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Do you like Manilla2D/3D or not

Most recent cooked ROM's come with Manilla2D, and now, thanks to the P3D team even with Manilla3D. I personally am not a fan of Manilla, for a number of reasons, and I would like your opinion. So vote please!
I'm hoping for future ROM's without Manilla preinstalled. For the following reasons:
Manilla only shows 1 upcoming appointment. That's not enough overview for me. Furthermore you have to jump through hoops to have it directly open your favorite PIM manager's calendar like Pocket Informant
When wanting to call someone while driving a car, the Cube fits best. I can almost call my wife without looking at the screen once. Scrolling to the persons-tab in Manilla takes a lot of precision and attention.
I use the sound profiles tab in HTC Home Plugin a lot, putting my device on silent or vibrating with one click. I haven't found that funtionality in Manilla
I lock my device a lot, preventing buttons from being pushed in my pocket. Device Lock could be on the programs tab in Manilla (with all my other favorite progs). But then again, it is hard to reach that tab accurately, as mentioned earlier for the persons tab
I really must admit Manilla looks way better than the standard Today screen and it's nice to have something new to look at, but I'm not willing to give up functionality for that.
No disrespect is meant to people who spend their time on cooking ROM's and sharing them with others. I really appreciate everything. I'm just hoping I won't be forced to use Manilla if I would like to use a newer/faster ROM in the future.

Hi deechte
I think that this voting not necessary because both of TouchFlo 2D & 3D will dead when the new version of ThrottleLauncher 0.9.5 will release after a few days and I think that all cooker will add it or at lest release the rom without TouchFlo
follow up this thread to see what will be ThrottleLauncher 0.9.5
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=436445
or watch this video
http://www.throttlelauncher.com/portal/the-news/1-latest-news/85-095preview
thx

I really dislike the direction that Manilla 2D/3D takes us. I looks stunning, but like you stated its terrible for us drivers. There is no way to use the phone in landscape with Manilla and it requires a lot of involvement to get where you want to be. HTC Home was elegant, simple point and click, and it worked in landscape also!

secoseco said:
follow up this thread to see what will be ThrottleLauncher 0.9.5
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=436445
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Thanks for that information. TL sure looks nice, and I see profiles passing by in that clip. However, it looks as complicated as Manilla to scroll to the tab you want, which indeed takes to much involvement while driving. But we'll see how it really works when it's released.
Btw, just another reason to have a clean ROM, so you can choose for HHP, Manilla or TL yourself.

I agree with deechte. If the ROM comes "clean" every user can install what's best for him/her (in example, I'm used to SPB mobile shell)

deechte said:
it looks as complicated as Manilla to scroll to the tab you want, which indeed takes to much involvement while driving.
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at least you will get more development, support and upgrade not "take it or leave it"
deechte said:
Btw, just another reason to have a clean ROM, so you can choose for HHP, Manilla or TL yourself.
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I partially agree with you because TouchFlo 2D & 3D needs more tweaks to work perfect which normal user can't do it by self

Ultimately, what I would love would be a custom version of Manilla (or even Throttle launcher) that would enable 2D/3D mode in portrait and then HTC Home (or whatever plug-in you prefer) in landscape.

I really like Manilla2D, I wanted 3D but it didn't work and I had to hard reset my phone by flashing a new (but updated at the same time) ROM to get it to work again.
I would love Manilla2D on any ROMs I get from now on.

secoseco said:
I partially agree with you because TouchFlo 2D & 3D needs more tweaks to work perfect which normal user can't do it by self
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You mean that it works better when it's cooked in the ROM?
Well, I don't mind if it's present, if I could just disable it and enable Htc Home.

deechte said:
You mean that it works better when it's cooked in the ROM?
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yes, that is what I meant
deechte said:
Well, I don't mind if it's present, if I could just disable it and enable Htc Home.
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sure you can disable it from Today screen and working as it not present at all in rom, and if you decide that you will not using it at all. you can delete or backup all Manila graphic picture from windows directory to free space in internal storage

SPB Mobile shell 2 users. Worth to upgrade to 3?

as above..
is it really much cooler than SPB MS 2?

i have looked at MS3 and won't be upgrading. Currently running one of the many customised version of MS2 and for me it has everything i need. Yes the cube thing looks swish but useability seems to be coming first for me.

