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Greetings,
I just upgraded to the 2.02.00 ROM last night but still have the occassional lockups. I need to do a soft reboot to get the phone to respond. I believe when it locks up, the radio is still running since I see the blinking Green LED for the GSM. I have to switch off the POWER MANAGEMENT option of "Turn off in x min in not used" for battery power to be able to use the device for calls. The only level of battery saving I am stuck with now is the Backlight auto-off and the beam settings.
Is this something others are having as well or are any applications the culprit?
Thanks in advance for your assistance.
Regards
BHAMEED
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Windiws Mobile 6 (CROSSBOW)Jwright
OS 5.2.318 (Build 15341.0.0.0) AKU 0.0
CE ROM Version : (2.02.00 WWE)
RADIO Version : 1.13.00
ExtROM Version : (2.03.05 WWE) UNLOCKED
Bootloader Version : ver 2.01
Try the power button
All buttons..including the power button...no response.
try holding down the power button
or setting the backlight to atleast one notch.
Urm... uh... ah.... eeee... aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh.
I can confirm this behavior on my MDA Pro (G3).
All ROM versions the same like Bhameed's on my MDA, ...except bootloader of course.
Anyone else noticed this on 2.02.00?
Hold on, can you guys be more specific with this? Are you absolutely sure it doesn't come back on when you PRESS AND HOLD the power button??? Really sorry if I sound like I'm being pedantic, but just from what you've written it sounds like you don't know how to turn on the phone???
hahahaHAHAHA!!! awesome reply spyder
ok, yeah i was thinking this is an issue of not being able to turn on your phone.
yeah what's going on that was different from before?
There have been only few moments where you think "Surely not"... I hate those moments, I'm just hoping this isn't one of them! If it is a genuine problem it's pretty serious and needs to be addressed, but if not.... well, I don't think I should say much more
Please please please say this is all a big joke. I'm tired, please excuse me.
I confirm this behaviour!
And more!
My Qtek freezes... freezes... and then PUFFF. Dead.
I wait some minutes (30 minutes) and I can turn it on again.
I'll send it to qtek.
Mine has a thing sometimes where there will be a pause between pressing the power button and it coming to life... sometimes if I get impatient and press the power button again it will turn it back off before it's come on.
I don't really get it though. Does it freeze while it's still on, or while it's turned off? If it freezes when on, there's plenty of info about how to prevent freezes (mostly 3rd party apps + reg tweaks).
If it really does freeze when off, then please let us know anything more on the issue that you can.
SpyderTracks said:
Mine has a thing sometimes where there will be a pause between pressing the power button and it coming to life... sometimes if I get impatient and press the power button again it will turn it back off before it's come on.
I don't really get it though. Does it freeze while it's still on, or while it's turned off? If it freezes when on, there's plenty of info about how to prevent freezes (mostly 3rd party apps + reg tweaks).
If it really does freeze when off, then please let us know anything more on the issue that you can.
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Mine freezes everywhere. Bootscreen, Pin code menu (when u type your pin). It depends.
then pda doesn't turn on.
Many problems.
Just go to the assistance. :\
1.Sometimes it freezes while its on. For Instance I had program opened and then whenI tried pressing X to close nothing happened. I had to use the red hardware button to close. Wonder why.
2.I too agree while the phone boots and is searching for network, it takes very long, Meanwhile when the pin enter screen come up, unless the network is fully searched one cannot enter the sim pin code, it has few freezes. or at time the phone signal icon disappears on top bar and again you need to reset the phone.
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1.Sometimes it freezes while its on. For Instance I had program opened and then whenI tried pressing X to close nothing happened. I had to use the red hardware button to close. Wonder why.
2.I too agree while the phone boots and is searching for network, it takes very long, Meanwhile when the pin enter screen come up, unless the network is fully searched one cannot enter the sim pin code, it has few freezes. or at time the phone signal icon disappears on top bar and again you need to reset the phone.
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Again, I don't have this problem for some reason... I get very few freezes at all.
I think we're getting away from the original point of the post though... and normal freezing is well documented in most OS threads with means to prevent it.
