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One Seriously P***** Guy Over these New XDA Thangs

If O2 or CPW (Car phone warehouse) Offer these new XDA's that are meant to be coming out on a Free upgrade I'll be happy but if they don't I'll be really pissed i've only recently shelved out alot of dosh for my current XDA and to know that its about to be 'Superseeded' Is something I'm not happy about! I allready have a £500 bill I carnt pay for just one months worth of GPRS Charges! That's Anouther thing when will Mobile companys come up with bargain bucket deals like NTL do on broadband? Lets say £30 p/m for unlimited GPRS Usage! now that'll give my xda something to do! and make my battery work harder! Grrrr :evil: o2 are Bastards! Who agrees?

Tmo in the states offers a $99 plan that has 1500 minutes, unlimited meg on GPRS, unlimited txt messaging and unlimited hotspot (wifi) usage.

PUSH E-MAIL??
For the $79 plan you really get the hookup, too. Just no included nights & weekends, for $5 extra u can get unlimited nights though.
Sweet deal, if you use the hotspots at all (I take my laptop to starbucks once in a while).
The only question is, how can we get the quasi-push e-mail for the XDA I? Works with the IPAQ, sends "silent" text to the phone to alert it to download messages. Sweet!! But isn't working on my old XDA.

collins199820 said:
If O2 or CPW (Car phone warehouse) Offer these new XDA's that are meant to be coming out on a Free upgrade I'll be happy but if they don't I'll be really pissed i've only recently shelved out alot of dosh for my current XDA and to know that its about to be 'Superseeded' Is something I'm not happy about! I allready have a £500 bill I carnt pay for just one months worth of GPRS Charges! That's Anouther thing when will Mobile companys come up with bargain bucket deals like NTL do on broadband? Lets say £30 p/m for unlimited GPRS Usage! now that'll give my xda something to do! and make my battery work harder! Grrrr :evil: o2 are Bastards! Who agrees?
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Mate, If I was you, I'd sell my new XDA on Ebay. If it's as new as you say, you can get at least £200 (the price you bought it for) and then use that to buy a new one when they come out in November.
I don't know if it'll be a free upgrade. I was gonna get an XDA II on contract last week and then found out about XDA IIi, IIs and MDA Compact.
I'll wait for the MDA Compact.
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=I-MATE_JAM

So I bought an iPhone...but hear me out!

Nevermind, I can't come up with any reasonable excuse. At the time I thought it would make a nice gift for my girlfriend, but then she surprised me by wanting my Fuze....yeah I lost that battle. Wasn't even a battle really; just handed it over LOL
So anyway I also figured I could sell the iPhone for more than it would take to buy another Fuze. Does anyone know if there will be any SIM problems? Or anything else I might not foresee? I don't know much about the iPhone; only that I've had it for less than a week and hate it more every day. So please, HELP ME.

Unless the Fuze is simlocked, it should not be a problem.
Well and if it is simlocked,...

It wouldn't matter; I'm going to be using it with AT&T. I'm more concerned about the "iPhone data plan." When I purchased the iPhone I was told that I was required to keep it for the duration of my contract. I'm not sure whether I can use that with the Fuze.

btstarcher said:
It wouldn't matter; I'm going to be using it with AT&T. I'm more concerned about the "iPhone data plan." When I purchased the iPhone I was told that I was required to keep it for the duration of my contract. I'm not sure whether I can use that with the Fuze.
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no you dont have to buy the iphone data plan. i currently own the HTC FUze and iPhone 3G 16gb and i am only paying for the pda data plan. ive been using the pda plan for unlimited text and internet for about 3 years. $15 is pretty decent a month. okay so the reason why they tell you that it is REQUIRED for the iphone is because they want to make more profit by adding an additional $15 a month for the same exact data plan except for the name and saying its exclusive for iphones. i first realized this when i first had a few qwerty keybaord phones from at&t 5 years ago and used the media net package and when i first got my blackjack and then the tytn ii, i never had a problem with the $10 a month plan and was able to surf the web and text. at&t never complained or called. now they cant do anything about it since you can buy iphones without contracts now. im about to save up for the Nokia N97. but anyways, you dont need the iPhone data plan. i know every at&t customer rep tells you to but you really dont have to. they cant charge you more. its not legal to do so. but yes, enjoy the iphone. its not really that bad. its just as much fun as flashing my fuze cept its alot more easier. haha i got the set up like my fuze. 300+ games, apps, etc. etc. modified interfaces for os x leaopard, vista, xp, etc. etc. haha i love all my windows mobile phones and my first iphone

Which unlimited data/messaging plan costs only $15/month? Mine was $30, and it was the cheapest one I saw! Also I think they can require it or make you pay full price for the phone. It's one reason they discount their phones so heavily.
The iPhone has a decent interface, and I like the way I can connect it to my car stereo; I just like to be able to access more settings. Plus the applications I use are free, and also business related. I have to pay for the same basic things on the iPhone. I can't even find a way to sync with MS Money! And the calendar on the iPhone is practically useless. In any case, it's on eBay now; I'm pretty sure I can leave my plan as-is. It costs the same as unlimited data for the Fuze anyway.

