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new to the board: tmo mda

Hey all, just recently purchased my tmo mda. Did some minor tweaks and it's running great. Just one question though. I recently installed wifi companion for the test trial. It worked really well, but decided to wait on the purchase and uninstalled the prog. Weird thing is, the wifi companion still works after the uninstall... Is there a way to clean uninstall? I did it through remove prog in settings.
Thnx
R

Hello chormda.
Welcome to the forum!
Unfortunately 'remove programs' is the only official way to uninstall something on a PPC. There are several utilities that do a better job but they need to be installed before you install the program so they can monitor the installation and record the changes.
Was wifi companion running when you tried to uninstall it? That might have prevented the system from deleting some files.
To my knowledge you now have two choices:
1. Manually fined all files still on the device and delete them (they could be under windows, windows\startup, or in program files\AppName.
You should also get a registry editor, search for any keys containing the app name and delete them.
2. Never tried it but it should work: reinstall the app, make sure its not running then uninstall again. If the files were not deleted because they were in use the first time this should solve the problem.
There is a third option but its quite inconvenient: Back up your data and hard reset the device. Its guaranteed to get reed of everything. :wink:
Good luck!

Kaiser and WM5torage

Hey guys,
This seems to come up a lot in just about every new ROM thread at one point or another so I just thought I'd throw it out there how I have got wm5torage to work on EVERY ROM I have tried (and I've tried just about all of them discounting the most recent ones as I haven't flashed in a while).
Basically all I have had to do to get it working is install Card Export II. You don't have to ever open it but I believe it comes with a driver update or something (don't ask me, maybe one of the cooks knows for sure) that makes the mass storage mode work on the Kaiser. Then just leave Card Export II on the device and use WM5torage as if Card Export wasn't there. Works like a charm every time, at least in my experience.
Hopefully I'm not double posting this and can help a few people out with this.

now this is good news now I will expiriment with this
my guess is that I only have to add ce2.dll and ce2ui.dll to windows folder and wm5torage should work I'll test it right away

I gave this a try. I copied ce2.dll and ce2ui.dll to \windows and then installed WM5Storage. After a soft-reset, I activated the link and connected my Tilt. My PC detected it as a USB mass storage and went through the installation process, but, then, after that my PC was unbearably slow until I deactivated the link. Same thing happened on my second try.

I made a cab form wm5torage with the dll's from Card Export I havn't tried the cab but it's working when I cooked it into my rom as a oem pack
try it an let me know if it works
Code:
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isn't working working for me... Installed - tried to start it - locked up my phone - soft reset - said it was going to install card export - 'failed to install' then 'sucessfully installed' - still no wm5 storage, it just locks up my phone - gullum rom

I just tried the cab and report the same stuff. It froze when activating wm5torage.

ok then it must be coocked into the rom

Calaelen313 said:
Hey guys,
This seems to come up a lot in just about every new ROM thread at one point or another so I just thought I'd throw it out there how I have got wm5torage to work on EVERY ROM I have tried (and I've tried just about all of them discounting the most recent ones as I haven't flashed in a while).
Basically all I have had to do to get it working is install Card Export II. You don't have to ever open it but I believe it comes with a driver update or something (don't ask me, maybe one of the cooks knows for sure) that makes the mass storage mode work on the Kaiser. Then just leave Card Export II on the device and use WM5torage as if Card Export wasn't there. Works like a charm every time, at least in my experience.
Hopefully I'm not double posting this and can help a few people out with this.
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I do the samething...but has anyone tried to see if it still works after the trial period expires...the reason why I haven't tried that is because i'm always reflashing my device almost every other week and never had the trial version expire since I always re-install from scratch...

c'mon guys, why are you opening the same issue? why don't you better search!? it has been already solved, we know, that WM5torage is working when CE2 is installed.. also know, that MW5torage will work, when CE2 trial is expired. as far, as i tested - CE2 NEEDS to be installed to have WM5 working - you can not just copy files into windows. it will not work (at least on kaiser)!

Hey, I apologized in the first post in the event that I was double posting a solution. I did do a search before posting it but posted for two reasons:
1. When I did search I did not find this particular solution (upon a second search I did find it but I had to read through a thread a bit before I got to it).
2. As mentioned in my first paragraph, this issue is CONSTANTLY coming back up, be it in the form of a new thread or in the form of 40+ people spamming up a perfectly good release thread with "WM5torage doesn't work, has anyone else got it to work!!!!!" making it harder to find legitimate information about a new ROM release.
I understand that the forums are getting increasingly cluttered with unnecessary threads/posts, but please refrain from "Use the search tool!" posts and thereby adding to the clutter. Yes, we all know by now that the search tool is available. No, we don't always find what we're looking for when we use it, especially when our answers are on page 43 of the thread (no, mine wasn't in this case but we've all been in that situation). If you really want to help with this issue, submit a link to the post that has the solution. If you don't have time to do that, great, send a PM to the person who opened the thread and let them know that the issue has been solved previously and they can direct people to the right thread. Otherwise, just let the thread die as it will inevitably do if it is not necessary.
Sorry again for adding to the mess.

