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What's so great about WM6?

Hi,
While I am waiting for my MDA Pro to arrive, I have been reading a lot in the Universal section (have a BA myself).
May I ask for some valid reasons why someone would want to use homebrewed WM6 releases instead of official/customized WM5?
I do understand the fun it is to try out new things, but is it really worth it? I did not find many posts that would clear this question.
Thanks,
vma

WM6.0...
The new look and a lot faster device...

Is there any feature that won't be available with WM6, that did work fine in WM5?
Thanks,
vma

Video call isn't working yet.

Rolud said:
The new look and a lot faster device...
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The way I see it, WM6 may or may not work for you and may or may not do it for you. Try it. You can always go back to WM5. Most people don't.....

Well .... the simple answer is that I did a lot of searching and reading, and finally tried it out for myself.
I asked this very question a while ago right here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1130569&postcount=88
And came to the follwowing conclusion:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1155497&postcount=89
In the conclusion, the thing about the Bluetooth Stack / Voice Command - it was actually Voice Command that was the problem and this issue was fixed in Jrwightmcps' 2.02.00 WWE http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=297256

Crossbow ONLY!
Tell you the truth... i see the new WM6 is better eye-catching GUI not to mention the enhancement in the functionality and other usability such as email related functions. I know that MS wont just upgrade for no obvious reason nor for desktop OS compatibility.
Yet i reckon i wont -never- go back to magento! Crossbow ONLY!

@nvatvani:
Indeed your posts where the only ones I read, that contained some usefull info about the subject.
No offense to all the other members of course!
I was simply wondering about what to do when my MDA Pro arrives: replace the German firmware with a WWE WM5 one or go straight ahead to WM6 without even looking at WM5.
Also, I had some problems with my Blue Angel, when I tried WM5 on it: it may have been a coincidence, but one day after the upgrade the screen went mad and totally messed up. Only 1 Hardreset in about 100 tries would bring it back to normal for some period of time and even reflashing it with WM5 or 2003SE would not make it work normal again. The screen would get messed up suddenly for no particular reason. At the end I had to send it in for repair, which was actually a good thing, as I complained about the loose stylo and bad working hardkeys, all within warranty. I got a new key-pcb, backside and they reflashed the device with 2003SE. I posted this issue in the BA forum, but got no usefull hint. This means I am a little scared of upgrading to unofficial releases.
Other than that, I have no problems with flashing, as I do that on my other hobby (satellite receivers) frequently, including JTAG-operations for repairing bricked devices. The same applies to games consoles. (Note: I do not sell or benefit commercially from that activity and my goal is not to get illegal software or TV - not that you guy's get the wrong idea about me).
Anyway, thanks for your replies!
Cheers,
vma

What Windows Mobile 5.0 AKU 2.0 has and Windows Mobile 6 (the cooked ones, having tried them all) doesn't have, according to my experiences:
1. Videocalling - at least not a proper one
2. Bluetooth Dial Up Networking (the DUN profile)
3. Wireless Modem (yet some WM6 ROM's have it, although without shortcut in the start menu)
4. Cyberon Voice Dial by default (some WM6 ROM's have it by default, others will need a 500kB CAB to activate it)
The reason why I went back to "good old" WM5 is mainly the reliability. Ok, the OS may be a bit slower here and there, but it has all the functionality (e.g. videocalls and Bluetooth DUN), and NEVER hangs. It just always works and that's what I desperately need right now.
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The things Windows Mobile 6 has for me that 5.0 hasn't which I miss the most:
1. High resolution browsing in the normal Internet Explorer (I don't want to use alternatives)
2. HTML email support
3. The impressive speed of the OS
Applications like WM6's Windows Live and the superb Remote Desktop Client are also available for WM5, so I don't need to miss those, otherwise I sure would, and then I might have sticked with WM6.
The new sounds and GUI are great, but I don't really miss them, since that's not a true functional thing.
Having WM5 up and running again, without freezes and memory leaking and with full HTC Universal functionality, is enough for me to be happy with it and to stick with it. If there ever will be a ROM that actually ADDS Windows Mobile 6 on top of all of this (without a single registry tweak or CAB fix needed), then it's the time for me to upgrade again.
If such a ROM will ever see the daylight, since it won't be officially available for the Universal, I don't know. I think the HTC X7500 (Athena) will be there sooner (April 2007 over here), and that one will have a official WM6 upgrade for sure. That'll be my next one, so until then: WM5 for my Universal!
So far for my opinion.

