Is it possible to relocate the lower taskbar where the bluetooth/running program icons sit??
I want to move it down into the softkey position as i have found a program to disable this from this site:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=27331&highlight=16
From Buzzdev.net it seems that the lower taskbar is in fact HHTaskbar and on searching the registry for this please see image below.
I think it must be controlled by a registry setting no?? any ideas?
Registry seems to point to /windows/shell32.exe
anybody able to look into this file?? maybe something in there, something must instruct the taskbar to appear at that exact location so hopefully it can be moved?!
Images below show my screen current and my screen when taskbar activated
Thank you for taking time to read this.
Darren_Bridgeland: there is another program out to hide the tray, but I forget what it's called. I'll be releasing an update of VJToggleToday as soon as I can finish off a few things on it. Hopefully be working on it this weekend... but I say that every week
This is an issue you guys need to think about though:
- hiding the tray is fine, but consider that when we do need access to the Tray, which occassionally we do, would you like it as an overlay as you have it now, or revert all of the changes made by VJToggleTodayWM5, which will optionally be:
- toggle tray
- shrink start bar (top)
- shrink soft buttons (bottom)
- expand Today screen
I future version of VJToggleToday will do some more funky stuff with the Tray, but for now, we need to consider - should I hide the tray/unhide and revert all changes, or hide/overlay similar to the current "feature" in the old WM2003 version you're using.
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Thank you for answering so quickly vijay555 I was just looking at your personal website, great work your doing there
I absolutely love the clean look your togglenew program has given my device but unfortunately I agree that the system tray is needed.
All im hoping for is a way to relocate the tray into the old 'new menu' position at the bottom underneath Ilauncher in my screenshot. I can then reduce pocketbreeze size and away i go lol
Is this possible?
But if I mush the tray down to where the soft keys would be, what about the sofkeys?
Relocate the tray above the soft keys?
VJToggleToday works on relatively simple ideas, but the permuations are the pain of it - if I shrink the Start bar, I have to account for it in the Today screen, the soft buttons and the Tray. If I hide the tray, I have to account for it likewise. However, if I don't hide the tray? If I don't shrink the SoftButtons? Und so weiter.
VJToggleToday is going to need a config dialog I think. And a clear head to program stuff like tray toggling. The basic code is done though, I hope. I haven't looked at it for a while - so busy on VJCandela cross compatibility and something else - old, but new, coming soon :wink:
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If you look at my screenshots I currently have my screen full, Ilauncher is sitting right at the bottom where the softkeys WOULD BE. Im asking for the tray to be INSTEAD of the softkeys (so to be EXACT the tray needs to be located 26pixels lower than its usual postion). Then I can reduce pocketbreeze by 26 pixels.
At the moment the tray cuts right through Ilauncher as Ilauncher is sitting in the tray & softkey position.
Is this clearer??
I understand that Darren.
In my WM5 screenshot, I've minimised the soft keys to 2 pixels rather then remove them completely, on the basis that you might still want to tap on them with the stylus (I do this with my Magician's start bar (top), which is minimised to 2 pixels and then overlayed with a 24 pixel PhoneAlarm skin
However, if you KNOW you will not need this, ie only use the hard keys to access the softmenu, then I can make it an option to entirely remove the softkeys (however - the SIP icon overlay still seems to enjoy popping up. I'll investigate that later).
I'm intending to make it optional to configure the size of the softkeys and start menu, from 26 pix to 0. Maybe make it bigger then 26 pix for VGA screens? That might be cool.
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That would be a good feature to be able to configure the menu's size. So just out of interest the togglenew program, does that disable the softkeys or shrink them? Ive remade my wallpaper to be 26 pixels large and nothing appears clickable, I assumed it completely disabled them (think im getting confused lol)
Trouble is even if you disable/shrink softkeys how will you move the system tray to the bottom of the screen??
It cant be via another program as people will want to butt programs up to the tray, so you'll need to find the code that currently locates it and alter the code perminantly no??
You're using the old VJToggleToday which is Wm2003. That's hardcoded to hide the New menu on Wm2003, and by accident the soft keys on Wm5. But for the Wm5 it's more sophisticated internally (hence then new WM2003 version as well, which will be more foolproof).
The new version will permit resizing of the soft keys, and I guess the start menu (for those who use start bar replacements).
Moving the Tray is no problem. On my WM2003 I used to use it like this:
VJHideStart
To permit hiding it, but bringing it back optionally. Future versions of VJToggleTodayWM5 will (hopefully) have similar options.
It cant be via another program as people will want to butt programs up to the tray
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That's all part of the difficulties involved in writing it. There are lots of contingencies to take into account.
