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Hi,
While I am waiting for my MDA Pro to arrive, I have been reading a lot in the Universal section (have a BA myself).
May I ask for some valid reasons why someone would want to use homebrewed WM6 releases instead of official/customized WM5?
I do understand the fun it is to try out new things, but is it really worth it? I did not find many posts that would clear this question.
Thanks,
vma
WM6.0...
The new look and a lot faster device...
Is there any feature that won't be available with WM6, that did work fine in WM5?
Thanks,
vma
Video call isn't working yet.
Rolud said:
The new look and a lot faster device...
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The way I see it, WM6 may or may not work for you and may or may not do it for you. Try it. You can always go back to WM5. Most people don't.....
Well .... the simple answer is that I did a lot of searching and reading, and finally tried it out for myself.
I asked this very question a while ago right here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1130569&postcount=88
And came to the follwowing conclusion:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1155497&postcount=89
In the conclusion, the thing about the Bluetooth Stack / Voice Command - it was actually Voice Command that was the problem and this issue was fixed in Jrwightmcps' 2.02.00 WWE http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=297256
Crossbow ONLY!
Tell you the truth... i see the new WM6 is better eye-catching GUI not to mention the enhancement in the functionality and other usability such as email related functions. I know that MS wont just upgrade for no obvious reason nor for desktop OS compatibility.
Yet i reckon i wont -never- go back to magento! Crossbow ONLY!
@nvatvani:
Indeed your posts where the only ones I read, that contained some usefull info about the subject.
No offense to all the other members of course!
I was simply wondering about what to do when my MDA Pro arrives: replace the German firmware with a WWE WM5 one or go straight ahead to WM6 without even looking at WM5.
Also, I had some problems with my Blue Angel, when I tried WM5 on it: it may have been a coincidence, but one day after the upgrade the screen went mad and totally messed up. Only 1 Hardreset in about 100 tries would bring it back to normal for some period of time and even reflashing it with WM5 or 2003SE would not make it work normal again. The screen would get messed up suddenly for no particular reason. At the end I had to send it in for repair, which was actually a good thing, as I complained about the loose stylo and bad working hardkeys, all within warranty. I got a new key-pcb, backside and they reflashed the device with 2003SE. I posted this issue in the BA forum, but got no usefull hint. This means I am a little scared of upgrading to unofficial releases.
Other than that, I have no problems with flashing, as I do that on my other hobby (satellite receivers) frequently, including JTAG-operations for repairing bricked devices. The same applies to games consoles. (Note: I do not sell or benefit commercially from that activity and my goal is not to get illegal software or TV - not that you guy's get the wrong idea about me).
Anyway, thanks for your replies!
Cheers,
vma
What Windows Mobile 5.0 AKU 2.0 has and Windows Mobile 6 (the cooked ones, having tried them all) doesn't have, according to my experiences:
1. Videocalling - at least not a proper one
2. Bluetooth Dial Up Networking (the DUN profile)
3. Wireless Modem (yet some WM6 ROM's have it, although without shortcut in the start menu)
4. Cyberon Voice Dial by default (some WM6 ROM's have it by default, others will need a 500kB CAB to activate it)
The reason why I went back to "good old" WM5 is mainly the reliability. Ok, the OS may be a bit slower here and there, but it has all the functionality (e.g. videocalls and Bluetooth DUN), and NEVER hangs. It just always works and that's what I desperately need right now.
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The things Windows Mobile 6 has for me that 5.0 hasn't which I miss the most:
1. High resolution browsing in the normal Internet Explorer (I don't want to use alternatives)
2. HTML email support
3. The impressive speed of the OS
Applications like WM6's Windows Live and the superb Remote Desktop Client are also available for WM5, so I don't need to miss those, otherwise I sure would, and then I might have sticked with WM6.
The new sounds and GUI are great, but I don't really miss them, since that's not a true functional thing.
Having WM5 up and running again, without freezes and memory leaking and with full HTC Universal functionality, is enough for me to be happy with it and to stick with it. If there ever will be a ROM that actually ADDS Windows Mobile 6 on top of all of this (without a single registry tweak or CAB fix needed), then it's the time for me to upgrade again.
If such a ROM will ever see the daylight, since it won't be officially available for the Universal, I don't know. I think the HTC X7500 (Athena) will be there sooner (April 2007 over here), and that one will have a official WM6 upgrade for sure. That'll be my next one, so until then: WM5 for my Universal!
So far for my opinion.
why do I use WM6
vma said:
Hi,
While I am waiting for my MDA Pro to arrive, I have been reading a lot in the Universal section (have a BA myself).
May I ask for some valid reasons why someone would want to use homebrewed WM6 releases instead of official/customized WM5?
I do understand the fun it is to try out new things, but is it really worth it? I did not find many posts that would clear this question.