why do I use WM6
vma said:
Hi,
While I am waiting for my MDA Pro to arrive, I have been reading a lot in the Universal section (have a BA myself).
May I ask for some valid reasons why someone would want to use homebrewed WM6 releases instead of official/customized WM5?
I do understand the fun it is to try out new things, but is it really worth it? I did not find many posts that would clear this question.
Thanks,
vma
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To be honest, I used them all and later delteted them after 5 2 hours. They leak a lot, ram is at minimum and useless third party applications, and a lot fo thing sodn't really work or missing (I just want a vanill aone without 3rd party applications).
Except for one rom, Darkforce, it is fast and furious, and so far I have using it for two days; battery usage is good, and no leaks. However, no video calling, and no way to set com ports for bluetooth devices. any1 has this problem?
However, common to all ROMS, no video calling, old calculator, speed dial messed up (some work and some don't), wireless connection bubble missing (yes you can install a cab but I don't want to do that).
<Mind you, contrary to other reports, I never had any freezes with any rom.
The thing that attracts me is HTML in email, High resolution mode in explorer, better remote desktop connectivity.
So I thhink I am sticking with DarkForce ROM, so far so good.
Thx

Why use WM6 over WM5?

I've tried quite a few of the WM6 ROMS (The only ones I haven't tried was Ivan's and Darkforce's). But I always see myself going back to WM5 (mostly because I miss video calling). Is it just me? or is there something about WM6 that I'm not seeing? This question is much like Windows XP vs Windows Vista... I just couldn't see any reason to use Vista.
Anyone kind enough to site the major differences or advantages between the two? (except for aesthetics, of course)
I know I could just google for comparison charts or something.. but I prefer various "user opinions" So please don't point me here: WM5 vs WM6 chart... besides, it's not very accurate since most cooked WM5 ROMS does have a few added features.

DaVince said:
I've tried quite a few of the WM6 ROMS (The only ones I haven't tried was Ivan's and Darkforce's). But I always see myself going back to WM5 (mostly because I miss video calling). Is it just me? or is there something about WM6 that I'm not seeing? This question is much like Windows XP vs Windows Vista... I just couldn't see any reason to use Vista.
Anyone kind enough to site the major differences or advantages between the two? (except for aesthetics, of course)
I know I could just google for comparison charts or something.. but I prefer various "user opinions" So please don't point me here: WM5 vs WM6 chart... besides, it's not very accurate since most cooked WM5 ROMS does have a few added features.
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I agree with you to some extent.
In my opinion wm5 is much stable and made for the universal device that we all have.
Wm6 is not compatible and a beta app. Video call is part of the hardware and with wm6 , in-directly we have terminated that, in other words the world moves towards 3G/umts and we have made our devices fall back to 2G with wm6 crossbow which doesnot have video call.
Also its like driving hard to make wm6 perfect , which will never happen.
Its just like using a car and trying to put in a engine that is not compatible.
So I think uni devices is directly proportional to wm5. Period!

The reason I use WM6 over WM5 is this:
I love tweaking and messing around with my Universal
I'm not afraid of "bricking" it or having to reflash\loose data
I am hoping (sometimes I think, its a false hope...) that a WM6 ROM will be superior to my old WM5 one
Why the hell not?
Like I've said before - this is a forum for developers\hackers\tweakers, if you want a perfect ROM - look to your manufacturer. If you want to have some fun with your Universal (and void its warranty) then look no further!

TehPenguin said:
The reason I use WM6 over WM5 is this:
I love tweaking and messing around with my Universal
I'm not afraid of "bricking" it or having to reflash\loose data
I am hoping (sometimes I think, its a false hope...) that a WM6 ROM will be superior to my old WM5 one
Why the hell not?
Like I've said before - this is a forum for developers\hackers\tweakers, if you want a perfect ROM - look to your manufacturer. If you want to have some fun with your Universal (and void its warranty) then look no further!
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What he said

ditto ditto

DaVince said:
I've tried quite a few of the WM6 ROMS (The only ones I haven't tried was Ivan's and Darkforce's). But I always see myself going back to WM5 (mostly because I miss video calling). Is it just me? or is there something about WM6 that I'm not seeing? This question is much like Windows XP vs Windows Vista... I just couldn't see any reason to use Vista.
Anyone kind enough to site the major differences or advantages between the two? (except for aesthetics, of course)
I know I could just google for comparison charts or something.. but I prefer various "user opinions" So please don't point me here: WM5 vs WM6 chart... besides, it's not very accurate since most cooked WM5 ROMS does have a few added features.
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There are a couple of apps that I find very useful, the new RDP client is much better & I use that a lot, Internet Sharing is a great tool for connecting to the Internet from my laptop on the move. The upgrade to the Office apps to support Office 2007 documents will help people who move to Off2007, but even though I use it I still save my files in Off2003 format so that the rest of the world can read them.
Apart from that I am sticking with WM5 for now because I need something that works more reliably.

