PC USB connectivity - G1 Android Development

Hello,
I have a HTC G1 and I couldn't get the windows recognize the device. Guess it needs a driver before I can install apps to test it on the phone. I was referred to this forum by someone in the Android Developers forum. Do you guys have any insight?
Thanks,
mdashali

mdashali said:
Hello,
I have a HTC G1 and I couldn't get the windows recognize the device. Guess it needs a driver before I can install apps to test it on the phone. I was referred to this forum by someone in the Android Developers forum. Do you guys have any insight?
Thanks,
mdashali
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you have one? like sitting in front of you and you can touch it? and to answer question it doesnt sync with computer it syncs with google over the air...

Yes, it was right in front of me a few minutes go. It has gone for a walk around other cubes.
Won't you need to have some connectivity with the PC to use the ADB?

If by "ADB" you mean contacts, all that is sync'd with Google online. Nothing has really been said about connectivity with any desktop PCs yet.

beartard said:
If by "ADB" you mean contacts, all that is sync'd with Google online. Nothing has really been said about connectivity with any desktop PCs yet.
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I have developed an application using the emulator and now wanted to test on the device. How can I load it on the phone? Could you explain the process?
Thanks.

You already have a jump on most of us by actually *having* the phone. A micro-SD card would probably be your best bet.

I have one too, and am having the same USB connectivity problems. The SD card shows up as a USB Mass Storage Device. It wants another driver for what it says is "Android Device".

According to what we've heard so far (here and on tmonews) that's exactly what's expected to happen.

mdashali said:
Yes, it was right in front of me a few minutes go. It has gone for a walk around other cubes.
Won't you need to have some connectivity with the PC to use the ADB?
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how is it possible if g1 release is on oct 22nd?

from all the press releasinfo and various blogs, its beenreported a fe hundred times that the G1 will not sync in any way, shape, or form ith a pc. This also means that youcan not try to install any app on the device through a pc like you can with a pocket pc. You will been to dr the instal file over to the storage card on the G1 and install it from there.
Also, if you actually have the devi, I'm sure all of us here on the site would love to see a detailed video of it. I know we've all seen the dozen from a few weeks ago, but there's still a lot tt was not shown.

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from all the press releasinfo and various blogs, its beenreported a fe hundred times that the G1 will not sync in any way, shape, or form ith a pc. This also means that youcan not try to install any app on the device through a pc like you can with a pocket pc. You will been to dr the instal file over to the storage card on the G1 and install it from there.
Also, if you actually have the devi, I'm sure all of us here on the site would love to see a detailed video of it. I know we've all seen the dozen from a few weeks ago, but there's still a lot tt was not shown.
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yes vid please!! also nick is right your best bet is to probably upload it to your sd card and then put it back into the phone and install from there...if not we should start working on a sync program or something such as this

If i had mine already i would have posted all kinds of info and pictures on it. If you truely have one which i don't see how you could then put us out of our misery and share the wealth lol.

USB mass storage ?
I thought that the phone shows up as a usb mass storage device when plugged into win, mac or linux boxes via USB. Is that not true?

According to the user manual, the SD card shows up as a mass-storage device via USB. It doesn't say anything about the phone's memory.
Stop thinking winmo, guys Why write a sync application when it's drag-and-drop in the first place?

this is true....as far as adding music and whatever else you like you should be able to just drop in onto the sd card right? the only thing that people are needing a sync if for the exchange?

stats555 said:
If i had mine already i would have posted all kinds of info and pictures on it. If you truely have one which i don't see how you could then put us out of our misery and share the wealth lol.
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I have one because of some GOOG connection. I will post a video in a few minutes. I will be glad to give you what ever information you need on the phone that I can access. For those skeptics, here is a picture with the current time showing... http://www.shakechillis.com-a.googlepages.com/

beartard said:
According to the user manual, the SD card shows up as a mass-storage device via USB. It doesn't say anything about the phone's memory.
Stop thinking winmo, guys Why write a sync application when it's drag-and-drop in the first place?
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I found this post in google http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers/msg/b9f5ddc77af39239
I put the binary folder into the SD card under /download. Now I don't know how to access the SD card and launch the application.

If i could only have it for just 3 hours. I would love to open up the phone dissect it, and later see if we can get it into bootloader, maybe mtty.

that "android device"
I *think* that is the debug CLI (not a linux shell) called the Android Debug Bridge.
Interesting that it is client/server and runs on odd port numbers between 5555 and 5585.
http://code.google.com/android/reference/adb.html
Check out the parts about PPP over usb and SHELL under ADB commands.

mdashali said:
I have one because of some GOOG connection. I will post a video in a few minutes. I will be glad to give you what ever information you need on the phone that I can access. For those skeptics, here is a picture with the current time showing... http://www.shakechillis.com-a.googlepages.com/
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Right on man, sorry i didn't mean any disrespect i didn't think it was possible to get one early. Looks sweet, are you happy with it so far? Was wondering what kind of material the outer shell was made out of, is it rubberized or more like a plastic type material? I love the dash shell, it has a rubberized shell.

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How to upload music from the computer to my captivate?