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wow how did you move the tray?? was it hard/easy?
could i manage it??
Sure you could manage it, but through code. PM me if you want to discuss.
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You're using the old VJToggleToday which is Wm2003. That's hardcoded to hide the New menu on Wm2003, and by accident the soft keys on Wm5. But for the Wm5 it's more sophisticated internally (hence then new WM2003 version as well, which will be more foolproof).
The new version will permit resizing of the soft keys, and I guess the start menu (for those who use start bar replacements).
Moving the Tray is no problem. On my WM2003 I used to use it like this:
VJHideStart
To permit hiding it, but bringing it back optionally. Future versions of VJToggleTodayWM5 will (hopefully) have similar options.
It cant be via another program as people will want to butt programs up to the tray
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That's all part of the difficulties involved in writing it. There are lots of contingencies to take into account.
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Is there any way to have the latest beta version of VJToggleTodayWM5 ? Thanks in advance.
Not really jolas: if it was ready to release, I'd release it, but I've been too tied up to work on it for a while. I'll try to have a look at this and a couple of other apps this weekend... I'm also releasing a couple of other new-ish things this weekend, so busy busy
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Thanks for your reply vijay555. Please, try to release this app, it will be very usefull for me and a lot of other people.
Hope this weekend it a positive and productive one for you Vijay and cant wait to see the results :wink:
Hope to recieve a PM about the coding, but will understand if your trying to sort the program instead.
Take Care
Any news about VJToggleTodayWM5 ???
its next on vijay's priority list, hes just finished a couple of other programs. Hopefully we'll start seeing some progress over the next week or 2
Thanks Darren. See you're posting from Buzzdev!
Yes, as I've been saying for a while, my developments tend to dovetail together. I finally got a chance to do some work on VJFullscreenTSC this weekend, which I hope finally works properly. It's had minimal testing but it worked fine on my VGA universal.
But from there I learnt a couple of lessons I needed to bring back to VJToggleToday. It strikes me that this app should not be too hard to finish now. That's no promise - I've had some very concerning news recently about Vijay555.1, my little baby who is on his way. So as I'm sure you'll all understand, family priorities
But certainly, next on my plate is VJToggleToday, finally. And research has given way to a couple of new ideas that should also help a few left handed chaps out. But one app at a time...
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ooh I hope vijay 555.1 is ok. Ive just had a little boy 3 days ago so good luck with that.
My 2 year old was a very traumatic pregnancy and first 15months of life so I wish you all the best
Many thanks Darren. News could be better on Vijay555.1, but it could be worse. All the best to your little one! Now the real hard work begins. I must be the only guy looking forward to having an excuse to be up at night, with nothing to do but program and look at the kid..
I'm only managing an hour or two coding on weekdays, and that's slow progress, barely one app to look at per night.
Yesterday was VJFullscreenTSC again (check out the new screenshots), but VJToggleToday is certainly next. I'm resisting VJTrayLaunch, which I also have some ideas for...
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Please give us a beta!!!
Is any beta of VJToggleTodayWM5 ready to be releasead? Please, give us something test!
How do I make the text larger then what the slider in
Settings>System>Screen>Text Size
allows ?
Is there an app that sets this larger or a REG Value I can change.
I looked and so far can not find what I want.
stainlesspc said:
How do I make the text larger then what the slider in
Settings>System>Screen>Text Size
allows ?
Is there an app that sets this larger or a REG Value I can change.
I looked and so far can not find what I want.
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I've used this purchased software with success for changing font size
http://www.penreader.com/pocket-pc-software/CETuner_2002.html
Not sure about it's functionality on windows mobile 6
Good Luck.
There a few ways. If you want reg settings, I'll have to sift through some old posts, otherwise you can use SK Tools. I highly recomend SK Tools, I think it's the best utility around & so do a lot of others. It's great for performance tweaking & modding the UI as well as cleaning up temp files & optimizing the registry.
Thanks I will try them.
My dad is thinking of going from a Razor to a Tilt but wants bigger fonts so he can read it.
Not worried about how much just how big.
SK Tools
SK Tools looks to be pretty cool.
But Still can not get the today screen font bigger then what "text size" in settings does.
Is there a way to do this ?
Maybe I missed a setting in SK Tools ?
stainlesspc said:
SK Tools looks to be pretty cool.
But Still can not get the today screen font bigger then what "text size" in settings does.
Is there a way to do this ?
Maybe I missed a setting in SK Tools ?