I'm upgrading because it replaces the today screen. On the "lifestyle" home screen, I have the clock, calendar, and frequently used programs. I have the other 2 pages showing the rest of my programs. I find I never have to leave it. The one thing that makes it worthwhile for me is I can see the notification icons on the top bar. That was a major flaw in MS2.

deedee said:
i have looked at MS3 and won't be upgrading. Currently running one of the many customised version of MS2 and for me it has everything i need. Yes the cube thing looks swish but useability seems to be coming first for me.
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I share your view completely. MS2 has everything I need and is more usable than MS3.

well i have it and i think its better than spb mobile 2.0 but atm i still expierence serval bugs so i would wait a while. Why don't you download the trial and try it?
Kinda depends on what you need to do with your phone tbh. Spb 3.0 is in some way a wm replacer

drowe said:
I'm upgrading because it replaces the today screen. On the "lifestyle" home screen, I have the clock, calendar, and frequently used programs. I have the other 2 pages showing the rest of my programs. I find I never have to leave it. The one thing that makes it worthwhile for me is I can see the notification icons on the top bar. That was a major flaw in MS2.
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i'm with ya on this one, ive tried every homescreen and ui ive come across in the last two years on my p4000 (titan) and this takes the cake. everything i need is on one of the first two pages in the lifestyle menu, and i rarely require more than a swipe and click to access anything i need. the one thing i will be watching for is a better media app, as the one provided is lackluster at best. if anyone comes across one please send me a message or link

Switchke said:
well i have it and i think its better than spb mobile 2.0 but atm i still expierence serval bugs so i would wait a while. Why don't you download the trial and try it?
Kinda depends on what you need to do with your phone tbh. Spb 3.0 is in some way a wm replacer
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As i said i am using a custom MS shell and have everything two/three swipes/clicks away already.
My main progs are on the front and the next batch are on the MRU page.

yes yes yes yes

My Today Screen is the best

Okay guys & gals,
Just thought I'd start a topic about our Today Screen.
I love a good launcher program (which I believe is simply what a today screen is). It took me a while to get to like WM6.5, but I do now. The disadvantage is that I still have to press my Start Menu for other apps... and for 64MB Uni's the disadvantage is only too obvious.
I hope you don't mind me quoting, but this is what started me thinking...
gewin said:
What I would like to do is set the programs screen ie the screen full of icons as the default when you start up the Universal. One less step and simpler for the end user.
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phezthie said:
home screen plus is what yu need, i guess....
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Yeah, oh for a simple Today Screen. I'm with you there.
Why do we have one method of accessing our apps on the Today screen, and yet another from the Start menu. (And for me a third when I want to choose a game to play).
I suppose nobody has come up with something that everyone agrees on!
Hence we have such platforms as Android, maybe.
As phezthie says, HomeScreen PlusPlus is a cool app. However, if you can't find a theme that someone has made that you like, you must be willing to write a script. Personally I love this app, but spend too much time tweaking my scripts! Ouch
Another one is ThrottleLauncher. A lovely graphic approach, but a bit heavy/slow and a few bugs. Very easy to set up, though... but perhaps more of an interest with 128MB devices and maybe a little restricted.
Anyone got a great Today Screen or Launcher they think others would like?
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Hi Jonny
Interesting thread indeed
I used for a long time HTC Home large VGA by pj07 and I was very satified as I had all I needed on that home screen.
Now I´m using titanium but I´m agree with your comments above.
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Cheers,

I use Titanium too and its going pretty well for my needs till now.This his a good idea.

Hello thank you for starting this thread,as i am obsessed lately with this subject. I tried EVERYTHING that i could find,and so far,on my 64 MB uni,i can say only that i managed to find NOTHING in my taste.
Throttle launcher is awesome but no way it can work on my device,buggy and extremely slow,same as Pointui Home 2, with the POINTSENSE suite 2.0.0.6 looks awesome but useless on my device. For everyone with a 128 MB device i would recommend it,there are many many interesting skins/themes and applets on the Pointui website http://www.pointui.com/
Also,i am waiting for a new or fixed version of Touch Shell Pro ,which looks promising also,has some nice skins too, version now is 1.1.0.17,but has too many issues still,on my UNI at least.
http://www.touch-shell.com/
Also i tried FEWidgets Ultimate,again nice idea but too slow on my UNI.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544874
There is now also this Sense UI Theme for FEWidgets Ultimate.
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-sense-ui-theme-for-fewidgets-ultimate.html
As for launchers,i tried plenty,most of them too slow ofc,the nicer ones
Easy Today Launcher is a nice today plugin,you can combine it with some others to make a nice today screen also :
http://www.loffactory.webs.com/
MyAction is a nice launcher you can pick up here versions 1.1 and new 2.0 :
http://www.8080.pl/
This one looks real nice but was way too slow on my 64 mb - Touchlaunch :
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-touchlaunch.html
And for last,the best thing i found to be part of my today screen,is a skin for marsware weather panel 2009 - here is the whole thing :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401781
When i get time i will put some more up,when i remember them,i really tried a lot of things out. And i really really wish that my UNI has 128 MB