Yesterday i got the Samsung Captivate, i used to have the iphone 3g.. so im completly new to this android thing. I have this basic/noob questions. How to upload my music files to my captivate? BTW, i only received a quickstart manual so its not useful at all.
I have windows 7 so when i tried to connect my phone to the computer via USB it says " Device driver software was not succesfully installed". So i cant see the device connected to the computer in order to paste my music files in there, but at least my captivate says its charging and stays locked, theres nothing i can do to my phone while its connected.
Is there any driver i need to install? cause i didnt receive any cd driver when i purchased my phone.
Ill apreciate if u guys help me plz.
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Yesterday i got the Samsung Captivate, i used to have the iphone 3g.. so im completly new to this android thing. I have this basic/noob questions. How to upload my music files to my captivate? BTW, i only received a quickstart manual so its not useful at all.
I have windows 7 so when i tried to connect my phone to the computer via USB it says " Device driver software was not succesfully installed". So i cant see the device connected to the computer in order to paste my music files in there, but at least my captivate says its charging and stays locked, theres nothing i can do to my phone while its connected.
Is there any driver i need to install? cause i didnt receive any cd driver when i purchased my phone.
Ill apreciate if u guys help me plz.
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Start with this for drivers:
http://androidforums.com/samsung-captivate/123644-captivate-usb-drivers-links-here.html
And look through this if you have problems:
http://androidforums.com/samsung-captivate/124548-windows-cant-find-captivate.html
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Oh, and as far as I know there's no "iTunes" for Android so try this:
http://www.simplehelp.net/2009/07/29/how-to-copy-music-to-your-android-phone-from-windows/
thx!!! it helped a lot. Was more complicated than what i thought. Wasnt just download the driver but go to some options on my cell phone, pick usb mass storage the mount option n stuff like that but finally worked! xD
I might come up with some more questions tho.. till then!
i've heard a lot of people talk about double twist.
http://www.doubletwist.com/dt/Home/Index.dt
Id defineatly recommend double twist. Its really easy to use and I love that I can drag and drop videos into it and it will automatically convert it to the correct file type no matter what phone im using.
Also syncing play lists is really easy
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i've heard a lot of people talk about double twist.
http://www.doubletwist.com/dt/Home/Index.dt
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Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
Samsung has an app called Kies. For some reason it's hidden from the US however I was assured that downloading it from here: http://www.samsung.com/ae/consumer/...XSG/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detail&tab=support
Will work just the same.
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Samsung has an app called Kies. For some reason it's hidden from the US however I was assured that downloading it from here:
Will work just the same.
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I downloaded kies as u said but its not working with my captivate for some reason. Says "Reconnect the device on Samsung Kies(PC Studio) mode. Kies doesn't support this connect mode"
Don't mess with kies, just use drag and drop for simplicity.
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Drag and drop is always easy, but Kies isn't bad for media management (also enables tethering if you select it under Settings->Applications->USB Settings) - you can find it here: http://www.all-samsungphones.com/samsung-wave-s8500-software-kiespc-sync-download.html/
I use Double Twist for my mac (just make sure for windows you have the drivers, you have the USB debugging active, and then you mount the drive) but i loved it. it transfered very easily. I was actually able to port over my itunes play lists and copy my old iphone playlist to my phone.
Ok, so i got my captivate and doubletwist on my mac and for the life of me my playlists in itunes will not show up on the phone. Only the songs show up is there a way to get the playlists in itunes to show up on the phone?
the playlists are in my phone. it is an m3u file, right?
other than that, i have no clue. I really don't have a use for play lists, I only put what songs I want in my playlist and sync it.
yes they are set as m3u and ive placed them in several locations on the phones memory but they will not show up on the phone its self only way i can get a playlist on there is to create one from the phone and thats kinda lame

Any linux (ubuntu) users with success?

