Xda Orbit2 with Voice Command - Touch Cruise General

I have an Xda Orbit 2 (aka Polaris aka Touch Cruise) with MS voice Command 1.6 patched as per the instructions given at the link below in order to make incoming call announcements work.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1548114&postcount=5
The above fix worked fine on my original Orbit (Mark 1) apart from the fact that incomimg hotmail emails are not announced. When I upgraded to the Orbit 2, I again installed the same patch and it worked again (minus hotmail announcements again) BUT with one additional issue: The blue Bluetooth LED never comes on. I can soft reset, power off and on again, turn Bluetooth off and on but nothing makes any difference. The lamp stays off. However Bluetooth works fine - I can transfer files to and from my PC and my Bluetooth headset works.
The practical issue is if for some reason for example a transfer fails or the headset has problems, I can't tell if Bluetooth has turned itself off or is still on without going into Comm Manager. If I'm driving and trying to use the headset I have to stop the car just to do this!
Today I did a hard reset. The Bluetooth light worked fine until I reinstalled Voice Command.
Does anyone know of a fix for this? A registry entry to change maybe?
Thanks in anticipation.

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JABRA Oddities

Ok, I have a BT200 that is working very quirkly with my i-mate. Sometimes the phone transfers the call to the headset, sometimes it doesn't. After deleting and recreating the bond, it works, but not for long. Anyone have one of these setup and working properly? Is there a trick to it?
Also, does anyone know if other headset drivers exist that may work on the i-mate that would allow you to hear all audio (not just phone) through a bluetooth earpiece?
Figured it out?
Ok, I've finally pinpointed that it works fine until I turn off the jabra headset, then when I turn it back on, I have to go through the entire thing again of re-creating the bond, etc..
Anyone know how to avoid having to recreate this everytime I turn the headset on or off?
I don't now ... but i have also jaba 200 and the MDA II is must arrive...
well please chip us informed
Thanks
DenisJ
I have the same combination and have also observed the same hassles.
It seems to work when I turn the BT headset function on the MDA off and on also. Thsi seems to result in a rebond.
Exact Steps
TBD,
If you could post the exact order of the steps you take to turn on / off the headset, I'd appreciate it. Right now, I'm doing the following:
1. Finish BT Headset Call.
2. Disable Bluetooth Headset Mode on Phone.
3. Disable Bluetooth on the phone.
4. Hold button on JABRA to turn it off.
Then, attempting to...
1. Hold button on JABRA to turn it on.
2. Enable Bluetooth on the phone (Set to "On" or "Discoverable")
3. Enable Bluetooth Headset Mode on phone.
4. Attempt to make call.
So if you could posts steps like that, i'd appreciate it. Also, do you set your bluetooth to "On" or "Discoverable"? Do you ever turn off the Bluetooth Radio completely?
Thanks,
Jon.
Yup me an all. I too have the Jabra BT200 and have the same problem. Providing you don't switch off the headset or go out of range your ok, but for instance when you leave the headset in the car and take the XDA2 with you you have to create a new bond to use it again. AHHHHHHHHH!!!
Shame cos so much else has been sorted on it.....and more. What a piece of kit!!
SOMEBODY HELP!!!
OK, so here is the sequence, which seems to work (for me).
1) I set everything up as per instruction. creating the bond between the Jabra and the MDA II.
2) Before (or after) I turn off the Jabra I disable the BT-Headset on the Today-screen.
3) Then I turn the Jabra on again and wait several seconds before enabling the BT Headset on the MDA II.
This seems to work most of the time, though the hint regarding going out of distance might explain the instabilities I have still observed. In any case, using the BT-Headset ON/Off on the Today-screen seems to resync things most of the time and get the Jabra up and running again.
Hope this helps and always open for new ideas
I have been a bit impatient after turning the BT headset on. I'll try it and let you guys know.
I may have been a bit optomistic. :roll:
Today I observed that sometimes the Headset reacts very late. Consequently you miss half of the call. Seems to be an XDA problem.
