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This thread is WAAAAY out of date and I haven't had time to update. Please check out AllTheWay's post here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182
I'd say stickie this,with each having an agreed upon description, i know you can find them in the wiki, but these are some of the most asked questions/problems people come up with in new ROM threads.
As mention in this thread, there is even a newer 1.27.12.29 Radio version out but unfortunately nobody has dumped it yet...
ponch92 said:
There are currently 3 radios out there on the threads:
1. 1.27.14.09
2. 1.27.12.17
3. 1.27.12.11
1. I believe this one is the new ATT only radio that apparently upgrades some reception and performance but I haven't really seen it.
2. I haven't tried this one but I think it should work with all Kaisers, I don't know.
3. This was the radio that came with my ATT TILT and I think the default radio for most of these ROMs.
Does anyone have a better explination and/or performance reports? I thought it would be a good idea to make a thread so people know what these radios are and where to get them.
-Ponch
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AT&T User here in Sacramento, CA.
Honestly 1.27.12.17 radio gives me the best reception over all of them. I also connect to GPRS and 3G quicker. Call quality and overall reception is much improved over the other two radios.
It might be a good idea to mention that Radio 1) 1.27.14.09 is only compatible with the ATT rom aku 0.4.4 build 18128. This is because the the both this radio and rom include new drivers that can only produce sound when used together.
So if someone is using 1.27.14.09 with any other ROM than the unreleased Att build 18128, they will not have any sound.
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AT&T User here in Sacramento, CA.
Honestly 1.27.12.17 radio gives me the best reception over all of them. I also connect to GPRS and 3G quicker. Call quality and overall reception is much improved over the other two radios.
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I understand that the 1.27.12.xx radios can't be used with the AT&T 1.60 rom, but what about the other way around? Can the 1.27.12.17 radio be used with the AT&T 1.60 (stock, not custom) rom? Or does the 1.60 ROM require the newer 1.27.14.09 radio due to the drivers?
Good note, I'll put it in.
mfrazzz said:
I understand that the 1.27.12.xx radios can't be used with the AT&T 1.60 rom, but what about the other way around? Can the 1.27.12.17 radio be used with the AT&T 1.60 (stock, not custom) rom? Or does the 1.60 ROM require the newer 1.27.14.09 radio due to the drivers?
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For some strange reason...The newest ATT ROM requires you to have 1.27.14.09. I don't know specifically why this is the case but if you do not use that ratio with the new AT&T ROM it will not work. Vice Versa if you use that newest AT&T radio 1.27.14.09 with a HTC ROM you will get no sound. Just read the 1st post and it will solve all your problems.
Ah this thread certainly helps clear some things up. I couldn't figure out this whole radio problem - but having it laid out like this makes it clear.
So does anyone know the advantage of the newest AT&T Radio? Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems you have to use an older version of the OS to get a newer version of the radio... ?
It should also be noted that you can get other undesirable effects other besides no sound when using 1.27.14.09 on a ROM that isn't based on AKU 0.4.4
So far I've experienced:
-- Camera not working, shows black image and touchscreen functionality messed up in Camera app (Dutty's New Build + CE OS No.6)
-- Unable to get past HTC logo screen until power timeout, then pixelated garbage fills screen (Gullum Kaiser Touch I)
It might be prudent for ROM cookers to integrate the correct radio into their ROM's for the time being so we don't get a flood of people freaking out that their cameras are broken or their units are bricked.
It remains to be seen if the 1.27.14.09 radio is a one-off, or will be the standard for all new ROMs. Who knows, it may also represent a permanent split between Tilt-based and TYTN II-based ROMs in the future.
rob.ocelot said:
It should also be noted that you can get other undesirable effects other besides no sound when using 1.27.14.09 on a ROM that isn't based on AKU 0.4.4
So far I've experienced:
-- Camera not working, shows black image and touchscreen functionality messed up in Camera app (Dutty's New Build + CE OS No.6)
-- Unable to get past HTC logo screen until power timeout, then pixelated garbage fills screen (Gullum Kaiser Touch I)
It might be prudent for ROM cookers to integrate the correct radio into their ROM's for the time being so we don't get a flood of people freaking out that their cameras are broken or their units are bricked.
It remains to be seen if the 1.27.14.09 radio is a one-off, or will be the standard for all new ROMs. Who knows, it may also represent a permanent split between Tilt-based and TYTN II-based ROMs in the future.
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Right you are. It seems like this .09 radio is an ATT only thing right now. Hopefully we'll all join in radio cooked harmony soon. I haven't noticed much of a difference between the ones I've tried. I'm currently using 1.27.12.17 with Dutty's newest rom and I was using the .09 with CUSTEL's Rom yesterday... I don't see a difference. Some people do.
I just became a senior member, hooray!
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I just became a senior member, hooray!