Same here...Confirmed. Tried all button combinations to get the display back (short presses and long ones), but then end up having to do a soft-reboot to finally get the phone to work properly....
Bhameed said:
Same here...Confirmed. Tried all button combinations to get the display back (short presses and long ones), but then end up having to do a soft-reboot to finally get the phone to work properly....
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And then you don't have other problems? Like freezes?
EDIT: I flash the original rom but the problem still here
I wonder if this could be a memory leak like someone suggested.... I'm sorry guys, I haven't experienced this problem, and I haven't seen any posts about it until this thread, is there any chance you guys with this issue can keep an eye over your memory status over say a couple of days to see if there's a leek and keep us posted? Once we find out what the problem is it should make a solution easier.
I experienced this problem as well using a cooked WM5 ROM on my HERM200 the only fix I found was migrating to another ROM. I'm currently using CUSTEL_Cing_v1.3, the battery life sucks but I love WM6, it is so much faster, I'm still tweaking and trying to resolve some other issues but other than that I am quite happy with it.
If you are experiencing the lockup I would suggest moving to another ROM as an option, that worked for me. Although a clean install usually fixes a lot of problems.
Hi,
My VOX sometimes gets shutdown automatically. It happens at least once in two days. And whenever it shutsdown, I can feel that the handset has become slightly hot. I need to remove the battery and put it back to turn on the phone again.
But one strange thing I noticed is that, if the bluetooth was on when the phone went down, I can see the bluelight blinking even when the phone seems to be shutdown.
Do you guys know what could be causing this?
My Radio Version is 4..13.41_02.88.90 and OS is 5.2.1236 (Build 17741.0.2.1)
Thanks pals!
Sounds like it's over-heating possibly? If the BT LED is blinking blue, then the device is still on, I think you have some software that is either causing it to run at full load or causing a soft reset.
hum, maybe this has something to do with the problem already reported in some posts of some VOX's
the screen goes black, but the phone remains on
normaly if you wait a couple of seconds, and try to mess with the phone again, it will be alright,
sometimes i even have to remove the battery
some say the problem could be overheating as u say, but until now, i havent found any solution for this, i also am facing the same problem
Same problem for me when turning on the Wifi, but the phone turns off completly and the battery showing empty after turning the phone on, I have to remove the battery each time!
But when it's connected, my phone runs perfectly.
Maybe I have to change my battery, no?
I don't think in my case the phone is on (except for BT light blinking). Otherwise it should be in a big hung state where it is not able to respond to keyboards, power key or any interface at all.
Next time I encounter this problem, I will try calling my own number to see whether the radio is on.
I have been using this vox since last 8 months, but in the last couple of months I have encountered quite a lot of problems like radio repeatedly getting turned off, first call after restart hanging (not consistent but happens most of the time I restart the phone and try to make calls with in the first 20 seconds after bootup) etc.
Do you think an upgrade 6.1 would do any good?
Thanks again!!
I was having that problem too. I tried upgrading to WM6.1 and upgrading the radio, nothing worked. I sent it in and they replaced the mainboard, but now it seems to be worse. I just got it back though, so I haven't called them about it yet. I'm just looking around to see if it could be a battery issue.
My phone restart issue was mainly a hardware or loose contact issue. Once the phone fell down and after that whenever there was a long press on 0, * or # keys, the phone would restart.
After two days my phone fell down once again from my hand and this issue got resolved forever. Lucky me!
My S710 HTC original, shut down every day at 00.16. In the past was at 02.46, and I discover it since during my trip in asia I found the phone off.
More over the alarm is not reliable and cannot be used for this reason.
The following application are installed:
- Customisation from HTC for my operator TIM
- microsoft Office mobile upt
- pmCleanSP
- spWZTools
- Skype
- Tom Tom
HTC service told me to flash it with Rom update.
Any suggestions?
Thanks
Hi guys,
I just recently got hold of an HTC Touch Cruise but the O2 XDA Orbit 2 rebranded version.
Ive been installing a few useful apps on this but some of the changes i make are lost after the phone has beeen switched off and then on!
Examples of this are the "hide sim" reg edit and the PCM keyboard as the default.