Thanks,
vma
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To be honest, I used them all and later delteted them after 5 2 hours. They leak a lot, ram is at minimum and useless third party applications, and a lot fo thing sodn't really work or missing (I just want a vanill aone without 3rd party applications).
Except for one rom, Darkforce, it is fast and furious, and so far I have using it for two days; battery usage is good, and no leaks. However, no video calling, and no way to set com ports for bluetooth devices. any1 has this problem?
However, common to all ROMS, no video calling, old calculator, speed dial messed up (some work and some don't), wireless connection bubble missing (yes you can install a cab but I don't want to do that).
<Mind you, contrary to other reports, I never had any freezes with any rom.
The thing that attracts me is HTML in email, High resolution mode in explorer, better remote desktop connectivity.
So I thhink I am sticking with DarkForce ROM, so far so good.
Thx
I found a cooked wm5 rom with a iphone look!!!!
It's WWE (us english actualy) and it's full of tweaks and add-ons! check it out
check this site for screenshots http://www.cnsmartphone.com/29170/viewspace_2061.html
My first findings:
AKU 3.0
.netCF 2.0 in rom
Wm5torage
Great camera software
strange but can't find pocket msn or msn messenger anywhere....
new icons
nice apple logo instead of the windows logo.
great homescreen (very iphone)
celetask included (just press home key during 2 seconds but it's in chinese)
A very nice clock near the batery indicator.
Quite fast and stable.
i'll post more later for now it's time to reisntall my apps and games.
PS: please someone find us a way to have T9 in this rom...
here is babelfish.altavista.com translation:
---- Is suitable the type based on Singapore 2.0.11.0 edition: HTC the Tornado type (586W broadcast plug-in unit has not installed) ---- the partial systems document to take from HTC S620 (Aku3.0), the document edition has the promotion ---- ROM document is OS are partial, nbf document format ---- typeface: Song typeface ---- language: English ---- input method: A4 ---- Promotes the version ---- to join the short note service the WMP player to 10.3.15097 edition ---- promotion communications manager to 1.2.0.0 edition ---- promotion photographs software to 4.00 (Build23355), Push the Mail switch ---- joins the automatic time zone/time function (to have to coordinate corresponding GSM) ---- ---- to initialize China the promotion color letter procedure to 3.1.2.12 edition to move CMWAP to turn on network establishment ---- IA File Manager resource management ---- WM5torage 1.7 to sinicize the version ---- CeleTask 2.2 task managements and to integrate the Long_Home pressed key ---- to join the A2DP blue tooth stereo sound, the revision high-frequency unit flaw, Removes noise ---- multi- Pu to reach the SIM card manager ---- contact person to tabulate the chart sign ---- condition fence time........... Deletion: ---- Pocket MSN ---- Java MIDlet the Manager ---- system brings the chromosphere game ---- to like in the frame pattern plate, the camera tacitly approves the picture, the sound and the video recording
I'm already using it.
The cons: has no t9, but a chinese input method.
Post your findings please!!!!
Download it here: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KB511Z85 or try here: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HA3DKV61
happy upgrading for you guys, have a nice weekend i'll be back on monday to see your comments!!!
What font is being used? is it the typical Chinese ac3 font or Segoe?
I'm afraid i don't understand your question beacause i don't know the fonts you are talking about. please explain!
Guys this really works,
Just installed it on my SP5 over an SP5m firmware. Its very quick to install too. it took 3 minutes to install.
I will advise if it worths.
any news on this?
This is the fastest rom I used on tornado without overclocking. Quicker boot, quicker logoff and menu control. It is very pretty looking like Iphone.
The only negative is that the default input language is chinese, so you have to press * a lot to write. Everything else is in english.
If you are a tech freak use it.
Cheers
I am confused about the language options. If you goto Settings you should be able to select Locale and change it to US and English right? If not then change the registry to delete every other language besides English. I have don that in the past and worked great. However, I am not willing to risk downloading this ROM if the language isn't right. Any other bugs with this ROM??
dwest218 said:
I am confused about the language options. If you goto Settings you should be able to select Locale and change it to US and English right? If not then change the registry to delete every other language besides English. I have don that in the past and worked great. However, I am not willing to risk downloading this ROM if the language isn't right. Any other bugs with this ROM??
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I agree. also, it would be very annoying to keep on pressing "*" everytime you want to input text
a tutorial on how to make custom roms would be very helpfull.
madds said:
I'm afraid i don't understand your question beacause i don't know the fonts you are talking about. please explain!
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Saw the link that you gave, it uses the usual chinese font, they are a lot thinner than the usual WM5 font which is called Segoe..
Not a big deal since we can change fonts easily thru Registry
thanks for the info by the way
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Saw the link that you gave, it uses the usual chinese font, they are a lot thinner than the usual WM5 font which is called Segoe..
Not a big deal since we can change fonts easily thru Registry
thanks for the info by the way
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were you able to try the rom? is it worth it?
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greatbal said:
were you able to try the rom? is it worth it?