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Great contributions so far!
1.27.12.11 vs 1.27.12.17
Hi guys,
1.27.12.17 has better battery life for sure after tested both of them.
hey guys, i have a tilt and just upgraded to the 1.27.12.17 radio. i used to have 2-3 bars at home and now have 4 bars! i'm using tmobile usa btw, in case that helps
omaralt said:
hey guys, i have a tilt and just upgraded to the 1.27.12.17 radio. i used to have 2-3 bars at home and now have 4 bars! i'm using tmobile usa btw, in case that helps
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I noted your find in the first post, thanks!
Just to throw things off even more...It has been reported by users that there is another Radio, but it hasn't been extracted yet.
Congrats on making this a sticky!!
Radio Version 1.27.12.32
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349528
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Just the throw things off even more...It has been reported by users that there is another Radio, but it hasn't been extracted yet.
Congrats on making this a sticky!!
Radio Version 1.27.12.32
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349528
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got it bud, thanks.
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[*]1.27.12.29
You can read about this recent radio here.
This Radio hasn't made it out to main stream cooking yet but should be a general Kaiser radio that works with ROMs not using the specific ATT build (see 1.27.14.09).
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FYI This is the radio I have on my XDA Stellar as well as it being on the Dutch Orange Kaiser.
When I get my replacement Stellar (dead pixel issues) I'll be flashing Dutty's ROM and will be able to confirm whether it works with this radio.
eyebeebe said:
FYI This is the radio I have on my XDA Stellar as well as it being on the Dutch Orange Kaiser.
When I get my replacement Stellar (dead pixel issues) I'll be flashing Dutty's ROM and will be able to confirm whether it works with this radio.
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Awesome thanks...
I've been lurking around here for about a week and I've been able to flash a G3 and a G4 T-Mobile MDA to WM6 (BlackDiamond 3.1) without posting for any help even though I did run into some issues. (yey for me! ) This forum has a wealth of info and just want to say thanx for all who contrubuted.
However, I'm a little confused on the issue of which radio ROM to use. I've been looking back and forth and it's just not easy to decide, especialy when you have so many variables: G3 or G4, carrier, WM5 or WM6 base ROMs, issues with specific ROMS, ect.
So, both MDA users have reported some slight issues with their radios: G4 had an episode of not being able to hang up a call this morning. G3 had a sigal issue (not certain what the issue was though, girls phone at work). Both are on radio ROM 2.24.11 and using the BD 3.1 ROM. I see that there are 2.47.11 and 2.69.11 radio ROMs out as well. Which radios would be best for these phones?
Just looking for experience with T-Mobile users and their radio versions. Thanx in advanced. And if there's already a thread about this, please accept my apologies and point me in the right direction please.
i use the 2.19.11 UK radio rom with the cingular wm6 radio rom patch. below is the link to the radio, i don't remember where i got the patch. if you can't find it by sorting through the forum send me a PM and i'll email it to ya.
I noticed that i got better service in most places, but i live near the edge of coverage for tmo in my area so there were no miracles. i reccomend it though. no issues to report.
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Wizard/Radio_Roms/Radinly_Thread/T-Mobile-UK_2.19.11_Radinly.zip
Here is the patch. what radio to use is a million Dollar question. You have to really try them all to really find out what works best for you.
Here are some on post #2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=346478
and in the wiki
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Wizard
Thanx for the replies. I had already found the patch and loaded it on the G3 phone. I don't know the effects yet because my coworker is now on vacation, so I won't see them til next year.
However, I'm still in question about the G4 phone (which is my wife's) and if I should change her radio or not. Seems good so far,except that one glitch, but if i encounter any more problems, I'll start experimenting. Reason I didn't start experimenting from the jump is that some were reporting that they could not downgrade back to their original radios after upgrading to like 2.61.11 from 2.19.11 or similar.
Thanx again for the replies. This let's me know that the question of "What's the best radio" is similar to "What's the best ROM"
I'm using the Radio ROM from the T-Mobile mid-06 upgrade package, and am happy with it....
best radio IMHO
I have used several radios but the one at t-mobile s website. is the best .
no problems at all ever . I think is 02.25.11
in wm5 or wm6 is great
I have a the wizard ( mda vario) im in california. with t-mobile usa.
Hello everybody,
I am pretty much a beginner with all of this stuff.
Last night I successfully installed Dutty's WM6.1 on my ATT Tilt. I noticed that my sound wasn't working, so his wiki says to install a radio if your sound doesn't work.
I read through the radio sticky, and I am still unsure of which radio to choose.... Which radio is best for the ATT Tilt in the USA with Dutty's 6.1 Rom?
Thanks for any help you guys can provide!
jjb007 said:
Hello everybody,
I am pretty much a beginner with all of this stuff.
