I have a 4155 that has developed the following problem: most of the times it doesn't turn on correctly. I press the power button, I see the backlight coming on but the screen stays grey (blank). Eventually I can get it back on, but only after performing a hard reset, then many, many soft resets (anywhere between 10 and 30). Then it works again for a little while, and the whole thing happens again.
The only way to avoid it is to have the screen stay on all the time, i.e. keep it plugged in and have it not turn off while on AC. If I allow the screen to turn off, chances are I'll have to do the whole reset procedure again, and it takes up to 30 minutes each time. It doesn't matter at all how well charged the battery is, and it even does it if I allow the screen to turn off while plugged in.
Of course in its present state it's just a little more than a paperwewight, not a PDA. I know that underneath it works correctly, just the display has this weird bug. I opened it up and poked inside, put it back together - no change. Does anyone have any idea? I'd really, really like to make this work again.
Thanks for any help!
(I should mention that I flashed the ROM once: I got it cheap off eBay because it was the French language version, and I flashed it with the English ROM. Worked like a charm for many months, then it developed the problem above. Don't think it's related to flashing, but thought I'd mention it anyway)
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I upgraded to WM6 (pdaviet) 2 months ago (I guess..), and problems started to appear a few weeks ago. First it just was hard to boot sometimes, had to reboot several times to get it up and running, but when it could start everything was fine. Then since yesterday, it became harder. And today, couldn't start it at all. Tried several times, and everytime the screen went melted, corrupted, like if it couldn't stand an o/c, but it always runs at normal speeds. I guess it has something to do with the battery and the way WM6 handles it (or at least the implementation we have on our prophet).
I tried to hard-reset, I left it a long time on the format screen (before the actual HR) and it handled it for long enough, but the same thing started while setting up WM.... too bad !
While writing this message I tought I could try to downgrade, and I did using AKU3.3-Jester-b1.
I had no problem while the phone was in guest mode after the HR.
Everything went nice during first step upgrade, but on final reset it did the same thing, and now..... it cannot start at all !!!!
Someone has an idea ? I own a G4 and it has the following roms :
IPL 2.10, SPL 2.20, GSM 2.47 (or something like that)
It won't charge (but my batteries are full, I've got an external charger), it won't start from battery nor from power, even if the battery is removed.
Damn, at least I guess I can return it like that to orange, since it cannot start one can't see the modified rom...
If anyone has a suggestion, it is more than welcome ^^
Thanks !
Niko
huh !
back to semi-life ^^
After a few hours left alone without battery or sim card, it started again...
but it still resets every few minutes, or the screen goes melted (actually its like white scanlines that fulfill the screen).
I'll try to leave it shutdown for the night, see if I can at least put the orange splash screens and rom back for warranty purpose.
But it now has serious HW problems, for sure. And my opinion is WM6 has something to do with that. BEWARE !
Another strange thing is that I now have to keep the reset button pressed for half a second to reset, where it reseted instantly before. Those devices really have unstable hardware.
FYI, it was almost brand new, as it was warranty-replaced about one week before I installed WM6.
lastnikita said:
back to semi-life ^^
After a few hours left alone without battery or sim card, it started again...
but it still resets every few minutes, or the screen goes melted (actually its like white scanlines that fulfill the screen).
I'll try to leave it shutdown for the night, see if I can at least put the orange splash screens and rom back for warranty purpose.
But it now has serious HW problems, for sure. And my opinion is WM6 has something to do with that. BEWARE !
Another strange thing is that I now have to keep the reset button pressed for half a second to reset, where it reseted instantly before. Those devices really have unstable hardware.
FYI, it was almost brand new, as it was warranty-replaced about one week before I installed WM6.
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Hey LastNikita,
I had the same problem ! The white scanlines thing just after re-updating a WM6 version (pdaviet), because I was tired of the constant reset issue.. suddenly, the update went wrong, and I stupidly followed the "recovery" process, which tells u to remove the battery... bang ! screen went corrupted !