I am assuming that maybe the O2 version of WM6 on this is locked to prevent making these changes.
First, if anyone can confirm this or if not tell how me how ot get round this problem i would be grateful.
If this is the case then i would like to flash the phone with an "editable" version of WM6, are these what the ROMS people mention on here are?
If i am right about the ROMS could anyone recommend a good ROM, if they are specific to anything, one that is more finger firendly rather than stylus would be about the only thing i can think of to specify.
I realise this is a bit cheeky asking for all this but i have had a brief of the forum but would perhaps jus tlike a few pointers if anyone can spare the time.
Many thanks
Hi,
If you are turning your phone off by holding the power button then when you turn it on again it will reboot to the ROM image and you will lose all of your installed programs and edits. Try turning it "off" with a brief press on the button, you shouldn't lose anything then. At least I don't.
AFIK the standard O2 ROM allows registry edits, however you cannot edit the ROM contents. You can install apps and they should be persistent unless you do a full power down.
As for the question about ROMs, yes they are customised versions of WM6.1.
You MUST run USPL before trying to re-flash your ROM I suggest you read the upgrading forum there is a sticky there about USPL and loads of other threads about upgrading.
Personally I like ASergs and Bepes ROMs better than most. They are stable and have most of the apps I require.
Hope this helps, Good luck
Neil
Thanks so much for your reply and especially the promptness!!!
When i turn my phone off i have been holding the button at the top, i if i just press it shortly then all it does is powers the screen off. To be honest now i can get away without ever powering off since i charge every night.
If my phone freezes etc should i be using the reset button with the stylus to reboot - will this cause me to lose my edits?
Also if i used one of the customised ROMS is it still the same if i turn the phone completley off that i lose any settings?
I will give the upgrade thread now to gain better understanding, thanks again.
Guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=381600
neila said:
Hi,
If you are turning your phone off by holding the power button then when you turn it on again it will reboot to the ROM image and you will lose all of your installed programs and edits. Try turning it "off" with a brief press on the button, you shouldn't lose anything then. At least I don't.
Neil
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What?
Turning it off will cause a hard reset or what exactly do you mean?
neila said:
Hi,
If you are turning your phone off by holding the power button then when you turn it on again it will reboot to the ROM image and you will lose all of your installed programs and edits. Try turning it "off" with a brief press on the button, you shouldn't lose anything then. At least I don't.
AFIK the standard O2 ROM allows registry edits, however you cannot edit the ROM contents. You can install apps and they should be persistent unless you do a full power down.
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I'm sorry to inform you that it should not be behaving that way, and if it does, your phone is most probably broken.
If you mean Hard-Resetting, your phone does not hard-reset when pressing and holding the power button. you'll have to do a combination of other buttons and the soft-reset button to accomplish that.
Oops, Sorry about that! I had total brain failure!
Of course turning the device off by holding the power button does not cause a hard reset.
My apologies for any confusion caused.
Cheers
Neil
Ok, on my device (which is actually an O2 Xda orbit 2, if that makes any difference) When i press the powerbutton once shortly it turns off the screen but all things are still running on the phone eg calls will still come in and alarms, sms etc.
If i press and hold the button the phone switches off completley but then when i turn back on after this i find some stuff has not saved how i expect. Installed apps still remain but things like default keyboard and my hide sim reg change revert.
When you hold down the power button at least on the TC, it asks whether you want to power off, presumably yours isn't asking you and just turns off anyway.
When stuff that you expect to be saved but isn't, like the default keyboard. Do you use sip changer or something like that? If I am using PocketCM keyboard for example and reset my device it defaults back to the Cruise/Diamond keyboard and I have to set PocketCM again. If you use something like a SIP Changer it will set it for you.
So that sounds like configuration things and not necessarily strange behavior.
Hi
Unless I'm actively using it my TP keeps turns itself off after 30 seconds no matter what power settings I use (and despite a factory reset and SPB restore). This isn't too much of an issue, except when I'm trying to use GPS/Satnav (TT7) whilst driving, where turning itself off is a real pain.
Could anyone please suggest how this issue can be resolved?
Many thanks in advance...