Last night I successfully installed Dutty's WM6.1 on my ATT Tilt. I noticed that my sound wasn't working, so his wiki says to install a radio if your sound doesn't work.
I read through the radio sticky, and I am still unsure of which radio to choose.... Which radio is best for the ATT Tilt in the USA with Dutty's 6.1 Rom?
Thanks for any help you guys can provide!
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Check Dutty's WIKI located in my signature. I give you props...at least you looked a the sticky
Thank you for the reply, however I am still a bit confused.
I understand that I may choose from these radios:
World Wide - 1.58.26.20
World Wide - 1.64.06.04
UK - 1.64.08.21
Polaris - 1.58.21.23
Polaris - 1.58.25.14
But which one is best for the ATT Tilt in the USA?
jjb007 said:
Thank you for the reply, however I am still a bit confused.
I understand that I may choose from these radios:
World Wide - 1.58.26.20
World Wide - 1.64.06.04
UK - 1.64.08.21
Polaris - 1.58.21.23
Polaris - 1.58.25.14
But which one is best for the ATT Tilt in the USA?
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the answer depends on your area. I have literally tried all of them and currently 1.64.06.04 is the one for me. They all worked, its just that .04 gave me better battery life and better reception percentage wise compared to the others. Each individuals experience will be different.
I agree. I've used almost all of them. It doesn't hurt anything to change them. Flash one for a day, flash the next one the next day. You don't lose your settings and data when you ONLY flash the radio.
I am in the LA/OC area of California on ATT and am using the Vega R1 rom with 1.64.08.21 and have good performance with that radio on this and the Sleuth 3.0 rom.
Cheers
BR
Ok, so I flashed 58.26.20 onto my phone. And now, i dont have all the cool features I had after I flashed Dutty's WM6.1. The contact list changed back to the factory style, as did the messaging. The only thing that looks the same is the today screen...
Any idea what this may be?
jjb007 said:
Ok, so I flashed 58.26.20 onto my phone. And now, i dont have all the cool features I had after I flashed Dutty's WM6.1. The contact list changed back to the factory style, as did the messaging. The only thing that looks the same is the today screen...
Any idea what this may be?
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Hi,
try a hard-reset...
But don't forget to backup your data first...
Cheers
need help radio problem
new beee, i am new to the site, i download dutty new rom wm6.1, i am trying to download radio, i downloaded the file; tried opening it, got message update utillity can not undate file
Hi Peeps, wondered if any of you Orange (UK) users had changed their Radio version and if so;
1) which one?
2) How does it rate (reception etc)
thanks for the feedback!
French One
Well... i just flashed HTC original ROM and then flashed the french rom 1.27.12.17.... dunno exactly how good it is... but till now seems to work fine.... though seems the original Orange UK rom has better camera performance But dunno try the French one or the US one just before the french listed in the radio page.
bandit2xx said:
Well... i just flashed HTC original ROM and then flashed the french rom 1.27.12.17.... dunno exactly how good it is... but till now seems to work fine.... though seems the original Orange UK rom has better camera performance But dunno try the French one or the US one just before the french listed in the radio page.
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By the way i would stay with original radio... problem is i just can´t find it!
bandit2xx said:
By the way i would stay with original radio... problem is i just can´t find it!
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No-one can. It's not available.
Incidentally I use 1.27.12.17. I briefly tried 1.27.12.32, but went back to .12.17 as I found that it was giving me slightly better battery life.
richardS said:
Hi Peeps, wondered if any of you Orange (UK) users had changed their Radio version and if so;
1) which one?
2) How does it rate (reception etc)
thanks for the feedback!
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1.) Test them yourself
2.) Test it yourself.
Radio's / area differ from everybody. Just try out each one and see which one gives you the best result. That is the best way to tell.
Now if you would have said...everybody in London using Orange then that would have been different but just to simply say a whole country whill give you various reults dependent on region, etc. (I understand England is not that big)
There is already a radio sticky related to this post I suggest next to time to follow up there first instead of creating a new thread!
Hi,
Since I unlocked my Kaiser, I upgraded to .32, and it works just fine. I downloaded it from a thread on this site, where all radios are. Don't have the link handy right now, unfortunately.
Cheers.
Hi,
Just go to the radios thread ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349375 ), there you'll find all the information you need plus some more Knowledge about radios, gps, camera...
cheers
I'm using Dutty's 6.1 rom 20/2/8 ver, unlocked as well (Originally locked to Orange).
I upgraded the radio to 1.64.08.21 and no problems - been running for over a week so far. I would even go as far to say that the bluetooth volume has improved in my car with this version.
Go for it - it's worth it!
Hi everyone. Excellent place here. VERY helpful, and the information flows like wine!
I bought a at&t tilt, i have sim unlocked it, and installed about 4 different roms. I have ended up going back to 1.56.405.5 (radio 1.27.12.11) standar HTC rom version. I like it the best.