I never looked back since getting SPB Mobile Shell 3.5, I think it's the best. In fact, once I got it, the ROM UI became irrelevant, I even have WM5 on one of my Unis in order to have the VC and not suffer much.

Complexity
Jonny
Thanks for starting this thread. I have also played with a number of the Today screen graphical setup programs, some are quite good. However, since upgrading to 6.5 I quite like the standard program screen that comes up when you select start.
My question is why do we need any of these today screen programs, when the icons and screen are already there. We really don't want to add any more complexity to the setup or anything else to use up precious memory.
I originally asked the question to see if there was just a way of bypassing the today screen altogether, so that the standard program screen came up by default.
Now thanks to you we have the collective minds thinking about it.

@gewin:
I actually got your idea. But couldn't find the function OS calls (@shell32.exe) when you hit on start menu.
Once we get then it is just the easy part....

I use SPB Pocket Plus, because it can handle other today plugins in different tabs. And it runs quickly on UNI64...

Thanks guys, this has been very informative. Especially to PalDragon for all the review... I'm going to give some of those a try. Cheers. What do others think?
MyAction - I found I didn't like. It looks ok if you use all the icons, otherwise you have half a screen full of blue +'s. I would prefer slide to screen, rather than use of a Prev/Next button. You also need to add all the apps yourself, it wasn't self-populating.
TouchLaunch - like. However only 1 item per line means a lot of scrolling, and the scrolling can be quite slow. Nice that you can make categories. Latest version here. Smooth (on my 128MB Uni)
EasyToday Launcher - @gewin, this is what you want! It's not self-populating, but I do like it. And as PalDragon pointed out, you can add other Today items with it, if you wish.

enigma1nz said:
I never looked back since getting SPB Mobile Shell 3.5, I think it's the best. In fact, once I got it, the ROM UI became irrelevant, I even have WM5 on one of my Unis in order to have the VC and not suffer much.
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i completely agree, its not free though but worth it...

Hi Jonny.. can you please attache some pics of your today screen if you haven't yet, I use HTC Home its got all i need even wheather, Messaging etc... But i wonder if its possible to add some applications to the wm6.5 on that cool up down slide. This made me stop using HTC Home but now i have some app's missing on my today.

my today screen is unintersting. I use WM6.5 'Ron Arad Orange' with CHome editor* for my apps (piccy1). I used to have weather plugin* but this seemed to make my GPS navigation freeze intermittently. I use QuickMenu* for my task switcher (piccy2) and iReflect icons* in my start menu (piccy3) with honeycomb start menu*. (Also, once used ATContacts widget*).
However I am still looking for a good 'app launcher' for games. I use fexploreext* set to 'Icon View' (see piccy4&5). Sadly fexploreext doesn't seem to work in WM6.5.1
I did once create a HomeScreen++ theme* for back when it was BatteryStatus, but haven't kept it up to date. It also had weather. The funny thing about weather widgets is that whenever I want to look at the forecast, I always want to update it ... so it seemed reasonable to stick with weather from an internet page! (perhaps because in UK weather is so changeable, I don't know!)
however, I am beginning to like SPB Mobile Shell (unsure how long the trial is for). What themes are people using? enigma1nz? phezthie?
FEWidgets and throttlelauncher seem similar, but a poor mans copy?
*if you want any of these files, just PM me.

spb mobile shell is really impressive and powerful (the latest is v3.5), ive been using ms v2 since tomal's 8.5. however, based from my experience, v3.5 is not advisable using tomal's wm6.5 roms (v9 & 10) due to slow response and occasional freeze. same with other wm6.5 cooked roms i tried, the reason why ram upgrade is imperative, at least for me, to enjoy the latest rom with latest spb.
off course, another solution i think is if our great uni rom chefs will always consider releasing vanilla of their great work...

