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Struck by an MDA brick!!

Made a huge error.....didnt go through forums and read instructions before trying to Flash a German T-Mobile MDA Compact to a English ROM....
The device is completely dead....
Followed all the steps required to get it back up...It is refusing to do so though....
Used this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=19500
One thing to note is that I am not using the AC charger, am using the USB cable to charge the phone.
Can someone please helpme...
Haven't got past the bootloader mode...

If you followed the instructions from the other thread, it should have started flashing.
Some things to check on:
1) Did you do a full d2s before you attempted the upgrade? It's always good to have something to fall back on.
2) If you can get to a bootloader screen, all is definitely not lost.
3) Sometimes, it takes 4 or 5 minutes for the "Press to flash" comes up on the screen so be patient with that.
4) Make sure you did exactly a 416 byte copy from the original rom file in to the new flash file.
5) You can only write an nb1 file from the pc AFTER it has been created from the pocket pc. If the SD card has been pc formatted, the nb1 file will write to it but the pocket pc won't recognize it and will just sit there at the bootloader screen.
HTH

I think I fired the MDA
Well I did not create the nbf file from the ppc, downloaded it from the the forum FTP. I do not have the backup of the nbf file. As I mentioned I did not read the forums before trying the update.
I just downloaded the T-Mobile ROM update and tried installing it. Obivousioly it didn't work, Game the dreaded the 112 error in the 3rd step.
Am not even getting the bootlader screen now..
Any ideas on how I can get this device up and running.?...

ok, need some clarification here. "What" are you trying to load (nbf files or nb1 files) and how are you trying to load them (SD flash or the standard USB based upgrade)?
Easy enough to check to see if your device can still get to bootload mode....hold the camera and power switches in at the same time and hit soft reset with your stylus. After letting go of those and you see either "Serial" or "USB" at the top of the screen, you should still be able to recover from this.

Tried with the nb1 files not nbf (sorry abt teh error)..
The bootloader screen was showing up ...unitll I tried the T-Mobile MDAcompact_vers11201
After the 112 error while updating...the device now refusing to get to the bootloader mode.
Have I fried the device and made it unusable....?

hey just got back the bootloader screen...

Take the SD card out, disconnect the USB and tell me what happens when you hold the power and camera buttons in at the same time, then hit the soft reset.
Also, has the unit been charged recently?

Its showing Serial v1.00...after the reset.
Its been on the USB chatge all along.....

Great. If you get Serial at the top, this can be recovered.
If you want a good T-Mobile 1.12 rom file, go here and use this one:
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Magician/tmobile-uk_wwe_ROM_1.12.00(thereapermanl).rar
Unpack it and follow all the procedures about copying the 416 bytes, rewriting the file, etc. from the other thread. I have tested this rom file and it installs ok.

Thanks for the encouraging words...
Will it work even if I do not have a backup of the original ROM on my machine?....I only have the tmobile.nb1 file which I got from the XDA forums.
Lemme try using that and editing it.
Thanks a ton for your help.

You might be a little stuck for an nb1 flash if you don't have an original flash back up but don't fear. You can go here and get this WWE1.12 file and just do a USB type upgrade:
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Magician/Shipped_ROMS/WWE_11200_128_11210_ship.exe
I know this one works too. It's ROM 1.12, Radio 1.12 and Ext_ROM 1.12. When you try to run the upgrade program though, it might give you a Country ID error. If so, use the attached upgrade program instead. If this one gives you a Country ID error again, close the program and just run it again. I've been down all these roads already.

Lemme get this right this time: I will be doing the following
1. Install the ROM as you have mentioned. With the country id hack if necessary
2. Hopefully by now the device would be alive. If so will take a backup of the ROM on the SD card
3. From then on follow the instruction given in the doc.
Hope I get it righ this time else Its going to be a long night for me.
Lemme know if I have to do anything else.

Either ROM will work fine for you. It just depends on whether or not you want I-Mate stuff on it or T-Mobile stuff on it.
Doing the USB upgrade will put the I-Mate ROM on but after that, it should be working and you can then do an SD backup, follow the SD flashing procedures and get the T-Mobile ROM on.
Good Luck!

The masupgrateut is throwing up a ruu.dll error?...you seen that one before?

What sort of error? Not found?

yup...
I extracted the ROM exe and found teh file...copied it to the windows folder..and ran the no id program...no error this time round but the update is still giving a COuntry ID error...
Been looking at various posts...specially this one...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=14973
Thinks thats gonna help?

ok...two things.....just run it again. The no ID program sometimes does that on the first time 'round so just run it again.
Second, stick this at the end of the RUU.conf file:
[CHECKCEID_TYPE]=1

ran the program multiple times...still getting the COuntry ID error...