Is it physically turning off, requiring you to press the on key, let it reboot, or,
is it going to sleep, and you press the on key to wake it up?
If it is the latter, go to start>settings>system>power, click on the
advanced tab and change the backlight & power off settings there.
If it actually turning off, sounds like it might be a defective phone.
Thanks for your reply!
I've repeatedly altered the power settings but it makes no difference at all, if I set it to turn off at any given time (or not at all) it'll still turn off after 30 seconds. And to claify, it doesn't reboot, it just turns the screen off. It *feels* like a software issue, because it'll stay working forver as long as I tap the screen occasionally, something somewhere just counts down 30 seconds if i don't and turns off the screen...
The max time you can put on it is 5 min. The default setting out of the box is 30 seconds --which sound like what you currently have.
Set the "On Battery Power: Turn off backlight if device is not used for xxx MIN). Make sure first that that's checked, and select the drop down.
Eventually --to conserve battery power--, it will 'sleep'.
Your NAVIGATION software should have a setting to over-ride this to NEVER TURN OFF DISPLAY WHILE NAVIGATION.
Aside from that, there is no other way to keep the backlight on --unless it's plugged into a power outlet.
Many thanks again for your reply; As I mentioned previously I've already changed the power settings settings (frequently) and I'm definitely not on the 30-second default, no setting appears to make any difference, be it 5 minutes or 'never turn off'. It also happens when the 'phone is plugged into a power source too.
(And I have got the 'don't turn off whilst navigating' box ticked for the satnav but the issue applies generally, not just to the satnav, that's just where it's most irritating).
Is there any possibility something has changed in the registry to over-ride the control panel settings in this way?
How about doing a hard reset and not doing a spb restore? You realize that all you did when you restored the phone was restore the bug, right?
Edit: I doubt it will work, but you can try the backlight cab. It will restore all the stock backlight reg settings if yours are messed up.
timpollard said:
Hi
Unless I'm actively using it my TP keeps turns itself off after 30 seconds no matter what power settings I use (and despite a factory reset and SPB restore). This isn't too much of an issue, except when I'm trying to use GPS/Satnav (TT7) whilst driving, where turning itself off is a real pain.
Could anyone please suggest how this issue can be resolved?
Many thanks in advance...
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Hi,
I have same problem as you. TP keeps turns itself off after 30 sec!!
And I am using TT7. So this problem is so annoying.
I tried hard resetting and install programs one by one. and check if TP is keeping backlight on or not. And I installed TT7 and worked perfect.( display is always on)
That was yesterday.
Today I was using TP, it happened again.
The registry setting is still 3min on battery, uncheck on AC power.
30 sec problem happens both status.
This thing did not happen before Raphael_Cingular_US_5.11.502.2_Radio_Sign.
TP worked fine for a while on this radio.
Now even I check " NEVER TURN OFF DISPLAY WHILE NAVIGATION" box in some apps. TP turn off backlight.
I tried backlight.cab, that did not work and still turning off.
(thanks anyway )
ATT Fuze
Raphael_Cingular_US_5.11.502.2_Radio_Sign
Added Japanese IME
Resco Explorer, regedit
Resco Today Plugin
Spb time, Today plugin
TT7
TomTom 7 - v7.910.9185
I will try hard reset again.
Somebody please help us out.
Did you try the cab? If that doesn't work, just flash another rom.
I am also having this problem. I did get it to stop once by going in to the registry and actually editing it. But it started to do it again after a wile. I am trying it again today and see if it work. I am using a trial version of BestRegEdit and was wonder if it could have changed it back because it was a trial. So if some one elce wants to give it a shot it us under HKey_Current_user\ControlPanel\Power\Display and you will change that 30 to what ever amount of time you want. I pick 0 because i never want it to turn off. Hope this helps Oyeah, does anyone know of a free resitry editor? This is my last day on the BestRegEdit Thanks
Uh, total commander, regedit, dotfred's task manager and probably a few more.
Farmer Ted said:
Did you try the cab? If that doesn't work, just flash another rom.
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Thanx,
I tried cab, and did not work. So I installed test rom and works fine now. NO 30 seconds backlight off now.