As for my XDA II with Sony Ericsson HBH-65, after creating the bond, before i turn off the BT headset, i turn off BT profile and BT on my PDA, then turn off the Headset.
If i want to turn on the headset, i activate BT on my PDA, then BT profile, the the headset. Sometimes in teh day headset seem to lose the bond and cannot use the BT to call or whatever. I tried turning on/off BT on my PDA, did not work. Turn on/off headset, it worked. So for me most of the time is my headset causing the problems
i am having the same problem with the new moto bluetooth headset although i have experienced no problemzs with the se hbh-30 bluetooth headset....i can turn off and transfer calls without any impact on teh bonding
Jabra problems
I've had similar problems on a boring old Nokia 6310 with my BT200. In the end, all I could do was find the 'automaticly reconnect' option on the Nokia. during calls, the link is allways fine, but between calls, when I guess one end or the other goes to sleep, the link will drop out, and then instantly reconnect. This happens around 2 or 3 times an hour.
Is there a 'automaticly reconnect' option on your XDA?
All the best
James
OK, I finally sacked my Jabra 200, because of its instability. What use is a headset, that doesn't repond when a call comes in? :evil:
I bought a B-Speech from B-Data yesterday and it seems to be working much better :lol: .
Nokia HS-3w headset with XDA II
Well! I am using the Nokia HS-3W Bluetooth Headset with my XDA II . I can pair up two devices and use it for only ten minutes :twisted: . After that, the headset will off(goes to sleep) . I Have to turn on the headset every ten minutes. I ask the dealer about the problem. They told me this headset work fine with Nokia's phone. They told me , there is three color on the light. Red light will flash when you turn off the headset. Green Light will flash when you turn on the headset up to ten minutes, if cann't find the phone devices , it will goes off.White light will flash, when the headset connected to the phone. When I turn on the headset, I just can see the green light only.But, if someone call me or I make a call ,the white light will flash.After the that the headset will flash the green light again for about ten minutes and goes off. Can anyone help me with this problem? Thanks!
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Hi, I will like to ask how your headset B-Speech is working.
It works 100%?
I have a jabra 250 with the same problems as BT200
Please let me know
Regards
JoseF
The B-Speech Headset is working OK, however it doesn't solve the problems with the Microsoft BT-stack.
Some observations, probably also applicable to the Jabra:
:?: When you go out of range with the headset, it will probably not reconnect automatically (but how do you know)
:x On an incoming call, the XDA may be very slow in activating the headset, so you might miss the call (seems to be tied into what the XDA s/w is just doing at the time
When you turn the Headset off, make sure to turn it off on the Today screen first. And when you turn them on, make sure to wait about 2 sec. after you turn the headset on before turning it on on the Today screen.
:idea: What seems to work best, is turning that Headset off and then on again on the Today screen. It usually comes back after that.
Mind you, it isn't the headset thats causing these problems. Its just that Microsoft botched the Bluetooth stack - probably the programmers had blue teeth from all the wine they were drinking!
I've found the out of range issue to be mute on my jabra 200. The only time the bond is broken is when the headset has been turned off. Or sometimes when it has been on charge.....
Strange........I use the Jabra BT 250 with the MDA II and have non of these reconnection problems. I f I turn it on and place a call (or receive) it reacts immediately.
However, I cannot use the advanced Headset Profile features of the Jabra with the MDA, but this is not the fault of the Jabra........
Could the people who are having problems and the people who are not having problems with their Jabra BT200's please post their version numbers of the Jabra BT200. You can find the version number on the boom going to the microphone. It will be 2 numbers and a letter, like 48A or something like that. I'm testing a theory that I think will help identify why some people work and some don't.
Thanks,
LouisK
Ok, the number on my Jabra Bt 250 is 44B.