I have reverted back to WM5 just after using the WM6 on universal for ~1h everytime. Reason: Its slow as compared to WM5(yeah, ironic ) and few unfixed bugs
But, what I love about WM6..
1)progress bar in Office apps. I love it when it shows the progress while opeing my big word document containing plethora of pics.
2)no 'unidentified driver' problem: many of us were getting this problem under wm5. I didn't experience it under wm6 under that 1h span though (my solution to that problem in WM5: as long as you use wisbar advance2, you will NEVER experience that problem)
3)glossy looks (though I still prefer wisbar advance)(see the screenshot attatched)
4)better phone integration
On the other hand, I m using WM6 on my wizard and its perfect
[img=http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/370/kamalxa8.th.png]

Well, I don't want to switch back to WM5. Mainly for those reasons:
1/ I don't use video Calling because NO ONE from my about 700 contacts has video calling capabilites (that's Germany ;-)
2/ The new RDP-Client is REALLY great and I use it often to connect to my Server
3/ The Messaging features like "instant search" is for me one of the most important, as I use the universal to write about 20 eMails per Day and take notes when i'm at my customers.
4/ (I know you don't want to read it ;-) The nicer looking
5/ My Universal is much faster with WM6 (not with all releases though) as with the original WM5 ROMs.
6/ The Original T-Mobile WM5 ROM is UGLY AS HELL ;-)
7/ I forgot: The Call-List in the corresponding Contact is another great Feature
If I can think of anything more, I'll tell you

I find WM6 faster and - unlike some posters - much MUCH more stable.

TehPenguin said:
I love tweaking and messing around with my Universal
I'm not afraid of "bricking" it or having to reflash\loose data
I am hoping (sometimes I think, its a false hope...) that a WM6 ROM will be superior to my old WM5 one
Why the hell not?
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I too have been used such reasoning. Unfortunately after a while I came to the realisation that it was a false hope and went back to WM5.
That said, one reason to use WM6 is that the contacts app can query the DirectPush active directory to get Exchange contact details.

nispen said:
I find WM6 faster and - unlike some posters - much MUCH more stable.
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same here. german wm5 is unusable, slow as hell and buggy.

Hi,
I'm using WM6 (LVSW's ROM 2007-05-19) at the moment, mainly because I bought an Imate JasJam (Australian Telstra network) but use it on our "3" network and I didn't want to install the 3 Dopod ROM.
I did remove the Telstra customisations, but then lost Video call.
With LVSW's ROM, I now have video call back - Why do you say you don't have video calls in WM6????
I like to play with devices too!
Benifits so far (48 hours use) no freezes, a little faster, nicer looking & navigation plus there's a few new options but I'm not sure if they are useful to me.
Bad points - less memory storage & everyone at work is asking me about WM6!
Cheers! Oggy.
p.s. look further at video calls - it works for me!

Ogier said:
Hi,
I did remove the Telstra customisations, but then lost Video call.
With LVSW's ROM, I now have video call back - Why do you say you don't have video calls in WM6????
Cheers! Oggy.
p.s. look further at video calls - it works for me!
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REALLY??? Can you please give us more details as how you manage that? Links are good too.

WM5? Which AKU you are you talking about?
Here, the official WM5 release is AKU2, which is so slow that you can zZzZz.
For Cooked ROM, WM5 is up to AKU3.5 which is the one I am using, is with Video Call and fast.
WM6 still does not have video call, but there is a beta VideoCall cab which you can try, some works, some doesn't.
WM6 speed compare to WM5 AKU3.5, speed difference is marginal, but both are definitely faster than WM5 AKU1 & WM AKU2. But for WM6 to be slower than WM5, hmmm, how could this possible.

german t-mobile wm5 rom is quite unstable and unreliable. Some programs doesn't work at all on t-mobile wm5 roms (like cLaunch - ok, I know stupid example because cLaunch doesn't support vga resolutions at all... but it was the first application that came to my mind )
I'm satisfied with the functionality of wm6 roms. there is just one thing I don't like about it - how can I change the keyboard layout of an english rom? I would like to have an english rom but with the layout of a german keyboard - any ideas how to do that?