You have 30 days to return it to the store. Just run back there and get you a Fuze.

I could, but the Fuze will run $250; the iPhone was only $100. The average price on eBay for the iPhone is $428; I can get a Fuze for $350. So if I can do this without any trouble I'll make money instead of paying more.

btstarcher said:
I could, but the Fuze will run $250; the iPhone was only $100. The average price on eBay for the iPhone is $428; I can get a Fuze for $350. So if I can do this without any trouble I'll make money instead of paying more.
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no you don't. i got mine for $150. Just call in to customer service and ***** at them about how you have been with att for x years and that they're just giving you a $50 discount off the normal price when refurbs are going for free and how you pay subsidy fees to get the prices down and it adds up over time, etc etc you get the piont
good luck if u try to do this. took me about an hour and a half back in feb

Ah, if only I had been with them longer than 5 months....lol
I've already got everything done; got $410 for the iPhone, bought a practically new Fuze for $350. So it all worked out, and I ended up making $60 net. I also can switch to a PDA plan now, since I no longer have the iPhone.
I just have to say, I feel so free again!

btstarcher said:
Ah, if only I had been with them longer than 5 months....lol
I've already got everything done; got $410 for the iPhone, bought a practically new Fuze for $350. So it all worked out, and I ended up making $60 net. I also can switch to a PDA plan now, since I no longer have the iPhone.
I just have to say, I feel so free again!
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pop your sim into a nonpda phone, call them up and get the $10 or $15 a month data plan. if you have a family plan, get the $30 a month messaging plan with the $10 a month unlimited data on your line with the nonpda sim. switch back to the fuze and you're saving 20 a month! works GREAT for me!

I have a question here and I may have missed something, but how in Gods name did you get the PDA plan for $15...nhshah7 I'm familiar with doing that sim card swap but don't they have some sort of automated "scanner" that scans for non-PDA IMEIs or something like that?

slapdaddy said:
I have a question here and I may have missed something, but how in Gods name did you get the PDA plan for $15...nhshah7 I'm familiar with doing that sim card swap but don't they have some sort of automated "scanner" that scans for non-PDA IMEIs or something like that?
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mwahahaha
they have a scanner but it doesn't actually report the conflicting IMEI or anything to them. i just need to be careful what I say when I call in for support, etc, but it works great. It was just the sim swap but they dont really seem to notice/care. amazing, huh?

Thats..mmmm..grabbing my old RAZR now...lol

Id like to see if anyone else can do this without getting caught. thats awesome news... if this is true!~
15 bucks!????

slapdaddy said:
Thats..mmmm..grabbing my old RAZR now...lol
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hahahah have fun. just be like i dropped my phone and it broke
systematicdecline said:
Id like to see if anyone else can do this without getting caught. thats awesome news... if this is true!~
15 bucks!????
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lol no, $10 if you're on a $30 unlimited family plan

I'm still on a "smartphone unlimited" plan from when I bought my first Moto MPx200 - $10/mo. I called once (when I had my 3125) to see if there were other plan options and the CSR said "oh, I don't think the plan you have covers your phone, we offer this $30 plan" and (oops) we got disconnected. I'm still paying $10/mo for the smartphone plan with my Fuze. I just bought my wife a Samsung Epix and added a $10 "family unlimited" data plan to her line with her SIM in her old Samsung SYNC. Unless I rock the boat, we're going to keep getting two lines of data for $10 less than one line would cost at their "PDA" level. Seems ridiculous - nobody can do over 5GB/mo anyways...

hyachts said:
I'm still on a "smartphone unlimited" plan from when I bought my first Moto MPx200 - $10/mo. I called once (when I had my 3125) to see if there were other plan options and the CSR said "oh, I don't think the plan you have covers your phone, we offer this $30 plan" and (oops) we got disconnected. I'm still paying $10/mo for the smartphone plan with my Fuze. I just bought my wife a Samsung Epix and added a $10 "family unlimited" data plan to her line with her SIM in her old Samsung SYNC. Unless I rock the boat, we're going to keep getting two lines of data for $10 less than one line would cost at their "PDA" level. Seems ridiculous - nobody can do over 5GB/mo anyways...
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hah unless you tether...then torrent