Hi again guys!
Ever since the ATT update usb connecting to the phone in ubuntu is sporadic and unreliable. I can usually get my photos off of it. Sometime I can even get into a non-root basic filesystem as well
However this isn't my main problem. I want to root the phone and install custom ROM's etc... Tried the VMware and a version of windows and installed the samsung drivers to XP but have trouble (again) with the usb and VMware.
Any help would be appreciated.
Additionally I'm pretty pissed off about the update thing. I don't care about tethering per se but that underhanded **** is why I dumped microsoft in the first place. I'll dump ATT too and spend my money elsewhere.
maskvp said:
Hi again guys!
Ever since the ATT update usb connecting to the phone in ubuntu is sporadic and unreliable. I can usually get my photos off of it. Sometime I can even get into a non-root basic filesystem as well
However this isn't my main problem. I want to root the phone and install custom ROM's etc... Tried the VMware and a version of windows and installed the samsung drivers to XP but have trouble (again) with the usb and VMware.
Any help would be appreciated.
Additionally I'm pretty pissed off about the update thing. I don't care about tethering per se but that underhanded **** is why I dumped microsoft in the first place. I'll dump ATT too and spend my money elsewhere.
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Linux user here. I haven't had the problems you describe. I have lately been using ES File Explorer to copy to and from a shared folder on my desktop. avoiding the USB for file transfers all together. when I do connect via USB I usually use ' adb push' and 'adb pull' to move files around.
To Root your phone there is an 'update.zip' method that I used (no computer needed)
There is also a tool called ClockworkMod Recovery that you can use to install custom rom's and create nandroid backups. (no computer needed)
And finally if you manage to screw up and can not boot, you can use Heimdall on linux like you would use Odin on Windows.
enjoy your phone...
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Thank-you so much!!!
I was thinking about exactly what you wrote. Why not do it the linux way? Admittedly my skills are weak.
Had a little trouble with the update.zip but went to the wiki (again) and the info on how to do it from the phone was there. BTW the wiki has improved since last week.
Rooted phone and installed Titanium Backup and Clockwork Recovery. In my excitement I deleted all the ATT bloatware before backing them up and the ROM. Oh well... Too bad.
Now I just feel great about my phone. Needs some customization but no hurry. Only thing was that TB prompted me to go to settings/applications/ and tick "unknown sources". Doesn't exist.
Thanks again! If you have anymore nuggets of info...?
linux newb here but i try
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the phone can mount to a vm in dowload mode for use with odin or in kies mtp mode as long as debugging is off, otherwise it likes to mount to the host pc as a drive, i dont know a work around but you can make the phone a shared folder with the vm client so you can see the files in the vm, it'll be seen as a network location in that case.
it can mount as a drive in linux but you need to select to mount from the phone. i was having problems with it in eclair in windows and didnt try it in linux but froyo is working great. in eclair it may help to try with debugging on then you can mount from the notification bar.
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Rooted phone and installed Titanium Backup and Clockwork Recovery. In my excitement I deleted all the ATT bloatware before backing them up and the ROM. Oh well... Too bad.
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I did that also...
maskvp said:
Now I just feel great about my phone. Needs some customization but no hurry. Only thing was that TB prompted me to go to settings/applications/ and tick "unknown sources". Doesn't exist.
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To enable side loading(unknown sources). I used method 5 from this post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=738376
and here is a link to my comments on the method later in the thread regarding some punctuation corrections.
This method uses adb from the SDK to pull the settings.db file off and edit it using sqlite3 before pushing it back on.
I believe you can edit the file directly on your phone once you have root and install a terminal app from the marketplace.
The above forum post is also in the wiki you referenced previously. basically you want to look for methods to "enable side loading"
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I'm using Ubuntu and have had no problems. Rooted and removed market restrictions without a hitch.
In progress upgrading to 10.10 64bit. Will see, but right now my machine sees my phone but it won't mount. Though I haven't tried to force it.
maskvp said:
In progress upgrading to 10.10 64bit. Will see, but right now my machine sees my phone but it won't mount. Though I haven't tried to force it.