Like you, I tought it was over... but I noticed that if you connect your phone and PC with USB, and keep pressed power (ON/OFF button on side) + camera after reseting (little hole on bottom - press during 5 sec!), the PC recognizes a USB device (not the usual phone drivers...) at this moment, I launched the Jester 3.3 (step1) update, in order to downgrade from the ugly WM6 pdaviet... My phone was not yet fixed (still with white scanlines), but at least, I could hear again the WM "start" sound, the scanlines would also "move" across the screen borders when I touched the screen, which made me imagine I was on the calibrating process... also, while connected to PC, after a while, ActiveSync would launch, asking for 1st time synch... this kept me confident as the phone (software) seemed to be reacting fine although HW prob...
I completely charged the phone again (till green light) then kept on reseting the phone (until I hear the WM sound) hoping the lines would finish scanning and come back with the normal .. and guess what, it did !!! Of course, PIGHEAD as I am, I wasn't totally happy it recovered with WM5, so i digged for a better rom, and I can tell you I'm very happy with the smart1 (wizard version) which works fine, but still has some minor bugs as Live Messenger not working... but runs fine (specialy when pressing the ON/OFF button !
PS: Make sure the ALWAYS completely switch off your phone (ON/OFF for 3 secs) before removing the battery... it did happen again... when I stupidly trusted the "recovery" process, again !
DUHHHH !!!!
PS: at least, now you ALL know !
Kokiri
Finally ok for warranty )))
Thanks for sharing mate
I finally managed to downgrade to my original Orange rom, and I'm in the process of putting the original Orange splash screens back (I made the nk.nbf but I can't find the right utility to upgrade... "Update utility cannot open the requested file").
BUT I still have that HW problem afterall.... so I guess it still has to go back to warranty right ? This isn't a big deal since Orange is VERY prompt (I guess I'll get it tomorrow or monday morning, the delivery guy brings a new one and goes back wiv my phone, quite nice !), and I have a button which is stucked (from the begining) anyway ^^
While I'm writing this my phone is docked and synced, and it seems fine.... but, I guess, as soon as I will reset it will start over again.... I'll keep you posted.
Anyway, I'm no longer desesperate and that's good news (for me ^^)
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niko
yip
ok, everything's back to original.
Actually, it works well when docked, but it freezes/melted screen as soon as I tried to use it on battery, so that I'm quite sure it has something to do wiv WM6.... I'll post that on some crossbow threads this weekend if I have time enough (there are so many of them now !)....
But once more, if YOU read this, keep that in mind.
Hope you guys won't have that kind of failure while trying it.
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niko
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I am having the same problem except the screen showing white scanlines everything else is working on the handset. Could it be a LCD Problem?
Me too...
I have the same issue (black/colored vertical lines and a white screen). I think it has to do with upgrading to WM6 or with overclocking with batteryStatus, not sure. This are the suspects in my opinion....
Now I downgraded to WM5 but the problem seems to persist, I disabled batteryStatus and will see if the situation improves... crossing fingers
Uhm ... possible Overclocked!
I have read 3 threads with same errors!
how much was your highes clock? do you use it for navigation? long time on highest clock or only for speed up?
i dont have a problem with scan lines but with my prophet i use the scaling option and go max to 234 i also set to 234 when using certain apps.
is this damaging to my prophet?
at the moment trying to upgrade to PDAViet 4.0.0.0.3 with a world of pain but thats another topic!
I'm not sure how many people, if any, have experience with this phone, but I'm taking a shot in the dark because I am completely out of options here. The phone is similar to the Cect M88, and the other Cect iPhone-clones available, although I'm not sure how similar the button layout is.
I installed PCM Keyboard last night, and all was working fine until this afternoon, when all of a sudden, my phone wouldn't wake up. I ended up having to pull the battery in order to get it to restart, but then it wouldn't boot past the Windows Mobile screen (the first one - didn't even make it to the second screen).
After several attempts to hard reset (top volume button + camera button + power button), I was able to get it reset, but even though active sync was running, folders weren't showing up properly on the phone itself. I did a soft reset, and folders then showed up, but this time active sync wouldn't load on the phone. Several more soft resets did nothing, but I kept trying, and finally... the phone froze up again to the point where it hung on the Windows Mobile screen again. Now, despite all attempts, I can't even get it to hard reset. When I push all buttons from an off state, the screen will turn blue (which seems to indicate some kind of resetting is going on since it normally goes straight to the WM screen) and then a few seconds later, the Windows Mobile screen will come up and hang. I've tried every combination of buttons possible, and I've tried hard resetting probably a good 20-30 times since this happened. I've removed the SIM card, removed the SD card... I've basically tried hard resetting seemingly every way possible, and yet it still will not reset and load up WM 6.0 pro like it should.
