I am using a WM2003SE device and have an application which, for some strange reason, will only run from the external storage card (if installed to main memory or safestore, it will crash the device within a matter of minutes). It runs well from the card, except for the fact that I receive notification errors after waking up the device from sleep which force me to hit the "OK" button to get rid of the error message. (BTW, the application in question continues to work fine even when the error message is on the screen).
I know that this notification error is due to the fact that the device cuts off power to the storage card after a period of time, and I have tried applying the known registry hacks to delay the power-off, but to no avail.
What I am interested in doing is finding some way (through a registry edit or hack) to completely prevent the device from displaying notificaiton errors, or perhaps finding someway to automate the process of hitting the "OK" button so that I won't have to do it 50 times a day.
Please note that I am aware of the procedure for using PHM Pocket PC PowerToys to completely delete scheduled notifications to eliminate notification errors resulting from a bad uninstall. However, this procedure will not work for me since I want to actually keep the offending application installed.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
David
P.S. The application I am trying to run is VGSmail.
Most of the time i dont have any process in the celetask process list.
didnt check whats the limit but guess its because of too low system ressources (memory). But even closing tasks or using oxios hibernate doesnt help until the next soft reset..
any clue how to get the processes back? cause with low memory i would like to kill some processes.. but cant because of too low memory status - chicken and egg
thanx and nice day everybody
Perhaps you accidentaly excluded all the apps, select Show Exclude but becareful what you terminate
no i didnt.. as i said, after reboot i see all the processes.. later after starting more apps its empty..
Same with my SDA, later during the day, the items in the process list in Celetask is gone, and you can only see them again after a reboot. But i think this is more a problem with celetask and not the rom itself.
just refresh the screen by going into the task view then into the process view...
of cause i thought about this but doesnt help either..
And its not a Celetask problem, Binaries Task Manager gives the error and doesnt even show the tasks. WM5 Task Manager also says "Error getting processes"
it seems that there is a bug with the OS.. it happens sometimes when IE is open and eat some RAM or when using Opera. don't know exactly why..
N8falke you were using IE or Opera that time, isn't it?
hmm.. perhaps.. but stopped the task IE and Opera.. if the processes still running (cant see that of cause because of the problem) it might be the reason.. will keep that in mind, thanx
Hello All,
I am running
ROM: TNT.1933 TouchFLO Edition
I/SPL is 2.25
Radio is 2.19.11 and
OS is 11.0.0.1
TNT comes with Oxios Hibernate and CloseApps, which seems to have very naughty behavior on my system. I can only ever open one application, even if I just switch to “Today” from an open app, the app I was in closes (not shown in Task Manager, truly closed). This stinks. Tried to delete the .exe files, but can’t – they’re marked as “ROM” and “READ ONLY” and can’t make a change to those – just reverts right back. Also can’t kill the prog via task manager because it doesn’t show up there. Please please please tell me how to get rid of this program bundle – I really really hate it!
Thanks!
-tynk-
Both oxious closeapp and hibernate only do something when YOU run them...they run once and exit...the difference between the two is closeapps tries to close ALL apps...hibernate tries to free as much memory as it can without closing any apps.
Neither would be closing any apps without your knowledge.
that's what I thought, too!
But soft reset or shutdown/restart, and upon loading the today screen, the progs up and running (can see the closeapps bars in upper left corner of the screen). I checked startup and it isn't in there (even checked "show all files" in case it's hidden, but nothing).
From my research (yes, I did try figuring this out on my own - other than a couple mentions of instability with these two progs and WM6, there wasn't any good help to be found ), I thought if I didn't click on either icon, it wouldn't start but that doesn't seem to be the case here.
They are somehow loading/starting automatically, so even if I could change the attributes so they were 'delete-able', if I can't get them to stop running (again, neither is visible in taskmanager), I won't be able to delete them! Arrrggg!
Thanks for the response, though! Any other thoughts?
