the back and the digitizer since purchase, both very expensive to replace), HTC customer support has all but dried up, at least for this device, the U12+ is slated to get Android Pie while other older models have gotten it already, even the lower end U12 Life model all before this Flagship phone. Worse is we're hearing there's are no guarantees that it will ever get the update. I've been reading articles that predict 5G will all but kill HTC, at least in the US market, there seems to be no good news out there for this company. If I had my $1000 (USD) to spend all over again knowing what I know now I would have found a different device.
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Yes, I agree with you. Htc has no innovation, and the update speed has slowed down noticeably. Not only the United States, but China is also the same. But apart from htc, I really can't find a good phone. My request is to be able to use the cdma network, and to use the excellent lcd screen, and the native system that is close to Google.
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...apart from htc, I really can't find a good phone... and the native system that is close to Google.
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The UI was probably 35% of my decision to get this device. I was familiar with Sense and liked it. The specs were probably 40% of my decision. They aren't the absolute best but they are up there. The style/look, my feelings about other HTC devices I've owned and everything else make up the last 25%.
I can't really help you with your CDMA question other than to say that I've had issues on Verizon that I didn't really give much consideration to until this post. If it is true that the device only operates on the LTE portion of the network then that's probably why I had to go to Verizon and have them fix texting for me and probably why I can't dial emergency numbers. There may be other things I'm missing because they aren't as obvious. My entire experience on this device hasn't felt as rich or full as when I was using the HTC M10. I've never experienced that before moving from device to device. I've got probably another 7 to 10 months before I'm aching for a new device and truthfully I don't know what I'm going to do when that time comes.
VidJunky said:
The UI was probably 35% of my decision to get this device. I was familiar with Sense and liked it. The specs were probably 40% of my decision. They aren't the absolute best but they are up there. The style/look, my feelings about other HTC devices I've owned and everything else make up the last 25%.
I can't really help you with your CDMA question other than to say that I've had issues on Verizon that I didn't really give much consideration to until this post. If it is true that the device only operates on the LTE portion of the network then that's probably why I had to go to Verizon and have them fix texting for me and probably why I can't dial emergency numbers. There may be other things I'm missing because they aren't as obvious. My entire experience on this device hasn't felt as rich or full as when I was using the HTC M10. I've never experienced that before moving from device to device. I've got probably another 7 to 10 months before I'm aching for a new device and truthfully I don't know what I'm going to do when that time comes.
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okļ¼Œthanks.I have not used htc 10, I have used htc g11, htc butterfly, htc one m7 m8 and u11. I hope this year htc can get 5g new mobile phone. Since my u11 was stolen, I am using Meizu who my mother has eliminated.

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