UltimateLaunch
http://www.ultimatelaunch.de/index_en.html
Setup is a bit of a hassle (I've been messing around in Android, so a lot of Windows Mobile/Phone stuff seems more complex to customize), but if you're willing to put in the time, it's a rock solid-app and can customize to a T. It's also the least memory-hungry of what I've tried.
The only thing I don't like is that it doesn't accommodate rotation very well unless you count out pixels and just set it up so that in landscape it looks good even though the bottom of your screen is cut off.
I've tried Lakeridge (think Titanic, flashy, but *will* crash), ThrottleLauncher, Win6.5, SPB, SBSH. I keep coming back to this.

I used most of the GI app there and i liked WAD2. and i used with my custom theme when i was in wm 6.1, now with 6.5 due to memory issue i can not run it. so i'm using titanium with some customization.... see pic's below...

Hey Rajiv
Jane is so beautiful!!

Yes, very nice Jane, mate

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Hey Rajiv
Jane is so beautiful!!
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Yes, very nice Jane, mate
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Thanx a lot Guyz...

i envy you mate

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i envy you mate
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He he
common guys no comment on titanium ....

Benefits of WinMo 6.5?

I am a very satisfied user of my Verizon TP2 (stock rom). It is by far the best phone I've owned.
I was wondering, as I wait for Verizon to release WinMo 6.5, what improvements might I anticipate with this new version? Will there be anything earth shattering or significant?
I just didn't want to be checking the boards everyday, waiting for something that really isn't worth drooling over!
Thanks for your thoughts!

From my experience it benefit you by more eye candies and being exponentially slower. Ofcourse, it will use Sense 2.5 which has more graphic than 2.1. Such as the weather effect on over the entire Today screen.
The organization is strange, the icons are displayed in zigzag order which makes no sense and difficult to navigate. The one thing I like is in file explorer you can select multiple files at once. There are more specific things, but since it is slower and take up more space it is not more practical for me as I do not masturbate to my cellphone. Personally if I was to use 6.5, then I would get a custom rom that has 6.5.5, but with Sense 2.1, such as Calkulin's roms.

WAR_GA said:
I am a very satisfied user of my Verizon TP2 (stock rom). It is by far the best phone I've owned.
I was wondering, as I wait for Verizon to release WinMo 6.5, what improvements might I anticipate with this new version? Will there be anything earth shattering or significant?
I just didn't want to be checking the boards everyday, waiting for something that really isn't worth drooling over!
Thanks for your thoughts!
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From my experience it benefit you by more eye candies and being exponentially slower. Ofcourse, it will use Sense 2.5 which has more graphic than 2.1. Such as the weather effect on over the entire Today screen.
The organization is strange, the icons are displayed in zigzag order which makes no sense and difficult to navigate. The one thing I like is in file explorer you can select multiple files at once. There are more specific things, but since it is slower and take up more space it is not more practical for me as I do not masturbate to my cellphone. Personally if I was to use 6.5, then I would get a custom rom that has 6.5.5, but with Sense 2.1, such as Calkulin's roms.
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False. Currently, only the HTC Leo (HD2) will officially run with Sense 2.5. The Rhodium will still (at least for now) officially have Sense 2.1. The current stock ROMs contains TouchFlo3D 2.0 (Manila 2.0; neither Manila 2.1 nor Manila 2.5).
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It's true it's simply eye candy, but it's also finger-friendliness. The "zigzag order" or "honeycomb" layout is initially confusing, but after running WM6.5 since September, I like it and it's definitely finger friendly. Nevertheless, there is a tweak to disable the honeycomb layout, and turns it into a vertical list layout.
Also, as you get deeper into WM6.5 (where there is no Manila integration), in menus such as Sounds & Notifications, there's definitely a more rounded (better looking) appearance to the whole interface. Moreover, you can swipe left and right to access the other "tabs" that you have in WM6.1.
However, I do agree that a custom ROM with WM6.5.x is definitely a worthy upgrade from WM6.1. It's much easier to navigate with the Start button and other navigation controls at the bottom of the screen.