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Haven't tried it pare, wala na ako Tornado Try mo pre
Would appreciate if someone could post the free storage space and RAM left right after loading the ROM..
Thanks
anybody going to strip this down?!
would be great to get an aku3.x rom update for the tornado!
this one looks great. wm6 would be better though.
Wow, decided to quickly throw this on right before I took off to work this morning.
The very first think I noticed was the fix for my Motorola ht820 A2DP headphones! No more will I have to deal with the high pitched distortion/noise!
I'm assuming this was either just a partial flash, or it was built upon an imate rom because I still have my imate splash screen at the beginning.
I'm at work now, and I really should be working, so I wont have a chance to install any programs or tweak with the homescreen at all . . .
The iphone stuff is well done, but I couldnt care less about having a minimal looking screen, I'll go back to my previous settings . .
Also, hopefully I can search around here enough to find out how to get my t9 back. . . . not the end of the world but would be nice.
Would also be nice to get the midlet manager back.
OS 5.1.195 (Build 14847.2.0.0)
Radio version 4.0.13.25_01.14.00
RIL 2.002
Available Storage 18.35
Total Storage 20.94
Available Memory 26.64
Total Memory 45.05
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Operator 5.1.195.14847
Sys info
ROM version 2.0.11.0
OPERATOR version 2.5.39.2
Will this work to change the T9 language problem.
http://surrealnetworks.com/mpx/t9_languages.htm
dwest218 said:
Will this work to change the T9 language problem.
http://surrealnetworks.com/mpx/t9_languages.htm
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Hi, i've already tried that solution but it doesn't work.
it's a diferent input software they used in this rom, it lacks suport for t9.
Can someone who knows how to speak chinese try to contact the maker of this rom (it's the guy in the link with screenshots i believe) and ask him for suport on how to make a xd-devs rom???
that would be fantastic.
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I am thinking of putting on WM6 onto my SPV M5000 and was wondering what were the advantages / disadvantages of WM6 over WM5 in everyday use. Is there a thread or comparison somewhere Ican check out
I've been running WM6 for many months now and this week reverted to WM5 - I've tried pretty much all the ROMs and WM5 simply is more stable, although not itself perfect.
The main advantage, to me, in WM6 is the Outlook client with HTML email support, although I can live without that. The terminal services / remote desktop client is better too. Other than those, the rest are just pretty fluff, but that's just *for my use*. Note: One man's fluff is another man's, erm, necessity :s
xiasma said:
I've been running WM6 for many months now and this week reverted to WM5 - I've tried pretty much all the ROMs and WM5 simply is more stable, although not itself perfect.
The main advantage, to me, in WM6 is the Outlook client with HTML email support, although I can live without that. The terminal services / remote desktop client is better too. Other than those, the rest are just pretty fluff, but that's just *for my use*. Note: One man's fluff is another man's, erm, necessity :s
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Not really mate!
If you've used wm6, you'd find -
1. Its just as stable as wm5 (the later roms!)
2. Lots of tiny improvements
- Better phone search and dialing
- Better keyboard support all over
- Quick search in outlook messages (cant live without this!)
- Better look and feel
- Html support
- Better IE
- Latest office version support
- Lots of minor addons, which make WM5 complete by covering the gaps!
If you ask me, its a no brainer to upgrade. I suggest give one of the latest builds a try and see for yourself. If you think there are problems, you could always revert back
Cheers,
San
I believe that the major drawback of WM6 is the lack of Video-Call functionality. It is being introduced now, but still is buggy.
Anyway, I don't use that, as the company that pays my phone bill does not allow me to.
On the other hand, WM6 does look much better and seems to be as stable and fast as WM5, if not better. So why keep a less good looking firmware?
Also, I believe that Internet Explorer makes use of the VGA screen in WM6, while WM5 did not.
Then there are all the small things that make the phone nicer.
Cheers,
vma
memory management of wm5 is superior...
For me its the most important aspect of wm6 that must be corrected...
Other than that, wm6 are better!!
vma said:
I believe that the major drawback of WM6 is the lack of Video-Call functionality. It is being introduced now, but still is buggy.
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This is not WM6 limitation. It is just a minor incompatibility of old WM5 DLLs with WM6 dialer. HTC could fix this in 5 minutes if they would bother. We cannot do that as we don't have the sources.
The best WM6 changes are
- improved memory manager over WM5. In WM6 virtual address space is less wasted than in WM5. Slot 1 DLL sections can be aligned on 4 Kb boundary (64 Kb on older OSes) and resource-only DLLs are mover to slot 127
- Exchange 2007 support (html email, "company directory", search over your mailbox, etc)
- improved dialer (that is why we just cannot copy video call DLLs from WM5)
- VGA in IE
- Office 2007 document support
- some other tiny improvements for OEMs, like new resolutions (up to 480x800), ability to control led blinking in ringtone scripts (WM5 only could control vibra), secondary displays API (in WM5 only smartphones could have secondary display)
- VoIP API support in OS
These all changes should not cause major increase in OS number. WM6 is just a "WM5 second edition" or WM 5.5.