Ogier said:
Hi,
I'm using WM6 (LVSW's ROM 2007-05-19) at the moment, mainly because I bought an Imate JasJam (Australian Telstra network) but use it on our "3" network and I didn't want to install the 3 Dopod ROM.
I did remove the Telstra customisations, but then lost Video call.
With LVSW's ROM, I now have video call back - Why do you say you don't have video calls in WM6????
I like to play with devices too!
Benifits so far (48 hours use) no freezes, a little faster, nicer looking & navigation plus there's a few new options but I'm not sure if they are useful to me.
Bad points - less memory storage & everyone at work is asking me about WM6!
Cheers! Oggy.
p.s. look further at video calls - it works for me!
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One problem with that - we have the I-Mate JasJar not the JasJam
Not meaning to flame, but as clarification:
I-Mate JasJam - - - - - I-Mate JasJar
Dopod 838Pro - - - - - Dopod 900
O2 Xda Trion - - - - - - O2 Exec
HTC Hermes - - - - - - HTC Universal
So, your WM6 ROM is different to ours
(How do I know the above? Well, I work for 3 in Australia.... )

hello,
I'm using Wm6 beta rom for testing exchange 2007 improvement with this os and there a lot of new features !!
like html mail format, Simplified Administration, Increased Monitoring and Flexible Policy Management ...

aniel1 said:
Video call is part of the hardware and with wm6 , in-directly we have terminated that, in other words the world moves towards 3G/umts and we have made our devices fall back to 2G with wm6 crossbow which doesnot have video call.
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If only there's video call on WM6.. i would stick to it... video calling is quite popular here.. my girlfriend has a 3G fone... so video calling is very important for me.
TehPenguin said:
The reason I use WM6 over WM5 is this:
I love tweaking and messing around with my Universal
I'm not afraid of "bricking" it or having to reflash\loose data
I am hoping (sometimes I think, its a false hope...) that a WM6 ROM will be superior to my old WM5 one
Why the hell not?
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Hehe! Me too..
cottinghamm said:
Internet Sharing is a great tool for connecting to the Internet from my laptop on the move.
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This is also available for the WM5 (AKU3.3 and later) right?
NiTeSHiFT said:
2/ The new RDP-Client is REALLY great and I use it often to connect to my Server
3/ The Messaging features like "instant search" is for me one of the most important, as I use the universal to write about 20 eMails per Day and take notes when i'm at my customers.
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2. Terminal Services can also do this right? though i don't really use it so I wouldn't know if it's better.
3. Oh yeah.. love that too.. way easier than scrolling through messages...
nispen said:
I find WM6 faster and - unlike some posters - much MUCH more stable.
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Maybe you were using an old WM5. You must try WM5 AKU3.5 or WM5 AKU3.5.
Ogier said:
I'm using WM6 (LVSW's ROM 2007-05-19) at the moment, mainly because I bought an Imate JasJam (Australian Telstra network)
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We have Universals my friend, we are on the Universal thread. You have a Hermes...
CWKJ said:
WM5? Which AKU you are you talking about?
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AKU3.3 and 3.5. The older ones are way too slow and crappy.
fla242 said:
like html mail format, Simplified Administration, Increased Monitoring and Flexible Policy Management ...
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Ah yes.. html mail format... very nice too. uhmm.. would you care to elaborate about Simplified Administration, Increased Monitoring and Flexible Policy Management? Thanks...

DaVince said:
If only there's video call on WM6.. i would stick to it... video calling is quite popular here.. my girlfriend has a 3G fone... so video calling is very important for me.
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How popular is the Universal in Manila? Just curious...

cktlcmd said:
How popular is the Universal in Manila? Just curious...
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Not very popular. Probably not more than 25 people owns a Universal in Manila.. and only 3-4 of them (including me) actually bothers to flash their ROMS since they're too scared..
85% of cellphone users here use Nokia since Nokia devices (particularly the N series) have good 3G support. Most PPC devices seen here would be the Atom, XDA II/i, and Dopod 838 Pro.
3G is very good here.. and the reason I bought a Universal is because during the time I bought this (early 2006), this was the first PPC available that supports video calling... So please somebody make video calling work on WM6.. :beg:

[2007-12-12] Q-Mobile 1.0 ROM (5.2.1948 Build 18548.0.7.0)