Any ideas on how I can get this thing to at least move past the WM screen? If I'm totally unable to hard reset, what would be the next best course of action? Since this is an off-brand phone with no support or any kind of warranty, are there repair places out there that can restore the OS? Is that something I can do myself? (Phone didn't come with any software or anything.) I'm at a loss here... I really don't want to end up with a $200 blue flashlight/paperweight. I know I took my chances when I bought it, but well... this stinks.
worked
hey man i know its old and hopefully you still have your phone.. ok what you need to do is let the phone die completely so you may have to keep the blue screen on and keep turning it on till your phone does this like you i have hard reseted serveral time to no avail but when the phone died i took out the battery plugged it in to the wall charger placed the battery in the phone let the red led light by the camera light up then i turned it on and before the screen could show the splash i did the hard reset phone is aye ok !! hope this helps man.. your post helped me..
eric
Hello Guys,
I started to have problems with my wing and end up in three-color bootloader screen. I can tell you that I am not playing around with my phone. I do not even install any software not to risk its basic phone functionality since I am using this phone as a business phone. So, no crazy rom flash or etc has been done prior to this problem.
My phone started to have problems with answering calls last week. When it was ringing, it was keep ringing and I was not able to take the call even though I was pressing every possible buttons on the phone. It was locking.
I noticed that phone was locking the buttons too. So, I selected "do not lock buttons when the device is off". But, this does not have any effect. Phone was keep locking my buttons.
Last night, I noticed that my phone was unresponsive once again as usual, I soft reset the device, and it booted to the three color screen (I think you guys call this bootloader screen?) where it says "IPL 4.26.0002" and "SPL 4.26.0000". Tried to soft reset probably another 10 more times. same thing...
I took out the battery, went to sleep. Put back the battery in the morning, it booted to the OS and phone is running. But none of the hard buttons were working. It also hangs up the incoming call after first ring. I soft reset the device once again and it went back to the three-color screen.
I went to the Tmobile website, and found that there is an upgrade ROM. I downloaded and ran that program. It said that it installed it to the device successfully, and then the device rebooted itself. Guess what, back to the three-color screen.
I have been reading your forum since morning, and read a lot about brick phones etc. I tried couple of the techniques for recovering brick phones, but nothing helped. Hopefully, someone here can tell me what is going on, even though if the answer is to throw the device to the trash.
Additional Observations
It looks like nobody is interested
I have other observations.
- When "do not lock buttons" is checked, phone starts acting even more weirder. it generates keystrokes by itself. Camera starts taking photos.
- If the battery of the phone is out at least an hour (I don't know why), phones boots fine. If you soft reset at the moment, it will always goes back to the three color bootloader.
Can this be a virus?
Hi guys
I have this strange behavior going on in my Sentation.
Out of nowhere my phone started to have strange screen behavior... Didn't light up after pressing the power button (had to phone my self in order to get screen on).
The next thing was that suddenly the screen goes to maximum brightness or goes to minimum without any explanation (tried both auto brightness or manual).
After that I noticed that the screen went off when I was using it but when I pressed the left side of it it lighted up and off again... making me think of some kind of bad contact underneath. As I already had changed a broken touch screen for t3 times, and let the phone fall for several times I thought it had to do with some plug out of line...
I disassembled the phone completely and mounted up back again. The thing is that the phone started to freeze every 5 minutes (screen on but completely freezed. I have to pul out battery). Sometimes it freezes even in the recovery menu. I've tried several rom's with full wipe and not installing anything and its all the same.
Some times I still not that the screen goes off during the freeze but when I touch the left side it goes on again, but that doesn't change the freezed state even that I let down the phone for several minutes.
I disassemble the phone again, tried different back cover and different battery (one stock and other extra strength) I tried also all the suggestion related to the small pin in the back not connecting well with the back cover (adding an aluminium foil, pulling the pin out, etc..)
Nothing seams to resolve anything so I have clearly an hardware problem... but I don't know what to replace or where to look the damage!!!
Can anybody help me please?!
Update
I have an update on my problem:
I noticed that when I leave the phone on top of some kind of metal part and don't touch it it works all day without any problem but, as soon as I start to touch the phone, it freezes within minutes!
