Alex has not been releasing new cooking kits, but there are alot of new roms based on newer builds. Is anyone out there making new cooking kits? Or do we have to build from the ground up from the official roms? I'm interested in cooking a rom, but not sure where to get a new source of files (I've cooked a few based on some of Alex's cooking kits).
-Todd
first you need to know how to use whats already given to you by Alex then when you know how and what to do.. you can think of porthing other builds.
and no there is no need in a new kitchen for the new builds.
and people please read and search this forum before asking the last weeks there have been far to many cooking questions that could have been answered by looking in the sticky threads.
gullum said:
first you need to know how to use whats already given to you by Alex then when you know how and what to do.. you can think of porthing other builds.
and no there is no need in a new kitchen for the new builds.
and people please read and search this forum before asking the last weeks there have been far to many cooking questions that could have been answered by looking in the sticky threads.
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Maybe I didn't ask the right question. I'm not looking for a new kitchen, but a new cooking kit. I've noticed there's some newer OS builds out there. Have they been ported from other devices maybe? That's what I was wondering...... I've read the tutorials and watched the videos on dumping a rom, but wanted to get good at cooking before venturing out!
yes every build newer then 5.2.19212 is ported from other devices except from 213 & 214 witch are modified version of 212
If you search in forums for other models you find newer build that are made into cooking kits you anly need to change some things froms the oem folder to get them to work on kaiser and ofcause you need to port the xip too
Ok I know what you mean about a newer kitchen. I posted this in my other thread too what think needs to be implemented is the newer programs that are used in the kitchen.
1. BuildOS+package 4.b3 instead of v. 2
2. PackageTools is also newer.
I am just not sure how to change the .bat files or I would try this myself. DOn't get me wrong ALEX's kitchen is suitable but newer software is out there.
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yes every build newer then 5.2.19212 is ported from other devices except from 213 & 214 witch are modified version of 212
If you search in forums for other models you find newer build that are made into cooking kits you anly need to change some things froms the oem folder to get them to work on kaiser and ofcause you need to port the xip too
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Ok, that was my misunderstanding. So I guess I need to build from the 3.03 kit, which I'm going to guess is the 212 build. I built from the 3.02 kit because I read somewhere that the 3.03 was slower than 3.02 (think it was in one of dutty's threads). Thanks again.
-Todd
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I am a noob when it comes to porting a Rom and I need some advise on doing this, I got a new BUILD New OS: 5.2.1933 (Build 18533.0.7.0) WHICH I want to port to kaiser but tried ecerything I could read but no luck.
I just need a tutorial or some basic input of doing this, believe me I read all since morning and no luck thanks.
Its a hermes ported rom in chineese but the language is not the biggy.
Try this. I'm not sure where I got it other than it was posted in the wizard section months ago and it's supposed to be a porting tut. I've never gotten around to reading it though.
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Try this. I'm not sure where I got it other than it was posted in the wizard section months ago and it's supposed to be a porting tut. I've never gotten around to reading it though.
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Too technical for me I just need some basics on what to do.
at the moment i just need to extract a xip from one of th kaisers rom but no files shown when doing this. i think the tools are old as well for the kaiser
ive decided to try something new and try out hypercore kitchen but i needa base rom that isnt the stock T-Mobile ROM
can anyone give me a link to the newest version of 6.1?
thanks.
no one?
or is it just really late?
Your best bet is to use JustClean. If you really feel the need to use Hypercore, grab the SYS, OEM, and ROM folders from JustClean. Strip out the OEM packs you don't need and add the packs you want.
If you are feeling ambitious, try merging Hypercore with JustClean. Update the internals of Hypercore first though.
Use Hypercore for extraction and JustClean for builds.
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Use Hypercore for extraction and JustClean for builds.
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thats a good idea
but none of the roms now have the files for recooking so im stuck with bad oem packages.
i guess ill make my own packages
kidnamedAlbert said:
thats a good idea
but none of the roms now have the files for recooking so im stuck with bad oem packages.
i guess ill make my own packages
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There is no real wm6.1 for the herald. If your wanting to use hypercore, then port one over.
and how do i port one over?
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and how do i port one over?
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You can search the forum on how to port or you can use bepe kitchen which already has a striped down version of wm6.1.
If you use bepe kitchen, you must have a good working oem folder of your own.
Cooking takes time and most of the time is reading, testing, debuging, and simply learning.
