just installed this onto my phone.
seems to work well apart from the top line where is shows you what you have typed. the graphic (or background, not sure which it should be) is all corrupt.
is it a duff file, or has anyone had the same problem?
I don't recall that issue, but there are a few issues with this thing it seems, so most people don't seem to use it id ont think.
I wish it worked wel, i realy liked it (the keyboard layout. dont care much for the word suggestion stuff though and whatever else it does. plus the autopop up for address in email doesnt work anymore with it)
Resolve touch keyboard scrambling in Dutty Dual Touch v.3
I had the same issues that you mention, so I installed the .cab file 'HTC Touch Keyboard + Keypad' which you can download from Dutty's cab repository here; http://www.cinetsystems.com/xda/Kaiser Cab Collections/HTC Touch Keyboard + Keypad.cab
After installing that cab and restarting the formerly scambled suggestion/auto-correct line above the keyboard is now displaying properly.
I still have issues with the software - in particular on some programs (particularly Opera Mobile) where I get a full (touch-style) keyboard rather than the keypad or touch keyboard.
Good luck!
störm
Thanks for that, just installed it and it works a treat
Hi guys!
I got my TP a week ago and this is my first post on this nice forum.
I think the phone is amazing; it's my first WM powered device, however there's something bothering me about the Software Keyboard. When I'm using the hardware keyboard and access a textbox on the screen (especially in the Opera browser) the software keyboard automatically pops up, although I don't really need it.
This feature may be very useful on devices which do not have a built in hardware keyboard, like the Diamond. But on TP I find it highly annoying.
Does anyone know if there's a way to disable this behavior?
dowload Advanced Config 3.2, install and change Input/Auto deploy SIP to Disable..
Thank you very much, that solved my problem. I had ACT installed, but I didn't notice this setting so far.
Edit: however, this setting does not affect the behavior of the Opera browser; maybe they'll fix this in a future version.
UR welcome..
every1 was a noob..i still AM..;-)
Hey! good tip! I never knew this...I was just living with the software keyboard always popping up.
Thanks!!!
don't know why, but i started to re-appear to me in some apps, even when i disable it..
Try this:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sip>:
Create or change DWORD TurnOffAutoDeploy from 0 to 1
(Sorry, this is exactly what Advanced Config does)
Hello, guys!
I just found the solution for this problem.
There's a program called nullkeyboard (download from http://personales.ya.com/beemer/nullkeyboard.htm)
It's a SIP keyboard that does nothing (doesn't popup) and I think it's great to use it when browsing with opera or when using other apps that don't know that setting you mentioned.
I tried it and it works fine.
Sorry - I don't know where else to ask, and I've been asking around for years it seems.
I have more then one 3rd party sip on my ppc, (Tengo Free, Slideit, Touchpal, Phraze-It). I use Sipchange to pick which one I use when I reboot.
However, when I change from one 3rd party sip to another, most of the time I get the standard keyboard instead. I am unable to simply switch back and forth between the sips.
The default ones (like Letter Recognizer) all work fine, it's only the 3rd party ones that have the problem. It also doesn't matter which one sipchange makes the default.
Hard-resetting doesn't help, and I've had this problem on my current htc advantage, a samsung i730, and a samsung i760 - so the pocketpc doesn't seem to matter.
Is this just me, or is this some sort of windows mobile bug?
If no one has a fix, can anyone with more then one 3rd party sip tell me if they have this same problem?
Or does everyone just stick to one of them for all times (or built in keyboards).
Personally i tried most of the third party offerings and ended up using CooTek TouchPal as it was one of the few that would even load reliably on my Trinity. Most of the time i would select an alternate and it would fail to load, or it would load and then if i swapped to the standard one i was unable to swap back. The CooTek one swaps in and out no problems and is, well for me anyway, finger friendly.
I use both Resco Keyboard and TouchPal and they work fine.