Sorry, but I just tried that (Official HTC rom, installed WM5torage, soft-reset, installed cardexport II, soft reset), but still not working
It is working with cardExport II, so I would guess that WM5torage is not using the right dlls
Somebody mentionned that already and was telling that it must be on a cooked rom ?? Which rom would allow that ?

don't know how to get it working. I spent a while trying to get it to work, and then I just gave up. I could never get it to work at all. I have CardExport working in trial mode, but I didn't want to pay for it. Its best just to move on from this unless you find a rom with it built in already...which I never have found. ROMeOS was going to try to do it once, but that project has been discontinued.
Jason

Removing programs from the phone

The problem I'm having is that when I go to settings > system > remove programs, it only lists the first 11 programs that I've installed myself, so I cant see / remove newer programs since they are not listed there.
The programs (all cab files) were installed through usb via active sync.
Is there a tweak or a registry setting that can be used to keep that program list updated and show every program installed.
If not, how can I uninstall a program completely from within my phone itself ?
I'm trying to avoid uninstalls through active sync.

I wish I had an answer for you. I have been looking for an Installation Monitor, Registry Monitor, Filesystem Monitor tool for a long time now but I don't think there is one out there. What an Installation Monitor essentially would do is monitor any cab that you install and create a log of what that cab added/modified. That way, when you come to uninstall it you could perform a FULL uninstall and it would truely bring your device back to what it was before you installed the cab.
There are many of these types of tools for Windows XP/Vista but I haven't seen anything for WM6. Also there may be some limitations as these installation logs could be quite long. Regular Windows software such as "Advanced Uninstaller Pro" and they seem to do a good job.
I wish there was one for WM6 because everytime I install something and don't like it and remove it, it seems to leave hundreds of files lying around. I hate that...
The closest thing I have seen to an uninstaller program that goes beyond the standard Windows uninstaller is SKTools. It has an option to perform a "deep scan" for installed programs and it attempts to remove all files that that cab added and revert all registry keys back to their original state. I am still testing it out on Windows Mobile Emulator. It looks like if the original cab didn't create an installation log, WM doesn't know it got installed.

I just experienced this for the first time myself, although I have about 20 programs in my remove programs list. Opera 8.65 doesn't show up in the list of installed programs, even though it is there and still works. I was trying to uninstall it from main memory and try it on the storage card but I guess I'll have to hard reset to really get rid of it. Any other ideas?

New Wizard User Seeking Quick Guidance

I just got my first pocket pc in the mail yesterday. First off, I absolutely love it. I got the wizard - it was a very good price on ebay for the features, even if it is a couple years old (I think?). Regardless, it's a huge upgrade from a standard cell phone for a small price.
I've never used one before nor used windows mobile. It came with WM5 and I've managed to unlock and update it to WM6. I read somewhere that TNT.1437 was a stable release, so I installed TNT.1437 with TouchFlo. It seems fine, except I still get clocknot.exe notification every time I start (even after disabling auto update for time).
My main question is this - is TNT.1437 still a good release or is it getting old? If I remember correctly the thread hadn't had posts in a while. Is the newer TNT release near the top of the forum stable?
I am mainly looking for a stable release that won't mess up my calls. Even WM5 had huge improvements and features over my basic phone I had, so having the 'newest' software isn't really needed (although I don't mind it if it's stable).
Anyways, I'm just wondering if I should stick with 1437 or upgrade to something else before I start diving into it and installing my own apps and setting the phone up. If I do stick with it (or upgrade and still have the issue), is there a way to get rid of that clocknot.exe notification besides turning auto-update for time off, which doesn't seem to have worked? I also installed the trial version of memmaid as that was recommended in the same thread, it didn't find any notification issues.
Thanks in advance.

1st thing to remember is that it's not a smartphone. it's a pocket pc. Smartphone apps won't work on this (most at least) and vice versa although there are a few.
Smartphone's don't have touch screens.