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On the phone I leave my usb settings set to ask on connection. And then chose 'mass storage' when it asks. It then mounts /sdcard as an external drive. (make sure you haven't left usb debuging on)
pietro_spina said:
On the phone I leave my usb settings set to ask on connection. And then chose 'mass storage' when it asks. It then mounts /sdcard as an external drive. (make sure you haven't left usb debuging on)
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Oh I've tried it all-wichaways! That hasn't worked either. The card(s) are seen but no longer mount like they used to. When I choose media player I get this message on the phone: PC connection only available in idle screen. Close all running applications. I think something may be corrupted on the phone.
Before I start flashing anything I'm going to give 10.10 a go. Ubuntu specifies that 10.10 plays nice with Android. Unfortunately, I'm having trouble with my startup disks and have wasted three of them on three different downloads. Won't fully boot. Unfortunately, I've had this experience before with other releases, and it almost always was something being wrong with the .iso that was downloaded. Even tried a usb startup and same experience.
Woes. PITA!
maskvp said:
I've had this experience before with other releases, and it almost always was something being wrong with the .iso that was downloaded. Even tried a usb startup and same experience.
Woes. PITA!
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Make sure you burn your disks at a slow speed. Like 4x. Also try downloading over a stable wired connection. Use the md5 tool to check your download and your burn. If you can figure out when it is getting corrupt you have a fighting chance.
Reporting back. Finally got 10.10 to boot from a usb flashdrive by disabling the BootParameters. I guess 10.10 is so cutting edge my 2.5 yo toshiba can't boot it easily.
Reinstalled 10.04 without a hitch and since I didn't format my /home still kept everything. But I tried connecting by usb before any updates. No worky. And not after the 256M of updates either.
It's the phone I'm sure. Not really keen on flashing the ROM yet just to fix this. Recollection is that Samsung didn't put a good effort into this part of the phone. But I think again..
Why not eschew the usb for file transfers? I've got Bluetooth and wifi right here. Who needs clunky old usb? Adhoc network?
Ideas? Wifi would be easiest since my laptop doesn't have Bluetooth.
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Ideas? Wifi would be easiest since my laptop doesn't have Bluetooth.
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I think I mentioned in an earlier post that I use an app called ES File Explorer (free in the market) to navagate to a shared folder on my desktop.
My (samba) shared folder has no restrictions and works well. Only issue is I have to fix ownership and permissions on things copied over to the computer from the phone. If you choose to password protect yours let me know how that works out for you.
pietro_spina said:
I think I mentioned in an earlier post that I use an app called ES File Explorer (free in the market) to navagate to a shared folder on my desktop.
My (samba) shared folder has no restrictions and works well. Only issue is I have to fix ownership and permissions on things copied over to the computer from the phone. If you choose to password protect yours let me know how that works out for you.
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OK thanks. I'm going to investigate this. I take it ESFE works over the 3g connection as long as the host (my laptop) is connected to the internet?
maskvp said:
OK thanks. I'm going to investigate this. I take it ESFE works over the 3g connection as long as the host (my laptop) is connected to the internet?
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It supports FTP for sure. I'm no security expert but I doubt its a good idea to share a samba share over the internet.
If you want remote access to you desktop there are secure methods for that. The method I would choose would depend on my desire/need for a remote connection.
If I just want to access my shared folder I would probably set up a VPN connection and then use ES FileExplorer.
To fully control the computer, use VNC or other "remote desktop" application.
Been reading up on Samba. It is the linux way lol. Also, I went and got a Bluetooth micro-adapter. Installed drivers from the repository.
Transferred some pics and music back and forth. All GUI based. Worked first time. I'm still this side of the learning curve but my base needs are met.
The Bluetooth works great but I'd like to learn a bit more about the wifi. Seems to me one should be able to move files with a VPN via the wireless adapters and no router. I just lack the knowledge and skill to do it.
But thanks for reminding me about the ES FileExplorer! As far as the permissions in Ubuntu for the shared folder I just checked the box under right-click- sharing options allow others to create and delete files from this folder. I think that works.

