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Radio roms: Which gives best signal and reception?

Hi I am running NBD v.8.3 wm6 on my mda and I am just hoping someone could tell me what the best possible combination is to create the strongest signal and create the best reception.
I have been using the T-Mobile 2.69.11 radio and was not entirely satisfied. It seemed quieter for some reason and some people could not hear me as well as with the standard T-Mobile 2.26.11 radio.
Right now I am using the Cingular 2.47.11 radio with the XDA Cingular WM6 Radio Fix2 and my signal seems a little stronger. Like when I would be sitting here at my computer, I would only have like 1 bar with the 2.69.11 radio but now I have 2 but that still isnt good enough for me.
Is there any other combination that I have missed or a better radio out there? If anyone has any ideas, please post and let me know.

hey i got the same problem.. i have the tmobile mda and i think reception sucks, i would lose reception while just sitting in my house and at work. so wat i did.. is i flashed my fone with the tmobile 2.26 offical rom and than i flashed it with the XM6r3 rom just cause it works great for me and than i flashed it with the T-Mobile-UK_2.19.11_Radinly ROM and so far it seems to be working great for me i'll have 1 or 2 bars at home but i havent lost reception yet... so give it a try and let me know how it goes..

The T-Mobile-UK_2.19.11_Radinly ROM is the best I've used. I'm even using it now with the latest official Cingular ROM for the 8125 (Wizard 100)

what about the2.47 Cingular one
I cannot find the radio ROM 2.47 anywhere, can you guys help me and as far as 2.19 T-mobile UK only how is the battery life on your phone ?
Thanks

tkdsl said:
I cannot find the radio ROM 2.47 anywhere, can you guys help me and as far as 2.19 T-mobile UK only how is the battery life on your phone ?
Thanks
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mfrazzz links to several radio only updates in his first post of the XM6R3 post..I'm not sure if 2.47 is one of those.

famewolf said:
mfrazzz links to several radio only updates in his first post of the XM6R3 post..I'm not sure if 2.47 is one of those.
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Thank you I checked the post and he does not have that but I also searched the forum and no one posted the file but a good number of people refer to using it. I will check the pantry and see what is there

tkdsl said:
Thank you I checked the post and he does not have that but I also searched the forum and no one posted the file but a good number of people refer to using it. I will check the pantry and see what is there
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I have the file saved on my windows laptop...if you can't locate it PM me and I'll upload to rapidshare or something like that for you to get it.
I think there is still a radio rom directory on the XDA ftp and it might be in there.

I found it and I others as well 2.19/2.21/2.25/2.40/2.47/2.69
here is the Link
http://rapidshare.com/files/42016877/Radios.rar

Hi guys!
Is there any documentation, or just some user white papers, of what the difference between the diff. radio roms are? Does anyone even know, beyond the observation of which one gave their particular phone better reception? I'm curious just for the sake of knowledge
I'm running the 2.25.11 radio rom, on my Cingular 8125, and it works good, but lately I've missed/ignored a couple calls and my phone doesn't have the "missed call" icon on the top bar, my Phone program registers a missed call though.
I want to load up different radio roms and see which one works the best though, however I can't remember the instructions on doing that to my G4 CID-Locked phone. I've been looking around the forums and can't find it. Anyone point me in the right direction?
EDIT: I found the thread I was looking for. This thread talks about another radio rom and a utility to use on G4 phones, which can be found here.
Question for any knowledgeable people reading this. Can the G4 utility mentioned in the other thread I linked to, be used to load cooked roms too? Or is it safe to just load radio roms with it only?

I've tried them all and I've found the 2.61 radio rom to have the best signal.
Download http://www.sendspace.com/file/ofo4xe

.61 also has the most battery drain...

shadezero said:
.61 also has the most battery drain...
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I haven't seen any difference in battery drain, using power drain in batterystatus(latest build).

goofeyass said:
I haven't seen any difference in battery drain, using power drain in batterystatus(latest build).
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I like the cingular stock radio 2.25.11

For me 2.47.11 radio rom works best.....Goodyear Az AT&T

I loaded 2.61 and haven't seen any difference. I may play with the radio roms later. I loaded the bundle referenced earlier. I wonder how much difference a ROM can really make on radio reception though. Still, an interesting experiment.