One thing i suggest is, that you try to increase the delay to like 25 secs.
sometimes the OS is mixed up with all the stuff loading up that it will load the default sip AFTER loading the 3rd party one..
let me know if it works
deedee said:
Most of the time i would select an alternate and it would fail to load, or it would load and then if i swapped to the standard one i was unable to swap back.
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That sounds like the same problem I am having - so it could be an os bug that doesn't show up often since I imagine most people stick to 1 keyboard.
BTW, agreed for the most part on Touchpal, my only gripe (which I hear they're working on) is a better landscape mode (I tend to work mostly in landscape).
Thanks for the reply!!
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I use both Resco Keyboard and TouchPal and they work fine.
One thing i suggest is, that you try to increase the delay to like 25 secs.
sometimes the OS is mixed up with all the stuff loading up that it will load the default sip AFTER loading the 3rd party one..
let me know if it works
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Which delay do you mean? Is there a setting for when you switch sip's that I'm not aware of.
OOC, why both Resco & Touchpal - do you use one or the other for different reasons?
I still prefer SlideIt over anything (cause I'm mostly a stylus guy), but sometimes - like when I'm in a car & need to type just a word or two - that I would take any keyboard with big buttons... as long as I can switch back & forth between them (which is my problem).
I use resco keyboard for hebrew and touchpal for english (i WISH touchpal had hebrew..)
in SIPChange you can set a delay...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=271008
that's what you're using right?
I'm using sipchange to change my default keyboard on bootup, which works perfectly.
My problem is switching between say Resco & Touchpal while it's running. (in this example)
F'instance, say I have Touchpal set to be the default in sipchange. I soft-reset, and Touchpal works fine.
Later, I try to switch to Resco. Instead of the Resco keyboard coming up - I get the standard vanilla windows keyboard instead. I can switch back to Touchpal - but the only way I can get Resco to work is by using sipchange, and soft-resetting.
SOMETIMES I can switch to Resco when Touchpal is the sipchange default. When this works, I can never switch back to Touchpal - when I do I get the standard vanilla keyboard again, and can't get Touchpal to work until a soft-reset.
Note that it doesn't seem to matter which sip's I use either - just using Resco & Touchpal in this example.
Are you able to switch back & forth as often as you would like?
Sometimes after first loading a keyboard (after install and before soft reset) You may have problems, but never have i really had problems after a soft reset. What version of wm have you been having problems with.
Currently with a HTC Advantage x7501 running Windows Mobile 6.0.
I also did a backup, hard-reset the device, installed Touchpal & SlideIT & had the same issue. I hard-reset, and installed other combinations of Touchpal / SlideIT / Tengo Free / Phraze-IT with the same problems every time (grr).
I used to have this problem on my older Samsung i730, but ignored the problem since I usually used the built-in keyboard. (I think os was 5.something)
Finally, I borrowed my wife's Samsung i760 & had the same problem with a hard-reset as well. (6.0)
Other then the gps on this unit having a weak antenna (hard to get a lock) - this is the only thing that causes me to regularly bash my head into the wall (ppc-speaking)
EXInput
Try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2640816
Cheers
andrew-in-woking
I've looked at that keyboard, but can't say I'm too interested in it. Touchpal simply looks better.
Will this sip fix the problem I mention of using multiple 3rd party sips?
I feel this is unique enough to merit its own thread and I looked at the first 30 pages for anything similar and found nothing.
What do you think would make the dock more worth it? Not necessarily more of a netbook, because if you want a netbook then buy a netbook, but more along the lines of functionality that should be there or is already there but needs improving. This is not really a gripe session, more of a brainstorm and also helping to make suggestions to other people if a solution already exists/comes into existence. But do try to keep it reasonable; keep your expectations realistic of an Android-running device.
I'm mainly talking about Android, since as far as I know, no other OS is stable just yet, but hardware is also a determining factor. Also, since a lot of Android is the apps, I think it would be alright to list an app functionality that would be nice (i.e., a video player, an SSH client, etc.)
And hopefully it would be nice if we followed the format of
What: What it is
Why: Why you believe it is necessary.