First, any programs built into the rom can NOT be removed. You could create dummy files (create a blank text file and rename it to the name of the file you want to "remove" and it will be used instead of the one in the rom).
For them to be starting automatically as you claim, then there has to be either a link for them in the \Windows\Startup folder, or an entry in the registry (look in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\init , or just do a search with a registry editor).
But as Famewolf indicated, what you are describing is NOT how either of these programs work. They don't stay in memory and continue to run. You start them, they try to free up memory (in two different ways depending on which one you run) and then put up a dialog to show you what they did. After you close the dialog then they exit.
I'm not doubting the behavior you are seeing on your phone, but I am doubting that you are looking in the right direction claiming that the Oxios apps are causing this. As I tell people that run my own roms... If things don't work for you, then switch to a different rom. Also, if you've installed ANYTHING on the rom, then make sure what you have installed is working properly and isn't what is causing the issue. If you hardreset or reflash, and do NOT install anything else, do you still see this same behavior?
Finally, due to the odd nature of your problem, did you by chance install the rom, then do some sort of restore from like spb backup or sprite backup or similar? If so, you've most likely screwed up the registry as you can not restore a backup from one rom to another one.
Good luck, and hope maybe this helps you in figuring out what is going on.
famewolf said:
Both oxious closeapp and hibernate only do something when YOU run them...they run once and exit...
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NOT TRUE!
oxios with skull icon(i forgot its name, because i am not using it, only hibernate..)WILL close ANY app that is running in background!!!!!
so be aware of this.,
nothin said:
NOT TRUE!
oxios with skull icon(i forgot its name, because i am not using it, only hibernate..)WILL close ANY app that is running in background!!!!!
so be aware of this.,
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guys, both of you are right
first, both oxios apps will be started after the request from the user, then do their job and exit. The skull-one will close apps, the snowflake (or what it is) will free memory. But none of the application will be running in background, closing everything the user starts
His observation is correct, silly as it may sound.
For a long time i wondered why my apps would keep closing (i was using mbutton so i could see which apps were open), as soon as i opened another app, the app which went to background would get closed, even though I would have plenty of program memory free. I started tracking the reason for this and soon found out that this behaviour started as soon as i executed oxios hibernate. It would keep happening until i did a soft-reset, after which the system would work fine until (guess what!) i ran the hibernate app again!
Best thing to do is get the sktools lite version and use its free ram shortcut. Or better yet, forget about free ram at all, remove all indicators on your today screen etc etc, and surprisingly you'll never be worried about free ram and your system will work smoothly enough. If you're so worried about free ram, schedule your system to automatically soft reset once a day during the night.
ammarr said:
His observation is correct, silly as it may sound.
For a long time i wondered why my apps would keep closing (i was using mbutton so i could see which apps were open), as soon as i opened another app, the app which went to background would get closed, even though I would have plenty of program memory free. I started tracking the reason for this and soon found out that this behaviour started as soon as i executed oxios hibernate. It would keep happening until i did a soft-reset, after which the system would work fine until (guess what!) i ran the hibernate app again!
Best thing to do is get the sktools lite version and use its free ram shortcut. Or better yet, forget about free ram at all, remove all indicators on your today screen etc etc, and surprisingly you'll never be worried about free ram and your system will work smoothly enough. If you're so worried about free ram, schedule your system to automatically soft reset once a day during the night.
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I use oxios hibernate ALL THE TIME..I even have it on a quick launcher button....having apps close on their own is NOT normal behavior and I'll say again oxios hibernate is not causing this..I keep palringo and other apps running all the time in background...either your registry had issues or your rom did because it works fine here...I sometimes go days without rebooting the phone because of oxios hibernate.
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I use oxios hibernate ALL THE TIME..I even have it on a quick launcher button....having apps close on their own is NOT normal behavior and I'll say again oxios hibernate is not causing this..I keep palringo and other apps running all the time in background...either your registry had issues or your rom did because it works fine here...I sometimes go days without rebooting the phone because of oxios hibernate.