My Experience
Here's the thread containing the latest TNT ROM and a lot of info on it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=367534
I'm using v1 of the last build and am having lockups on occation when the PDA is in standby. That said a lot of the posts indicate that sometimes you have to flash a rom several times or downgrade to a stock rom first before weird things go away. There was another post that suggested doing a soft reset followed by a hard reset after each rom is loaded to avoid rom instability problems. Also there was another post I read that said stability problems can be solved by using a specific utility (sorry name excapes me)that backs up the rom you just installed to your memory card and then reloading it from the memory card. None of this makes sense but I'm going to try these things if I can't get my lockup problem to go away with the latest build of TNT.
As for the notifications problem I fixed my through trial and error. Appearently there is a notifications queue or database that gets all screwed up. There are many tools out there (I used one called CheckNotifications) that let you fix the queue but in doing so you may break activesync and other automation. If found an app (FixASRunAt) that puts the neccessary entries back. I don't recall my exact procces for getting it working right but I do recall it took several passes at using both apps.
Good luck with your upgrade!

Welcome, I've had my wizard for two years flashed 5 or 6 roms, "its right" make good stable rom packed with useful software. I would suggest you read lots about any rom you install as if there are any problems its reported and usually fixed in rom thread.
If I might suggest Jaguar 4.0 rom, it is very stable and only a few programs leaving lots of space for you to test and add programs of your choice, you will want to try different programs. Some you stick with others will not be of use to you, the fun is in trying new things.
If you feel a little braver try the rom in my signature, I've had a few teething troubles but nothing major, anyway I can always change back.
Keep operator settings and instructions to hand, to make it easier when flashing, I also keep a list of installed apps so it is easier next time to remember what I use most often.
Finally welcome, there's now turning back now, it's addictive you know!

It most certainly is addictive.
Thanks for the tips thus far. I have one major question left - seeing as how there are so many ROMS out there, should I ever want to change to another one due to problems with the current one, or just to experience it, is there an easy way to keep program data and settings saved? There are certain third party programs that I would like to keep on the unit regardless of which ROM is running, so I'd like to be able to simply install them again and restore them to the state they were at with the previous ROM. I'm not sure how WM software works.
So far with TNT.1437 installed, I've just had a few problems, some of which may simply be the fact I'm new to WM and don't know what I am doing. It froze once or twice but that was it. It tends to run fine. The biggest issue I am wrestling with now is wifi connection. It always attempts to connect to previous wifi signals even when I am in a different location. If it would work as a laptop does (connect to a NEARBY wifi signal that you have provided a key for) then that would be great. But it keeps trying to connect to the campus network when I'm at my apartment, so I have to manually go in and figure out how to stop that and get it to connect to the apartment one here (out of like 10 options, which I only use one). Then I go to campus and I have the same issue and have to go in and make adjustments again. However, this is probably a WM issue and not a ROM problem.

As far as saving data or settings, I usually either back up the appropriate files to storage card or install to Storage card and just reinstall after hard reset. I don't think any back up utilities work if you change roms, but I'm sure some one will prove me wrong.
As for your second problem, I didn't even know it was one, so can't help you. Although thinking about it I've seen a program for assigning profiles to wifi connections or something along those lines, which is just what your looking for. Do a search. If I come across it will post a link for you.

Ixtana_ran said:
As far as saving data or settings, I usually either back up the appropriate files to storage card or install to Storage card and just reinstall after hard reset. I don't think any back up utilities work if you change roms, but I'm sure some one will prove me wrong.
As for your second problem, I didn't even know it was one, so can't help you. Although thinking about it I've seen a program for assigning profiles to wifi connections or something along those lines, which is just what your looking for. Do a search. If I come across it will post a link for you.
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Installing to a storage card seems like a good idea. When you install to a storage card, does it install the App there as well as data for the app? Do you even get a choice of where to do the install? Some files run as .exe on the desktop and then automatically install on the wizard. Others I have encountered have you copy a .cab file to the wizard and then just open it. Would you simply put the .cab file on the storage card and open from there? Is there a way to install via .exe to storage card?
I have a bunch of microSD cards around, so I'm waiting on a miniSD adapter to come in so I can actually use them with this phone. It will probably be easier to figure out once I have the adapter.

wow. ive had my wizard 5 months im still having problems understanding what i read about geting wm6 and touchflo. you experiance with do things allready?

Doesn't matter where you install from, when you get a storage card in, you are given a choice:- device or storage card.
Some don't like storage cards and after go on device memory, i.e. today plug ins. but its not written in stone, trial and error.