I'll start with a few I've noticed (I run Prime 1.6 [I think] currently):
Keyboard should provide all basic functionality
I found it odd that there's a menu button, but no app-switcher key on the keyboard. I find it strange that that core piece of functionality still requires the use of the touch screen.
Word processor should focus on keyboard
Just a bunch of stupid things that make it incredibly annoying to use and would never fly in a desktop processor.
-Ctrl+S should save
-Shift should be able to select
-Bullet indenting is horrid; should use tab
Dock-friendly SSH client is desperately needed
(Hear me out. I don't expect a full IDE at all, but a simple SSH client really is not too much to ask. Again, it works perfectly, just not at all designed for the dock.)
ConnectBot is ok, but it just fails if you have a full keyboard and want to use it as a simple SSH client. Shift acts as capslock, there is no way to do many shortcuts such as Ctrl+O (save in GNU Nano), and many characters like * can't be typed directly into the console.
That's what I've noticed so far. Hopefully you guys will think this is a good idea and chip in your opinions.
-notbryant.
I want to jump around in a document if possible.
I use the regular arrow keys way more than I do in Windows.
Also I'd like to see more Ctrl+combinations available.
notbryant said:
I feel this is unique enough to merit its own thread and I looked at the first 30 pages for anything similar and found nothing.
What do you think would make the dock more worth it? Not necessarily more of a netbook, because if you want a netbook then buy a netbook, but more along the lines of functionality that should be there or is already there but needs improving. This is not really a gripe session, more of a brainstorm and also helping to make suggestions to other people if a solution already exists/comes into existence. But do try to keep it reasonable; keep your expectations realistic of an Android-running device.
I'm mainly talking about Android, since as far as I know, no other OS is stable just yet, but hardware is also a determining factor. Also, since a lot of Android is the apps, I think it would be alright to list an app functionality that would be nice (i.e., a video player, an SSH client, etc.)
And hopefully it would be nice if we followed the format of
What: What it is
Why: Why you believe it is necessary.
I'll start with a few I've noticed (I run Prime 1.6 [I think] currently):
Keyboard should provide all basic functionality
I found it odd that there's a menu button, but no app-switcher key on the keyboard. I find it strange that that core piece of functionality still requires the use of the touch screen.
Word processor should focus on keyboard
Just a bunch of stupid things that make it incredibly annoying to use and would never fly in a desktop processor.
-Ctrl+S should save
-Shift should be able to select
-Bullet indenting is horrid; should use tab
Dock-friendly SSH client is desperately needed
(Hear me out. I don't expect a full IDE at all, but a simple SSH client really is not too much to ask. Again, it works perfectly, just not at all designed for the dock.)
ConnectBot is ok, but it just fails if you have a full keyboard and want to use it as a simple SSH client. Shift acts as capslock, there is no way to do many shortcuts such as Ctrl+O (save in GNU Nano), and many characters like * can't be typed directly into the console.
That's what I've noticed so far. Hopefully you guys will think this is a good idea and chip in your opinions.
-notbryant.
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Alt+Tab works as an app switcher in the newer firmwares. They also added Shift+Arrow Keys to highlight text easier. This pretty much made the keyboard usable for me.
The more Windows shortcuts they implement the happier I will be.
Required dock features:
What: Crap load more battery. 11000mAh minimum.
Why: Useful
What: Programmable Hot Keys, menu hooks for any application.
Why: Speed. Touch is faster than mouse, hot keys would be faster than menu.
What: Hardware NIC port
Why: Sometimes wired wins over wireless.
What: Screen Orientation Controls (options - see Orientation Control app)
Why: Dock screws with orientation. Unscrew it.
What: Barrel charging vs ASUS 40 pin cable nightmare
Why: Fu*k proprietary charging.
I could think of more, but this is a start.
I'd love it if ctrl-w or ctrl-t in the Browser didn't sometimes "double-tap" and close (or open) two tabs at once. Maybe they should fix the dock keyboard problems before adding any more shortcuts. Though I would fully support and use more of the "standard" keyboard shortcuts if they implemented them.