WM 6.1 improvements over WM6
- Chat-like SMS that cannot be turned off (I personally hate it, prefer old style).
- Improved memory management in DLLs. Some of the DLLs can be loaded to shared memory region - so they would not waste vitrual address space in slot 1,0 (Athena already does the same, so MS just stolen HTC idea)
- Minor IE improvements
- Improved exchange 2007 support (this is really good)
- Some minor BT stack improvements (for example it automatically uses "0000" as a pin when pairing with BT headset)
- Media player is updated. I don't know what is changes as I don't use that trash.
- Ugly task manager. Hopefully it would be more useful in release.
The amount of changes is similar to changes between WM5 and WM6. MS marketing guys may call that "WM7" in the future.
from my experience
Advantages of WM6:
all stated above by others
Disadvantages:
More battery drain
More Memory drain
Internet Sharing is not that great
Best would to have WM5 rom with WM6 icons(look and feel)......best of both worlds.
It's faster, looks better, works better and supports more enhancement patches! I already have mine looking like an iphone and working at the speed of light! WM5 is just slower and not as sharp!
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More battery drain
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More Memory drain
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false. Memory is drained by apps you use. OS memory footprint is nearly the same as for WM5.
Internet Sharing is not that great
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true. But you can use WModem from WM5.
dreamtheater39 said:
Not really mate!
If you've used wm6, you'd find -
1. Its just as stable as wm5 (the later roms!)
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I've tried *many* of the later ROMs and, although they've come along hugely, they are not as stable in my experience. But still, maybe my emphasis and needs are different to yours/those of others, so YMMV.
2. Lots of tiny improvements
- Better phone search and dialing
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Yes, indeed, but that's what I'm calling "fluff". It's an improvement, but doesn't in all reality improve how I use the device in any way.
- Better keyboard support all over
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Can't say I noticed any difference. The keyboard, without exception, has always just worked exactly as expected for me in WM5 and WM6.
- Quick search in outlook messages (cant live without this!)
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You're the second person to mention this since I reverted to WM5. Please tell me more - I feel like I probably missed out on one of the crucial improvements! I tend to use OWA when I need more than the vastly inferior (but largely adequate) Outlook client in WM5 offers.
- Better look and feel
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Subjective, but I agree. However, not a sufficient improvement to justify the upgrade.
- Html support
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Indeed, and I miss that a lot.
- Better IE
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The latest TMobile ROM has the "Use high res" option and I can't say I can see any difference beyond that.
- Latest office version support
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Agreed, a major improvement for many users, just not for me.
- Lots of minor addons, which make WM5 complete by covering the gaps!
If you ask me, its a no brainer to upgrade. I suggest give one of the latest builds a try and see for yourself. If you think there are problems, you could always revert back
Cheers,
San
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Totally agree about trying it out. For me, it's borderline too unreliable and the downsides of WM5 don't *much* matter. As I said earlier, everyone will have slightly different needs, so weigh them up and take the plunge.
Thanks San, some very good points.
zeeshansohail said:
It's faster, looks better, works better and supports more enhancement patches! I already have mine looking like an iphone and working at the speed of light! WM5 is just slower and not as sharp!
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Off topic :
Where do u get the iphone skin from? I install the ilaunch but found that its not compatible with the universal VGA screen, the screen is all mess up
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Its just me , but personally, i think WM 6 eats more memory than WM 5, its more laggier at times, and the home-cooked rom arent as stable than the official ones, sometimes need soft reset the phone
xiasma said:
I've tried *many* of the later ROMs and, although they've come along hugely, they are not as stable in my experience. But still, maybe my emphasis and needs are different to yours/those of others, so YMMV.
Yes, indeed, but that's what I'm calling "fluff". It's an improvement, but doesn't in all reality improve how I use the device in any way.
Can't say I noticed any difference. The keyboard, without exception, has always just worked exactly as expected for me in WM5 and WM6.
You're the second person to mention this since I reverted to WM5. Please tell me more - I feel like I probably missed out on one of the crucial improvements! I tend to use OWA when I need more than the vastly inferior (but largely adequate) Outlook client in WM5 offers.
Subjective, but I agree. However, not a sufficient improvement to justify the upgrade.
Indeed, and I miss that a lot.
The latest TMobile ROM has the "Use high res" option and I can't say I can see any difference beyond that.
Agreed, a major improvement for many users, just not for me.
Totally agree about trying it out. For me, it's borderline too unreliable and the downsides of WM5 don't *much* matter. As I said earlier, everyone will have slightly different needs, so weigh them up and take the plunge.
Thanks San, some very good points.
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Hi!
I think you're missing out the keyboard improvements & search feature-adds in wm6. This is extremely useful if you use your uni in standard flip-closed landscape mode and happen to use the keyboard often.