Questions about the The USB Mass Storage Hack

I use my HD2 to bring files to and from work. I really want a WP7 but I wanted to make sure I could still utilize it this way. I saw that Microsoft and PocketNow do not recommend using the registry hack that allows the USB Mass Storage mode on your PC, but I wanted to find out a little more info about it. All references to the USB Mass Storage registry hack talk about being able to move your Music, Videos, etc., but none say whether or not you can move other files types and how the Zune PC software reacts to those unexpected file types.
So before I go and buy a device that I can't use how I need to, I have a few questions for someone who has a WP7 that could test it out for me. My questions are:
1. My work PC does not have (and will not allow me to install) Zune software on it. Will this hack work on a PC that does not have the Zune PC software?
2. Can you put any type of file onto the storage device, meaning not just Zune recognized media files? If so, what happens to those files the next time you sync with the Zune PC software?
No and no.
It is not Mass storage and Zune must be on the pc.
Check this post out. The thing I have to warn you about is that you will still need Zune to be installed as it most likely loads most of the drivers and automated installation necessary for your phone to be recognized by your machine. This hack simply lets you view your phone as more than a sync-able Zune device.
agreed with vetvito. i think the best thing to do is merely just to buy a usb stick. they're reasonably cheap and tend to be attachable to keys. if not that, a portable harddrive.
vetvito said:
No and no.
It is not Mass storage and Zune must be on the pc.
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I know it is not a Mass Storage device, but the registry hack enables it to be. I am asking if you could put a non-media file on the phone using a PC, then pick it back up on a different PC.
denizen08 said:
Check this post out.
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This just references the same registry hack that ny original post references.
The Gate Keeper said:
agreed with vetvito. i think the best thing to do is merely just to buy a usb stick. they're reasonably cheap and tend to be attachable to keys. if not that, a portable harddrive.
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I own a USB drive. That is not the solution I am looking for. I do not want to carry around two devices.
vetvito said:
No and no.
It is not Mass storage and Zune must be on the pc.
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Actually it's no and yes.
Zune must be installed, but you can use the hack to transport on the phone any files you want. Zune will simply ignore files that are not in the expected directories or which it doesn't understand.
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Actually it's no and yes.
Zune must be installed, but you can use the hack to transport on the phone any files you want. Zune will simply ignore files that are not in the expected directories or which it doesn't understand.
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Okay so I'm halfway there. What does Zune PC software provide that enables the ability to use Mass Storage? Is there a way to bypass it? Possibly some registry entries and/or drivers?
“Windows Phone is not a mass storage device. It’s a Zune device. The data on the phone must be consistent, and [the system] needs to be able to identify items in storage. We don’t want the user to have to do that stuff manually. Yes, some may want to. But we wanted a synchronization system that was simple and easy and does metadata mappings automatically.” -Microsoft corporate vice president Joe Belfiore
guys why you want to buy a $500 DEVICE AS A usb STICK. WHEN A usb stick is $50/
WP7 os is working fine without hanging, reboots... why you guy want to hack this and hack that.. why cant u enjoy the smooth flow and the new OS for a while...
i am so sorry but i cant get it why ppl want to mess it up for them selfs... and i am very sure if any thing happens after there hackings they will blame microsoft for it...
i cant do alot of things now with my HD7 i used to do with my WM6.5, but there are so many things WM6.5 could not do for me too.. i am very happy with my WP7 OS and i will not want to change it in any way.. not even cut and paste as i dont need it..
guys why you want to buy a $500 DEVICE AS A usb STICK. WHEN A usb stick is $50/
WP7 os is working fine without hanging, reboots... why you guy want to hack this and hack that.. why cant u enjoy the smooth flow and the new OS for a while...
i am so sorry but i cant get it why ppl want to mess it up for them selfs... and i am very sure if any thing happens after there hackings they will blame microsoft for it...
i cant do alot of things now with my HD7 i used to do with my WM6.5, but there are so many things WM6.5 could not do for me too.. i am very happy with my WP7 OS and i will not want to change it in any way.. not even cut and paste as i dont need it..
vetvito said:
“Windows Phone is not a mass storage device. It’s a Zune device. The data on the phone must be consistent, and [the system] needs to be able to identify items in storage. We don’t want the user to have to do that stuff manually. Yes, some may want to. But we wanted a synchronization system that was simple and easy and does metadata mappings automatically.” -Microsoft corporate vice president Joe Belfiore
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Most everyone here at XDA who is interested in WP7 has already read that quote from Microsoft. You keep saying it's not a mass storage device... I know that. There is a Windows registry edit that allow the phone to become mass storage which has direct access to the media folders in the phone.
truffle1234 said:
guys why you want to buy a $500 DEVICE AS A usb STICK. WHEN A usb stick is $50/
WP7 os is working fine without hanging, reboots... why you guy want to hack this and hack that.. why cant u enjoy the smooth flow and the new OS for a while...
i am so sorry but i cant get it why ppl want to mess it up for them selfs... and i am very sure if any thing happens after there hackings they will blame microsoft for it...
i cant do alot of things now with my HD7 i used to do with my WM6.5, but there are so many things WM6.5 could not do for me too.. i am very happy with my WP7 OS and i will not want to change it in any way.. not even cut and paste as i dont need it..
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The point you're missing is that I would like to have a WP7 device... and I don't want to have to carry around an extra piece of hardware in order to move files to and from work. My work blocks Skydrive so using the cloud is not a viable solution for me. I can't keep emailing files to and from my phone in order to get files to and from it.
I can't get a WP7 until I can figure out how to give me access to use it as Mass Storage. I don't want to put files on there and then use them in WP7... I just need a way to transport files from one computer to another without using the cloud.
Saying, "just get a flash drive" is not a solution. And by the way, I'm going to get 2 for 1 on contract with T-Mobile and it'll be $199.99 for two phones. It will not cost me $500.