Also, it would be nice if the apps that "lock" into portrait mode (I'm looking at YOU, ESPN, among others) could be "unlocked" when it's docked.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using xda premium
Bjd223 said:
Alt+Tab works as an app switcher in the newer firmwares. They also added Shift+Arrow Keys to highlight text easier. This pretty much made the keyboard usable for me.
The more Windows shortcuts they implement the happier I will be.
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I did not know that, thanks for the info. Does it work the same way as the app switcher button on the screen? Also, isn't the only Alt key on the right of the spacebar? Maybe I'm just being picky, but I use my Thumb+Ring Finger for my traditional keyboard.
As for the Shift+Arrow keys, I just used it the other day in class running Prime 1.6 and Shift+Arrow didn't work for me in Polaris.
@Bob Smith42
I would like some hotkeys; There were 2 on my Eee netbook and I found those pretty useful, and on Android it would be more so. They should have done that instead of the Camera, Browser, and Settings buttons.
Wired seems a bit beyond the scope of an Android powered device, IMO.
I concur about proprietary charging.
notbryant said:
I did not know that, thanks for the info. Does it work the same way as the app switcher button on the screen? Also, isn't the only Alt key on the right of the spacebar? Maybe I'm just being picky, but I use my Thumb+Ring Finger for my traditional keyboard.
As for the Shift+Arrow keys, I just used it the other day in class running Prime 1.6 and Shift+Arrow didn't work for me in Polaris.
@Bob Smith42
I would like some hotkeys; There were 2 on my Eee netbook and I found those pretty useful, and on Android it would be more so. They should have done that instead of the Camera, Browser, and Settings buttons.
Wired seems a bit beyond the scope of an Android powered device, IMO.
I concur about proprietary charging.
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Yeah you have to use the right Alt which sucks for a little while til you get used to it. If the Alt and search keys were switched it would be better. If you root I think someone could easily remap the search key to alt also, but I am not 100% on this.
I am not sure if the shift+arrow keys thing is an OS thing or an application dependant thing. I do it in the email app primarily and never really tried it anywhere else yet.
For those wanting a wired ethernet port; one of the guys around here got a USB to ethernet adapter to work, but some applications don't use it correctly but I think someone will work it out. Not sure if you need root for it though.
The first thing we would need is the hotkeys for our devices, and other ways to use the keyboard. then we could worry about added functionality. does anybody know where one of tose lists could be found
found one that is being worked on
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1071739
What: Language switching (Alt+LShift)
Why: For those of us who are multi-lingual switching between languages also affects dictionary and spell check features in applications. Being able to do that with a keyboard switch rather than tapping ths screen and selecting from a menu would be more efficient.
Ability to swap functionality around a bit.
I'd love to be able to set the '<-' back button to ESCAPE (without using the root tricks to remap). Perhaps FUNCTION-'<-' is escape (or remapped to back)
More controllable key bindings
That whole top line of shortcuts should be more configurable. When using VNC/RDP, they'd be more use to me as standard windows function keys. Ability to quickly select them would be great.
The rest? Not too fussed, works great for everything else.
Asus were /really/ smart doing what they did. Hopefully they keep this standard (or even license the connector out).
Docking station variations
I'd still like to see variations of the keyboard. I might buy 2 with different functionality. Need the standard keyboard? Chuck the TF in and go. Doing a lot of remote work today? Drop it into the 'windows key compatibility' dock and use that.
Bigger/Heavier dock with bigger (and I mean monstrous!) keyboard.
One with RFID reader in/biometric scanners. (ok, getting niche here, but you're after what WE want!)
Keyboard dock that's another screen. TF drops into it, gets the extra battery life, but there's another display there, like the new Sony one appears to work. More screen real estate, on-screen keyboard if needed.
Game-board. stub joysticks, arcade quality fire buttons, nice trackpad area in middle. Would make an awesome portable MAME device.
Heck, can see a market for JUST a battery pack, no keys, trackpad, just a battery pack for the tablet screen.