I'm a big fan of the new lock screen since you can just slide to unlock rather than press two different screen areas. It also shows your calendar appointments which is pretty awesome.
I don't like how settings are organized since it can be a pita to find something specific and you have to go back/forth through the menus. And sms/mms can pretty much lock up my phone it's so slow, but really it was like that on 6.1 too so I dunno. Overall it's graphically much nicer, but slower so I kinda hate it.
ps I'm on the latest Mighty Rom w/o sense.

Finger friendlier menus and better arrangement. I use SPB Mobile Shell 3.5.3 and think Manila (Sense or whatever) is too painful to use. With this setup my Touch Pro 2 flies so don't believe that 6.5 is just slow......Its not.

Agree
More finger friendly, nicer UI!!
Don´t forget to vote for Rhodium!!

WEll
in 6.5 can you reorder your PROGRAMS screen? is there a way to do this in 6.1??? I have to remove icons and add them aagin in the proper space to organize them...

dahauss said:
in 6.5 can you reorder your PROGRAMS screen? is there a way to do this in 6.1??? I have to remove icons and add them aagin in the proper space to organize them...
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Depending on the ROM you get, you can press/hold on an icon, and drag to wherever you want. In other ROMs (probably like the stock ROM, not sure) you press/hold on an icon, and you can only let it go to the very top of the start menu.

WAR_GA said:
I am a very satisfied user of my Verizon TP2 (stock rom). It is by far the best phone I've owned.
I was wondering, as I wait for Verizon to release WinMo 6.5, what improvements might I anticipate with this new version? Will there be anything earth shattering or significant?
I just didn't want to be checking the boards everyday, waiting for something that really isn't worth drooling over!
Thanks for your thoughts!
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More eye candy, just this

I loved the eye candy -- but did not like how fast my battery drained and lockups that required me to hit the reset button because the phone would not "wake up" no matter what button I pushed. I'm back to 6.1 but carefully looking though the custom roms with 6.5 before deciding to jump in.

sunNsnow said:
I loved the eye candy -- but did not like how fast my battery drained and lockups that required me to hit the reset button because the phone would not "wake up" no matter what button I pushed. I'm back to 6.1 but carefully looking though the custom roms with 6.5 before deciding to jump in.
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Guessing you had the same problem I was having:
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Here's a video of my problem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4QfRyUuhkA
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I did a hard reset and haven't had it happen to me again.

Videos play smoother
Noticed two big things other than appearance... Bluetooth now hangs up correctly, and 2, videos play smoothly without having to disable bluetooth.
Two big improvement that now put 6.5 back in the same playing field as the TP I with 6.1...
-Sheldon

Manila? No, thanks. I need speed.

Manila, Manila 2.1, Manila 2.5, Sense.
Cool, Eye catchers, Smooth, etc. etc. etc.
These add-ons make the Topaz look and feel better. Just scroll left, scroll right, touch the thing and it rollz.
Is this really needed?
I don't think so. I have tried a lot of roms with these interfaces. Indeed the eyes are satisfied. But the performance is not.
I want when press the green send button the dialer to appear immediately, not after the phone first wake up. I want when executing something the thing to be run, rather than waiting sometimes ridiculous seconds until the appearance.
I was bored and bored with waiting. Really why something to be loaded into my system if that is not what works for me?? I work with dialer, contacts, calendar, run various applications. Why to waste system resources on interfaces???
My boredom lead to removing the sense through the today settings and
adding some today plugins, like launcher. And of course – topaz keyboard control for keys mapping.
The result is much much faster phone, which works for me, not for the interface.
Edit: WM 6.1. is fast, but a lot of features from 2009 are missing, that is why I prefer WM6.5.

if you want speed install wm 6.1 with no interface.

orlean, agree completely

orlean said:
Manila, Manila 2.1, Manila 2.5, Sense.
Cool, Eye catchers, Smooth, etc. etc. etc.
These add-ons make the Topaz look and feel better. Just scroll left, scroll right, touch the thing and it rollz.
Is this really needed?
I don't think so. I have tried a lot of roms with these interfaces. Indeed the eyes are satisfied. But the performance is not.
I want when press the green send button the dialer to appear immediately, not after the phone first wake up. I want when executing something the thing to be run, rather than waiting sometimes ridiculous seconds until the appearance.
I was bored and bored with waiting. Really why something to be loaded into my system if that is not what works for me?? I work with dialer, contacts, calendar, run various applications. Why to waste system resources on interfaces???
My boredom lead to removing the sense through the today settings and
adding some today plugins, like launcher. And of course – topaz keyboard control for keys mapping.
The result is much much faster phone, which works for me, not for the interface.
Edit: WM 6.1. is fast, but a lot of features from 2009 are missing, that is why I prefer WM6.5.
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which features do you mean??????

