Database Info

*The* TyTN v1605 problems post...

Hi all,
Figured I should start a post with problems (in the quest for solutions).
I have had my v1605 from Vodafon for 3 days now and have found a few problems already. I have a replacement coming on Tue so will see what is fixed...
So far:
- keyboard back lights not working, matters not if the sensor is active or not. Vodafone replacing the unit as a result.
- some keys on the far right seem unsensitive - I keep missing O, P and L from my typing. The keys do work though...maybe it is just me.
- screen alignment wanders and as such I usually need to re-align the screen once a day or more. Seems always to drift left and slight lower than I am pressing.
- today screen items are locked and 'vodafoned', very annoying as I cannot show task list, owner info or lock status on the today screen. I hard reset the unit and reset it before the customisation happened and voila - the usual today screen items were back - but as a result I lost the vodafone dialer skin and the 3G symbol. I presume someone can ROM-hack to get rid of this restriction and look forward to it In fact, it would be perfect if the ONLY Vodafone customisations were the dialler skin, 3G symbol and theme.
- If you have a password set and hard-reset the unit it crashes when you are prompted for the password. Soft resetting it then skips the vodafone customisation.
- left softkey set to phone instead of calendar and no way to change it.
- no easy way to access Vodafone Live!
- camera quality pretty poor for a 2MP, no where near as good as the K750i for example. However, the K750i on its first firmware was pretty aweful too!
- when plugged into USB on computer - if you turn it off (so as just to charge) it will turn itself back on again shortly and commence another sync.
Other than these niggles, of which the today screen is the biggest for me, I love the TyTN. By far the best PDA/Phone I have owned to date!
So - over to you guys, does your v1605 have these issues or others, or none????
Rich

My slide out keyboard down't click into place on the left side the way the right does (and also the way the wizard does). It may not be a problem now but in the future, it may begin to wear and then it might affect the function of the keys??
Are they just swapping a unit for you or exchanging the whole package? How will you know if you get a brand new set? When I switched mine on, the call timers showed outgoing 40 seconds and incoming 45 seconds. I'm not sure if this is vodafone testing the units or it's not new.

Am told I am getting a brand new unit - will check call timers as they *should* be 0-0.
Just had a play with mine and I only feel a click on the right side of the keyboard too. Feels nice and solid once it is out though - not like the xda-mini-s which feels flimsy in comparison.
R

I do not see the "E" icon even in EDGE enabled areas. I even tried the HTC Wizard icon hack hack with no success:
http://www.htcwizardweb.net/node/191

'E' appears on my v1605
3G is awesome.

rakh1 said:
Just had a play with mine and I only feel a click on the right side of the keyboard too. Feels nice and solid once it is out though - not like the xda-mini-s which feels flimsy in comparison.
R
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thats great! was a bit worried that mine was a faulty unit. It does feel solid when sliding. It was just the lack of the "click" that bugged me.
Anyone else who received their unit had timers showing calls made and received from it? Its probably vodafone testing it. The unit is too new for any refunds/refurbs to have been made.

- some keys on the far right seem unsensitive - I keep missing O, P and L from my typing. The keys do work though...maybe it is just me.
My unit has this issue and I hope my next unit which is a brand new replacement that comes on Tuesday doesn't have this issue. My unit it is only the O that has problem which is getting better over time. I called them and they was more than happy to get a brand new unit to get sent out just want a perfect working one in my 14 day period so fingers crossed will keep you updated.

xxnoelziexx said:
- some keys on the far right seem unsensitive - I keep missing O, P and L from my typing. The keys do work though...maybe it is just me.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Do you also feel a click only on the right when you slide open the keyboard? Let us know how you get on with the new unit.

Don't feel no click at all. Will keep you all updated.

UPDATE:
New unit turned up - keyboard lights now work as expected.
Still only a right side click on the keybard - so it must just be the way it is.
Today items:
Fix posted here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=329204#329204
Hope that helps - Rich

