I was trying to figure out how to change the default SIP on a WWE ROM with a SIP from another language ROM.
I managed to import the DLLs (msmit.dll in my case) and the correct CLSID reg key, so i can chose the keyboard as an input method.
But if i try to set this as the default imput method the ROM hangs. And that's strange 'cause is used as default IM in the proper language ROMs.
(i know i can use changeSIP but i'm trying to do it without external software)
Anyone has a clue on that?
thx
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hello all i have XDA mini S wm5 unit..wanted to load 3rd party keyboard which i can do fine..but can i get the damn things to work !! when selecting the the new keyboard (different language) the unit defaults straight back to the keyboard installed..wont even attempt to show the new one..any ideas ? have even change the registration to different code but even doing that still shows default keyboard..do'h
thanks
Hi plasticplanet!
Sounds like the system can't find the DLL for this keyboard.
The simple solution is to re-install it, and make sure you install it in main memory.
The not so simple solution: If you know the name of the DLL for the keyboard, get a registry editor, search for it under HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{keyboards CLSID}\InprocServer32
and make sure the DLL is in fact in the path specified.
There is also a chance that the DLL is present but can not initialize for some reason. You should check the following:
Was the keyboard installed properly with its installer as directed?
Does the keyboard support your OS (WM5)?
Is registration required? (licence, key etc.)
hi levenun...thanks for your suggestion..i contacted one of the 3rd party companies about this problem..apparently in wm5 (fecking bill gates) the rom version i have which is 1.5 has a bug in it..apparently the memory used to change keyboards is the same that is used for today screen..so if you have plug-ins it wont allow you to change certain things...the company DynaType suggested that i switch them off and then try it..and guess what it worked after that i could then activate my today plug-ins once more
thanks for having a think about my problem :wink:
levenum said:
Hi plasticplanet!
Sounds like the system can't find the DLL for this keyboard.
The simple solution is to re-install it, and make sure you install it in main memory.
The not so simple solution: If you know the name of the DLL for the keyboard, get a registry editor, search for it under HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{keyboards CLSID}\InprocServer32
and make sure the DLL is in fact in the path specified.
There is also a chance that the DLL is present but can not initialize for some reason. You should check the following:
Was the keyboard installed properly with its installer as directed?
Does the keyboard support your OS (WM5)?
Is registration required? (licence, key etc.)
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Finally got wm6 installed on my spv c600 after afew grooling hours but there is 1 small problem, i cannot wright any text in sms's etc, just comes up as numbers and theres no options for turning t9 on etc. i added the sp5 packes to windows like the post said but it still wont work.
Any suggestions,
thanks
which wm6 version did you install?
this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321665
Its realy bugging me!
You have to install the t9 pack you want to use to the phone (not storage card) then restart the phone.
Im not very good at this, i dunno how to install or where to get the t9 pack from? :s
Here you go, please use the search function next time
Is there a way to make T9 always the default input method?
In Java machine Jeodek i have to select T9 input each time manually, because it always resets to 'abc' input method.
With xT9 this problem is fixed. Once set to xT9, you always have xT9, but with T9 it's not the same
Oh. I eventually got TouchPal work on one of my friend's device. Very special way...
(if you don't know what is TouchPal, please go to http://www.cootek.com)
Step A> Common steps:
1. Install TouchPal
2. Soft-reset your device
Step B>Check with your device version:
1. Make sure you can find "\Program Files\TouchPal" folder. If it exists, go to Step C directly.
2. If not, try to find another folder named "Programme". If you can find it, copy TouchPal folder, create a folder under root directory named "Program Files" and then paste TouchPal folder into it.
3. Soft-reset and try again.
Step C> If it doesn't work, try the following steps:
1. Install a workable SIP (PocketCM in my case)
2. Install a registry editor (http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/phmregistryeditor.shtml)
3. Find the registry key of that SIP under:
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\
if it is PocketCM, it is HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\BB25F2EB-688C-4698-ADFC-F422A148AD4F
4. Go to InprocServer32 key, change the "default" value to:
"\Program Files\TouchPal\touchpal.dll"
5. Save and exit
6. Soft-reset your device, TouchPal works now!
Caution: After Step C, your PocketCM doesn't work anymore. You need to change that value back and reboot to make PCM work again. But actually, I don't really need it anymore, do you?
Hope more and more people could use this really cool SIP just like me~
Nice going there.
I assume you are from Germany as you refer to your Program Files folder as being "Programme" - How did you get around the missing dictionary and special characters used in your language (äöß)?
Tried to perfrom your approach on a Dutch Mio PDA I have here, just for testing. Did not manage to get it to work. I will wait for my Touch to arrive in 2 days and give it a go again then. To me all of this sound like a badly written installer for the SIP. But must say the Sip itself looks promising, would even buy it I think.