Yo all! Take a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=306296

Thanks Wizeman! A good thread. He did is homework, it appears.
I've loaded the ROM he recommends but don't see any differece of note. Although a marginal difference would be difficult to see without a more scientific method than mine.
My desk is located where I will get and lose the signal - mostly no signal at all. I still see the occassional signal capture but no more than usual. Again, not very scientific. Nonetheless, I'll use the 2.19 since it doesn't appear to have any less performance and somebody has some measurements to support the case for this ROM.
I am confused though, since signal level is a hardware measurement (electrical measurement) and not a software issue. Oh well.

I am the one who did the measurements starter of that topic and of course still using 2.19.11

Oops ... didn't look, just read the post! I'm sure it was good for a chuckle though.

2.19.11 - Best Radio ROM
Undoubtedly, 2.19.11 is the best radio ROM for reception. I was always alternating between 1 bar and no signal at my work with 2.15 and now with 2.19.11, I have atleast 2-3 bars at all times. I am on T-mobile network.
I had numerous missed calls before but since the last 2 days after changing to 2.19.11 I haven't had one.

Any bricked Kaisers or flashing problems?

I ask because my Hermes currently has "no GSM" and is effectively a wifi PDA now (and even at that is a bit shaky). Now my Hermes was a referb and the issues started gradually, so it my have nothing to do with flashing, still once bitten twice shy!
Just would like some feed back before I go flashing my shiny new beloved Tilt.
Any feedback... comments welcomed.
Thanks....

installed spl on my tilt.
flashed probably 10 different roms so far.
had since release date.
installed a million different apps and configs.
no bricks here.

Good to hear thanks!
Looking at ROMs now... Probably sticking with an AT&T based ROM.
any preferences for AT&T users?

RojasTKD said:
Good to hear thanks!
Looking at ROMs now... Probably sticking with an AT&T based ROM.
any preferences for AT&T users?
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If you just looking for At&t based ROM's there are several to choose from. If you do decide to install one of these ROM's please do a HardSPL. Also if you will also need to upgrade your radio to 1.27.14.09
Depends what you are looking for. These are all At&t builds
Dutty's:Dutty's TouchFlo Rom Beta 2 TILT VERSION
Custel: CUSTEL Series v2.0
XDA:Tilt XDA-Live v 1.2
Here is a link to the radio.
Radio 1.27.14.09

alltheway said:
If you just looking for At&t based ROM's there are several to choose from. If you do decide to install one of these ROM's please do a HardSPL. Also if you will also need to upgrade your radio to 1.27.14.09
Depends what you are looking for. These are all At&t builds
Dutty's:Dutty's TouchFlo Rom Beta 2 TILT VERSION
Custel: CUSTEL Series v2.0
XDA:Tilt XDA-Live v 1.2
Here is a link to the radio.
Radio 1.27.14.09
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Thanks... I will run HardSPL in just a minute.
I've just downloaded many of those ROMs and my give it a shot a bit later.
I have to say coming from a Hermes this Kaiser is a real sweet machine, even with the official AT&T ROM is runs great! It runs so much better than my Hermes.
Not sure what I think about the touch cube. Afraid it will slowing my Tilt down verses not having it. Maybe I'll try it then decide.

Kaiser Radios [OFFICIALLY A DEAD THREAD]

This thread is WAAAAY out of date and I haven't had time to update. Please check out AllTheWay's post here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182

I'd say stickie this,with each having an agreed upon description, i know you can find them in the wiki, but these are some of the most asked questions/problems people come up with in new ROM threads.