For example do this -
- Open messaging, and HOLD DOWN the "H" key until you get a help popup. This shows all the keyboard shortcuts for the messaging app. To activate a shortcut, just press and hold the corresponding key.
- To search for a message, all you need to do is, start typing a part of the subject/sender name and it instantaneously matches all messages matching the criteria. Its extremely useful i'm sure! For instance, if you're trying to find a message sent by someone, just start typing his name to see all messages sent by him! Or type a part of the subject! If searching in SMS'es, the name or part of the sms message itself can be searched!
- You can start typing a name out directly from your today screen, this launches the phone app and searches the name! Very quick and useful!
These 3 features alone are good enough which prevents me from rolling back to wm5! Besides, its also stable that i never need to restart my pda in days! I had a lot of trouble trying to get it stable, but the radio stack 1.15 did the trick for me! I suggest you experiment and find the version that works good with your device/operator/location!
San
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Where do u get the iphone skin from? I install the ilaunch but found that its not compatible with the universal VGA screen, the screen is all mess up
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Its just me , but personally, i think WM 6 eats more memory than WM 5, its more laggier at times, and the home-cooked rom arent as stable than the official ones, sometimes need soft reset the phone
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It's actually alot of different mod's and patches! There is a Slider application with a VGA Patch and a Configuration App to have the iphone slider unlock. There is an iContact application that lets you scroll through your contacts using your finger (very nice feature to have and show off ). There is the PocketCM Keyboard with a black skin and a VGA patch (much cooler and more usable than the iphone keyboard). There's also the HTC Default black theme to give the whole PPC an iphone look and feel! If you're even more of an iphone GUI fan, you can take it a step ahead an install new icons and tweak some of the other UI elements to have fun!
You can find all of the above mentioned stuff at www.freewareppc.com.
Good luck with it
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mamaich said:
false. Memory is drained by apps you use. OS memory footprint is nearly the same as for WM5.
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memory footprint nearly same on reboot, after a period the memory gets sucked somewhere even if you aren't using any apps. Now that somewhere is the question area.
zeeshansohail said:
It's actually alot of different mod's and patches! There is a Slider application with a VGA Patch and a Configuration App to have the iphone slider unlock. There is an iContact application that lets you scroll through your contacts using your finger (very nice feature to have and show off ). There is the PocketCM Keyboard with a black skin and a VGA patch (much cooler and more usable than the iphone keyboard). There's also the HTC Default black theme to give the whole PPC an iphone look and feel! If you're even more of an iphone GUI fan, you can take it a step ahead an install new icons and tweak some of the other UI elements to have fun!
You can find all of the above mentioned stuff at www.freewareppc.com.
Good luck with it
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Hmm, mind pm me the application list? I dunno where to start
Thanks for the effort!
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Hmm, mind pm me the application list? I dunno where to start
Thanks for the effort!
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1) Do a search on this forum for "Htc Default.tsk" to get the black theme for PPC. Put that in your "Windows" directory to see it in the "Today" settings panel
2) Download PocketCM keyboard (+Theme & VGA Patch) and install that
3) Download iContact and install that
4) Download Slider (+VGA Patch) and install that
5) Apply icons!
Lemme know if you find something else!
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1) Do a search on this forum for "Htc Default.tsk" to get the black theme for PPC. Put that in your "Windows" directory to see it in the "Today" settings panel
2) Download PocketCM keyboard (+Theme & VGA Patch) and install that
3) Download iContact and install that
4) Download Slider (+VGA Patch) and install that
5) Apply icons!
Lemme know if you find something else!
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Funny, the iContact doesnt works on my uni, it just shows a black screen
For slider, i use S2U2 ( Slide 2 Unlock 2 ) the slider + VGA patch that u mentioned doesnt looks correct in landscape
The whole afternoon i was playing with the Touch Commander application ( emulates Touch FLO )
Where to find a working iphone launcher application for Universal?
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Funny, the iContact doesnt works on my uni, it just shows a black screen
For slider, i use S2U2 ( Slide 2 Unlock 2 ) the slider + VGA patch that u mentioned doesnt looks correct in landscape
The whole afternoon i was playing with the Touch Commander application ( emulates Touch FLO )
Where to find a working iphone launcher application for Universal?
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I'm using Mo3ulla's OS 5.2.1933 Build 18533.0.7.0 ROM 2.11.09 G4M RADIO 1.18.00 ... pretty much the best i could find, iContact works fine on it!
Slider and S2U2 are separate apps and both mess up in landscape I don't use landscape so that didnt ever bother me, sorry
I haven't heard of the Touch Commander, i'll see into that ... seems interesting!
And i'm still looking for an iphone launcher cant find one yet!
and create a new thread if there's more to say regarding iphone skinning I don't want people getting bothered on this thread!
what vga iphone theme are you using ? where is it found? .... even if just a frontend....