Attention, this ROM version is now deprecated, see this thread for Q-Mobile 1.2!
Well, it was bound to happen...I love all the custom ROMs out there but none of them quite suited my needs. I'm a business traveler and as such I tend to need lots of screen real estate, and a fast device, with the best software preloaded and optimizations up the wazoo.
Introducing Q-Mobile...it's all of that and more. You can see best what applications are loaded from the screen shots below. Suffice it to say, they don't even begin to do justice to the fine grained care that has been taken to configure each application for optimum use ability. I have been working on this ROM for almost a week now--my method is far deeper than simply throwing packages and RGU files together and hoping for the best. There are literally HUNDREDS of registry tweaks and care was taken with every application added--no file was left unscrutinized or tested.
Some Highlights (this is an extremely compact feature list of what I added/removed/changed):
.Net CF 3.5
SqlCe 3.5
FULL Video Access (Main YouTube as well as m.youtube)
Custom KaiserTweak for this ROM.
Arcsoft MMS 4.2.8.1
Esmertec Java 2007.08.02
Microsoft Office 2007
Microsoft One Note Mobile
HTC Equalizer 1.0.2
HTC Random Access
TCPMP 0.81
It is worth noting that this ROM is intended for the HTC TYTN II style devices (e.g. Radio 14.09 will not work).
WWE (English) ROM : MegaUpload |RapidShare
I'd like to thank everyone on all forums but especially xda-developers. Without people like you none of this would be possible. In addition it is probably obvious that I pilfered what I considered the cream of the crop applications, ideas, graphics, etc. No doubt many reading this will realize their work in here somewhere.
P.S. You may notice a seeming lack of applications--that is because I personally heavily use Spb and Resco products to complete my device. Feel free to download individual cabs to fill in any freeware you feel should be integrated.
Enjoy,
-Q

HTC Equalizer 1.0.2
You got this working???
World Card Mobile
Do you have a cab file of this? I got a other ROM and this was tooken out of it.
What is: Field test, Restore black bars & SQL Query Analyzer?
Does it include Touch Flo?

reserved
Benchmark results:

xmoo said:
HTC Equalizer 1.0.2
You got this working???
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Yes it works for me.
World Card Mobile
Do you have a cab file of this? I got a other ROM and this was tooken out of it.
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No, I left this as part of the ROM image...check dutty's page though, he should have a link for it: http://www.cinetsystems.com/xda/index.php?path=Kaiser+Cab+Collections/
What is: Field test, Restore black bars & SQL Query Analyzer?
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Field test is an application that exists on every device (unless it has been cooked out) and is extremely useful for troubleshooting network problems. Obviously you can remove the link for it if you don't like it--the exe is only 33KB so its not exactly a hog.
Restore Black Bars is a tiny app courtesy of jasjamming that restores black bars if you change your theme then decide to go back to the default.
SQL Query analyzer is an app that's included with the new SQL CE 3.5...I'm not really sure how useful it would be but again, its tiny so if you don't like it just remove the \Windows\Start Menu\System\SQL Query Analyzer.lnk file.
Does it include Touch Flo?
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I originally wrote "nope, too sluggish for me". This is a misstatement given that TouchFLO is indeed included (as evidenced by the screen shots. TouchFLO is the application that allows finger scrolling in many apps (ala iPhone). What I was referring to was FTouchFLO/Touch Cube (the app that allows gestures to bring up special screens (other facets of the 3D view, etc). That is not included.
Keep in mind that you can tweak or turn off TouchFLO through the KaiserTweak app under Programs\System. I myself turn it off because Spb Pocket Plus offers better support and functionality in this regard.

Quentin- said:
Yes it works for me.
No, I left this as part of the ROM image...check dutty's page though, he should have a link for it: http://www.cinetsystems.com/xda/index.php?path=Kaiser+Cab+Collections/
Field test is an application that exists on every device (unless it has been cooked out) and is extremely useful for troubleshooting network problems. Obviously you can remove the link for it if you don't like it--the exe is only 33KB so its not exactly a hog.
Restore Black Bars is a tiny app courtesy of jasjamming that restores black bars if you change your theme then decide to go back to the default.
SQL Query analyzer is an app that's included with the new SQL CE 3.5...I'm not really sure how useful it would be but again, its tiny so if you don't like it just remove the \Windows\Start Menu\System\SQL Query Analyzer.lnk file.
Nope, too sluggish for me.
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Thxx for the explaining.
How did you get the Equalizer to work?
Too bad it does not have Touch Flo. Or else I would install this rom.

which radio?
It's late, getting sleepy......I'd like to experiment tomorrow.
What radio would you suggest using for an ATT Tilt phone?
How's the battery performance?
Any possibility of summarizing more details of the work that you've put into this ROM?
Thanks.