Hi guys
Peter .. the guy that got his VPA Compact III two days after me as sent it back on the 14 day returns .... He was concerned about stability. He's always struggled to come to terms with WM stability which I can understand ... so he's off back to palm and blackberry.
From my point of view - I've had one hang during operations which still worries me (I left it at the today screen fine ... and 30 mins later I noticed backlight was completely off and it was utterly un responsive - wouldn't respond to incoming calls). It also hangs occassionally of soft reset or power on (from a complete power off). It usually comes up fine on a subsequent soft reset.
I'm waiting for HTC to call me back so I can raise this as a call. It seems to happen regardless of today plugins being active (I disabled all) - I have also rebuilt with 4 phases of Sprite Backup to restore from - and the problem hasn't gone away.
I suspect it is firmware / software as opposed to hardware .... fingers crossed.
Aside from that I love it as a device .... I just wish one of you guys that has one will let me know if you have had any hangs at all and where you see them.
My keyboard light works fine. It has to be in low light and you have to press a button before it activates - just opening the keyboard in low light doesn't activate it.
Occasionally I turn the device on and it starts in landscape mode and then switches to portrait ... odd .. because I didn't switch it off in landscape.
There is an odd moulding mark where the stylus comes out on the curved recessed part of the body (right hand side). I thought it may be a crack but I'm pretty sure it's just where the plastic moulding was finished before painting. If it's not cracked I'm not bothered.
You can change the WM5 softkeys with Tweaks2k2.
One thing to remember is that rather than use the phone executable, the device originally used a :MSC call. Once removed you can't put it back with Tweaks2k2. It's not an issue because a normal link to phone is fine. If you want Calendar ... then use Tweaks2k2 to change it.
My keyboard works fine ... no sticky keys. Peter had one or two on his.
Paul.

I just wish one of you guys that has one will let me know if you have had any hangs at all and where you see them.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No hangs here yet.....using it a lot with skype, camera, etc...
My keyboard light works fine. It has to be in low light and you have to press a button before it activates - just opening the keyboard in low light doesn't activate it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes - same here...
Occasionally I turn the device on and it starts in landscape mode and then switches to portrait ... odd .. because I didn't switch it off in landscape.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've not had this happen...
There is an odd moulding mark where the stylus comes out on the curved recessed part of the body
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Same here - but very feint....
Rich

Hi Rich
What are you running at the moment ?
I'm try to find out what is different between my build and yours so I can narrow down possible cause of hang.
Paul.

By the way ... my build is :
So far I have SBSH iLauncher, HandyMenu, HandSwitcher, Legato Mahjong, Billiard Master 3, Bubbleshooter, PDA Mill GameBox Classics, BeJewelled 2, 1-Calc, Phatnotes, PIEPlus, Avantgo, CO2005, Clearvue Office Pro, CPL6, FW2006, imov Messenger, NewsBreak, Resco Explorer (without the Resco Today Plugin) 5.40, Resco PhotoViewer, SBSH Pocket Breeze and Pocket Weather, Skype 2, Sprite 5.1, Tweaks2k2, PI2005, FlexMail 2.2, FlexWallet, Cabinstall, Cruxview - all installed on the MicroSD.
Aside from an apparent hang on startup last night which scared me .... I thought I'd need to hard reset but it eventually sorted itself out ... hopefully it is s/w related .... it's all going well. Did a video call with Peter last night which was fine ... first I've done and picture quality not great but usable.
3G is active and working very well. Switches mid call to 2.5g if signal drops to much, but you don't get a chattering issue (i.e. where it regularly switches between the two).
Drove from Hook to Kent with CPL6 and BT GPS yesterday and that was flawless.
Have four phases of Sprite Backup - Different levels of build - so I can decide how far back to go in the event of problems.
Circa 28 mg of program memory following sof reset
Circa 31 mg of storage memory
PB is loading PI Calendar / Tasks / Messaging / Phatnotes / Pocket Weather.

Can someone help me with my wifi problem please. I can get connected to my network ok but IE will not show any pages, it just says wrong settings. I am connected with good signal strengh and thought that i would be able to surf when on my own home network. Most of the time it serches gprs and 3g then shows the error. An idiots step through guide would be helpful. I have searched for hours but came up blank. I also need a walkthrough on how to configue vodafone MMS settings as I cant get that to work either. Customer services isnt much good as the dont really know this device yet. Thanks in advance.

Hey Paul,
I have only the followinig intalled over the base v1605:
skype2
PHM Registry Editor
Microsoft .NET CF 2.0
Aspecto Software WiFiFoFum
Handmark Monopoly
That's it......
Rich

new unit arrived and the sticking key issue is gone thank god. I hve a few things installed now and the phone is running great. I installed agile messenger beta a few minutes ago as no msn client is in the vodaphone rom and the phone looked like it crashed then a few moments later it signed into msn.
1 thing I have noticed is if I mute the volume so I get a x sign near the volune if I click around I.e start menu and click around the operating system I can hear a clicking noise. could someone else test this 4 me I am currently in a quiet room.
also noticed when using pie with keyboard slid out my view will sometimes change from landscape to portrait view and then back to normal which is strange. I am sure my faulty device did this whilst just using the operating system in general use. shed a bit of light to what I have just found is that I just put the phone down open on the case it comes with and the same thing happened it must have something to do with the magnetic metal in the case effecting the phone causing it to rotate lol well that's what I think.