[March 1st] New ATT test rom Radio 1.12.25.19 OS AKU 1.4.6 Build 20771
I will use this until new "Signed" and Works Ok radio comes.
* Recently I use resco explorer and regedit addon. Free app: regedit.Mrln works fine, I think. I have been using these for keyboard layout section.
Glad you solved it, I had an interesting problem, similar to the screen issue, wonder it it might be related. I flashed to a new rom over the weekend, and no matter what I did, the backlight would turn off after 10 seconds. You could reset it to 30 in the power profile, but after a reboot, it would revert back to 10 seconds. Reflahsed it, and after the flash, when it starts loading the customizations, it would freeze. Flashed again, and it hung at customization again! Downloaded the rom again, deleted the old one, and flashed and it worked and the backlight would stay put!
Maybe the one you downloaded was corrupt?
Anyway, glad you got it working.
P.S. The rom isn't an "official" that I downloaded, it was one of the 6.5 that the cooks on the rom page whipped up. I think it was just a corrupted download.
This issue has happened to me a few times. even while i'm still using the phone and typing the screen goes off.
very annoying.
I found it only happened to me using EnergyROM. when I flashed to a different rom the problem was solved.
recently I flashed back to the newest version of EnergyROM again (after the previous ROM decided to hard reset all by itself) and this issue happened again in the first hour!
I really wish I could find a usable ROM for once and for all
My Case: WMWifiRouter was it!
This happend even when TP under Test rom env. I just gave up and installed latest version cause this ver is less stressfull.
Luckly 30 sec issue did not happend for a while until I installed WMWifiRouter.
Just after I install V1.50 30 sec thing and happend.
KB0907027: [BUG] v1.50 backlight timeout issue
http://support.wmwifirouter.com/knowledge/KB0907027/
I Installed V1.52 and now works fine and no backlight problem.
If you installed WMWifirouter check the link.
I use EnergyROM as well and i noticed that right after a fresh flash, if you tried to modify certain settings using the gui (i.e. alarm times, connection settings etc) they wouldnt stick - perhaps a direct registry edit using one of the tools previously mentioned might force the device to remember the changes? this worked for me when i had trouble with my alarm times not being saved.
ive also heard that sometimes a soft-reset isnt enough to commit changes to the registry - i.e. once making a reg edit, cold boot the device - that is press and hold the power button and turn it entirely off.
hope this helps
Hi guys, I find this quite annoying and wish there is a mod for this. I don't know about other HTC Touch Pro owners but i find my fone quite sensitive.........it's "EASILY" turned on by a single "SHORT" press of the power button.
I didn't even hold it for 1 second, if i suddenly press or tap on it really quick, for not even a second, it turns on.
In case ppl don't understand and tell me that maybe my fone was on in the first place but just have the backlight off, and with a single tap on the power button, the backlight goes back on again. I knew that already. But what the problem really is, is that it's totally off, and when i tap the power on button, it turns on, i.e it vibrates and shows the welcome screen and all that other startup animation.
Is there a way to increase the delay of the finger-press on the power button? Coz it's so annoying that it gets turned on when i don't want it to, especially since this fone's weakness is that it hogs battery even though i've already applied tons of tweaks etc to lower the performance and increase battery life......
Oh and i have another problem, i find the signal kinda weak, is there a program or tweak to increase the signal?? Coz on my old phone Sony Ericsson W950i, the signal is great and I never have bad signal problems with it. But using HTC Touch Pro, i have this problem. This only happens when i'm at Uni, but it's not like they have bad reception or signal blockers there like how schools or colleges have. Just that when i'm inside buildings and there're tons of other buildings around, i can't send the txt coz of bad signals and it's bloody annoying, but using my W950i works fine.....
also I noticed that when i type a txt message using the hardware keyboard, it seems to fail to send most of the time, but only when i'm in UNI. But if i switch to the software keyboard, the one that you use ur fingers or stylus, then when i send the message it often works compare to using hardware keyboard.......any ideas?
Problem No 1: Try Touch Lock Pro
Problem No 2: Try to burn the newest RadioROM.
thx but i'm not trying to lock my phone, so i don't think TouchLock Pro is what i need.......