Highend dock
Larger battery,
another few USB ports, maybe even a firewire port,
CD/DVD (if they get a linux kernal with the support compiled in).
Backlit keyboard
Turn it into a full on netbook. 250ish bucks.
Can't get over how cool a concept the docking is, sure there's a market for more flexibility. They just /really/ need to license it. Could be a long term money earner for them if there's others paying to make these things.
Oh, and whilst going off the point, might as well really go for it;
A new keyboard dock with (or a slot for) a HUGE HD(well, SSD preferred, power considerations really). Take the TF around, take some pics, small vids, drop into the dock, do some simple video work with a 200gb SSD to save to.
(and/or use that huge HD for some serious film/music/mame roms storage)
Something very important to me that I would like to see implemented is better text selection.
The cursors selection is good for touch screen, but it kinda defeats the point of having a touch pad.
I'd like to be able to select text with the touch pad cursor, just like you do on a regular PC with drag and drop...
It's really something mandatory for me as I copy paste very often between browsers, terminals and so on ..
Also a way to deactivate page scrolling with the touch pad, for example it's currently impossible to do a drag and drop of something on the screen , without triggering the scrolling of the page.
(usefull for cropping pictures in a web browser and such for example, or any other operation that requires drag and drop)
Alt+tab works ok in the latests firmwares, but it only works while being on the home screen, which is kinda a pain.
It's usefull to switch between applications, but it doesn't work that way.
Portrait
It would really smart if you had two connector sides on the tablet so you could choose between landscape (the present) or portrait mode if you want to use the Transformer for more serious writing assignments.
@Bjd223
I think things like shift-arrows are application dependent, which is why it's that much more of a disappointment that Polaris doesn't have it since it is supposed to be centered around manipulating text.
@Jyveafk
You should really try to use the format that I suggested; your post looks like a wall of text.
@Kumabjorn
If you really wanted that, a bluetooth keyboad might be more up your alley.
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@Bjd223
@Kumabjorn
If you really wanted that, a bluetooth keyboad might be more up your alley.
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I actually have a BT keyboard as well, just not any stand for the Eee Pad yet. It would just be nice to carry it around as one unit and then take it out of the dock and reinsert it in portrait mode. This is after all a wish list, and I'm sure people from ASUS lurk around here.
Kumabjorn said:
What: Language switching (Alt+LShift)
Why: For those of us who are multi-lingual switching between languages also affects dictionary and spell check features in applications.
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It seems to be there for Russian, only the shortcut is Ctrl+Space.
The way this works is quite tricky, though. First, you need to use the keyboard icon in notification area to switch to the keyboard to "ASUS Russian" (if needed, adding it as an option in Input Settings). After that, Ctrl+Space can be used to switch between that and English. I don't know if that is there for all non-English layouts, or only non-Latin ones, though.
Also, Ctrl+Shift will pop up the usual keyboard selector menu, which can then be navigated using arrow keys. Still too verbose, but at least you don't have to take your hands off the keys to tap the screen.
I don't ask for much, just a...
backlit keyboard...
Kumabjorn said:
It would really smart if you had two connector sides on the tablet so you could choose between landscape (the present) or portrait mode if you want to use the Transformer for more serious writing assignments.
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Hmm, interesting. I think having a 'universal' connector, for keyboards and other things is viable, and if 'other' things to plug in, having a base/side port to 'plug' to could work well. For keyboards (and the rotating around view IS great for writing), and... other devices we've not thought of yet.
Here http://code.google.com/p/connectbot/issues/detail?id=459 you can find a patched version of connectbot ssh app with correct support for dock keys (control, tab etc).
I like it very much..
Kumabjorn said:
What: Language switching (Alt+LShift)
Why: For those of us who are multi-lingual switching between languages also affects dictionary and spell check features in applications. Being able to do that with a keyboard switch rather than tapping ths screen and selecting from a menu would be more efficient.
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Spell check? MY transformer doesn't seem to do any spell checking at all when docked. Am I missing a setting? If not I vote for some type of spell check.