No clicking sound when I mute mine. Haven't really played around with mine yet. Will install everything once I get my microsd card.
Does your phone's keyboard click into place when you slide it open and is it right side only or both? Also did you check your call timers? Are they zero or has calls been made before receiving it?

Just got my TyTN
and all i got was a lousy keyboard..
got the bad keys on my unit. Waiting for response from HTC distributor, but they halted all sales of it until resolved. There are a lot of phones with bad keyboard.
But apart from that it seems to work fine - like the Jasjar in a smaller package.
But I liked the keyboard on my I-mate k-jam a lot better.

My first one had a few keys that weren't great, t, del and spacebar. This one is good for the keyboard. But....my screen is loosing calibration all the time again which is why I was given a replacement. Moves so that it is totaly unusable! Is anyone else experiencing it? If you are not is it a Voadafone one or something else. I've told Vodafone that I'd like another one out of a different batch and they said that they will extend my exchange period for a couple of weeks until some new ones come in. Might call HTC to see if it is a known "feature". Other than that I'm still totally happy with the device and it is much better at memory handling thn the Exec ever was, It never seems to drop below 22mb of program memory after having opened and closed programs for a clouple of days. The exec would have dropped to 17 by the end of the first.
Phil

Screen Brightness hack?

hi guys,
just got my Dopod 838 pro(TyTN)...and I love it. however I notice the screen brightness is not as bright as my o2 atom. even with the brightness turned all the way up in the settings. however I noticed that when I press the camera button the screen brightness increases for a second (to the same as my atom). but the when I close the camera the screen dims back again. seeing this lets me know that the screen does have the capabilities to be turned brighter then is allowed through the settings. does anyone know a reg hack or a trick so that I can turn the screen brightness up? does everyone else notice that the screen brightness goes up when the camera button is pressed? or is this a hardware issue? thanks for the help guys!

I've not tried it on Hermes, but VJLumos II takes advantage of the extra brightness that occurs when the camera is enabled, to make a super brite screen. This works on the Magician, and can be enabled on the Universal but not disabled until soft reset (I've not been motivated to finish writing the Universal's version.)
If the Hermes exhibits this same characteristic, VJLumos II might work on it. Give it a go and let me know.
V

Hi Vijay555 yeah i was actually on your site and ive heard alot about VJLumos II. But I thought it was only compatible with the Magician. Do you think there is any risk of it Hard resteting my 838pro(Hermes)? Anything else i should know before installing it? Does it work 100% correct on the magician? Please let me know!
Thanks!

Works 100% on the Magician, and the active part works on the Universal.
Basically it mimicks the camera and causes it to be activated, causing the extra brightness.
I can't guarantee 100%, but say 99% that it can't hardreset your device (without having the device in front of me I can't say...)
It'll either work or not work, it shouldn't interact with anything else.
I'd be interested to get a Hermes rom dump at some point to see what it's like. It's a great piece of hardware, I'm wondering how to get one now I've jumped ship to the Mio!
V

yeah the hermes is great. Ok well i guess i will be the guinea pig and test it out on my device...haha i hope nothing happens. Ill install it in a few hours and let you know what happens. If i need to remove it will it just uninstall?
By the way is the a reg hack that can do this also?

There's no registry setting I know of that will do this, but there might well be; however, as I said, VJLumos does this by interacting with the hardware in an unexpected way, so it's unlikely to be replicated in the registry.
I think you can run VJLumos in stand alond mode, without installing (which will cause it to be enabled every time you switch on). Just run it in stand alone mode to test it out.
V

Hi all,
I'll also try with Wizard,should I or not?
Any effect on battery life. I mean is it more than max of hardware brightness

vijay555 said:
There's no registry setting I know of that will do this, but there might well be; however, as I said, VJLumos does this by interacting with the hardware in an unexpected way, so it's unlikely to be replicated in the registry.
I think you can run VJLumos in stand alond mode, without installing (which will cause it to be enabled every time you switch on). Just run it in stand alone mode to test it out.
V
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi Vijay, what do you mean run it in stand alone mode?