AT&T
Oh boy, did I hate AT&T when I was with them. I used to have a Samsung Blackjack II, which is a SmartPhone. I added the SmartPhone unlimited data plan, I guess it was $15 a month, and once when I had to call about some bogus charges the rep said "Oh, I see you have a Blackjack II, that is a PDA not a smartphone, let me adjust you to the right data plan". Well, of course I argued with her for a few then just flat out told her she better not touch my account other than to deal with the bogus charges or my entire family will be canceling their service immediately. It wasn't a threat, it was a warning. I was on a family plan with my mom and pops, and my mom will pretty much do anything I recommend in the tech world.
Well, a few months ago, I got fed up to the gills with them and we canceled the account and all 5 phones on it and switched to MetroPCS and haven't looked back. I am now trying to convert any AT&T subscriber I see, not just to Metro, but to ANYONE else. I am doing my part to try to hurt AT&T. Down with them!

Tekzel said:
Oh boy, did I hate AT&T when I was with them. I used to have a Samsung Blackjack II, which is a SmartPhone. I added the SmartPhone unlimited data plan, I guess it was $15 a month, and once when I had to call about some bogus charges the rep said "Oh, I see you have a Blackjack II, that is a PDA not a smartphone, let me adjust you to the right data plan". Well, of course I argued with her for a few then just flat out told her she better not touch my account other than to deal with the bogus charges or my entire family will be canceling their service immediately. It wasn't a threat, it was a warning. I was on a family plan with my mom and pops, and my mom will pretty much do anything I recommend in the tech world.
Well, a few months ago, I got fed up to the gills with them and we canceled the account and all 5 phones on it and switched to MetroPCS and haven't looked back. I am now trying to convert any AT&T subscriber I see, not just to Metro, but to ANYONE else. I am doing my part to try to hurt AT&T. Down with them!
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...down with all ridiculously overcharging terrible and evil carriers! Damn them all!

I've Just ordered an XDA Flint

Hi All,
I took the plunge today and ordered myself an XDA Flint!!!
I'm looking forward to receiving it in a few days!
Does anyone have any tips/advice/info etc on the device?
Any/All info greatly appreciated!
Thanks
Alex

Main tip is just to play with it for a while and get used to it!
The O2 ROM is pretty good (though Michy's is better!) and remember that changing the ROM will invalidate any warranty with O2.
O2 don't supply any sort of front end (HTC Home, Mobile Shell or PointUI) so you are free to install whatever suits you. In fact the O2 ROM is very basic indeed, which does have the benefit of saving memory!

You managed to order it straight from the O2 online shop?
I got told that the XDA Flint wasn't available anymore... :|

NeilM said:
Main tip is just to play with it for a while and get used to it!
The O2 ROM is pretty good (though Michy's is better!) and remember that changing the ROM will invalidate any warranty with O2.
O2 don't supply any sort of front end (HTC Home, Mobile Shell or PointUI) so you are free to install whatever suits you. In fact the O2 ROM is very basic indeed, which does have the benefit of saving memory!
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I'm sure I will waste hours of my life playing with the device when it arrives!!
This will be my second XDA, but my 4th HTC device so I'm used to the basic O2 ROMs!
I think I will stick with the standard ROM until it is out of warranty then flash it with a new from from here! - I've recently flashed my Tytn2 and the ROMs from here are excellent!
incredulous said:
You managed to order it straight from the O2 online shop?
I got told that the XDA Flint wasn't available anymore... :|
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I had some trouble getting hold of one!
I have had to migrate my O2 consumer tariff to a Business tariff in order to get one! - The are ONLY available on business tariffs! I ordered it this week!

They will give it you on a consumer contract, you just need to hastle them into it.
I had a high level complaint open with them for over a month, in the end they gave me the Flint on a £35 a month contract 750mins 300text and insurance.
just a one off fee of £99.
I was happy with that, but i cant state how how hard it was to get this device.

embassy said:
They will give it you on a consumer contract, you just need to hastle them into it.
I had a high level complaint open with them for over a month, in the end they gave me the Flint on a £35 a month contract 750mins 300text and insurance.
just a one off fee of £99.
I was happy with that, but i cant state how how hard it was to get this device.
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I have been migrated onto a business tariff, 300 mins, All O2 to O2 calls free, Free calls to 10 nominated landline numbers, Unlimited texts, 200mb data. for £30 per month, 1 off fee of £99 and a free bluetooth headset! 24 month contract but with another free upgrade after 12 months!
Didn't have any hassle either!!