Attention, this ROM version is now deprecated, see this thread for Q-Mobile 1.2!
Well, it was bound to happen...I love all the custom ROMs out there but none of them quite suited my needs. I'm a business traveler and as such I tend to need lots of screen real estate, and a fast device, with the best software preloaded and optimizations up the wazoo.
Introducing Q-Mobile...it's all of that and more. You can see best what applications are loaded from the screen shots below. Suffice it to say, they don't even begin to do justice to the fine grained care that has been taken to configure each application for optimum use ability. I have been working on this ROM for almost a week now--my method is far deeper than simply throwing packages and RGU files together and hoping for the best. There are literally HUNDREDS of registry tweaks and care was taken with every application added--no file was left unscrutinized or tested.
Some Highlights (this is an extremely compact feature list of what I added/removed/changed):
.Net CF 3.5
SqlCe 3.5
FULL Video Access (Main YouTube as well as m.youtube)
Custom KaiserTweak for this ROM.
Arcsoft MMS 4.2.8.1
Esmertec Java 2007.08.02
Microsoft Office 2007
Microsoft One Note Mobile
HTC Equalizer 1.0.2
HTC Random Access
TCPMP 0.81
It is worth noting that this ROM is intended for the HTC TYTN II style devices (e.g. Radio 14.09 will not work).
WWE (English) ROM : MegaUpload |RapidShare
I'd like to thank everyone on all forums but especially xda-developers. Without people like you none of this would be possible. In addition it is probably obvious that I pilfered what I considered the cream of the crop applications, ideas, graphics, etc. No doubt many reading this will realize their work in here somewhere.
P.S. You may notice a seeming lack of applications--that is because I personally heavily use Spb and Resco products to complete my device. Feel free to download individual cabs to fill in any freeware you feel should be integrated.
Enjoy,
-Q
HTC Equalizer 1.0.2
You got this working???
World Card Mobile
Do you have a cab file of this? I got a other ROM and this was tooken out of it.
What is: Field test, Restore black bars & SQL Query Analyzer?
Does it include Touch Flo?
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Benchmark results:
xmoo said:
HTC Equalizer 1.0.2
You got this working???
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Yes it works for me.
World Card Mobile
Do you have a cab file of this? I got a other ROM and this was tooken out of it.
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No, I left this as part of the ROM image...check dutty's page though, he should have a link for it: http://www.cinetsystems.com/xda/index.php?path=Kaiser+Cab+Collections/
What is: Field test, Restore black bars & SQL Query Analyzer?
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Field test is an application that exists on every device (unless it has been cooked out) and is extremely useful for troubleshooting network problems. Obviously you can remove the link for it if you don't like it--the exe is only 33KB so its not exactly a hog.
Restore Black Bars is a tiny app courtesy of jasjamming that restores black bars if you change your theme then decide to go back to the default.
SQL Query analyzer is an app that's included with the new SQL CE 3.5...I'm not really sure how useful it would be but again, its tiny so if you don't like it just remove the \Windows\Start Menu\System\SQL Query Analyzer.lnk file.
Does it include Touch Flo?
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I originally wrote "nope, too sluggish for me". This is a misstatement given that TouchFLO is indeed included (as evidenced by the screen shots. TouchFLO is the application that allows finger scrolling in many apps (ala iPhone). What I was referring to was FTouchFLO/Touch Cube (the app that allows gestures to bring up special screens (other facets of the 3D view, etc). That is not included.
Keep in mind that you can tweak or turn off TouchFLO through the KaiserTweak app under Programs\System. I myself turn it off because Spb Pocket Plus offers better support and functionality in this regard.
Quentin- said:
Yes it works for me.
No, I left this as part of the ROM image...check dutty's page though, he should have a link for it: http://www.cinetsystems.com/xda/index.php?path=Kaiser+Cab+Collections/
Field test is an application that exists on every device (unless it has been cooked out) and is extremely useful for troubleshooting network problems. Obviously you can remove the link for it if you don't like it--the exe is only 33KB so its not exactly a hog.
Restore Black Bars is a tiny app courtesy of jasjamming that restores black bars if you change your theme then decide to go back to the default.
SQL Query analyzer is an app that's included with the new SQL CE 3.5...I'm not really sure how useful it would be but again, its tiny so if you don't like it just remove the \Windows\Start Menu\System\SQL Query Analyzer.lnk file.
Nope, too sluggish for me.
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Thxx for the explaining.
How did you get the Equalizer to work?
Too bad it does not have Touch Flo. Or else I would install this rom.
which radio?
It's late, getting sleepy......I'd like to experiment tomorrow.
What radio would you suggest using for an ATT Tilt phone?
How's the battery performance?
Any possibility of summarizing more details of the work that you've put into this ROM?
Thanks.
Downloading now!
The benchmark result looks great! I also think TouchFlo is too sluggish, it is only for people who want to have a nice look but not the speed or stability.