fordcan: I'm sure that it doesn't work on the Wizard, if it did then I would have written VJCandela for it as well. Not right now, and not until I get a wizard in my hands (all you new Hermes guys, if you find yourself with a spare Wizard, I can give it a good home!)
phame: if you just double click on the VJLumosII icon, it'll enable superbrite once. If you click on the -install icon it will try to enable it every run.
Like I said, it's not written fully for WM5 yet, because I never used my Universal as my main phone, and frankly the screen was bright enough. The magician benefited from it, but hopefully any HTC phone that exhibits the curious camera loading/screen brighter thing might benefit from it.
However, for now, as I said, it's not fully debugged for WM5. But test it, and if it works, I'll try to make some time to fix it. The problem is that it will only work the first time, not every time you run it. Hopefully easily fixable.. But it won't do any damage.
I presume it will drain the battery faster, since screen is brighter, but if you use it in bursts or recharge daily, it shouldn't be an issue. I never used my Magician without it, and it was fine after 1 year.
V

vijay555 said:
fordcan: I'm sure that it doesn't work on the Wizard, if it did then I would have written VJCandela for it as well. Not right now, and not until I get a wizard in my hands (all you new Hermes guys, if you find yourself with a spare Wizard, I can give it a good home!)
Like I said, it's not written fully for WM5 yet, because I never used my Universal as my main phone, and frankly the screen was bright enough. The magician benefited from it, but hopefully any HTC phone that exhibits the curious camera loading/screen brighter thing might benefit from it.
V
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thanx for the reply,
I a bit confused; you are telling "doesn't work on Wizard" and at the same time "any HTC phone that exhibits the curious camera loading/screen brighter thing might benefit from it " Wizard got this..
curiosity kill the cat :wink: Better try and see issue :idea:

fordcan:
Sorry, it might benefit from the technique, not necessarily this version.
Like VJCandela, I have to have a Wizard in my hands to experiment with the camera driver. It'll be easy to write once I've got the device in my hands, but I can't test it.
It shouldn't do any harm, since it'll probably just not be able to find the correct camera driver on the Wizard. But give it a go and tell me if it does anything.
I never knew that the Wizard has this screen brightening effect
V

Absolutely not working.. tells; "Can't load Superbrite Libraries!"
Anyway "Trying times are no time to quit trying"

Ok i downloaded the cab file, copied it to my memory card and executed the file. And it worked perfectly instantly the screen brightness went up. And it didnt seem to be causing any type of slow down or problems.
When i click the camera button i just get an error message which sais "the camera app is already in use". But luckliy no soft reset.
However i couldnt find how to turn it off. It doesnt show up in the list of "running programs"
so far the way i launched it was by just clicking in the icon. Can you please tell me how to do the "-install" thing you were talking about?
and how do i shut it off if i want to use th camera? At the moment i can only do a soft reset for it to turn off.
Thanks!

You should have a bunch of shorcuts installed in yor startmenu.
Launching VJLumosII with parameters -off will disable it, clicking -install will install it so it's run every time it's switched on.
However, I've not tested the -install option on WM5 so let me know if it works appopriately. I'll get around to reweriting it eventually.
V

i tried clicking the short cut to shut it off. But i get an error message saying something about the application being corrupt. So to diable it i still have to soft reset. Im scared to install the app in fears that the remove shortcut may not work
Also ive noticed the battery drains about 30% faster with the app running.
any ideas?

As I've said, it only half works on anything other then the Magician. I'll fix it sometime as a priority - I just got a Hermes, and have to say that the screen is a bit "meh", not as bright as a Mio 701 or Magician. Washed out colours and poorer viewing angle. Superbrite is necessary, not optional
V

I've just switched from a Prophet to Magician. Couldn't stand the slowness of WM5, especially with some big database software I use. The only thing I miss is the Prophet's screen brightness (OK, battery life was great too) so I was really pleased to find vjlumosII. The only downside I've run into is that it adds about 3 seconds to the power up time when I press the power button on my Jam. I've not seen this mentioned elsewhere. Is this a normal effect of the software?

Do you see the slowness on the Magician or the Prophet?
On my Magician I never noticed it.
I just wrote a new kinda app yesterday for low level hacking, and will see if I can apply this to VJLumos. Hopefully some new ish updates coming soon - however, I am using my time well I hope. I'm writing a new website, hence the slow progress on programming.
V

For the Hermes, see here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279365
V

vjay
Vijay,
I've only used vjlumosII on the Magician. The Prophet is the first PDA/phone with a screen that was as bright as I'd want, so I never tried vjlumosII on it.
The delay on my JAM (the 128MB RAM version) is not subtle. It takes a full 3 sec for the phone to come on after you press the power button. The same thing happens if you push any other button to turn on the phone. There doesn't seem to be any delay in the phone coming on if it is awakened by recieving an incoming call. When I turn off vjlumosII the power up delay disappears.
Also the screen brightness initially doesn't come on at maximum. It takes another 2 seconds to boost up.
Thanks.
vijay555 said:
Do you see the slowness on the Magician or the Prophet?
On my Magician I never noticed it.
I just wrote a new kinda app yesterday for low level hacking, and will see if I can apply this to VJLumos. Hopefully some new ish updates coming soon - however, I am using my time well I hope. I'm writing a new website, hence the slow progress on programming.
V
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

Happy with my HTC TP/Raphael!