As mention in this thread, there is even a newer 1.27.12.29 Radio version out but unfortunately nobody has dumped it yet...

ponch92 said:
There are currently 3 radios out there on the threads:
1. 1.27.14.09
2. 1.27.12.17
3. 1.27.12.11
1. I believe this one is the new ATT only radio that apparently upgrades some reception and performance but I haven't really seen it.
2. I haven't tried this one but I think it should work with all Kaisers, I don't know.
3. This was the radio that came with my ATT TILT and I think the default radio for most of these ROMs.
Does anyone have a better explination and/or performance reports? I thought it would be a good idea to make a thread so people know what these radios are and where to get them.
-Ponch
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AT&T User here in Sacramento, CA.
Honestly 1.27.12.17 radio gives me the best reception over all of them. I also connect to GPRS and 3G quicker. Call quality and overall reception is much improved over the other two radios.

It might be a good idea to mention that Radio 1) 1.27.14.09 is only compatible with the ATT rom aku 0.4.4 build 18128. This is because the the both this radio and rom include new drivers that can only produce sound when used together.
So if someone is using 1.27.14.09 with any other ROM than the unreleased Att build 18128, they will not have any sound.

alltheway said:
AT&T User here in Sacramento, CA.
Honestly 1.27.12.17 radio gives me the best reception over all of them. I also connect to GPRS and 3G quicker. Call quality and overall reception is much improved over the other two radios.
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I understand that the 1.27.12.xx radios can't be used with the AT&T 1.60 rom, but what about the other way around? Can the 1.27.12.17 radio be used with the AT&T 1.60 (stock, not custom) rom? Or does the 1.60 ROM require the newer 1.27.14.09 radio due to the drivers?

Good note, I'll put it in.

mfrazzz said:
I understand that the 1.27.12.xx radios can't be used with the AT&T 1.60 rom, but what about the other way around? Can the 1.27.12.17 radio be used with the AT&T 1.60 (stock, not custom) rom? Or does the 1.60 ROM require the newer 1.27.14.09 radio due to the drivers?
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For some strange reason...The newest ATT ROM requires you to have 1.27.14.09. I don't know specifically why this is the case but if you do not use that ratio with the new AT&T ROM it will not work. Vice Versa if you use that newest AT&T radio 1.27.14.09 with a HTC ROM you will get no sound. Just read the 1st post and it will solve all your problems.

Ah this thread certainly helps clear some things up. I couldn't figure out this whole radio problem - but having it laid out like this makes it clear.
So does anyone know the advantage of the newest AT&T Radio? Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems you have to use an older version of the OS to get a newer version of the radio... ?

It should also be noted that you can get other undesirable effects other besides no sound when using 1.27.14.09 on a ROM that isn't based on AKU 0.4.4
So far I've experienced:
-- Camera not working, shows black image and touchscreen functionality messed up in Camera app (Dutty's New Build + CE OS No.6)
-- Unable to get past HTC logo screen until power timeout, then pixelated garbage fills screen (Gullum Kaiser Touch I)
It might be prudent for ROM cookers to integrate the correct radio into their ROM's for the time being so we don't get a flood of people freaking out that their cameras are broken or their units are bricked.
It remains to be seen if the 1.27.14.09 radio is a one-off, or will be the standard for all new ROMs. Who knows, it may also represent a permanent split between Tilt-based and TYTN II-based ROMs in the future.

rob.ocelot said:
It should also be noted that you can get other undesirable effects other besides no sound when using 1.27.14.09 on a ROM that isn't based on AKU 0.4.4
So far I've experienced:
-- Camera not working, shows black image and touchscreen functionality messed up in Camera app (Dutty's New Build + CE OS No.6)
-- Unable to get past HTC logo screen until power timeout, then pixelated garbage fills screen (Gullum Kaiser Touch I)
It might be prudent for ROM cookers to integrate the correct radio into their ROM's for the time being so we don't get a flood of people freaking out that their cameras are broken or their units are bricked.
It remains to be seen if the 1.27.14.09 radio is a one-off, or will be the standard for all new ROMs. Who knows, it may also represent a permanent split between Tilt-based and TYTN II-based ROMs in the future.
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Right you are. It seems like this .09 radio is an ATT only thing right now. Hopefully we'll all join in radio cooked harmony soon. I haven't noticed much of a difference between the ones I've tried. I'm currently using 1.27.12.17 with Dutty's newest rom and I was using the .09 with CUSTEL's Rom yesterday... I don't see a difference. Some people do.