Thanks for sharing us!
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It's late, getting sleepy......I'd like to experiment tomorrow.
What radio would you suggest using for an ATT Tilt phone?
Thanks.
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It does not matter when you have a TITL or TyTN II. At the moment you are using Dutty's Hybrid NO.7 NUSkool RTM with Radio 1.27.12.17. So you can flash this Q-Mobile rom.
But you should know that when you flash any roms what is built from AT&T rom, you need to flash radio 1.27.14.09!!!
This thing have Connection Setup/Network Wizard? Thoughts on reliability and speed versus Dutty, anyone?
Whats the Wireless modem thingy in the connections menu ?
congrats
It looks Great, Nice to see your cooking mate, well done
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Whats the Wireless modem thingy in the connections menu ?
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You can turn your device in a Wireless router.
There's no connection/network wizard, which is a bit of a shame. It's not a show stopper for me (always keep a T-Mobile cab handy on my storage card), but it could limit the adoption for this ROM.
I've just flashed and configured Activesync, here's my thoughts so far:
Appearance: Nice. It's got the cool black look, and it's even got a nice new image for WinMobile's equivalent to the hour glass - the spinning pie chart - which is more in keeping with the black feel. There's a single theme installed (good), and the splash screen is quite nice too.
Speed: Pretty good. I'd put it slightly ahead of Dutty, but perhaps slightly slower than Custel with Mobile Crack. Screen rotate is a little slow, but app switching is speedy (instantly back into messaging, or contacts).
Apps and config: There's no keyboard sliding sound icon, which might be a problem for some. I always turn it off anyway, and that's the default here. There aren't really many surprises in terms of app choices.
All in all I'm very impressed with it. I'm going to give it a few days to see if it does anything to upset me
hmm,going to def give this a try for a bit..
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Any possibility of summarizing more details of the work that you've put into this ROM?
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Sure, I was tired last night and didn't really feel like elaborating. Here goes...
All help files updated/removed to reflect current ROM state.
Default directory layout and file locations updated to be more intuitive.
Programs organized into folders reflecting their purpose.
Removed tons of unused files and settings.
Default button for Comm Manager is now single click on the record button (I miss that they removed the button the Hermes had for this).
Voice Speed Dial removed.
Default network settings removed (this never worked for me since I have an internet plan with T-Mobile and it always tried to set up the wrong one).
.Net CF 3.5 and SqlCe 3.5 are custom to my ROM (I had heard there were problems with the packages built by others so I built my own from scratch).
A *LOT* of work was done ensuring maximum media compatibility...as mentioned before streaming (mms, rtsp) protocols work, but the full version of pages like Google videos, YouTube, etc also should work.
As mentioned already there is no TouchFlo Cube, HTC Home, etc.
SQM (MS spyware) has been removed.
ClearStorage was removed (this can be accomplished via the soft buttons+reset anyway).
Sliding keyboard sounds removed (this was annoying anyway).
Lots of useless default images and templates removed.
Games removed (there are cabs for them anyway, and I personally never used them).
Windows Media player has a skin in theme with the rest of the device.
The default calculator has been removed (there are much better ones available out there--check out HP48 emu or 1-Calc).
IA Zip removed (there is the Office Mobile zip viewer, or better zip apps out there...Spb, Resco, etc).
Windows Live removed.
HTC Audio plugin added for use with WMP (works when device turned off as well).
All ringtones except one removed (feel free to set your own--this is how it should be anyway).
BT FTP removed (this is the Bluetooth FTP server/explorer which imho is quite useless).
Again I'll mention TONS of registry tweaks to make the default behavior of the device more intuitive.
Page file size set to 12MB by default.
While I'm sure this list is by no means complete it will hopefully give you a better idea of what's in/not in it. Cheers,
Great job on the rom. Work perfect for me even after i loaded all my apps.
Tilt User
So how is the stability and speed of this? GPS / Internet sharing works fine? Thats what I use most of.
hello, Could you please tell me how to add or post a PTT rom I tried all the hacks i could find to make it work and it will not thanks. wc3sam
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So how is the stability and speed of this? GPS / Internet sharing works fine? Thats what I use most of.
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Two very important things for me as well, from my perspective it meets both of these criteria. FYI I forgot to mention there's an app called Visual GPS available under Programs\System that is preconfigured to work on the Kaiser...if you haven't heard of/used it before it will help acquire sats faster.
What you do is:
1) Make sure QuickGPS has current data (by default I've configured it to automatically get this so it should).
2) Run Visual GPS to acquire satellite lock.
3) Launch Google Maps or TomTom.
The reasoning is that Visual GPS can acquire a satellite lock faster than either of these applications, but even a cold acquisition (no QuickGPS/VisualGPS) is sub 30 seconds for me so maybe it doesn't matter.