Hi Guys,
I now own a HTC TP/Raphael for two weeks and am extraordinarely happy with it! I waited about 1.5 years to finally find a machine that mets all my needs and wishes.
I want to thanks all you guys, because I read this forum months before I finally bought the thing and was very pleased with all the info, pro and con, you all posted!
I bought mine in Holland with Tomtom v7 bundled.
Common problems I faced and how I solved them:
1) Problem: Slow GPS Fix (10 min). Solution: Found Quick GPS pre installed on my device, ran it and have a fix now within a cool minute.
2) Problem: HTC picks up or cancels incoming call in trousers pocket. Solution: Installed AnswerDisabler 0.5.1 Thanks to the programmer! It works a treat!
So now I can clear my jacket pockets of the weight of a huge HP iPAQ 4700HX and my compact camera Canon IXUS 850. (The latter I still take with me on occasion, but for the odd picture opportunity, the HTC suffices.)
I'm wowing my friends on a regular basis with this device, showing of the nice TF3D interface and G sensor app's.
Okay, I might still have a small inconvenience left, but I will post that in a separate thread.
Thanks again and keep up all the good work!

Emiel Ratelband?

I too am a happy customer with my Touch Pro.
I faced a few slightly different inconveniences:
1. The Web Browser tab in the TouchFlo does not display the graphics. This is the screen where the YouTube icon. I've update the graphics with GIF files of a few of my more common websites and reduced the size of the images. Works after a power down but not after a reset.
2. Battery performance is still not as good as I was hoping but definitely better then my Dopod C730. I've already done the performance tweaks and this has indeed improved the battery performance. I use the device with push mail for my office email. I also enable 3G and disable Bluetooth.
3. Screen brightness under direct sunlight is bad. Can't do much about that one.
4. The TouchFlo sometimes "hang" with a black screen or frozen home screen. Haven't figured out why yet.
Other than that, I love my new toy.

I am another happy customer and the issue of the battery I dont have actually... I am in Hong Kong and bot the TP at the sole authorized retailer and not a parallel import so therefore my TP is branded which is a pain in the butt. I don’t want to flash the ROM as I’m a newbi at WM stuff so if I screw anything up, I’m dead. Also I don’t know how to get into the registry even if I install Total Commander and stuff… but back to your question….
My beef:
1) I don’t use the TP 3D and I use the standard WM screen. However, ONLY the browser Opera has the auto rotate function unless I slide out the key pad…. How annoying is that? I have found a forced rotate application which is SPB Phone Suite but I don’t want to use this as out of this entire program I only want is the force rotation function… so I’m still searching if there is a app to just force rotate the screen.

3. You can actually, if it is on auto adjust brightness. Turn it off because it toggles between 30-70% which means that you have 30% more brightness if you adjust it yourself with the slider.

@sgsdebruin: No, no Emil Ratelband. (Dutch happy-guru a few years back). Just thought it would be polite to let all the people, who spent time to do this stuff for the community, know that it's appreciated. I know it works for me if others are being appreciative so...
@kelvgoh:
1) No problem for me.
2) Battery performance could be better, yes, but I'll have it on the usb a lot anyway for synchronizing with Outlook at work, so it's not so big of a deal. I'm also thinking that battery life of a device is inversely proportional to the screen resolution.
3) Screen readibility in sunlight. Yeah, that's not so good. The screen of the device is not anti-reflective at all, what makes it really sparkle if you haven't reflections in it, but if you do, then it's bad. (See also some of the Youtube video's of the HTC. In many occasions you can clearly see the camera it's filmed with.)
4) I lucked out there too. No problem.
Fact remains that some HTC TP do have weird problems (1 and 4) and others don't. You can read more of those freak problems on the forum. It looks like the production process is not making consistent devices every time.

Mr.Sir said:
3. You can actually, if it is on auto adjust brightness. Turn it off because it toggles between 30-70% which means that you have 30% more brightness if you adjust it yourself with the slider.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the tip. Unfortunately, that also increases the battery usage. Sigh, can't have everything.

hvwtp said:
@sgsdebruin: No, no Emil Ratelband. (Dutch happy-guru a few years back). Just thought it would be polite to let all the people, who spent time to do this stuff for the community, know that it's appreciated. I know it works for me if others are being appreciative so...
@kelvgoh:
1) No problem for me.
2) Battery performance could be better, yes, but I'll have it on the usb a lot anyway for synchronizing with Outlook at work, so it's not so big of a deal. I'm also thinking that battery life of a device is inversely proportional to the screen resolution.
3) Screen readibility in sunlight. Yeah, that's not so good. The screen of the device is not anti-reflective at all, what makes it really sparkle if you haven't reflections in it, but if you do, then it's bad. (See also some of the Youtube video's of the HTC. In many occasions you can clearly see the camera it's filmed with.)
4) I lucked out there too. No problem.
Fact remains that some HTC TP do have weird problems (1 and 4) and others don't. You can read more of those freak problems on the forum. It looks like the production process is not making consistent devices every time.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Must try and tweak the device more. Thanks for sharing.