Found another workaround, based on JerryChan's workaround, so credit goes to him:
This is when installing on anther CE OS then English !!!!!
1. Install TouchPal
2. Install a registry editor (http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities...ryeditor.shtml)
3. Find the registry key of that SIP under:
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{802C691C-EB46-442c-BC54-DC2C42B156C3}
4. Go to InprocServer32 key, change the "default" value to:
"\<your program files folder name>\TouchPal\touchpal.dll"
5. Save and exit
6. Soft-reset your device, TouchPal works now!
Regards,
John
I am not sure whether it is the bug in SIP or in Windows Mobile. Actually it is quite common that a third-party SIP couldn't run on some Windows Mobile. I actually bet "SIP cannot load on some devices" must be a windows bug. But I think at least, the "Programme" issue must be a setup bug in that SIP. Going to report to CooTek! Hope they can fix this issue in coming release. Overall, TouchPal is still the best!
BTW, I didn't find the way to type those characters. Cannot wait to see international version of TouchPal.
joval said:
Tried to perfrom your approach on a Dutch Mio PDA I have here, just for testing. Did not manage to get it to work. I will wait for my Touch to arrive in 2 days and give it a go again then. To me all of this sound like a badly written installer for the SIP. But must say the Sip itself looks promising, would even buy it I think.
Found another workaround, based on JerryChan's workaround, so credit goes to him:
This is when installing on anther CE OS then English !!!!!
1. Install TouchPal
2. Install a registry editor (http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities...ryeditor.shtml)
3. Find the registry key of that SIP under:
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{802C691C-EB46-442c-BC54-DC2C42B156C3}
4. Go to InprocServer32 key, change the "default" value to:
"\<your program files folder name>\TouchPal\touchpal.dll"
5. Save and exit
6. Soft-reset your device, TouchPal works now!
Regards,
John
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Sorry, John. Seems this approach will kill customized word feature. That is, you cannot add customized word anymore.
I suggest you just use my solution on "Programme" like device.
Thank you so much - I finally got TouchPal working on my HTC Touch !
Now it works! Thanks jerrychan.
@jerrychan,
You are right noticed that also, probably due to hardcoding the path to the dictionary also.
So if you combine both our suggestions, you no longer need to install PocketCM.
John
Hi there
I really would like to use TouchPal as my default SIP but it is rather 'unstable'. Maybe I've installed other SIPs, such as CE Star, Phonepad etc.
Anyway, the steps mentioned here by the two gentlemen seems to be for those who didn't have TouchPal installed in the correct place. For my Trinity Asian ROM (official from HTC), the installation is as per what's being described here, so no changes are needed. But still, TouchPal refused to run sometimes.
Last night I tried installing some XT9 cab files which doesn't seem to work. After that TouchPal didn't run properly anymore. I've to delete it. Sigh..
Not sure what's wrong..
Sian said:
Hi there
I really would like to use TouchPal as my default SIP but it is rather 'unstable'. Maybe I've installed other SIPs, such as CE Star, Phonepad etc.
Anyway, the steps mentioned here by the two gentlemen seems to be for those who didn't have TouchPal installed in the correct place. For my Trinity Asian ROM (official from HTC), the installation is as per what's being described here, so no changes are needed. But still, TouchPal refused to run sometimes.
Last night I tried installing some XT9 cab files which doesn't seem to work. After that TouchPal didn't run properly anymore. I've to delete it. Sigh..
Not sure what's wrong..
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Similar issue appears on a lot of devices for different SIP. I think this is Microsoft Windows Mobile's bug.
x7500 and touchpal
has anyone got touchpal to work on an x7500 running mobile6
if so please post how to
i tryed jerry's solution but don't work for me ... what can i do? ( i want to useh touchPal... :|
Can't get it to work on HTC TyTN II English OS
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1. Installed TouchPal [on Device]
2. Soft Reset
3. Selecting TouchPal goes to default WinMob keyboard
4. Checked the Registry keys HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{802C691C-EB46-442c-BC54-DC2C42B156C3}
under InprocServer32 value of Default is \Program Files\TouchPal\touchpal.dll (this is the path to the program's dll)
5. 2nd Soft Reset
6. Tried selecting TouchPal again still no sucess
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what else can be done? I don't have PocketCM installed.
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Can't get it to work on HTC TyTN II English OS
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1. Installed TouchPal [on Device]
2. Soft Reset
3. Selecting TouchPal goes to default WinMob keyboard
4. Checked the Registry keys HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{802C691C-EB46-442c-BC54-DC2C42B156C3}
under InprocServer32 value of Default is \Program Files\TouchPal\touchpal.dll (this is the path to the program's dll)
5. 2nd Soft Reset
6. Tried selecting TouchPal again still no sucess
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what else can be done? I don't have PocketCM installed.