you don't wanna carry around two devices, yet you will carry around one device and a cable which takes probably more space than the usb drive...
reflect yourself and buy the damn device, if you ask me.
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Most everyone here at XDA who is interested in WP7 has already read that quote from Microsoft. You keep saying it's not a mass storage device... I know that. There is a Windows registry edit that allow the phone to become mass storage which has direct access to the media folders in the phone.
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Mass Storage implies storing any type of file, that is not safe on WP7, and thus why its not allowed. This mode you are referring to is only for media files, and no it is not allowing the phone to become mass storage. You are making the PC think a mass storage device is connected.
Why do the reg trick if you need Zune, that defeats the purpose.
001mic said:
you don't wanna carry around two devices, yet you will carry around one device and a cable which takes probably more space than the usb drive...
reflect yourself and buy the damn device, if you ask me.
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Wow. Just... wow. Ever heard of owning more than one USB cable? Don't know about you but I'm willing to spend $3.00 to make this not a problem.
vetvito said:
Mass Storage implies storing any type of file, that is not safe on WP7, and thus why its not allowed. This mode you are referring to is only for media files, and no it is not allowing the phone to become mass storage. You are making the PC think a mass storage device is connected.
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This is why I am asking the question. I want to find out if it's safe, what the implications are, etc. Can you tell me why it's not safe?
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Why do the reg trick if you need Zune, that defeats the purpose.
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Precisely why I asked what Zune does to the system to make Windows recognize it as Mass Storage, meaning what drivers and/or registry edits does it perform to get it to see the device as storage. Since I can't install Zune at work, I'd like to know if it's possible to get it to do it with just some driver patches and registry edits.
I still don't get it. I have a micro sd usb stick that is about the size of a pencil eraser. Why is this hard to carry?
But, no, right now, there is no way to use a wp7 device as a mass storage device without the help of zune installation, so I guess you are stuck on 6.5
Guys, why are you offensive again?
He asks about something, and you're only answer is "but why do you want it?"
Is it the only thing you can say?
The "safe" argument is pretty bull****, it's basically MS which wants you to use MS software and stuff, rather than just be completely free.
There's no "danger". It's rather a strategy more than anything else.
There was never any "unsafe" file which would do any harm to my device.
And about a device = mass storage:
Mass storage has many great implications, and this is the reason to have it.
Mass deleting/applying files of different types PC - Device.
Drag and drop is the best way to do it.
Today if I buy a new phone and want to simply transfer all data to this one from my previous one, I SIMPLY put it there. Done.
Instead, Zune will deal with your media but documents NO, you have to download them from Skydrive, where you UPLOADED them before. And once you get another WP7 device you download them AGAIN.
So mass storage is NOT about replacing memory stick.
It's about simple way of transferring data.
That is so simple. Why don't you get it?
001mic said:
you don't wanna carry around two devices, yet you will carry around one device and a cable which takes probably more space than the usb drive...
reflect yourself and buy the damn device, if you ask me.
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I'm with this guy, just get the USB drive. Yea it's more convenient, but there nothing like a cheap USB stick. I have one my keychain and never notice it and don't seem to understand the problem you have about not wanting two devices. Plus, using a USB stick is more professional than plugging a cable to the computer from the phone.
-Just my opinion
doministry said:
Guys, why are you offensive again?
He asks about something, and you're only answer is "but why do you want it?"
Is it the only thing you can say?
The "safe" argument is pretty bull****, it's basically MS which wants you to use MS software and stuff, rather than just be completely free.
There's no "danger". It's rather a strategy more than anything else.
There was never any "unsafe" file which would do any harm to my device.
And about a device = mass storage:
Mass storage has many great implications, and this is the reason to have it.
Mass deleting/applying files of different types PC - Device.
Drag and drop is the best way to do it.
Today if I buy a new phone and want to simply transfer all data to this one from my previous one, I SIMPLY put it there. Done.
Instead, Zune will deal with your media but documents NO, you have to download them from Skydrive, where you UPLOADED them before. And once you get another WP7 device you download them AGAIN.
So mass storage is NOT about replacing memory stick.
It's about simple way of transferring data.
That is so simple. Why don't you get it?
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In this case tough, he just wants it for the memory stick replacement.
I'm right with you that, if it were up to me to choose, I would probably implement it, but to not buy the device because you have to carry around the stick - this I can not understand.
That's of course just my opinion. Maybe he should buy a Android than.
I don't see why anyone would want to use a WP7 phone to transfer files instead of using a tiny USB stick on your keychain. For a start, you would have to sacrifice a bunch of space on your phone so you have room for the files you want to transport. With plenty of people moaning about the lack of space on WP7 phones, why would you want to keep Gigabytes of storage unused just in case you want to move some files around? It makes no sense.
You should be filling your phone up with media, games etc. USE THE SPACE!
I've had a 32GB USB memory stick hanging off my keychain for a while now and it's no bother at all. I can just plug it into the work PC and hey presto I can copy files around to my heart's content. Why on Earth would I want to bother with a bloody great USB cable? What a pain!
This obsession with using a WP7 phone as a memory stick is absolutely baffling! I get the impression it's a case of "I wanna do it 'cos I can" which isn't really a reason at all, is it?
And saying you can't be bothered to "carry two devices" is ridiculous - your choice is;
A) Carry your WP7 phone and a tiny keyfob on your house keys
B) Carry your WP7 phone and a bloody great USB cable
And you're saying choice A is more hassle? Eh?!
Incidentally I have several USB keyfobs lying around doing nothing - let me have your address and I'll bung you one in the post. They were all sent to me by mates who used them to send me wedding photos.