[APP] TorchButton v2.3, using camera LED as flashlight [UPDATED Dec 8]

Continuing my quest of using the LED as flashlight for my new HD2, I updated TorchButton to support the HD2 as well.
Dropped your keys? Finding something behind the bench? Performing surgery on a computer and need to find that jumper on the mainboard?
This is a simple application built for some HTC devices that have a hardware LED, normally used to take pictures in the dark. However I found the LED to be perfect to be used as a handy pocket flashlight.
Usage
There is no GUI for this application. Just start TorchButton to enable the LED on the back of your device. Start TorchButton again to turn it off.
Check out the readme if you're an advanced user and wish to change some registry settings, i.e. to allow a longer maximum time the LED is enabled.
Known issues
- [Fixed] New icons are not working when TorchButton is installed to Storage Card
Todo
- Create an app to configure the registry settings
- See if support for Omnia Pro (B7610) is feasible (someone should send me the related dlls...)
- [Done] Add a seperate timeout for bright mode
- [Done] Add blink mode with bright led
- [Done] Use new icons provided by tnyynt
- [Done] Add support for Omnia (the one found here)
- [Impossible] See if it's possible to control leds seperately ('economic mode') Sorry, this is not possible. (Tech-talk: setting a single GPIO enables both LEDs. There doesn't seem to be a GPIO for each LED seperately.)
Wishful thinking
- Camera app to interpret the morse
History
Version 2.3
- Fix icons not showing in HTC Sense or WM 6.5 start menu when installed to Storage Card.
Version 2.2
- New icons for all TorchButton apps (thanks tnyynt!). These only work in WM6.5 and up. Older OS's will still see the old icons.
- Added registry setting to use bright setting in blink mode (see BlinkUsesBrightMode).
- Bright mode now has a seperate timeout, configurable in registry (see BrightModeTimeout).
- Added support for Samsung Omnia i9x0 devices (hopefully they all work). Thanks to raph/zemrwhite2/PaSSoA. Thanks to Chainfire for testing on his Omnia i900L.
- [edit] Shortcut names have changed. I found them nicer this way, no two-line icons. And the text is now also not cut-off when added as shortcut in the home screen.
- [edit] Improved handling of bright mode. It should stop immediately now when pressed again, instead of waiting for a 500ms interval. This makes BlinkUsesBrightMode possible combined with low intervals for blink mode.
- [edit] Soft-reset your phone after upgrading from an older version! Else the new icons will not show.
Version 2.1
- Bright mode is now support on the HTC HD2 (Leo).
- Added a one-time warning message when bright mode is used for the first time.
Version 2.0
- Initial version with support for the HTC HD2 (Leo) (bright mode is not supported on the Leo)
Version 1.x
- Support for the Touch Pro

Dont think about something. Untill i read your post. This could be handy sometimes. Thnx

Awesome man I was just thinking how I missed that
Btw what's missing for bright mode to work? If I'm not mistaken there is a brighter mode just before taking a pic.

Thanks! I was dissapointed that hTorch didn't work on the HD2 now I got this. Wonderful!

Great ! thanks
Have it on my Omnia and was hoping to have it for my future HD2 !

You're all welcome! Glad to hear you like it.
12aon said:
Awesome man I was just thinking how I missed that
Btw what's missing for bright mode to work? If I'm not mistaken there is a brighter mode just before taking a pic.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The mode is there, but it's not as easily called as it was on the Touch Pro. In fact I haven't found the API call at all yet. May need some hacking around the API to get that to work. The normal mode produces _quite_ the amount of light though, it's even more light than the bright mode of the Touch Pro thanks to the dual led.
Zero Masamune said:
Thanks! I was dissapointed that hTorch didn't work on the HD2 now I got this. Wonderful!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
hTorch will work again once I update the C# wrapper to support the Leo, as hTorch makes use of my C# library. I'll do that somewhere in the upcoming week.