Cheers
Congratulations, mate... great work here
Updated:
Finally had time, and access to norwegian files for a new build. Seems a bit faster and more responsive.
New in this version:
- Removed some unused/unnecessary stuff from OEM
- Camera application updated to version 5.04
- Removed taskmanager from the taskbar and replaced it with a norwegian version
- Removed some more stuff from SYS (Uneeded/unwanted)
Bugs:
- The license agreement of MSN is still blank, press "godta"
- The default start page of Interet Explorer does NOT work.
Uploaded to 4shared:
build 28002: here
previous build 23071: here
Make sure you have read this before upgrading
Important:
This ROM does not contain a radio, the radio of your previously flashed ROM will be used
Please let me know if you find any other bugs or problems! This will definitely help me improve my work! (any positive feedback is wanted as well)
Skabbi said:
Thanks to this fantastic forum I've managed to cook my own norwegian 6.5 ROM based on build 23071. So far it seems to be working very well.
Since I'm not sure about the demand for norwegian ROMs I havn't uploaded it anywhere yet. If youre interested in trying it please post here telling me so.
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Hi there.
I like to try your ROM.
Espen
I'll try to find a nice place to upload it as soon as I can, will probably PM with where you can find it.
Things I've done with this ROM is by the way:
Removed:
Transcriber (doesn't recognize norwegian letters anyway)
Autoupdate
IRDA (No infrared on kaiser so this is useless)
Livesearch
MS Money
MS Tag
MS My Phone
Added:
Working version of Windows Live (Since I do use msn occasionally)
Taskmanager
+Some other minor tweaks
Basically a quite clean Rom based on a mix of the OEM of my stock 6.1 kaiser and 6.5 build 23071 SYS.
Very nice and it makes me curious
Hi
Very nice initiative. I have tried most the roms around here, and have had some difficulties with 6.5 roms and have currently gone back to a 6.1 rom, but this makes me interested to try a 6.5 rom again
best regards Rune T. Norway
Added info:
Flashed the rom, and tried it for a little more than a day, but I found it it a little unresponsive for my taste.
I always look for the fastest I can find with the best batterylife, but things is of course a matter of taste, and one seems to get picky after trying all these magnificent roms ;D
I currently use 23053-uncompressed (with only 58Mb free storage at startup), and this is fast and stable.
If you wanted to try and cook a norwegian rom based on this one, it might be a winner for my taste.
RT
I've just installed your ROM and it's working good so far.
Espen
have u got any pictures ? and I hope u can post a english vision as well ;
thanks very much !
Improving
First of all thanks for the response!
Also I will not be cooking an english version of this as there are quite a lot of them out there already (probably a lot better than I could do them too)
Have been working a bit to improve this version built on 23071 for a while, and have made a couple of test builds for myself removing unneeded apps, the duplicate alarm clock shortcut and so on, but have turned to build 23081 simply because I like the magnifier in it. Will probably post it as soon as its ready.
BTW. I've been working on a couple of uncompressed versions as well, most people use the SD-cards for storage anyway.
Might take me a couple of days, maybe weeks as I'm currently playing around with my diamonds and trinitys too...
Great - keep up the good work.
Still no issues with the current version.
Espen
Me WANT
Hi, there i would realy like to try this on, I'm sick of reading eanglish on my kaiser
-Thx
Sorry, i can see clearly now, so i found the download link
Just to let you know
Lately I've been working on the 23081 build, uncompressed. It's fast and responsive, but there's some minor bugs with Internet explorer that I'm trying to fix. I'm looking for the norwegian languge files for 23088 though so if anyone could get me those I'd be very happy....
Remove IE, it sucks anyhow. It's slow and useless.
Add Opera and set it as default browser
Opera 9.7 Beta
The beta works great.
Grimms said:
Remove IE, it sucks anyhow. It's slow and useless.
Add Opera and set it as default browser
Opera 9.7 Beta
The beta works great.
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Have been playing with the idea, might try it when I get time, not sure yet how difficult it is to set it as the default browser when I cook it and integrate it into titanium. Will defenitely look into it.
Sounds great
Looking forward to your next build
Finally..
..a new build.
Check out the first post for links.
I have not added opera, you are free to do so yourself
Nice.. I'll check it out over the weekend..
Thanks
Thanks for testing! Please leave me a message telling whats good/bad and so on.
At the moment I'm in the process of cooking a ROM with touchflo 2.0 from the HTC Mega (touch2), seems like there's just a few bugs that I need to get rid of, when (or if?) I get it done I'll upload it if anyone wants it. (Not a huge fan of touchflo on kaiser myself since it doesn't work properly in portrait though)
Not working at the moment:
YouTube (Freezes)
Opera (works, but it's in english)
Dialer (fixed, went back to the built in dialer from WM 6.5)
Comm Manager (fixed, used the original from my HTC Kaiser)
Hi, I have not had the time too test your rom untill now. I'm falshing as we speak I will report back after testing for a few hours..