My Raphael turns also on after pressing the power button for a little few moment. With touchlock Pro you can prevent that you mistake your Raphael. I hope you can understand what I write in my "own" english
Ok so i've got it installed now and went through all the settings but couldn't find anything that can delay the power-on button press, I still have this problem. The app is a screen-lock app, there aren't any options regarding to power-on delays.......
plz tell me what settings etc to use.
I've never said that you can fix your problem with TouchLock Pro. With this you prevent to use your Raphael when you press your power button accidentally.
ya but that's only useful when my fone is on and it locks the phone but i'm trying to prevent my fone from turning on in the first place if i accidentally press the power on button for not even 1 second, because then it will turn on and i don't want that.
same problem here...the phone I thought I had turned off was back on, because accidently it got touched by something else in my luggage.
The only solution which to me is unsatisfactory, is to take out the battery so that it cannot power up.
C'mon...there has to be a better solution than this, no???
jewelkobayashi said:
same problem here...the phone I thought I had turned off was back on, because accidently it got touched by something else in my luggage.
The only solution which to me is unsatisfactory, is to take out the battery so that it cannot power up.
C'mon...there has to be a better solution than this, no???
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wow yay finally someone else other than me also report having the same problem, boy am i glad to know that i'm not the only one having this problem, i thought it was just something wrong with my fone and not all HTC Touch Pros....
i can't believe there aren't any results on Google, no forum discussions or solutions to this whatsoever. Also, nobody seemed to report this problem or come up with a solution on XDA as well as other forums i use like PPCgeekz or WMusers etc.........which is odd considering how this problem is quite annoying, that if u suddenly power on the fone by accident, it can drain battery life and god knows HTC Touch Pro has a crap battery life.............
I think that htc has done a bad job testing the powerbutton on the tp2.
There are some other things like weith, thikness and batterylife that could be improved but the powerbutton issue is realy a BIG bug.
Why they didn't make a slidebutton or a timeout between push and activation?
A dobble tap on the powerbutton could also be a solution.
The next rom shoold have a improvement about this button.
People, please react on the powerbutten problem so someone can fix this.
Thanx
jewelkobayashi said:
same problem here...the phone I thought I had turned off was back on, because accidently it got touched by something else in my luggage.
The only solution which to me is unsatisfactory, is to take out the battery so that it cannot power up.
C'mon...there has to be a better solution than this, no???
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Leaving the Touch Pro (Raphael) for some minutes without battery will stop the clock. So, when you put back on the battery and power up the device, the clock will display the wrong time. The time when you remove the battery.
This is hardware related.
Can produced different symptoms though.
Facts Behind the Power Button
If take a look at the inside of the powerbutton, there are 2 points making contact when you press the button. If you press it, the software will recognize this and the screen will turn off.
If you press it long enough you'll get the "QuickShutdown" message.
But, if water/alchohol/liquid gets underneath the button, the 2 points may be making contact, because water/alcohol conducts.
The button is very weak. Due to this, it may not properly work if you have used it for a long time.
As a result, despite the fact that you hit hibernate/sleep/suspend on the hardware power button = yes, the screen fades to black. But IT IS STILL ON. That explains the battery being drained.
Solution:
Open the phone hardware. Clean the power button connector manually.
Disassembling Instructions:http://www.pdacenter.ru/razborka/htc-touch-pro/
Power Button Connector: http://kudryashovda.ru/content/ne-rabotaet-knopka-vklyucheniya-na-htc-diamond
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i heart everyone talking about the sleep of death and to be honest, i havent really experienced this, but i definatley do have an intermitent power on and off button problem on my touch pro 2.
i read on some other forum that it could possibly be the slider that is casuing the problem. but to be honest, the button its self feels fine and looks fineand when i does work it works a treat. i havent had any water damage done to it what so ever. so im not sure , i am new too all this self help mobile stuff. so please excuse my ignorance. Ive doen the usual hard reset, button works for a few hours then calls it a day. soft rest, was working up until this week. i cant get ot to boot up again, while fiddling with the batter and a power lead. but the power button is so intermitent its driving me nuts. id be so grateful if anyone could shine any form of light on this. thanks in advance