Get the unlimited data bolt-on asap!, as soon as you start using it to its potential 200mb will be gone rather fast.
Exchange Email is ofc a must have.
You have to try Pocket Lemmings on this device, it owns best game for pda ever!
I started trying to get mine in Nov 2008, this is why I had so much hastle. No one at O2 had any idea what this device was, I kept getting told different things every time I called in. You know how call centres work its quick call turn around, I was getting fobbed off left right and centre so I complained and only managed to get one because at the time it didn’t say it was for Business customers only.
I finally got mine in Jan 09. After many, many calls.
Mines on a 18month contract, and was in effect a upgrade so my 5+ years with o2 as a direct customer is unbroken, I hope they made you aware that as you migrated to business it’s the same as starting a new account so you won’t be eligible for promotions to long standing customer.

am i getting a good deal here?

Hi just wanted some experts opinions on if this a good deal?
currently i pay £10 for 600 mins, unlimited text, 1GB internet and unlimited virgin to virgin (30 day rolling contract)
i need a new phone to make use of my internet, so i rang up virgin.....
i need an android phone, after doing some research this suits me best.
they have offered me a HTC DESIRE S for basically £14 per month on the same contract as before.
so over 2 years i will pay £96 extra for the phone.
this new deal ties me into a 24 month contract also....
what do people think, is this good? good phone etc?
i need a phone that is really good for surfing, can load pages fast, has big display screen, making surfing easier. do you think this os a good phone for that and a good price/deal?
thanks

How much in the UK?

Hi All
I am now due an upgrade on my Desire, and was going to go for the HTC One S. O2 however want £36 a month, for 600 minutes, 1gd data and unlimited texts, so i was wondering what people are paying for it over here?
Cheers

Go to the vodafone eforum and do it that way you get much better deals! Or just contact them through twitter just look for vodafone UK deals
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Go to mobiles(.)co(.)uk, chose HTC One S -> T-Mobile -> Show All and you can find this deal:
Line Rental £26.00 monthly with cashback(7 Months Free) Includes 750MB data allowance , 300 Minutes , Unlimited Texts
Plus you can get an extra £60 cashback if you go to quidco(.)com, register, search for mobiles(.)co(.)uk, click on the link and complete your order.
All that will bring your average cost per month down to £15.92 with a free phone, 300 mins, unlimited texts and 750mb of data

phones4u is currently doing £27 24month contract on O2, 300mins, 500Mb data, also doing £26 24 month on vodafone 300mins, 500Mb data. But phone free, and SIM free, unbranded as I was told yesterday when I was in one of their shops playing around the one s. (oh yes, the deals only available online but I think that's better cos you have the 14days cooling period which in store you don't get it)
I am planning to get the o2 deal since always on o2 but just waiting to decide which colour to go for... just cannot decide...

i really need 1gb of data! i am going for the grey, just to get away from the black ones chipping whilst those phones are still in circulation!
Cheers all.

Three are by far the best. Just changed to them and their signal and 3G speed is great! When tethered to my PC using wifi and the three networks 3G on speed test I get 56ping, 8/9mb Download, 2.5mb upload.
The deal I went for was Unlimited Data, 1000mins, 5000 texts for £33 a month with £60 credit spread over 3rd and 4th bill.

3 have come a long way...
I used to hate them, They where horribly branded, and removing the simlock was almost impossible, compared to other networks.
But they are at the top for smartphone deals, The internet deals they offer + the speed is almost unbeatable.

azzledazzle said:
3 have come a long way...
I used to hate them, They where horribly branded, and removing the simlock was almost impossible, compared to other networks.
But they are at the top for smartphone deals, The internet deals they offer + the speed is almost unbeatable.
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I totally. I remmember their first proprietary handsets and they were nasty cheap plastic... Do you remember those £11 3 phones from Savers? The advertising used to get right on my nerves too, and the support was aweful. I came back to them in 2010 for the One Plan and haven't been more impressed with a carrier since.
Support is also top notch, never have to wait in a queue and like you say, the speeds are the best around...
I don't want to sound like I'm advertising them, but they really have turned a new leaf in terms of service and reliability.. As well as the fact they don't put their fugly logo on every phone I buy anymore