Problems with Plantronics M3000 and QTEK 2020

I have bought a Plantronics M3000 bluetooth headset for my QTEK 2020. I have no problems pairing, calling and answering. However the headset just shuts off after a few minutes of conversation. It doesn't just cut the conversation but shuts off. I can make multiple short calls but nothing longer than 3/4 minutes. It works, however, without problems on my wife's Ericsson T68. Anyone can help ? Thanks.
Marek
Hello,
I have the MDA2 (same as QTek2020) and a Plantronics M3000 and It's been working just fine.
The problem you describe it's very weird since you mentioned that the headset works fine with your wife's mobile, and that makes me think that your QTek has some sort of problem with the Bluetooth stack or hardware.
It may be well worth to try (if possible) another headset just to make sure that is not the M3000 fault.
Do you see any type of error or message on the screen at the time of disconnection?
Does it always cut the conversation at the exact same moment?
Does the problem match the time the QTek takes to power save?
Any other clues?
Thanks.
I did not have the occasion to test another BT headset on the Qtek. When it shuts down there isn't any message displayed.
I have no problems with the BT stack (with the Pocket Bluetooth Tools patch) when using it with a BT GPS (Emtac) receiver, it works for hours.
However, your suggestion that it might happen when the Qtek goes in energy saving mode is interesting. I will check that tomorrow.
I'll post the result.
Hi
I seem to have a similar poblem after installing pocket bluetooth tools!.
I use a Jabra BT 250..and I noticed that the headset just mutes during the call..
I am generally used to switching off the display of the XDA after placing the call to power save ...
So I discovered that the headset would mute whenever i switch off the xda after making the call (which it never did prior to installing PBT)!
any thoughts on that?
maybe it has to do with the auto switch off plugin?
Actually I just experienced that too...
If I place (or answer a call) the next time I try to use the phone via the BT headset I notice the BT headset was turned off... Yeah, it could be related to the Powersave feature on the today plugin that PBT installs as a plugin... :roll:
Need to investigate...
Best regards,
Rayan
Both my bt headsets have stopped working since installing pocket bluetooth tools latest version, I have reverted back to version 1005 and everything is fine. I have a sony-ericsson EBH-65 and a skypower clip on headset.
my platronics does the same also its annoying you cant even transfer the call back to the device you have to hand up turn off bt and then turn it abck on and headset mode back on it also does the same on my pc
when im on msn using it as a headset it just d/c and i have to turn it off and turn it back on again
dont see what the problem is
btw the range on the xda2 and platronics is amazing i had it on my bedrooms desk and i went outside it passed through the living room wall and the patio window and i was stood 5m down my garden im sure it would of been over 10m and it was still working if i kept still when i moved it went crackly but ah well lol
just hope someone sorts the prob out
Hi,
I was having the same problem with the M3000. I just had confirmation from Plantronics that this problem is a bug in the product that occurs with the XDA II. I am currently in the process of returning the product.
Regards...Mike
Same problem M3000 doesn't work. Give up now before too much frustration makes you feel ill.
Try the Hello 2 headset. Work with my Aussie XDA2 and is very small and lightweight. Even had a neck chain to carry it around like a USB drive.

Voice Command via Bluetooth

Did anyone manage it to run MS VoiceCommand via a bluetooth headset on this device?
Ok, I installed the latest version of voice command on the new O2 XDA Orbit 2.
It works good with the bluetooth headset without any patches.
However call notification does not work. Does anyone have any idea for that?
How can I disable Voice Command and make all sound being routed to the headset?
The solution with Mortscript (posted somewhere else in this forum) does not work... any other idea?
ulischultz, how did you manage to get ms voice command to work? I've got the HTC Touch Cruise, and I can't get MSVC to work via bluetooth. Works fine on my AT&T tilt with no hacks.
Dave
I am having the exact same problem: voice command works but will not announce incomming calls. I can't believe how much I've become dependent upon this feature. As for getting it to work, there was nothing special that I had to do other than install it and soft boot.
http://www.jetwaremobile.com/
I was having problems with some random disconnects of my TC from the car Parrot 3200LS BT Handsfree CarSystem.
I found this program mentioned on another site(http://www.htcwizardweb.net/node/456 ):
JETware Mobile (http://www.jetwaremobile.com/
I installed the trial today and so far it appears to be making a significant difference with the TC and MS VoiceCommand.
T

Voice Command 1.6 Cab for Treo 750?