Downloading now!
The benchmark result looks great! I also think TouchFlo is too sluggish, it is only for people who want to have a nice look but not the speed or stability.
Thanks for sharing us!

trivguy said:
It's late, getting sleepy......I'd like to experiment tomorrow.
What radio would you suggest using for an ATT Tilt phone?
Thanks.
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It does not matter when you have a TITL or TyTN II. At the moment you are using Dutty's Hybrid NO.7 NUSkool RTM with Radio 1.27.12.17. So you can flash this Q-Mobile rom.
But you should know that when you flash any roms what is built from AT&T rom, you need to flash radio 1.27.14.09!!!

This thing have Connection Setup/Network Wizard? Thoughts on reliability and speed versus Dutty, anyone?

Whats the Wireless modem thingy in the connections menu ?

congrats
It looks Great, Nice to see your cooking mate, well done

Bouloama said:
Whats the Wireless modem thingy in the connections menu ?
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You can turn your device in a Wireless router.

There's no connection/network wizard, which is a bit of a shame. It's not a show stopper for me (always keep a T-Mobile cab handy on my storage card), but it could limit the adoption for this ROM.
I've just flashed and configured Activesync, here's my thoughts so far:
Appearance: Nice. It's got the cool black look, and it's even got a nice new image for WinMobile's equivalent to the hour glass - the spinning pie chart - which is more in keeping with the black feel. There's a single theme installed (good), and the splash screen is quite nice too.
Speed: Pretty good. I'd put it slightly ahead of Dutty, but perhaps slightly slower than Custel with Mobile Crack. Screen rotate is a little slow, but app switching is speedy (instantly back into messaging, or contacts).
Apps and config: There's no keyboard sliding sound icon, which might be a problem for some. I always turn it off anyway, and that's the default here. There aren't really many surprises in terms of app choices.
All in all I'm very impressed with it. I'm going to give it a few days to see if it does anything to upset me

hmm,going to def give this a try for a bit..

trivguy said:
Any possibility of summarizing more details of the work that you've put into this ROM?
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Sure, I was tired last night and didn't really feel like elaborating. Here goes...
All help files updated/removed to reflect current ROM state.
Default directory layout and file locations updated to be more intuitive.
Programs organized into folders reflecting their purpose.
Removed tons of unused files and settings.
Default button for Comm Manager is now single click on the record button (I miss that they removed the button the Hermes had for this).
Voice Speed Dial removed.
Default network settings removed (this never worked for me since I have an internet plan with T-Mobile and it always tried to set up the wrong one).
.Net CF 3.5 and SqlCe 3.5 are custom to my ROM (I had heard there were problems with the packages built by others so I built my own from scratch).
A *LOT* of work was done ensuring maximum media compatibility...as mentioned before streaming (mms, rtsp) protocols work, but the full version of pages like Google videos, YouTube, etc also should work.
As mentioned already there is no TouchFlo Cube, HTC Home, etc.
SQM (MS spyware) has been removed.
ClearStorage was removed (this can be accomplished via the soft buttons+reset anyway).
Sliding keyboard sounds removed (this was annoying anyway).
Lots of useless default images and templates removed.
Games removed (there are cabs for them anyway, and I personally never used them).
Windows Media player has a skin in theme with the rest of the device.
The default calculator has been removed (there are much better ones available out there--check out HP48 emu or 1-Calc).
IA Zip removed (there is the Office Mobile zip viewer, or better zip apps out there...Spb, Resco, etc).
Windows Live removed.
HTC Audio plugin added for use with WMP (works when device turned off as well).
All ringtones except one removed (feel free to set your own--this is how it should be anyway).
BT FTP removed (this is the Bluetooth FTP server/explorer which imho is quite useless).
Again I'll mention TONS of registry tweaks to make the default behavior of the device more intuitive.
Page file size set to 12MB by default.
While I'm sure this list is by no means complete it will hopefully give you a better idea of what's in/not in it. Cheers,

Great job on the rom. Work perfect for me even after i loaded all my apps.
Tilt User

So how is the stability and speed of this? GPS / Internet sharing works fine? Thats what I use most of.

hello, Could you please tell me how to add or post a PTT rom I tried all the hacks i could find to make it work and it will not thanks. wc3sam

PostDeals said:
So how is the stability and speed of this? GPS / Internet sharing works fine? Thats what I use most of.
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Two very important things for me as well, from my perspective it meets both of these criteria. FYI I forgot to mention there's an app called Visual GPS available under Programs\System that is preconfigured to work on the Kaiser...if you haven't heard of/used it before it will help acquire sats faster.
What you do is:
1) Make sure QuickGPS has current data (by default I've configured it to automatically get this so it should).
2) Run Visual GPS to acquire satellite lock.
3) Launch Google Maps or TomTom.
The reasoning is that Visual GPS can acquire a satellite lock faster than either of these applications, but even a cold acquisition (no QuickGPS/VisualGPS) is sub 30 seconds for me so maybe it doesn't matter.
Cheers