Are you running this program? MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe
...with the change in the RUU.conf file?

I just noticed something....did you extract all the files to a single directory and just run it from there or did you just pull a few out?
ALL the files have to be in the same directory. This is also where you need to execute the installer program.

Flashing using MicroSD Card

Hi all,
I always find flashing with a card is a lot faster than using a software because I can do this anytime with just one little card. I didn't find this in wiki so might as well just make one. tested by myself.
***IMPORTANT***
Please make sure you have HardSPL on your device. And also make sure you have more than 50% of battery left or you can plug in a charger just to make sure there is no power failure. I am not sure if SIM unlocked is necessary prior to performing these steps, so hopefully someone (maybe pof) can help me with this. DO THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK.
1. Get a 128MB MicroSD card (or whatever size you like) and format it (***please make sure you format it, but not just delete all contents on it)
2. find the ROM image you would like to use, normally namede RUU_Sign.nbh, and rename it to "KAISIMG.nbh"
3. Plug the card into the phone, then enter boot loader mode by pressing down the Power and Camera buttons simultaneously, and using the stylus at the same time to press the RESET button at the left side. Continue pressing the two buttons for a few seconds after pressing and releasing the reset button until the bootloader screen appears. (taken from Wiki)
4. You will first see a tri-color screen then the information on the card. Press power button to start flashing.
5. After all these are done, press the reset button located at the bottom of the phone to reset the device.
DISCLAIMER
I take no responsiblity for any conflict, fault, or damage caused by this flashing procedure. No warranties of any kind are given.

vip_snoopy said:
Hi all,
I always find flashing with a card is a lot faster than using a software because I can do this anytime with just one little card. I didn't find this in wiki so might as well just make one. tested by myself.
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Thanks for the finding.
I'll test the card method when i have something fo flash

added to Wiki

Has anyone actually tried this method ?
Was wondering if anyone has tried this method for flashing on of helmi's roms or even the stock htc rom on a tilt and if so which rom did you use
Thanks in advance
And eep the GREAT work up guys

Works a treat
Yes, it works fine. I've flashed HTC stock, Helmi, and Dutty's just fine with this method.
/av

I did this but my kaiser just sits on the boot loader. When you say to make sure hardspl in on the device do you mean to place the hardspl.exe on the root of the device?

vip_snoopy said:
Hi all,
1. Get a 128MB MicroSD card (or whatever size you like) and format it (***please make sure you format it, but not just delete all contents on it)
2. find the ROM image you would like to use, normally namede RUU_Sign.nbh, and rename it to "KAISIMG.nbh"
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are we supposed to copy the renamed file "KAISIMG.nbh" to the MicroSD card before proceeding to step 3 ??

mp3news said:
are we supposed to copy the renamed file "KAISIMG.nbh" to the MicroSD card before proceeding to step 3 ??
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YES.................

Well should i try this or not. im downloading htc rom right now. post you back in 20 mins

xdaking said:
Well should i try this or not. im downloading htc rom right now. post you back in 20 mins
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Update in Progress......

xdaking said:
Update in Progress......
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Nice nice nice all done
very nice ive flashed the Duttys Hybird with SD card and everything works 100% thanks to pof, vip snoopy and all the developers.
just need to get rid of orange splash screen thats all i want to do now
thank you again

jamespaulritter said:
I did this but my kaiser just sits on the boot loader. When you say to make sure hardspl in on the device do you mean to place the hardspl.exe on the root of the device?
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hard spl is a dos file you have to run on command prompt while device is connected via activsync (green icon) if you can not power up the device forget about HSPL
HardSPL is a 4 min tiny operation and will save you from bricking your device
If you have low signal, goto settings-> phones -> and select GSM and BAND manualy. this will bring the 4 bars of signal nicely. internet is more faster too