Hey there, I'm running Treo750 Unofficial WM6.1 OS5.2.19199 build 19199.1.0.0 - Standard OEM Version, which doesn't have Voice command included.
I was wondering where I might be able to find a cab file that installs Voice command 1.6 for WM6.1 on my 750. Would anybody be able to point me in the right direction?
just search the whole forum not the cab. The cab is for all Windows Mobile phones not just one particular for the Treo 750
found it, thanks, works like a charm.
are you able to voice dial with a bluetooth headset using VC and 6.1 ??
jcrompton said:
are you able to voice dial with a bluetooth headset using VC and 6.1 ??
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If you have the 19209 build, that shouldn't be a problem.
kareem9nba said:
If you have the 19209 build, that shouldn't be a problem.
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I am using build 19209 of MSVC with WM6.1. When I fresh install MSVC, I can voice dial through my headset, hear the prompts in my headset, etc, just like normal WM6 on my Treo 750. Once I soft reset, it goes back to sounding the prompts through my phone speaker, not accepting voice commands through the headset, etc. It does transfer the calls to the BT headset, but still not functioning properly.
Also, possibly related to this problem, my carrier line's BT icon does not indicate if my BT headset is connected (stays blue, not white). It toggles for on/off (grey to blue), but not connected (white). With MSVC uninstalled or a fresh install before a soft reset, it works just like it had with WM6.
Any ideas folks?
I have tried various reg edits that claim to solve the problem (ie. HKLM\Software\MS\Bluetooth\AudioGateway) and hacks for other phones, but nothing seems to set it right.
peeps said:
I am using build 19209 of MSVC with WM6.1. When I fresh install MSVC, I can voice dial through my headset, hear the prompts in my headset, etc, just like normal WM6 on my Treo 750. Once I soft reset, it goes back to sounding the prompts through my phone speaker, not accepting voice commands through the headset, etc. It does transfer the calls to the BT headset, but still not functioning properly.
Also, possibly related to this problem, my carrier line's BT icon does not indicate if my BT headset is connected (stays blue, not white). It toggles for on/off (grey to blue), but not connected (white). With MSVC uninstalled or a fresh install before a soft reset, it works just like it had with WM6.
Any ideas folks?
I have tried various reg edits that claim to solve the problem (ie. HKLM\Software\MS\Bluetooth\AudioGateway) and hacks for other phones, but nothing seems to set it right.
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bump....anyone???
peeps said:
I am using build 19209 of MSVC with WM6.1. When I fresh install MSVC, I can voice dial through my headset, hear the prompts in my headset, etc, just like normal WM6 on my Treo 750. Once I soft reset, it goes back to sounding the prompts through my phone speaker, not accepting voice commands through the headset, etc. It does transfer the calls to the BT headset, but still not functioning properly.
Also, possibly related to this problem, my carrier line's BT icon does not indicate if my BT headset is connected (stays blue, not white). It toggles for on/off (grey to blue), but not connected (white). With MSVC uninstalled or a fresh install before a soft reset, it works just like it had with WM6.
Any ideas folks?
I have tried various reg edits that claim to solve the problem (ie. HKLM\Software\MS\Bluetooth\AudioGateway) and hacks for other phones, but nothing seems to set it right.
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double bump...
Search for 'jabra bt registry' on this forum. I found a registry hack, that says this:
When VC 1.6 gets itself installed, it modifies the following registry key from:
FROM: (Original Registry without VC1.6)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Au dioGateway:BTAGExtModule = BTAGExt.dll
TO: (with VC1.6 installed)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Au dioGateway:BTAGExtModule
=\Program Files\Voice Command\vcbthag.dll
When I have set this registry back to BTAGExt.dll ( I have used CEregedit to make the replacement) my Jabra BT Headset was able to listen and deliver Voice Commands to the device and viceversa the device was able to deliver messages and notifications to the BT headset.
Simply make the registry change and soft-reset the phone, and you are back in business.