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Give this some play time as well. It's called zoom & you can map to a HW button & use on any page. I personally like to select the two last items in the options menu. Then you have to execute & imediately touch what you want to zoom in on. the tap again to exit. For the settings, you execute then don't touch the screen. After a moment the options will come up.
http://rapidshare.com/files/81335165/Zoom.rar
Pretty slick
THANKS
I have spent the last several days searching googling etc.. to no avail It boggles my mind I can not find this I must just be using the wrong keywords in my searches.
I want to skin the today screen or replace it I do not care. I have a PPC 6700 on sprint. I want the background image to be FULL screen either by getting rid of the top and bottom status bars or Skinning them. However it needs to be done.
here is a link so you can get an idea of what I am after LEFT is how my screen looks now RIGHT is how I "desire" my screen to look.
http://www.nerys.com/stuff/ppc Its the Today.jpg
Any suggestions? How would I accomplish this?
Thanks!
This is "one" of the many ways to remove the topbar:
http://oldsap.blogspot.com/2006/08/themegence-tips-from-newbie2.html
WOW thanks SO much that looks to be exactly what I want. Only problem is it SHOWS the top and bottom removed but gives NO indication at all as to how to actually do it :-( moaning SOO close. I got the theme program. Help file is useless. Website contains no clues no forums etc..
Any Ideas ? I am playing with the program right now but I see NO "obvious" means with which to accomplish this.
AHH now I understand (found another thread) this is in combination with a program VJToggle that gets rid of the start and new bars. Alas I do not want to get rid of them I just want to add transparency or skin them :-(
i found a feature of ultimate launch 1.2, find and install... then find its directory, there are two files in the folder "smart tools" dcinobar.exe (removes bottom soft keys) and toggle.exe (toggles top bar on/off)
a nice thing is the actual buttons still bring up the menus and soft keys still work, the visual element is just removed from the today screen.
i copied dcinobar to the windows directory and placed a shortcut in the start up folder.
i have since uninstalled ultimatelaunch but i have a great today screen without soft keys!
skinning today screen
hello all,
i have a similar problem, i am running a MIps pocketpc2000 device, i run pocket blinds to give the toolbars additional features that the stock toolbars dont give, my question is this on many of the demo pictures of the device the screen shows the top and bottom toolbars with the today screen overlayed with a picture in the background, i have found various today plugin's that allow a picture to be displayed but not behind, it inserts it below under the appointments and tasks, thus showing part of the picture. any suggestions as i assume it is registry related as the image (white background) must get pulled from somewhere??
I was wondering if it's possible to make the panel persistent. I'd like it to be visilbe all the time instead of autohiding when entering apps. Is this even possible with root or custom rom?
Not a whole lot of mods for the Edge. Best mod I've seen is RuggedHunter's AutoCocktail. Search RuggedHunter in the play store. Also that 24hr night clock mod...
Seems like having the panel fully visible would block stuff.
That's pretty cool, even though it's not what I'm looking for. I wonder if it would be difficult to make by myself. I'm a programmer but never tried android modding. When edge panels are active on the home screen, they don't block stuff, maybe that would be possible in normal apps ass well. Is there any developer who could at least give me any hint where to start or if this is even possible to do? I found a simple workaround for this. If you'll start popup window and make it as big as possible, you can use both app and screen all the time. Perhaps it would be possible to force apps to launch as popup which would take entire homescreen except edge?
Im considering upgrading my Z5C, but I see f.ex small apps are missing, and Im so depended on them in my everyday life. I´ll really miss all of them, but I think the hardest one to let go of would be the Notes. The possibility to wuick open a note and write, and then safe it so it stays in the notification bar. I need to make To dos and reminder notes all the time at work and private life so need to have have easy access plus have them "in my face" for reminding me (no, dont want a widget on the main home screen since I want and need that cleaned from stress, haha, and swipe for home screen arnt in my face enough as when its in the Notification bar with the Small app Notes.).
So, Im woundering if anyone think Small apps will come back? Or know of any good apps to replace my Small app need?
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Im considering upgrading my Z5C, but I see f.ex small apps are missing, and Im so depended on them in my everyday life. I´ll really miss all of them, but I think the hardest one to let go of would be the Notes. The possibility to wuick open a note and write, and then safe it so it stays in the notification bar. I need to make To dos and reminder notes all the time at work and private life so need to have have easy access plus have them "in my face" for reminding me (no, dont want a widget on the main home screen since I want and need that cleaned from stress, haha, and swipe for home screen arnt in my face enough as when its in the Notification bar with the Small app Notes.).
So, Im woundering if anyone think Small apps will come back? Or know of any good apps to replace my Small app need?
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I wish they could come back.
Actually the only replacement that I know is to open two apps on the screen which is possible on the new xperias.
Good luck
yes , I believe that the multiwondows option is way better than the small apps .