Thanks for all the help. It's a lot clearer than it was a few days ago now that I've played with installing some more.
My final question is this: I've learned how to install ROMS and search these forums for them (although I'm not sure on what each has to offer, as that will take some time). However, people mention when switching ROMs for whatever reason, the best thing to do is install an original ROM first, and then go on to whatever you want to install.
Where can I find the original ROMs for WM6? I've looked in the forums and did a search but didn't seem to come up with anything.
Would an original WM6 ROM work? Or would I need to flash back to a Cingular one with WM5 like it had when I first got it?
Anyways, just wondering about this. I imagine I just do it the same way I flashed the TNT ROM, but need to get a copy of the original ROM saved for future use.
Thanks.

Superman859 said:
Thanks for all the help. It's a lot clearer than it was a few days ago now that I've played with installing some more.
My final question is this: I've learned how to install ROMS and search these forums for them (although I'm not sure on what each has to offer, as that will take some time). However, people mention when switching ROMs for whatever reason, the best thing to do is install an original ROM first, and then go on to whatever you want to install.
Where can I find the original ROMs for WM6? I've looked in the forums and did a search but didn't seem to come up with anything.
Would an original WM6 ROM work? Or would I need to flash back to a Cingular one with WM5 like it had when I first got it?
Anyways, just wondering about this. I imagine I just do it the same way I flashed the TNT ROM, but need to get a copy of the original ROM saved for future use.
Thanks.
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Although the wizard was tested my MS with wm6, it was never released as stock. For stability, always flash your carrier rom before a new rom (wm5... you can get it at htc)
Octavio's roms have been the most stable for me. 6.3 with wm6.1 works great. Also check out www.pointui.com for another type of touch interface. I think you would like it.
Oh... and don't become like us. I flash the rom now more then i use it. Dang things addictive.

Alright. When you say I can get it from HTC, are you referring to this URL?
HTC Download
I just want to make sure I am saving the correct version to revert back to in between ROMS. The site doesn't really provide much description about what it is.
Edit: I tried to install the ROM from the URL above, but it gave an error and said I need a newer update utility. Not sure why...Anyways...Can anyone provide a link to where I can find the original ROM I should flash to between other ROMs? If it makes a difference, I have Cingular (AT&T) - originally had WM5 now it has TNT.1437 (WM6) and I went through steps for hardSPL if that makes a difference (IPL 2.21.0001 SPL 2.21.01ip) as seen on the wiki. Phone is a G4 and works fine other than a few bugs / freezes up on ocassion, but I'd like to try other ROMs
EDIT: The ROM above did work, but I had to remove the HardSPL I had added earlier. That must've been the problem. After removing it, I installed stock ROM without any trouble - time to try a new ROM!

Missing file errors.

Whenever my phone wakes up from a sleep or I end a phone call, three error messages pop up saying that I'm missing three different files.
Yesterday, I installed some weather apps to try out, but I forgot to backup my regs. So when I uninstalled them, they must not have cleaned up too well and still try to run!
Three errors are:
Cannot execute \program files\Outerdepth\KPWeather\KPWeather.exe
Cannot execute \program files\nrg\chomeminiweather\weather.exe
Cannot execute \program files\nrg\chomeminiweather\monitor.exe
I searched the registry and found some registry entries in the Mort process key. Deleted those. Error still persists.
There is nothing in startup like these. No program files to look for because the folders aren't there.
I just want my phone to go back to normal. Preferably without hard reset.
Please help this fool. :'(
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Forgot to say, I'm using a Samsung Omnia i910. Upgraded to compact.net framework 3.5, if that is relevant.

Perhaps this would be more appropriate in each packages
thread?
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Please refer to these links respectively
NRG Miniweather App: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3582908&postcount=792
Outerdepth Weather App: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3582982&postcount=132

Done with it.
I just decided that it was better to hard reset the phone. The trouble and hours I spent on this weren't worth it, and I just wanted to get back to enjoying my phone.
Maybe these posts will get some sort of exposure and have the problem solved so the next person can find it.

I went the same route and hard reset the phone as well. Oh well!

try reinstalling them and then uninstalling them using SKTools

oh.. and then perform a cleanup using SKTools

still..
.. after using SKtools on a Polaris (uninstall, cleaning up, in normal and safe mode, you name it) I still get the same annoying message.
is there any solution to this?
thanx
alex.

That annoys me totaly. SKTools don't fix the problem. I only could fix it with a dummy exe file. But don't have tested it. It would be nice if the coder of
NRG Mini Chome Weather 1.2.1 + Monitor BJ Version.cab
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gives us more informations how to uninstall completly.
Never saw an app like that. No registry key, no startup files, but annoying error messages.