Bluetooth turns off randomly

Hi,
I am using my HTC Touch Pro with an Opel Vectra built-in bluetooth carkit.
All functions, like browsing the address book and call registers, are working fine. However, at random times, my carkit reports no phone. When I then check my Touch Pro's bluetooth status, I see that it is has been disabled.
After manually re-enabling it, I can pair with my carkit for as long as it takes for bluetooth to turn itselves off again.
I've already tested with JETware, but that does not change anything. Also tried the universal broadcom bluetooth stack, but doesn't seem to work on the Touch Pro. HTC only comes with a standard answer that they don't support all carkits and headsets... Since the BT stack on the phone seems to crash, I don't think it's a carkit issue.
Anyone here with the same issue? And maybe a solution?
Thanks and regards!!
Start -> Settings -> Connections -> Bluetooth -> Timeout (tab). Turn off Visible mode set to "Never".
I think this must be your problem.
Hi Freco,
Thanks for your reply! This option is set. However it's not really the visibility that turns to invisible, but the whole bluetooth stack is being turned off completely. Need to fully re-enable it via Comm Manager.
Any other options? Does anyone know if there is a working broadcomm stack for the Touch Pro?
Regards!
Hi,
I have exactly the same problem with a Vauxhall kit, I have tried all sorts of things, but nothing seems to work
try:
start -> settings -> connections -> bluetooth
timeout tab
select 'never' from drop down box
Hi Brendo,
Unfortunately this doesn't solve the issue. Once paired, the connection even works without being visible. It's also not a fixed period of time before the disconnect takes place (can be within a minute, sometimes after half an hour). However, the whole bluetooth icons disappears from the top icon bar and comm manager shows it's turned off completely.
Hope somebody has any other ideas, because the only thing HTC can do is point to the carkit vendor :-(. Since all functionality is there when connected and the phone is turning off BT in some way, I really don't think this is caused by the carkit vendor. I should at least expect BT to stay enabled on the phone.
Thanks!
Yes, same here, BTW I have tried this in my Friends Saab, and the same problem.
same problem here with a Opel DVD90 buildin bluetooth carkit.
With other htc phones it always worked like a charm, but my mda vario IV continuously disconnects after a random time period and shuts down the complete stack.
Try this!
I have the same problem with my opel with original bluetooth-kit (2007). On the touch pro I changed the band and network from auto to GSM, as G3 reseption in this area is quit poor, especialy while driving. It helped for me, at least the last few days. I agree this has been an annoying problem.
I have tried to switch to "GSM only mode" in the past, but as far as I remember it does not completely solve the issue. However, I will give it another shot! Actually I can't figure out at what point it occurs... It can happen within a minute or after half an hour without using any funtion.
Does one of you know if there is a way to do some debugging on the Bluetooth stack?
And has anyone experience with other Windows Mobile 6.1 based phones in this combination (just curious if it's a WM issue or HTC only)?
Furthermore I did some tests with JetWare. You should be able to limit the number of synchronised items then (might be related to this issue). However, it looks like this configured limit is being totally ignored: when I limit my recent call list to 5 with JetWare, it still syncs about 25 items. Anyone tested with Jetware?
I have tried the GSM only mode, this didn't help either
I have now given up and got myself a Nokia E66, which works perfectly.
All contacts are pushed to car, no disconnects and AD2P works so my mp3 ringtones play through the car speakers! Sweet
Word of note, I had issues with N-Series phones, would connect ok, but contacts would not push.
I have the samen problem with my HTC Touch Pro and Saab.
bluetooth pairs just fine with my pioneer bluetooth enabled deck, but the problem iwth mine is once i receive a call sometimes no sound comes from the car, instead the earpiece is still on. but if i initiate the call first sound works just fine and earpiece on the phone is disabled, BUT once the call is ended bluetooth disconnects randomly and the phone takes a good 1-2min to reconnect. i absolutely hate the bluetooth on this phone!
ExTREmE99 said:
bluetooth pairs just fine with my pioneer bluetooth enabled deck, but the problem iwth mine is once i receive a call sometimes no sound comes from the car, instead the earpiece is still on. but if i initiate the call first sound works just fine and earpiece on the phone is disabled, BUT once the call is ended bluetooth disconnects randomly and the phone takes a good 1-2min to reconnect. i absolutely hate the bluetooth on this phone!
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I am having the same problems you describe. Anyone got an suggestions???
I encountered the same problem; first with an opel udp carkit and next with the bluetooth interface software from homeseer.
It has something to do with phone signal loss.
With the opel carkit I noticed bluetooth automatically turns off when the phonesignal switched from 3g to gsm.
I also noticed that in my home, BT turns off whenever I have been in a room with no phone-signal reception.
try this thread, both registry change and attached cab file, reset. DOn't worry if the make visible to all option is unchecked.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-314996.html

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