vip_snoopy said:
Hi all,
I always find flashing with a card is a lot faster than using a software because I can do this anytime with just one little card. I didn't find this in wiki so might as well just make one. tested by myself.
***IMPORTANT***
Please make sure you have HardSPL on your device. And also make sure you have more than 50% of battery left or you can plug in a charger just to make sure there is no power failure. I am not sure if SIM unlocked is necessary prior to performing these steps, so hopefully someone (maybe pof) can help me with this. DO THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK.
1. Get a 128MB MicroSD card (or whatever size you like) and format it (***please make sure you format it, but not just delete all contents on it)
2. find the ROM image you would like to use, normally namede RUU_Sign.nbh, and rename it to "KAISIMG.nbh"
3. Plug the card into the phone, then enter boot loader mode by pressing down the Power and Camera buttons simultaneously, and using the stylus at the same time to press the RESET button at the left side. Continue pressing the two buttons for a few seconds after pressing and releasing the reset button until the bootloader screen appears. (taken from Wiki)
4. You will first see a tri-color screen then the information on the card. Press power button to start flashing.
5. After all these are done, press the reset button located at the bottom of the phone to reset the device.
DISCLAIMER
I take no responsiblity for any conflict, fault, or damage caused by this flashing procedure. No warranties of any kind are given.
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Dear I Have an XDA Atom Life Its Stuck on Logo.
Can You Tell Me How To Flash Via Memory Card.
Bcoz Phone System Is Not Match As Per Your Post .
WBR
Bluffmaster

bluffmaster said:
Dear I Have an XDA Atom Life Its Stuck on Logo.
Can You Tell Me How To Flash Via Memory Card.
Bcoz Phone System Is Not Match As Per Your Post .
WBR
Bluffmaster
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His quote "DISCLAIMER
I take no responsiblity for any conflict, fault, or damage caused by this flashing procedure. No warranties of any kind are given."
and why would you try something in a Kaiser post for your ATOM? Not quite the same phone.

vip_snoopy said:
1. Get a 128MB MicroSD card (or whatever size you like) and format it (***please make sure you format it, but not just delete all contents on it)
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Just to clarify this step, for those who may be confused (like I was):
You can format the card using Windows XP and just select "quick format". That was enough to get this process working for me.
To the original author: THANKS! This process allowed me to flash here @ work, where USB flashing fails due to firewall software we have to run.
-Brett.

A couple of shortcuts
1. This will work with any card that's formatted with FAT32. It doesn't need to be blank or freshly formatted. Flashing won't affect (or be affected by) the other data that's on the card.
2. You don't need to use the stylus to start the process. Start with the device off - all the way off. Then press the power and camera buttons at the same time and you should go right into the boot loader.
One last thing. When the update completes you'll see "Update Complete" and "UPDATE SUCCESS". At that point none of the keys work. You will need to do a reset with the stylus. My first flash, I let this screen sit a long time before I was sure that the flash had completed. No need.

Is there a way to flash to an OEM rom with the card? Otherwise, I'll have to wait until tonight.
Thanks.

hi plz help me
i flashed sum touchit rom to my phone and im just stuck in wot i think is bootloader mode
its shows on the tri colour screen
IPL: 3.04.0001
SPL: 1.11.0000
plz help me im ready to make dontations to whoever can fix this problem
HEEEEEEEELLLLLPPPPPPPP

I too am having the same problem. It just sits at the tri-coloured screen basically saying either "Serial" or "USB" (depending if its still connected to the 'puter).
Any ideas how to solve this one? I have the microsd card freshly formatted FAT32 with KAISIMG.NBH clearing sitting on the root of the storage card.
Seems like it's waiting a file to be transferred via USB or some other connectivity method rather than looking on the MicroSD card.

i am ...
really stuck i need sum1s help badly.. plzplzplzplzplz

HELP 730v HELP trying...... to get to WM6.1

Assistance required by a Guru.
USB + Power + active synch (MDC)
I’ve used
Herm Unlock v3
Magic Unlocker
CheetahUnlocker
They all run ok
I’m pretty sure the device is unlocked!
SD card is FAT32, CHEEIMG.nbh resides at the root.
Reset + left button
Rainbow screen appears
CHEE100
IPL-0.20
CHEE100
SPL-1.40.01iNex
And that is as far as It gets!!!!
it just sits there and does nothing can anyone assist ?

a011528 said:
Assistance required by a Guru.
And that is as far as It gets!!!!
it just sits there and does nothing can anyone assist ?
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Actualy you should first understand that even if your Trëo is compatible with wm6.1 you must be sure that it is compatible with the rom that you are trying to install,
Next you should try to download the rom again so you can be sure that the rom you are trying to load is not corrupted...
and if all this is done you will probably need to try out the USBcable install mode!
Realy hope that you can solve your problem
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ROM, is the third different source (same version) to ensure no corruption.
USBcable install mode, can you provide any further details?