I just became a senior member, hooray!

ponch92 said:
I just became a senior member, hooray!
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Great contributions so far!

1.27.12.11 vs 1.27.12.17
Hi guys,
1.27.12.17 has better battery life for sure after tested both of them.

hey guys, i have a tilt and just upgraded to the 1.27.12.17 radio. i used to have 2-3 bars at home and now have 4 bars! i'm using tmobile usa btw, in case that helps

omaralt said:
hey guys, i have a tilt and just upgraded to the 1.27.12.17 radio. i used to have 2-3 bars at home and now have 4 bars! i'm using tmobile usa btw, in case that helps
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I noted your find in the first post, thanks!

Just to throw things off even more...It has been reported by users that there is another Radio, but it hasn't been extracted yet.
Congrats on making this a sticky!!
Radio Version 1.27.12.32
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349528

alltheway said:
Just the throw things off even more...It has been reported by users that there is another Radio, but it hasn't been extracted yet.
Congrats on making this a sticky!!
Radio Version 1.27.12.32
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349528
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got it bud, thanks.

ponch92 said:
[*]1.27.12.29
You can read about this recent radio here.
This Radio hasn't made it out to main stream cooking yet but should be a general Kaiser radio that works with ROMs not using the specific ATT build (see 1.27.14.09).
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FYI This is the radio I have on my XDA Stellar as well as it being on the Dutch Orange Kaiser.
When I get my replacement Stellar (dead pixel issues) I'll be flashing Dutty's ROM and will be able to confirm whether it works with this radio.

eyebeebe said:
FYI This is the radio I have on my XDA Stellar as well as it being on the Dutch Orange Kaiser.
When I get my replacement Stellar (dead pixel issues) I'll be flashing Dutty's ROM and will be able to confirm whether it works with this radio.
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Awesome thanks...

Uni Radio reviews

Hi all masters in the forum
I started this to learn more about all diferent radios existing for Uni, and to know from the ones with more knowledge wich has best signal, best batery consumption, etc.
Hope you all be interested in this
Thanks!
Gracias

For me the best radio version is 1.15.00, no crashes no signal lost, for the time with 1.18.00 i have a lot of problems, in one way it also depends and from mobile operator

1.18.00 also gave me nothing but trouble. 1.15.00 and 1.17.00 are by far more stable and crashed but a handful of times on me. That was on a WM 6.1 ROM though and I am not even sure if it really was due to the radio or main ROM. That said, I am not sure if any of the upgrades ever brought any increase in radio performance. The general advice here really is "if it ain't broken don't fix it" because there is (nearly) nothing to be gained.

I'm using radio 1.18.00 here with original T-Mobile UK WM5 from 2005 (3 years ago!). No problems whatsoever.

where can i get radio for uni?i need radio 1.15 unlock please link and i hope not ftp link

beni_joss said:
where can i get radio for uni?i need radio 1.15 unlock please link and i hope not ftp link
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look here

-Jonny- said:
look here
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thanks guys btw i dont know why i cant download from your link.may be my connection too bad.
i just upgraded my uni to radio 1.18 n tomal v12 (my G4 /64mb uni) but sometime(much more) my uni hangup while open messages.

Can i please have some assistance with a radio please?

Hi everyone. Excellent place here. VERY helpful, and the information flows like wine!
I bought a at&t tilt, i have sim unlocked it, and installed about 4 different roms. I have ended up going back to 1.56.405.5 (radio 1.27.12.11) standar HTC rom version. I like it the best.
However, i am having a hard time figuring out info about the radio. The battery life doesnt seem to be the greatest. And my wifi signal strength is shockingly bad, or so it seems anyway.
Am i able to use a better radio with this rom? Can someone recommend something that will will work without any problems, but will be an actual improvement radio?
I've read the wiki, and have tried searching, but like a lot of other people, it almost overload of info. I would really appreciate it, im going out of town, and having this thing run at bettter performance would really make me happy.
I appreciate any recommendations!

ive been using the niki radio in my signature (downloadable in the wiki) in eastern us and have had no problems. letting everyone know where you are would help in recommending a radio