[Q] Mass Storage

Ok now I am about smart enough to turn my gtab on so lets start with no pretenses.
I bought the gtab because I used to use my blackberry storm as a mass storage/emailing device that my clients and customers could send me files I would use docs to go on them and then send them back out. When I was at my computer not wanting 2 sets of files I would use the bb as my mass storage seems simple worked great. Well the it department of my company took over the phone service and shut off the mass storage along in internet and well its a brick now that gets email and dials hone numbers.
I bout the gtab because I wanted to get there again. I plug the gtab in and i can see the 16gb of internal storage and can access it BUT the micro sd I can not. I know this is long winded but can anyone help me? I know I read these things and I just dont get it you say just use vegan well to me I like meet is all i can say I just do not know what your talking about! I am reading that I should "root" it? but it works for me (minus this) with out worrying about crashing and putting new patches on and this and that I tried it with a blackjack and a fuse from At&t I do not have the time i used to have when I was writing batch files in dos! The tech train has passed me by.
lil97jeeptjj said:
Ok now I am about smart enough to turn my gtab on so lets start with no pretenses.
I bought the gtab because I used to use my blackberry storm as a mass storage/emailing device that my clients and customers could send me files I would use docs to go on them and then send them back out. When I was at my computer not wanting 2 sets of files I would use the bb as my mass storage seems simple worked great. Well the it department of my company took over the phone service and shut off the mass storage along in internet and well its a brick now that gets email and dials hone numbers.
I bout the gtab because I wanted to get there again. I plug the gtab in and i can see the 16gb of internal storage and can access it BUT the micro sd I can not. I know this is long winded but can anyone help me? I know I read these things and I just dont get it you say just use vegan well to me I like meet is all i can say I just do not know what your talking about! I am reading that I should "root" it? but it works for me (minus this) with out worrying about crashing and putting new patches on and this and that I tried it with a blackjack and a fuse from At&t I do not have the time i used to have when I was writing batch files in dos! The tech train has passed me by.
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You do know that it doesn't come with a micro SD card, right?
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You do know that it doesn't come with a micro SD card, right?
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Yes I took the 16gb out of the bb and put it into the gtab. i can open all my files on the tab using the file explorer thing i figured out how to find the folder rather then it being a "drive"
lil97jeeptjj said:
Yes I took the 16gb out of the bb and put it into the gtab. i can open all my files on the tab using the file explorer thing i figured out how to find the folder rather then it being a "drive"
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I think you were originally asking if you'd be able to see the external microsd card from your pc over usb? I think you can't at least not w stock TNT, not yet. I'm not sure if any of the other ROMs do either.
As an alternative, ESFileExplorer can see Windows and smb/samba shares over network, so you can move files to/from /sdcard2 that way.
HTH...
Jim
jimcpl said:
I think you were originally asking if you'd be able to see the external microsd card from your pc over usb? I think you can't at least not w stock TNT, not yet. I'm not sure if any of the other ROMs do either.
As an alternative, ESFileExplorer can see Windows and smb/samba shares over network, so you can move files to/from /sdcard2 that way.
HTH...
Jim
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Thanks Jim that is what i was asking...while i dont understand alot of what you said i think the gist is that i would have to use my computer to store the files and then send them to the gtab from the computer not be able to use the gtab as a thumbdrive with the bonus of emailing...i hope that someone will figure this out soon! I want to buy the case with a keyboard and dump the laptop traveling every week it would be great to only carry my gtab! then plug into any computer hotel/client/contractor any and have a full comp if i need it.
lil97jeeptjj said:
Thanks Jim that is what i was asking...while i dont understand alot of what you said i think the gist is that i would have to use my computer to store the files and then send them to the gtab from the computer not be able to use the gtab as a thumbdrive with the bonus of emailing...i hope that someone will figure this out soon! I want to buy the case with a keyboard and dump the laptop traveling every week it would be great to only carry my gtab! then plug into any computer hotel/client/contractor any and have a full comp if i need it.
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No. What I was suggesting is kind of the reverse of what you said.
Try this:
- on a windows machine share one of the drives
- on gtab, start es file explorer
- on upper right, press local button, and select LAN
- you get empty page
- press menu
- press New--> Server
- enter hostname or ip, etc
-after that press on icon for server
You would see the drive you shared earlier. Now you can move files from you gtab to the shared drive or from the shared drive to you gtab, but you have to do it by operating the gtab.
Jim
jimcpl said:
No. What I was suggesting is kind of the reverse of what you said.
Try this:
- on a windows machine share one of the drives
- on gtab, start es file explorer
- on upper right, press local button, and select LAN
- you get empty page
- press menu
- press New--> Server
- enter hostname or ip, etc
-after that press on icon for server
You would see the drive you shared earlier. Now you can move files from you gtab to the shared drive or from the shared drive to you gtab, but you have to do it by operating the gtab.
Jim
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Thanks again Jim but it seems with this method I would have to send the file to my comp open it with say word or excel and edit it and send it back to Gtab. I will eventually screw this up lol. AND I still have to carry my laptop or netbook. what about putting a thumbdrive on the gtab would that work? I dont even have one to try tonight. I would then I guess be able to use that on all computers would I be able to get a file from my webmail sever and download it direct to the thumbdrive? I really appreciate the help here.
lil97jeeptjj said:
Thanks again Jim but it seems with this method I would have to send the file to my comp open it with say word or excel and edit it and send it back to Gtab. I will eventually screw this up lol. AND I still have to carry my laptop or netbook. what about putting a thumbdrive on the gtab would that work? I dont even have one to try tonight. I would then I guess be able to use that on all computers would I be able to get a file from my webmail sever and download it direct to the thumbdrive? I really appreciate the help here.
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Yes, flash or even USB harddrives work, but only FAT32, and have to be only 1 partition (think).
It'll show up as /usbdisk on gtab.
Jim
P.s. there are Apps in market that can view and/or edit office docs, spreadsheets, and even ppts.
Jim
jimcpl said:
P.s. there are Apps in market that can view and/or edit office docs, spreadsheets, and even ppts.
Jim
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I dont have market because i havent "rooted" it i think thats what i would have to do BUT i do have docs to go from datav so I can edit them.
Currently when connected to your PC, you can only access the internal storage. The G Tab has 16gb of internal storage, why not use that for storage? If you want to put it into your microsd you could always use USB microsd card adapter. Current software does not mount the microsd but hopefully this can be fixed in a software update.
You can always transfer from internal storage to microsd from within the tablet also using ES File Explorer.
japhule said:
Currently when connected to your PC, you can only access the internal storage. The G Tab has 16gb of internal storage, why not use that for storage? If you want to put it into your microsd you could always use USB microsd card adapter. Current software does not mount the microsd but hopefully this can be fixed in a software update.
You can always transfer from internal storage to microsd from within the tablet also using ES File Explorer.
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And sometimes we miss the forest for the trees....I dont know how I missed that lol.
However does this effect performance at all if say I fill up 14gb with documents and scans?