a011528 said:
ROM, is the third different source (same version) to ensure no corruption.
USBcable install mode, can you provide any further details?
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strange that you can't install that, it's usually very simple and fast...
let me see if I understand, you are saying that you are trying to install the file when it is connected to your computer but the "cheeming" is on the SD card?!
If that's what you are doing just unplug the USB cable, you can't sync and use your SD at the same time... Just use the POWER cable and repeat all the process...
If that doesn't work for you, you should create a folder on your computer desktop and copy the "cheeming" to that folder, next copy whatever program you have used to change the SPL to that same folder.
Make a backup of the original files from your mobile, I hope you wont need them, but you should backup anyway...
then run the program and "cross your fingers"...
in about 5 or less minutes it should be done, and your treo should be runing your new WM6.1
This is the "risky" way, because you can "brick" your Treo, and I can assure you that it isn't easy to "unbrick"!
Hope you can do it with the SDcard method.
If I can help in any other way, please post or add on msn.
[email protected]

how i flash with usb
couple things to do. download a kaiser custom ruu. unrar or unzip your new rom you want to flash. best to have seperate folder to do this. rename the rom file to RUU_signed.nbh then run the kaiser ruu and follow the steps. very simple to do. make sure active sync is enabled before doing this.

A Problem after installing a ROM - RESCUE Options

A couple day ago I've installed a new ROM (Touch FLO Manila 2D) on my Herald using "FLASH CENTER". It has worked for some time, but after one rebooting the system didn't start any more - after turning on it appears a green screen for a pair seconds, then my Herald goes automatically down. And it repeats again and again... And it is not possible to restore the system though ActiveSync, because the Herald doesn't start at all.
I have looked through in this forum for possible rescue options. one of them seemed to be FLASHING FROM SD CARD. But this had no effect - a tricolor has appeared, but it happened nothing more. Probably there is possible to install a ROM this way on working WINDOWS MOBILE' s and not at broken.
I thought - may be it is possible to install a Windows Mobile on SD CARD (something like portable version) and so boot a system from SD Card ???
I hope you can help me.
Thanks.

radjapost said:
A couple day ago I've installed a new ROM (Touch FLO Manila 2D) on my Herald using "FLASH CENTER". It has worked for some time, but after one rebooting the system didn't start any more - after turning on it appears a green screen for a pair seconds, then my Herald goes automatically down. And it repeats again and again... And it is not possible to restore the system though ActiveSync, because the Herald doesn't start at all.
I have looked through in this forum for possible rescue options. one of them seemed to be FLASHING FROM SD CARD. But this had no effect - a tricolor has appeared, but it happened nothing more. Probably there is possible to install a ROM this way on working WINDOWS MOBILE' s and not at broken.
I thought - may be it is possible to install a Windows Mobile on SD CARD (something like portable version) and so boot a system from SD Card ???
I hope you can help me.
Thanks.
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This is the wrong forum for this. I have written a few guides on how "unbrick" the Herald.
You can flash just fine from the tricolor screen. (That's where the phone takes you automatically when you flash "from" windows mobile.) So no worries, you aren't out of luck. Worse case scenario, you search for the GoldCard method if nothing else works.

Hello!
Thank you for your help.
You say, I am on right way with my "tricolor screen". But why doesn't happen anything? May be:
- should I just take another SD Card? My is 1 GB - is it OK, too big, too small?
- did I something wrong with "flashing" methods? I did it 2 ways:
- just with any ROM-File in NBH-Format, which was renamed to HERAIMG.NBH and placed alone to the formated SD Card
- in addition to HERAIMG.NBH also other files (like "EnterBootloader.exe"), which are often inclusive in ROM- ZIPs.
- I should be more patient and wait more than 1 hour with a hope that anything will change?
Could you give me the links for "unbricking" the Herald?
Thanks a lot.

You misunderstood me. You don't flash with the SD card through the tricolor screen. You flash through the regular flash center. If you're not hardSPL you have to flash the stock ROM.
As far as the flashing through SD goes, it should give you a countdown before the tricolor screen appears. If it doesn't, or if it's too fast to read, then your SD card is too slow.

As it loads this tricolor screen I see the following data:
IPL 1.08.0001
SPL 1.08.0001
Perhaps it means, that I indeed need a GOLDCARD method.
You don't flash with the SD card through the tricolor screen. You flash through the regular flash center.
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But the FLASH CENTER works only on WINDOWS. So I can't use the regular flash center, because my Herald doesn't start up and ActiveSync doesn't see him.
If you're not hardSPL you have to flash the stock ROM.
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Where do I get the original ROM, may be even WM5? In your FTP- server I have found some "ship.exe"- Files, but I can't extract ".nbh" files from them.
it should give you a countdown before the tricolor screen appears. If it doesn't, or if it's too fast to read, then your SD card is too slow.
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May be that is the point!!! My SD is too slow. Will be in this case "GoldCard" an ideal solution for me?
Thanks.