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I have traced the problem specifically back to oxios hibernate. It does not happen with sktools free ram. For some reason the WM_HIBERNATE message doesn't die and keeps killing all background applications. I've had the problem on the stock wm5, ppctuning's superrom, wrcx1 etc etc (basically all ROMs i've tried).
There could be a reason why this is just happening for some devices, i dunno, but the culprit definitely is oxios hibernate.
Have you tried to check your softkeys? I had a problem with them and even if the label says an app when I pressed the button ot activated another thing... well that happeneded sometimes... now it works correctly...
Hi All,
Thanks for all the helpful responses. I really am stumped on this one. Checked my registry (did searches for 'oxios', 'hibernate', and 'close') and found nothing. Yet after a soft-reset or normal restart, it's up and running again, and I am unable to open multiple apps or switch from one to the other and back.
I did have an odd thought - I am assuming the program in question is Oxios CloseApps, but maybe I'm wrong? I can't access any of the options on it, so just occurred to me to check. On the today screen, upper right corner, next to the time is a set of 3 small horizontal bars (forming a box) with a small up arrow. Tapping this yields a single line iconic menu that has a set of three boxes, a wrench, and a 'memory' bar with %. If I click on the boxes or wrench, nothing happens. If I click on the memory icon, it takes me to my Memory setting, showing how much storage and program memory I have, my storage card, and my running progs (no, this is not ever listed there - if only it were that easy!) This is CloseApps, right?
Thanks again for all the help!
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Hi All,
Thanks for all the helpful responses. I really am stumped on this one. Checked my registry (did searches for 'oxios', 'hibernate', and 'close') and found nothing. Yet after a soft-reset or normal restart, it's up and running again, and I am unable to open multiple apps or switch from one to the other and back.
I did have an odd thought - I am assuming the program in question is Oxios CloseApps, but maybe I'm wrong? I can't access any of the options on it, so just occurred to me to check. On the today screen, upper right corner, next to the time is a set of 3 small horizontal bars (forming a box) with a small up arrow. Tapping this yields a single line iconic menu that has a set of three boxes, a wrench, and a 'memory' bar with %. If I click on the boxes or wrench, nothing happens. If I click on the memory icon, it takes me to my Memory setting, showing how much storage and program memory I have, my storage card, and my running progs (no, this is not ever listed there - if only it were that easy!) This is CloseApps, right?
Thanks again for all the help!
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the program you are talking about is
HTC Task-Manager 2.0 / x button
go to start - settings - system - task manager
steph
I recently flashed my uni to tomal 8.2 and I love the automatic memory management, I no longer have to soft reset to get more memory, however I think this is preventing me from being able to run background (minimized) applications, such as mortplayer behind tomtom like I could before. Is there a way to do this, even if it means temporarily disabling the automatic memory management?
you can temporarly close the task manager by long pressing the [x] upper right and choosing functions---exit
for disabling it permanently, from the same menu above, go to preferences---startup (in the bottom line) and choose disable, or just delete the link wktask.lnk from windows\startup folder
I'm not sure that the memory management and the task manager are the same thing.
Cheers,
Steve.
ops, my fault... thought the problem was minimizing the application instead of closing them, didn't pay much attention at the question.
anyway, i haven't experienced problems with apps in background, but i don't use tomtom and mortscript, so i'm no help for you, sorry for the useless answer.
Hello android experts,
I have a mobile with no so much internal memory as wished, and so installed Link2SD to move programs to the SD card,
problem is, each time the phone get reseted, some of the apps and libraries of apps goes back to the main memory given the mobile with almost 0 internal memory free
the solution is as easy as go back to link2sd and relink apps, but ...
The annoying "storage full, no space" pop up and keep closing every single open app, so relink the apps becomes a rat-race against the annoying pop up
is any way to disable /eliminate this pop up ?
(so I have time to relink the apps)
I know is no so polite to repeat a question, but take it as a beg you !!
I try to search for this kind of problematic, but nothing I can found,