Could it be some kind of static electrical problem? How to resolve it?
I would apreciate any help
Thanks
Hey everyone who reads this.
I'd like to start my topic with apologising if I post this in the wrong section.
So, I have a LG Spirit H440N LTE for about 3 years now, maybe a little less. I've always taken good care of it, both physically and in updates / security wise aswell.
My phone has been working flawlessly until the last 2 days. 2 days ago i was charging my phone, and when it vibrated (meaning its 100%) I pulled the cable off, and pressed the power button (power button locks - unlocks the screen) the screen didn't turn on. I was like "wow that's strange" but didn't care much, i just kept pressing the button every 5-6 seconds, nothing.
At that point I pulled the battery out, let it sit for a short time and then put it back, start the phone, I felt the vibration (meaning it's starting up) but no screen, so my first idea was that I need to get a new firmware and completely reinstall my phone, as it seems like it got bricked.. for no reason, by itself ? Strange thing but I accepted it and literally been googling for 9 hours now and I find more and more issues.
After I got LG FlashTool, drivers, and even 3 different firmwares, I wanted to start the phone in download mode to start upgrading, but even though I held down "volume up for 5 seconds and then put the usb cable in" nothing happened, no screen, my PC didn't recognise the phone either.
So I got a little bit mad and pulled the cable out from the phone, I wanted to remove the battery, but out of nowhere the phone suddenly started loading in, screen working completely fine, i could do whatever i want, so my first thing was to do a hard reset. After the hard reset I set up my usual stuff (important apps etc) and I locked the screen so my battery won't go down. Little did I know, I ****ed up again, because ever since that happened, I can't get my screen to work again. I tried everything I could but my PC still doesn't recognise the phone (even after a LOT of drivers being installed), charging the phone doesn't do anything. Regardless if I remove - put back the battery no screen, no screen in download - hard reset mode either, it's just completely black.
I'd like to have some sort of help, because I am just completely out of ideas, I really feel like a firmware change could fix the phone, but if the computer doesn't recognise it, I have no idea what to do.
rawon3 said:
Hey everyone who reads this.
I'd like to start my topic with apologising if I post this in the wrong section.
So, I have a LG Spirit H440N LTE for about 3 years now, maybe a little less. I've always taken good care of it, both physically and in updates / security wise aswell.
My phone has been working flawlessly until the last 2 days. 2 days ago i was charging my phone, and when it vibrated (meaning its 100%) I pulled the cable off, and pressed the power button (power button locks - unlocks the screen) the screen didn't turn on. I was like "wow that's strange" but didn't care much, i just kept pressing the button every 5-6 seconds, nothing.
At that point I pulled the battery out, let it sit for a short time and then put it back, start the phone, I felt the vibration (meaning it's starting up) but no screen, so my first idea was that I need to get a new firmware and completely reinstall my phone, as it seems like it got bricked.. for no reason, by itself ? Strange thing but I accepted it and literally been googling for 9 hours now and I find more and more issues.
After I got LG FlashTool, drivers, and even 3 different firmwares, I wanted to start the phone in download mode to start upgrading, but even though I held down "volume up for 5 seconds and then put the usb cable in" nothing happened, no screen, my PC didn't recognise the phone either.
So I got a little bit mad and pulled the cable out from the phone, I wanted to remove the battery, but out of nowhere the phone suddenly started loading in, screen working completely fine, i could do whatever i want, so my first thing was to do a hard reset. After the hard reset I set up my usual stuff (important apps etc) and I locked the screen so my battery won't go down. Little did I know, I ****ed up again, because ever since that happened, I can't get my screen to work again. I tried everything I could but my PC still doesn't recognise the phone (even after a LOT of drivers being installed), charging the phone doesn't do anything. Regardless if I remove - put back the battery no screen, no screen in download - hard reset mode either, it's just completely black.
I'd like to have some sort of help, because I am just completely out of ideas, I really feel like a firmware change could fix the phone, but if the computer doesn't recognise it, I have no idea what to do.
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You might be having hardware issues, such as a faulty power button. If you are the type of user that frequently presses the power button to lock/unlock the screen, this leads to excessive wear on the button components, this is why some users prefer to use the "tap to sleep" and "tap to wake" feature, to avoid wearing the power button out. On my LG, this feature is called "KnockOn", it's located in Accessibility settings.
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