cyron_at
Basically I lack WIFI router integrated (I know I can install it separately);
And I had some bad expirence with some settings which I can not recall now.
But the number of question marks in your post made me look for another 6.1. realase. I am now downloading tess 6.1. from august.
What do you use?

use tess and you will be fine).
and if 6.1 is ugly to you try home ui or new infinity ui. they are speedy too.

orlean said:
cyron_at
Basically I lack WIFI router integrated (I know I can install it separately);
And I had some bad expirence with some settings which I can not recall now.
But the number of question marks in your post made me look for another 6.1. realase. I am now downloading tess 6.1. from august.
What do you use?
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I am using duttys HG R6...very stable; but try them all and make your choice...

So this has anything to do with themes?
I didnt think so. Try posting in the right section, then maybe your phone will be speedier.

xboxhaxorz said:
So this has anything to do with themes?
I didnt think so. Try posting in the right section, then maybe your phone will be speedier.
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The forum is titled " Topaz Themes, Applications and Software"
Sense 2.1 & 2.5 fit 2 of these categories....

xboxhaxorz said:
So this has anything to do with themes?
I didnt think so. Try posting in the right section, then maybe your phone will be speedier.
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chill man he posted about the fact that mannila sucks and he coudnt be more correct.

I'm with you! Stopped using Manila a few days ago and my mobile experience has never been better. Using no today plug-ins now and my phone is faster, lighter and more stable than ever before. Memory usage is now 33% on a fresh boot and my home screen is uncluttered showing only my wallpaper, which looks great.
The most important thing for me was organising my start menu so that all my apps are readily accessable. That done, it's easy for me to access everything i need quickly, in fact faster than it was using Manila. I find Winmo 6.5 has everything i need with exception of a few things, and for those there are great free alternatives without having to resort to Manila bloat. For instance i use Nitrogen as a music player which is ten times better than Windows mobile media player OR Manila player.
Of course your mileage will vary but in my opinion the OP is right. Get yourself a good 6.5 ROM, install apps for the things you need/use a lot and use the start menu to access them.

Hi DirkGently1,
Hi guys;
I tried WM6.5. then reverted to 6.1.
I have running in the background: FingerKeyboard, AutoCallRecord, PlayPause, Topazkbgkontrol.
Memory after restart... 29%
I use Topaz Essential 6.1. v.2f
And the best part is that I don't want to flash new rom anymore :

orlean said:
Hi DirkGently1,
Hi guys;
I tried WM6.5. then reverted to 6.1.
I have running in the background: FingerKeyboard, AutoCallRecord, PlayPause, Topazkbgkontrol.
Memory after restart... 29%
I use Topaz Essential 6.1. v.2f
And the best part is that I don't want to flash new rom anymore :
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So true. Once you find a good ROM there's no reason to change. Stability and speed are what makes a good user experience and Manila, or any other add-on UI, runs contrary to that by adding complexity, instability and bloat.

i hate to say this twice but realy , try infinity. runs realy great on topaz. it maybe not complete replacment yet but its usable

madman_cro said:
i hate to say this twice but realy , try infinity. runs realy great on topaz. it maybe not complete replacment yet but its usable
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But what does it do that i can't do without it?

well. nothing realy. but its nice to have shortcuts the way you want them and see what time it is. and all that is pretty without slowdowns

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=582081
Just a nod to the chef here for people who like a clean rom without any bloatware. Xara 6.5.x clean is working perfectly on my Topaz and i LOVE it!

DirkGently1 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=582081
Just a nod to the chef here for people who like a clean rom without any bloatware. Xara 6.5.x clean is working perfectly on my Topaz and i LOVE it!
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Great! That is what I am always looking for! I dont understand how can I pass that. nah....
Thanks for the link dude

krs4444 said:
Great! That is what I am always looking for! I dont understand how can I pass that. nah....
Thanks for the link dude
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My pleasure!
This is the 1st truly useable clean rom that has been released for the Topaz and it is really spot on. Even the default Windows Mobile keyboard is useable, in fact much improved from previous iterations.
Kudos to the chef.

Ï hate Manila and I hate 6.5 -and I'll probably also hate 7