However, i am having a hard time figuring out info about the radio. The battery life doesnt seem to be the greatest. And my wifi signal strength is shockingly bad, or so it seems anyway.
Am i able to use a better radio with this rom? Can someone recommend something that will will work without any problems, but will be an actual improvement radio?
I've read the wiki, and have tried searching, but like a lot of other people, it almost overload of info. I would really appreciate it, im going out of town, and having this thing run at bettter performance would really make me happy.
I appreciate any recommendations!
ive been using the niki radio in my signature (downloadable in the wiki) in eastern us and have had no problems. letting everyone know where you are would help in recommending a radio
There are a whole bunch of radios, and there is no clear cut winner. As long as your radio is compatible with your rom, then you gotta test out of all the radios compatible with your rom, which one works the best.
aphexacid said:
Hi everyone. Excellent place here. VERY helpful, and the information flows like wine!
I bought a at&t tilt, i have sim unlocked it, and installed about 4 different roms. I have ended up going back to 1.56.405.5 (radio 1.27.12.11) standar HTC rom version. I like it the best.
However, i am having a hard time figuring out info about the radio. The battery life doesnt seem to be the greatest. And my wifi signal strength is shockingly bad, or so it seems anyway.
Am i able to use a better radio with this rom? Can someone recommend something that will will work without any problems, but will be an actual improvement radio?
I've read the wiki, and have tried searching, but like a lot of other people, it almost overload of info. I would really appreciate it, im going out of town, and having this thing run at bettter performance would really make me happy.
I appreciate any recommendations!
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Good idea! lol.......im in Chicago IL USA
Am i able to load the radio since im using 6.0?
aphexacid said:
...Am i able to use a better radio with this rom? Can someone recommend something that will will work without any problems, but will be an actual improvement radio?
to be honest dude radio performances vary by region; something that works great for me here in mclean, va USA probably might not work great for you. It really is just a lot of experimenting with different radios until you find one that gives you good reception and battery life. I believe that the stock htc rom is wm 6 so any wm6 radio will be compatible with the rom; just need to try, try, and try again to see what works best for you.
If you live around metro dc try the radio in my sig... but wait thats a windows mobile 6.1 radio so don't
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My cellular reception is actually really nice! my main issue, is this: i live in a condo, and last night, i went out on my balcony. i was about 15 feet diagonally away from my linksys wrt54GL router, and i wasnt getting ANY wifi. the only thing seperating my phone and router was the wall.
gps signal seems great, with Garmin. Google maps however, i cant get to find a satellite to save my life!
So what everyone is saying is that noone really knows. Im in Miami using T-Mobile and i just installed HardSPL and it worked like a charm. Now i want to install a new rom and theres a bit too much info for me to untagle at this point. So far i gather that some rom's come with different and changable radio versions built in while others work with only 1 version. Now im curious.... how does one install and change these radio settings?
can i just download one and install it?
is there any thread or some sort of complied radio proformances by region? how do these radio versions differ by regional location? i have so many questions....
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So what everyone is saying is that noone really knows. Im in Miami using T-Mobile and i just installed HardSPL and it worked like a charm. Now i want to install a new rom and theres a bit too much info for me to untagle at this point. So far i gather that some rom's come with different and changable radio versions built in while others work with only 1 version. Now im curious.... how does one install and change these radio settings?
can i just download one and install it?
is there any thread or some sort of complied radio proformances by region? how do these radio versions differ by regional location? i have so many questions....
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seems like everyone has got a radio question today but here is my answer to help u:
u need to flash a radio like u flash a rom. when u download a radio it has the customruu.exe w/ it. key is to remember one thing: wm6 roms work w/ wm6 radios and wm6.1 roms work w/ wm6.1 radio only. most roms will work with different radios unless the chef specifically has it matched to one radio only.
for more info plz read kaiser wiki.
p.s. while flashing radio ur phone has to be sync w/ pc
>> I have ended up going back to 1.56.405.5 (radio 1.27.12.11) standar HTC rom version. I like it the best
radios 1.27.xx.xx are the only that will be compatible with WM6.0 ROM. Newer 1.5x.xx.xx and 1.6x.xx.xx radios will cause the following issue:
You are going to lose multimedia sound completely: no ringtones, etc, etc.
In call sound will be likely still functional, but I don't belive that this is something you are looking forward to anyway.
I cannot recommend you the best radio for you ROM, but some would say that : 1.27.12.32 is the one.
I hope it helps.
I'm using dutty's rom WM6.1 WWE Rom. I havent changed the Radio yet. I've been using the ROM for about 2 months now and everything was working fine. But recently my phone won't ring. I can still make and receive calls though. Could the problem be because I haven't changed the Radio?