radjapost said:
As it loads this tricolor screen I see the following data:
IPL 1.08.0001
SPL 1.08.0001
Perhaps it means, that I indeed need a GOLDCARD method.
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This means that you attempted to flash a HardSPL or another SPL when your SPL did not meet the state requirements. You NEED to create a Goldcard.
radjapost said:
But the FLASH CENTER works only on WINDOWS. So I can't use the regular flash center, because my Herald doesn't start up and ActiveSync doesn't see him.
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No, the flash center doesn't only work in Windows. It works on the bootloader mode. ActiveSync's icon turning green doesn't mean that activesync saw the phone, it means that it can synchronize your information with the computer.
radjapost said:
Where do I get the original ROM, may be even WM5? In your FTP- server I have found some "ship.exe"- Files, but I can't extract ".nbh" files from them.
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If you broke your SPL like I mentioned above, you will have to use the Goldcard first then you will be able to flash any stock Herald/Tmobile Wing ROM.
radjapost said:
May be that is the point!!! My SD is too slow. Will be in this case "GoldCard" an ideal solution for me?
Thanks.
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I don't know if it will be too slow for that, too. But if you broke your SPL, the goldcard is the ONLY way to fix it.

The problem is - for GOLD Card I need a working WINDOWS Mobile Handy... and I don't have such one at the moment.
Is it possible to become a standard GOLD Card, which would be suitable for most of Heralds?
Thanks

radjapost said:
The problem is - for GOLD Card I need a working WINDOWS Mobile Handy... and I don't have such one at the moment.
Is it possible to become a standard GOLD Card, which would be suitable for most of Heralds?
Thanks
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You don't need a windows mobile phone. You can also create one using linux.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=485364
Obviously, make it for the Herald not the Dream.

Hi.
You don't need a windows mobile phone. You can also create one using Linux.
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I've installed Linux on my computer, but i can't find a correct command to read a CID of my SD Card. My SD is located in Linux under "/media/disk-1" and I try to write something like "cat /media/disk-1:*/cid", but the Linux doesn't recognize CID command at all.
Actually, I hope, that after getting CID it will not be difficult to obtain a goldcard.img through QMAT. Am I right?
Thanks.

Palm Teeo 750 Help me please!!!

Hello Friends.
My English is not very good but let me indicate the beginning'll try to explain.
I bought the device from last year's TR TURKCELL un rom convert was 6.5.
My job, I had to return 6.5 to 6.1 sees. I tried to go back a lot of things but I think the name of the error RUU_signed.nbh file with the name change CHEEIMG.nbh want to install after the following issue has occurred.
How do I do if I've stayed if the bootloader. Now red, green, blue and white colors on the screen there. When a screen comes up gray. when I press the camera, restart button does bootloder screen.
On Screen
Palm TR
IPL-0.20
Palm TR
SPL-0.24 0000
Writes...
USB and PC hardware in the device is visible. Can not connect to the bootloader in the Active SYNC.
I researched the Internet to the device I need to take the original rom. A lot like the original Treo750_Cingular_ROM called Treo750_2.23_ROW_WM6 ROM file I tried did not take. As enhancements on a PC via USB, but does not do installation DesktopUpdater. I tried with SD card, makes installation , BOOT Ok GSM gives OK, but gives FAİL Errors on OS install. At the end of the installation gives the error bar. I'm normal with FAT32 formatted SD was snow. SD card would install the original file 1.16RWE_CHEEIMG.nbh. camera, I would hold the restart button. to install the device, while 1% is automatically rebooted. I also want to install the self-RADIO reboot is 7%.
As far as I understand with; device when large files at 1% at small-sized files when closing at 7% has been reopened
devicereset, Hard-SPL, Treo750_OS5_2_19199WWE_STD, Original 1.16RWE.nbh, Treo750_2_23_ROW_DE_DesktopUpdater, completefixed, I tried almost everything, but the installation does not do..
I need this device too. I am electronics technician. Heard called JTAG recovery method.
Luckily the apology, that I am open for any ideas. but you'll help me. Tek Tek at a descriptive writer, you'll be happy. I trust you. As of this minute to thank every one, wish to express my respect and greetings

Based on your bootloader screen you have not successfully HardSPL'd your Treo. You need to do that first, and then flashing ROMs with the SD card is possible. You can't flash a ROM using the SD card without doing this.
You also can't downgrade a ROM using the regular installation packages because the install package will see the current ROM (if I understand you correctly, WM6.5) is a newer ROM than what you are trying to install. I think I remember seeing a post someplace where you can edit one of the files in the installer package to get it to work, but you would have to search to find it and even so, it's probably much more difficult to do than just doing the Hard SPL.