Great, works perfect ! Txs

Can anyone confirm this don't burn anything out? On the X1 the light modules weren't heatsinked properly and caused vibrator motor to screw up after 15secs use as a torch.
Thanks!

kinnyfaifai said:
Can anyone confirm this don't burn anything out? On the X1 the light modules weren't heatsinked properly and caused vibrator motor to screw up after 15secs use as a torch.
Thanks!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I can't confirm it won't ever burn out. However, realise that enabling the LED is actually the same as using your camera with the lights on in the dark. This _shoud_ be possible for prolonged times as well.
Were you using the 'bright' setting on the X1? (If that's possible there.) That might explain it better... otherwise you could just send in the device for repair, as it's normal use of the device. Especially if it's after only 15 seconds.

NetRipper said:
I can't confirm it won't ever burn out. However, realise that enabling the LED is actually the same as using your camera with the lights on in the dark. This _shoud_ be possible for prolonged times as well.
Were you using the 'bright' setting on the X1? (If that's possible there.) That might explain it better... otherwise you could just send in the device for repair, as it's normal use of the device. Especially if it's after only 15 seconds.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It was a known problem that the LEDs weren't heatsinked properly on the X1 and there was a huge warning on using hTorch. I've not installed hTorch and never used the LEDs on my X1 as a torch cos of this oversight by the manufacturer. I do miss being able to use the LEDs as a torch though, it's very handy.

Heej nice, i come from oud-Beijerland

nice app, but bright mode doesn`t work for me..

NetRipper said:
Continuing my quest of using the LED as flashlight for my new HD2, I updated TorchButton to support the HD2 as well.
Dropped your keys? Finding something behind the bench? Performing surgery on a computer and need to find that jumper on the mainboard?
This is a simple application built for some HTC devices that have a hardware LED, normally used to take pictures in the dark. However I found the LED to be perfect to be used as a handy pocket flashlight.
Usage
There is no GUI for this application. Just start TorchButton to enable the LED on the back of your device. Start TorchButton again to turn it off.
Check out the readme if you're an advanced user and wish to change some registry settings, i.e. to allow a longer maximum time the LED is enabled.
History
Version 2.0
- Initial version with support for the HTC HD2 (Leo) (bright mode is not supported on the Leo)
Version 1.x
- Support for the Touch Pro
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
20mihalko said:
nice app, but bright mode doesn`t work for me..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Isn't it clearly stated that brightmode doesn't work.......jeez....dude...read

ET said:
Isn't it clearly stated that brightmode doesn't work.......jeez....dude...read
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
sorry, my mistake

kinnyfaifai said:
It was a known problem that the LEDs weren't heatsinked properly on the X1 and there was a huge warning on using hTorch. I've not installed hTorch and never used the LEDs on my X1 as a torch cos of this oversight by the manufacturer. I do miss being able to use the LEDs as a torch though, it's very handy.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The vibrate function does not work at all on my X1 after installing and using hTorch. User beware..!
This is my next phone when O2 decide to put it on their shelves, and hopefully its built better than the X1.

Any chance of some source code?
I've been looking through the HD2 camera drivers, and have found a few things that should be the LED (can't test it as I have no device), but am wondering if it's the same method as yours!

l3v5y said:
Any chance of some source code?
I've been looking through the HD2 camera drivers, and have found a few things that should be the LED (can't test it as I have no device), but am wondering if it's the same method as yours!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Here are the important code snippets of the API that I'm using. The methods were pretty obvious (luckily).
typedef int (__stdcall *LEO_INIT)();
typedef int (__stdcall *LEO_SETCURRENT)(DWORD dw1);
...
LEO_INIT InitFlashLight;
LEO_SETCURRENT PMICFlashLED_SetCurrent;
...
hCamera=LoadLibrary(L"CameraPlatform.dll");
...
InitFlashLight = (LEO_INIT) GetProcAddress(hCamera, L"InitFlashLight");
PMICFlashLED_SetCurrent = (LEO_SETCURRENT) GetProcAddress(hCamera, L"PMICFlashLED_SetCurrent");
...
InitFlashLight(); // must be called before SetCurrent has any effect
...
PMICFlashLED_SetCurrent(0); // turns it off
PMICFlashLED_SetCurrent(1); // turns it on
There's also a PMICFlashLED_SetMode(x); but I haven't been able to figure out what it does. As far as I could see when disassembling it wants one parameter.
If you have any ideas on the bright mode, they'd be more than welcome. If you want the full source to make some modifications or to toy with it, let me know.