There are a whole bunch of radios, and there is no clear cut winner. As long as your radio is compatible with your rom, then you gotta test out of all the radios compatible with your rom, which one works the best.
aphexacid said:
Hi everyone. Excellent place here. VERY helpful, and the information flows like wine!
I bought a at&t tilt, i have sim unlocked it, and installed about 4 different roms. I have ended up going back to 1.56.405.5 (radio 1.27.12.11) standar HTC rom version. I like it the best.
However, i am having a hard time figuring out info about the radio. The battery life doesnt seem to be the greatest. And my wifi signal strength is shockingly bad, or so it seems anyway.
Am i able to use a better radio with this rom? Can someone recommend something that will will work without any problems, but will be an actual improvement radio?
I've read the wiki, and have tried searching, but like a lot of other people, it almost overload of info. I would really appreciate it, im going out of town, and having this thing run at bettter performance would really make me happy.
I appreciate any recommendations!
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Good idea! lol.......im in Chicago IL USA
Am i able to load the radio since im using 6.0?

aphexacid said:
...Am i able to use a better radio with this rom? Can someone recommend something that will will work without any problems, but will be an actual improvement radio?
to be honest dude radio performances vary by region; something that works great for me here in mclean, va USA probably might not work great for you. It really is just a lot of experimenting with different radios until you find one that gives you good reception and battery life. I believe that the stock htc rom is wm 6 so any wm6 radio will be compatible with the rom; just need to try, try, and try again to see what works best for you.
If you live around metro dc try the radio in my sig... but wait thats a windows mobile 6.1 radio so don't
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My cellular reception is actually really nice! my main issue, is this: i live in a condo, and last night, i went out on my balcony. i was about 15 feet diagonally away from my linksys wrt54GL router, and i wasnt getting ANY wifi. the only thing seperating my phone and router was the wall.
gps signal seems great, with Garmin. Google maps however, i cant get to find a satellite to save my life!

So what everyone is saying is that noone really knows. Im in Miami using T-Mobile and i just installed HardSPL and it worked like a charm. Now i want to install a new rom and theres a bit too much info for me to untagle at this point. So far i gather that some rom's come with different and changable radio versions built in while others work with only 1 version. Now im curious.... how does one install and change these radio settings?
can i just download one and install it?
is there any thread or some sort of complied radio proformances by region? how do these radio versions differ by regional location? i have so many questions....

cyberage29 said:
So what everyone is saying is that noone really knows. Im in Miami using T-Mobile and i just installed HardSPL and it worked like a charm. Now i want to install a new rom and theres a bit too much info for me to untagle at this point. So far i gather that some rom's come with different and changable radio versions built in while others work with only 1 version. Now im curious.... how does one install and change these radio settings?
can i just download one and install it?
is there any thread or some sort of complied radio proformances by region? how do these radio versions differ by regional location? i have so many questions....
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seems like everyone has got a radio question today but here is my answer to help u:
u need to flash a radio like u flash a rom. when u download a radio it has the customruu.exe w/ it. key is to remember one thing: wm6 roms work w/ wm6 radios and wm6.1 roms work w/ wm6.1 radio only. most roms will work with different radios unless the chef specifically has it matched to one radio only.
for more info plz read kaiser wiki.
p.s. while flashing radio ur phone has to be sync w/ pc

>> I have ended up going back to 1.56.405.5 (radio 1.27.12.11) standar HTC rom version. I like it the best
radios 1.27.xx.xx are the only that will be compatible with WM6.0 ROM. Newer 1.5x.xx.xx and 1.6x.xx.xx radios will cause the following issue:
You are going to lose multimedia sound completely: no ringtones, etc, etc.
In call sound will be likely still functional, but I don't belive that this is something you are looking forward to anyway.
I cannot recommend you the best radio for you ROM, but some would say that : 1.27.12.32 is the one.
I hope it helps.

I'm using dutty's rom WM6.1 WWE Rom. I havent changed the Radio yet. I've been using the ROM for about 2 months now and everything was working fine. But recently my phone won't ring. I can still make and receive calls though. Could the problem be because I haven't changed the Radio?