Congratulations, mate... great work here

Check this out WM7 !!!

http://www.htcclub.net/en/shownews.php?ID=294

Nice show
hope this stuff will be available to kaiser...
pserbanp said:
http://www.htcclub.net/en/shownews.php?ID=294
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Hope so indeed - looks stunning!!!!!

jcespi2005 said:
Nice show
hope this stuff will be available to kaiser...
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For shure will be like WM6 was for all WM5 PDAPhones (TyTn,3600...etc)

to bad thats a smartphone OS shown there and not a ppc OS

WM7...
...will have nearly same features that iPhone showed last year...

To me looks to be the next zune device, as you can see one of the screenshots where the mp3 is playing. A copy cat of IPHONE definately but nicer feel of the OS we currently use on the kaiser.

shogunmark said:
to bad thats a smartphone OS shown there and not a ppc OS
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Windows Mobile 7 will dramatically change the way we use mobile devices. It will emphasize the use of touch on the device, as well as motion gestures created by using the device. It is, absolutely, Microsoft’s effort to beat back the iPhone, and the iPhone is referenced several times in the document.
Windows Mobile 7 will use touch gestures, similar to how the iPhone does. You will be able to flick through lists, pan, swipe sideway, draw on the screen. A lot of emphasis has been put on making navigation easier and doing away with scrollbars, including a new scroll handle that allows for multiple ways of finding items extremely fast.
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Also, row 1 column 2 shows a SIP keyboard. I think this is the PPC version.

Well it certainly looks like more then just a skin face lift, looks pretty darn cool. I hope we can use it on our recently new devices, but when they say that gestures will be controlled by a camera looking up through the screen, i dont know if that applies to device hardware we have now?
Id on' really know how the biotouch stuff works right now
edit: ohh they must mean the actual camera on the back/front f your device that would do that sort of recognition I guess. I just remember seeing this youtube video of a microsoft screen witht hat "shock" technology where the guy said the screen had a a camera under it so it was able to follow all your gestures etc.. perhaps nto the same tech we are talkigna bout here I suppose.

It sure looks interesting. One thing though:
It will feature graphical transitions, subtle effects, and other things to make it more interesting to look at.
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My fears are that - as with Vista - it's a lot of window dressing with limited (added) functionality. And for all that window dressing, we need more power. More power means more battery power. Maybe I'm alone in this, but I'd rather have a dull looking tool than a great looking gadget.
At this moment, the Psion 5MX that I used to own, beats a WM6 device on functionality. Hands down.

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My fears are that - as with Vista - it's a lot of window dressing with limited (added) functionality.
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I just have to say, if you read the tech docs, Vista added a LOT under the hood - it's not just an XP "skin." Truth is, I even see a lot of added functionality in plain view as well.
Club3d said:
To me looks to be the next zune device, as you can see one of the screenshots where the mp3 is playing. A copy cat of IPHONE definately but nicer feel of the OS we currently use on the kaiser.
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This really doesn't mean anything... just because it looks like a Zune doesn't mean it IS a Zune. As I posted in this thread a month ago (to VERY little fanfare ), MS has an entire department dedicated to giving WM the functionality of a Zune. It's called the "Pink and Purple Project."
The only thing that scares me is that they'll make it SO much like the Zune that I'll lose my Media Player functionality - I remember reading that Zunes have proprietary software and don't use WMP - they're not even "PlaysForSure!" Not sure if that's accurate.
However, can't Media Center convert saved shows to a low quality and sync up with a Zune automatically over WiFi? How sweet would that be for my Tilt!

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I thought the pictures show touch screen and Smartphone doesn't have touch screen does it? anyway, someone will make that keyboard available sooner than WM7 for sure

How can you work the gestures without a touchscreen? So it's for PPC.
Thanx for sharing the info

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If you've read anything about Windows Mobile 7 you would know that Microsoft will not have different SKUs for SmartPhone or PocketPCs this time around.
It will be one size fits all. (Probably still in a few different flavors so OEMs can chose one with Office and one without etc, but the general functionality, look and core will be the same)

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How can you work the gestures without a touchscreen? So it's for PPC. Thanx for sharing the info
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Maybe I'm an idiot, but I think think this Smartphone vs. PPC argument is moot.
You see, the gestures and touch features (such as dual touch) described in that document can't be done with Smartphones OR PPCs yet. They require the new touch system that the iPhone has (using electricity from your body vs. pressure on the screen), and thus these features (and maybe WM7 entirely) will depend on an entirely new generation of devices.
As such, if WM7 is truly such a huge leap, I doubt we'll see the entire thing released for the Tilt - I'm sure some chefs will extract and add features to WM6, but looks like the Tilt and ANY WM6 devices at this point won't be able to handle that stuff.
(That's not even my $0.02 worth, because there's a distinct possibility that I have no idea what I'm talking about...)