NetRipper said:
Here are the important code snippets of the API that I'm using. The methods were pretty obvious (luckily).
typedef int (__stdcall *LEO_INIT)();
typedef int (__stdcall *LEO_SETCURRENT)(DWORD dw1);
...
LEO_INIT InitFlashLight;
LEO_SETCURRENT PMICFlashLED_SetCurrent;
...
hCamera=LoadLibrary(L"CameraPlatform.dll");
...
InitFlashLight = (LEO_INIT) GetProcAddress(hCamera, L"InitFlashLight");
PMICFlashLED_SetCurrent = (LEO_SETCURRENT) GetProcAddress(hCamera, L"PMICFlashLED_SetCurrent");
...
InitFlashLight(); // must be called before SetCurrent has any effect
...
PMICFlashLED_SetCurrent(0); // turns it off
PMICFlashLED_SetCurrent(1); // turns it on
There's also a PMICFlashLED_SetMode(x); but I haven't been able to figure out what it does. As far as I could see when disassembling it wants one parameter.
If you have any ideas on the bright mode, they'd be more than welcome. If you want the full source to make some modifications or to toy with it, let me know.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's what I'd come to as a conclusion, so glad that works!
Is there any need to un-init the flash light?
PMICFlashLED_SetMode will probably need some playing around, though might enable your "bright" mode. Will have a play with that when I get an HD2!

l3v5y said:
That's what I'd come to as a conclusion, so glad that works!
Is there any need to un-init the flash light?
PMICFlashLED_SetMode will probably need some playing around, though might enable your "bright" mode. Will have a play with that when I get an HD2!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There doesn't seem to be an un-init function. However, the debug console shows that it detects when the DLL is being attached to or detached from, so there's probably some cleanup code there.
I also haven't found any side-effects yet. TorchButton works fine even when the camera app is running. They don't interfere with eachother (other than toggling the LED to their own behalf). On the Touch Pro it wasn't possible to run TorchButton and the camera app at the same time. Not that I ever wanted to, but still.
In regard to that mode function. It must be for something. I tried using it in various ways already but it didn't matter. Maybe you'll have more luck

might be confused right now, but seems that when in camera mode, and battery is below 50% you cant use the flash - anybody know if this will affect the app?
haven't got my hd2 yet so cant help you out, but there's a thread under the Leo -- > Leo sub-forum
cheerios!

Is there anyway possible to DISABLE microsoft tell me

This is the most annoying POS program I have ever seen , whether I have a stock rom or custom rom this annoying program pops up whenever it wants usually while Im doing something , but it also just starts for no reason while sitting on a table ! Yes I turned it off in setting , that doesnt turn it off , that doesnt do sh1t , I mean at least have an on off button for this annoyance , anyone know of a place in the registry to cut this off (gooddaytodie, heathcliff,Jax ???)!!

It's easy enough to remove it from a custom ROM, but if you're getting the app triggering randomly like that, it's probably not a software problem. That sounds like a hardware issue, with either the capacitive buttons being too sensitive (a problem some phones will exhibit, especially while plugged into a charger and then laid on their backs) or with something in the case being messed up. I've had TellMe trigger a few times when I was gripping the phone really hard playing Z0mb1es, but not since then and never while just lying there.

I was hoping Id get your attention and yes I figured it was a hardware issue with the capacitive buttons , but is there any way to disable tell me and yet retain the actions of the capacitive buttons? its really annoying , it may be a hardware issue however after researching this its quite prevalent on the new nokia phones as well I am using a samsung 1st gen focus and I do have a custom rom , if you can point to the right location in the registry to remove this pest I would be appreciative , I will report back to you to let you know how it works out?
Thanks again GDTD , always pleasure hearing from you!

I know of no way to just "disable" it, though that's probably just because I haven't looked. It's part of WebSearch.exe, which if removed or renamed would prevent TellMe from launching (it would also break the other functions of that app, though, such as the barcode scanner and Bing Music).
The Focus is indeed the device I've most commonly heard complaints of having over-sensitive buttons / touchscreen that occasionally push* themselves. I've never tried, but I've heard there's a tool - in the Diagnostics app, I think - that lets you adjust the buttons. Maybe that would help?
* I was going to say "touch", but that... didn't look right.

Thats exactly what I was thinking that there might be some controls in diagnosis that adjust the sensitivity , but, alas I dont know what they would be , if you have the time could you look for me?

I don't have any Samsung phone, and the Diagnostics app is completely different between OEMs. You're better off just doing some searches of the forums, especially the Focus sub-forum.

yep I have been, I used to know all the good codes , but I guess I will have to start searching again, thanks anyway! I think I might be heading back to Android ,after this fone has run its course , just so much you can do with the platform ,unlike windows and crapple ! I am really ticked off how Microsoft keeps sabotaging itself , win 8 phone kills win 7 phone as win 7 phone killed mobile , every two years ,ya have to start all over again ,you will never catch apple and wont even catch a dream of android!