Have been with ThreeUK for 4 years, had to cancel my contract this month, as I moved to a new place and don't have any signal indoors what-so-ever. I also found their customer support very useless to help me solve my problem, but had no problems in past to get a good deal for upgrade.
Now I'm with T-mo and my phone arriving tomorrow

nozzla said:
Hi All
I am now due an upgrade on my Desire, and was going to go for the HTC One S. O2 however want £36 a month, for 600 minutes, 1gd data and unlimited texts, so i was wondering what people are paying for it over here?
Cheers
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I'm on that tariff but I pay £32 a month as I've been an O2 customer a while so I got 1gb for the price of 500mb (£6). They also threw in 50mms messages a month. I also get 500 o2 to o2 minutes and since almost all of my friends and family are on o2 it works out well. If you've been with them a while give them a call and see what they say. 2 years ago I had a similar situation and I just asked and got 2 extras just like that (unlimited o2 to o2 calls and 500mb bolt on, both for free). If not that 3 deal that someone mentioned for £33 seems like a steal. Phone was free on o2 btw.

ccart said:
I'm on that tariff but I pay £32 a month as I've been an O2 customer a while so I got 1gb for the price of 500mb (£6). They also threw in 50mms messages a month. I also get 500 o2 to o2 minutes and since almost all of my friends and family are on o2 it works out well. If you've been with them a while give them a call and see what they say. 2 years ago I had a similar situation and I just asked and got 2 extras just like that (unlimited o2 to o2 calls and 500mb bolt on, both for free). If not that 3 deal that someone mentioned for £33 seems like a steal. Phone was free on o2 btw.
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I've been with O2 for 12 years on the same number and they will offer me nothing!!
I might just for the ease go with O2. or i will buy the phone and get a giffgaff sim card!

nozzla said:
I've been with O2 for 12 years on the same number and they will offer me nothing!!
I might just for the ease go with O2. or i will buy the phone and get a giffgaff sim card!
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Wow thats shocking! I've only been with them 5 years and even then this is the most expensive tariff I've ever taken out with them...usually I was a SIM only customer (£15 a month). I go on their live chat thing and ask what are my options are and I usually get someone saying 'well since you've been with us a while' etc etc. Maybe try your luck and say you've been with them 12 years and you want this phone but that tariff is too expensive and competitors are cheaper and you may have to leave. They seem to value customers so could offer you a loyalty discount (and yes they do this cause my account has a bolt on thingy saying 'Loyalty Discount, -£4'). I have half a mine to ask them to knock another few ££ off for those 50mms messages cause they will NEVER get used lol.

If you have been with your provider for quite a while, then try and call their cancellation line and request your PAC code, they will offer you a really good deal just to keep you with them, but if you deny all their offers and go away with the PAC code, wait for another call... with the best deal possible

got pac code. no further calls. sod them! i've gone with the Three UK deal. 500 minutes, unlimited data and texts. £32 a month. O2 have disappointed me to say the least!
EDIT: Thanks for all your advice!

Why no one commented on the deal that I found?
Is it because of T-Mobile or 300 minutes is not enough?
I have never used T-Mo, so I'm curious a little bit now

I'm on Orange panther 31. As it suggests, £31 with 400 mins, unlimited texts and 750mb data though CPW. Also includes free sky sports on the phone and another one of those swappable things.
I also get 15% loyalty discount for staying with them so works out at £26 odd coupled with roaming data access to T-Mobile I'm very rarely without H connection.
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whats this roaming data ?? How do you use tmobile when your with orange ?
Id like to know more about this, because with vodafone the 3g signal is non existent where i live, But tmobile have excellent 3g signal (my GF is with them)

Basically, if you're on Orange (my carrier) or T Mobile you can use either network for phone and data. Mine seems to spend more time on T Mobile than Orange but either way, coverage is great it automatically picks the best one I think.
You also can manually move to either via network selection if you prefer.
Plus orange do that loyalty discount too.
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I personaly dont understand, why u all look for "carrier" phones with monthly payment...
Isnt there any "local" internet shops (similar to ebay/amazon) where you can buy? Here there is planty of them! Choose the one u like or the price u like and go ahead!
You can see some of search results here "http://www.salidzini.lv/search.php?q=htc+one" But ofc, these shops dont send outside Latvia, so its not option for thread author

cookpass said:
Basically, if you're on Orange (my carrier) or T Mobile you can use either network for phone and data. Mine seems to spend more time on T Mobile than Orange but either way, coverage is great it automatically picks the best one I think.
You also can manually move to either via network selection if you prefer.
Plus orange do that loyalty discount too.
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Ohhh i know what you mean now, Orange and Tmobile joined up last year..
I just thought you mean, if you internet connection is crap you could use someone else network lol
Like I (vodafone) could use... say 3 UK network when my 3g network fails.... haha that would be impressive