[XOOM 2] Xoom 2 Software Frustration

Connected the Xoom 2, to a windows 7 machine.
Insists on letting installing 'Motocast' which I let it...what a complete pile of shi*.
I want to 'sync' a 700MB .avi video, over usb cable, to the device...estimated time? 30 minutes!!! I swear this complete toss of software is insisting to re-encode the entire file to some bullsh*t format of their choice. Is there an option to turn this off and transfer it natively?
Secondly, thankfully, it also installs native 'portable' device drivers, allowing Windows 7 file explorer to browse the device. Great, so I copy the same .avi file and paste it to the device...'Do you want to copy xyz.avi? Your device might not be able to play this file' I am prompted...'yes' I click. Just as it finishes copying (after about 4 minutes...much better) it bombs out, notifying me that because the device cannot play this file it is cancelling the transfer...wtf?!?!
The only interim solution i've found is renaming the extension '.avi' to something like '.proprietrysoftwarecansuckmyballs', copying it, then renaming it back to '.avi' once transfer has completed solves this.
So can anyone offer any 'clean' solutions to my file transfer woes? If theres no improvement, this device will be getting returned next week, which is a shame as the tablet is a great bit of kit, its just a shame the software blows.
Look for "Wi-Fi File Explorer" in the market.
This looks like it only transfers over wifi?
I need to transfer over usb cable.
Had this problem myself, looks like it doesn't come with the drivers. After a bit of searching, I found that the standard driver package works:
http://www.motorola.com/staticfiles...al_Drivers/MotoHelper_2.0.53_Driver_5.2.0.exe
Installed that, unplug the USB cable and put it back in - should work fine!
tr00st said:
Had this problem myself, looks like it doesn't come with the drivers. After a bit of searching, I found that the standard driver package works:
http://www.motorola.com/staticfiles...al_Drivers/MotoHelper_2.0.53_Driver_5.2.0.exe
Installed that, unplug the USB cable and put it back in - should work fine!
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Hey thanks man, that worked a treat.
Just for clarification, does you still prompt you that the device may not support playback of the file, but then successfully transfer it (whereby it would previously error at the last second)?
No idea - haven't had that particular part of the issue myself - the main thing I had was the slowness...
I am a linux user ... i will only have the option to upload files via wifi network ?
I have a Xoom 2 ME and the only way to copy a large movie file to the device was adb.
adb push foo.txt /sdcard/foo.txt
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That's the only usb-way i come up with. I'am on snow leopard and Google's Android File Copy tool does not work.
elster said:
I have a Xoom 2 ME and the only way to copy a large movie file to the device was adb.
That's the only usb-way i come up with. I'am on snow leopard and Google's Android File Copy tool does not work.
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I guess the same way will work to linux too . Xoom2 has only one partition on the disk ? that the reason not to be able to mount it as a normal usb ? If you root the device is the anyway to great a small 2 Gb for ex partition to use it for easy transfer ?
Off topic about xoom 2 ME . How good the screen and and the battery life are ?
Useless tablet ?
In fact it's worst!
As a Linux User I hoped being able to use MTP... But I tried mtpfs and mtp-tools on several distributions without any luck.
But what is worse is that FTP server applications won't work too! I tried SwiFTP, FTPServer, and some other: the servers are not reachable. It appears that not even a single ping can reach the tablet. I think Motorala have put some kind of firewall in it (maybe it has something to do with the netflix HD certification?).
For me this tablet is actually useless. If I can't find a way to transfer some files on it without using MotoCast today or tomorrow, I will bring it back to the supplier...
OldBeurt said:
In fact it's worst!
As a Linux User I hoped being able to use MTP... But I tried mtpfs and mtp-tools on several distributions without any luck.
But what is worse is that FTP server applications won't work too! I tried SwiFTP, FTPServer, and some other: the servers are not reachable. It appears that not even a single ping can reach the tablet. I think Motorala have put some kind of firewall in it (maybe it has something to do with the netflix HD certification?).
For me this tablet is actually useless. If I can't find a way to transfer some files on it without using MotoCast today or tomorrow, I will bring it back to the supplier...
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You probably hit it on the head about the Netflix certification. I would think about returning it, man.
a solution ?
Thanks to a French forum (frandroid, in the Xoom 2 topic... sorry I can't send links here), I tested a solution to the transfer problem: It is possible to use (on the computer) a server to share the files such as a samba server.
It works fine. But it's not as easy to browse, select, copy and paste file with explorers on the tablet than it is on computers (several windows, keyboard shortcuts such as Ctrl-c/v, and so on).
But it's now possible to exchange files with the Xoom 2ME without going through a cloud or using Windows/motoCast.
mdcykkk9 said:
Off topic about xoom 2 ME . How good the screen and and the battery life are ?
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Sorry for answering so late.
The screen is quite good.
The battery life is terrible compared to my ipad2. Charging needs a lot of time and is very slow. I guess it's because of mini usb only.
Currently i'am using the device as a Kindle Fire replacement, because off the lightweight (KF is heavier and bulky). The books i usually read have more weight than the device itself.
I like it for that.
But i may not be a good adviser because my device is a prototype. It is not smooth and the speakers are terrible.
I think 8,2" is the perfect size for me. The weight is so much better than any other tablet i had.
OldBeurt said:
In fact it's worst!
As a Linux User I hoped being able to use MTP... But I tried mtpfs and mtp-tools on several distributions without any luck.
But what is worse is that FTP server applications won't work too! I tried SwiFTP, FTPServer, and some other: the servers are not reachable. It appears that not even a single ping can reach the tablet. I think Motorala have put some kind of firewall in it (maybe it has something to do with the netflix HD certification?).
For me this tablet is actually useless. If I can't find a way to transfer some files on it without using MotoCast today or tomorrow, I will bring it back to the supplier...
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Try using a terminal on the Xoom 2 and ping the computer you're trying to connect to, while pinging your Xoom 2 from that computer at the same time. It's like you have to force them to see each other before they can start connecting in future.
I used fileexpert to see and download files with smb shared folder on Ubuntu Linux without a problem.
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