I found this, SEXY
http://microsoft.blognewschannel.com/archives/2008/01/06/exclusive-windows-mobile-7-to-focus-on-touch-and-motion-gestures/
Citrap

Seeing as the kaiser has no accelerometer, that feature is useless...
And for all you noobs who are going to say GPS!!!, that is no where in hell as accurate as i needs to be to detect in/out in 2 or 3 inches (pulg.)

gabriel31337 said:
...will have nearly same features that iPhone showed last year...
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Friday I have the iphone..!! But I will always have my tytn 2 (however HTC scrude us with the drivers) I just dont know how to unlock it yet.

this is old news!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=357183
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333211
and there are many more!

drokkon said:
I just have to say, if you read the tech docs, Vista added a LOT under the hood - it's not just an XP "skin." Truth is, I even see a lot of added functionality in plain view as well.
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Sure, but most of it is eye-candy and stuff that I don't care about. I want functionality, stuff I can use.

What is the difference between WM 6.0 and 6.1?

Can you write here differences between WM 6.0 and 6.1?
Or advantages and disadvantages?
thanks

alkapone02 said:
Can you write here differences between WM 6.0 and 6.1?
Or advantages and disadvantages?
thanks
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Yea, I would also like to know the complete Changelog between 6.0 and 6.1
Thanks in advance.

Copy / Paste (finally!)
Domain Enroll in Settings (Enrolling in a domain will connect your device with company resources.)
New home screen (pan left and right to check out missed calls, notifications like email, sms, etc.)
Change Master Security Code
Added text input settings
Recent Programs when pressing Start menu Threaded SMS!
When you compose an email, or SMS, and start typing the name of the contact in the "To:" field, the contact names finally pop up like Windows Mobile Professional!
Internet Explorer now lets you define a homepage, and also zoom in and out using a nice and clean interface
advantages ofcource!

...and video performance is better.. a little.. but there´s a difference

Better Bluetooth performance. Better reception (at least for me, running sleuth v3 with radio 1.64.08.21). Threaded SMS (not sure I like it, can't delete without going back to home sms/mms message screen). Device seems more responsive. Canconnect to domain resources, Program Management?, Better task/process manager....
But really more like upgrade to second edition, than full upgrade. But it does seem to be better.

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Can you write here differences between WM 6.0 and 6.1?
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See attached

Finally question - battery?
It's something new with battery performance in WM6.1?

alkapone02 said:
It's something new with battery performance in WM6.1?
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I would have to say there is better battery life than in WM6.
Mainly because of the Radio's etc.
When I am in a 3G area and on the phone I would see my battery diminish quite significantly. Now it goes down just a little faster than with EDGE/GPRS.

mkford Copy / Paste (finally!)
New home screen (pan left and right to check out missed calls, notifications like email, sms, etc.)
Internet Explorer now lets you define a homepage, and also zoom in and out using a nice and clean interface
advantages ofcource!
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First, that interface you talk about isn't there bub. That interface is called Manilla & that's only for VGA SP's & PIE is exactly the same interface as always. Just a zoom feature has been added + you've been able to set your homepage since PPC2002.
The changes aren't that grand. Unless you really know how to mod & hack the device stick with 6.0 for now. If you really must try it, then I suggest using Sleuth's V3.0 WM6.1. It's the best of 'em in my opinion & the network setup is automated. It's also a very clean ROM.

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First, that interface you talk about isn't there bub. That interface is called Manilla & that's only for VGA SP's & PIE is exactly the same interface as always. Just a zoom feature has been added + you've been able to set your homepage since PPC2002.
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actually that interface he refered to is actually the interface for the wm6.1 for smartphones, not for manila. that whole list is actually the list of changes for smartphones, not mw6.1 professional

boo. Allows to be charged seperately for using phone as modem for a computer. I'm sure there will be some way around that.

(at last) the ability to set your own homepage in Internet Explorer, plus you can now zoom into pages and the interface has been cleaned up.