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hi guyz.. same problem here on Prophet 4.0.0.0.6 PV-Touch WM6...
Hi,
I have a problem with custom Soft Input Methods don't be selectable. If I install e.g. PocketCM Keyboard, VITO's or Resco onscreen keyboard, they all show up in the SIP-Menu, but selecting them does not have any effekt. The default keyboard keeps enabled.
I am running Windows Mobile 6.1 5.2.20940 right now, but the problem occures with earlier builts, too.
I tried SIPChange and manually altered the registry to change the defaultSIP. Nothing helps. The custom SIP stays unselectable.
I was searching for security settings (policies) which might avoid the custom SIPs from running.
I'm not sure, whether this helps, but by default I do not cook Transcriber into the ROM. Installing it as a default application (not cooked into the rom) results in Transcriber being not selectable as all the other custom SIPs. Cooking it into the ROM makes it work. Unforunatelly this does not work for the custom SIPs.
Switching off security with the help of some cabs found here in the forum does not help, eighter.
I have absolutelly no more idea, what could cause the issue. As far as I understand, SIPs are "simple" COM-Objects. What could prevent them from being used by windows?
Please help me!!!
The Kitchen for my ROM can be found here, if it is needed for debugging or so. http://uploaded.to/?id=dajlrx
It is password protected with: www.eten-users.eu
Thanks!
I had the same issue... but reseting the device solved it... sometimes my device just got stuck on a sip and wouldn't let me change it. and as i need 2 languages it was kinda difficult.
I suggest you try installing a new sip.. not a new keybaord... you can find a few (such as opal's or diamond's).. and try to see if it works.
if not.. i'd HR
I once had such a problem on a Wizard, using some crappy branded ROM.
What helped me, was exporting the entire CLSID registry branch, then removing it and importing it back. The problem was probably caused by registry fragmentation, but that was WM5 and i don't know if internal registry structure didn't change since then so it might not help at all.
But i guess there's no harm in trying.
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if not.. i'd HR
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I don't think that'll help, since the problem happens on a freshly flashed ROM (at leas i understood it that way).
Hello,
I need help with this problem that it is driving me crazy. On my WM6.5 23564 cooked ROM I'm now unable to change from the basic keyboard to the FingerKeyboard that came embeded in the ROM.
I'm not refering to place FingerKeyboard as the default SIP input after boot. I mean really making a normal selection of something other than the basic keyboard.
This functionality used to work fine but some app I installed caused this behaviour. I don't know which app.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzNCY2Xkrow
Hoping to solve the problem I tried one at a time (switching the phone off after each try):
- Changing the default SIP input to FingerKeyboard with SK Tools (that toggles it in registry).
- Changing the default SIP input in nueSIPDefault (tool came with ROM) and set time from 10 to 59 seconds.
- Installing another 3rd party keyboard (SlideIt). I was unable to select this one too. Installing FingerKeyboard cab.
- Using SIPChange.CAB recommend on another post about SIP input.
- Using AC_IM_Selector.CAB recommend on another post about SIP input.
- Tried sipswitch.exe from Vijay but I don't know how to use it. When I click on it, it just pops up the basic keyboard.
- Disabling SPB items (wireless monitor, backup, news, time) from appearing on home screen
- And also a tip I saw: 1. Export HKCR\CLSID (will save to a *.reg file) / 2. Del or Rename HKCR\CLSID / 3. Import the backup of HKCR\CLSID / Turn off your device about 15 sec and reset .
None of this worked for me. Ramdonly FingerKeyboard appeared 2 or 3 times, but disappears the same way.
Any idea about a solution to this?
Thanks
Finally I found a workaround that allows me to use other keyboard besides the windows default.
After installing more than 10 keyboards and SIP managing apps I installed EzInput 2.1 QVGA and now it always shows that one. I'm still unable to change to the other installed keyboards like fingerkeyboard or SlideIt, but at least I'm not stuck with only the windows one. Only worked with 2.1. Version 1.5 showed the windows default.
EzInput is far from perfect. I still prefer SlideIt or FingerKeyboard over this one, but I can live with it.
Also tried Biotouch (dll, exe and reg) and it didn't solve the main problem.
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try these dude:
Show SIP Menu.cab
SIP Change.cab
Sip Config Tool.cab
Rn
Thanks for your suggestion. I tried those but it didn't solve the problem.
"SIP Change.CAB" was one of the tools I mentioned on my first post.
"Sip Config Tool.cab" is not for input methods. It is to configure session initiation protocol. You know... that VoIP protocol, port 5060, registrar, etc.
"Show SIP Menu.cab" doesn't do anything. I searched and it appears to be used to launch a hidden menu in WM6.5 where you can change T9 language. In my phone it didn't launch any menu or added any icon.