Most of the cooks will tell you that it takes a lot of time.
Thats why I spend at least a month on one rom before even beta testing it.
Anybody can use a kitchen to produce a rom, but will it be your rom?
Ivannmj is one of my best friends on this forum and has creaeted a very good kitchen, but I think his kitchen was intended for people to created their own roms for personal use.
You can use his kitchen to create roms for others, but you will miss out on learning all of the steps in creating your own rom.
Also, I'm not trying to made anybody feel bad or tell people not to use ivannmj kitchen, I'm just trying to tell people that want to become cooks to spend time learning the entire process.
Just my two cents,
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You can search the forum on how to port or you can use bepe kitchen which already has a striped down version of wm6.1.
If you use bepe kitchen, you must have a good working oem folder of your own.
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well ive tried bepes kitchen but it didnt work for my so thats why im using hypercore now.
ttran001 said:
You can search the forum on how to port or you can use bepe kitchen which already has a striped down version of wm6.1.
If you use bepe kitchen, you must have a good working oem folder of your own.
Cooking takes time and most of the time is reading, testing, debuging, and simply learning.
Most of the cooks will tell you that it takes a lot of time.
Thats why I spend at least a month on one rom before even beta testing it.
Anybody can use a kitchen to produce a rom, but will it be your rom?
Ivannmj is one of my best friends on this forum and has creaeted a very good kitchen, but I think his kitchen was intended for people to created their own roms for personal use.
You can use his kitchen to create roms for others, but you will miss out on learning all of the steps in creating your own rom.
Also, I'm not trying to made anybody feel bad or tell people not to use ivannmj kitchen, I'm just trying to tell people that want to become cooks to spend time learning the entire process.
Just my two cents,
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Exactly! ^_^ That's why it was originally called EasyBakeOven. You're not really cooking. It's more like a customized version of my ROM.
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My name is Baron. I own a HTC P4350 PPC. I was wondering if there is any port of the Original WM 6.1 version for the Herald without any customizations. I have been trying different versions of each cook's 6.1 versions but I don't know. I like them but I guess I like things to be original lol. I really like the TouchFLO, its awesome. But if there is anyone who can help me out or even let me know how to aquire 6.1 and teach me how to port it would be nice. Maybe I can be a cook or something. But I guess that would need the help of all of you. I am familiar with flashing Heralds at the moment and of course last year I was flashing Motorolas with Motorola's custom OS not the ones with WM. Anyway thanks for your time and I hope I can be seen as a cook around here or something. Oh, don't forget about the original WM 6.1
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Hi,
My name is Baron. I own a HTC P4350 PPC. I was wondering if there is any port of the Original WM 6.1 version for the Herald without any customizations. I have been trying different versions of each cook's 6.1 versions but I don't know. I like them but I guess I like things to be original lol. I really like the TouchFLO, its awesome. But if there is anyone who can help me out or even let me know how to aquire 6.1 and teach me how to port it would be nice. Maybe I can be a cook or something. But I guess that would need the help of all of you. I am familiar with flashing Heralds at the moment and of course last year I was flashing Motorolas with Motorola's custom OS not the ones with WM. Anyway thanks for your time and I hope I can be seen as a cook around here or something. Oh, don't forget about the original WM 6.1
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There was never an original WM6.1 for the Herald. You'll have to cook your own ROM using a WM6.1 base and port it using a stock 6.0 Herald ROM without any kind of customizations except for a lot of the customizations needed to fix all the bugs that will arise from simply sticking both bases together. The original ROM tends to be slow and buggy, though... What about the original ROM do you like? There might already be a ROM that has those features.
Thanks for your fast response. I knew there was never a actual 6.1 release for the Herald, I was just wondering if anyone ported the original release to work with a Herald. But with what you said about it being buggy, I never thought about that but I guess that would make sense, but I have seen some custom ROMs with 6.1 and flashed them myself to see how it would work and these 6.1 versions were not bad at all, especially with TouchFLO. So I guess my question is, how were they able to cook a 6.1 version? They had to have picked up an original to modify it if I'm correct. As I said I would like to learn how to cook as well so if anyone has time to help me learn at least the basics that would be appreciated. I can learn more myself if I know the basics.
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Thanks for your fast response. I knew there was never a actual 6.1 release for the Herald, I was just wondering if anyone ported the original release to work with a Herald. But with what you said about it being buggy, I never thought about that but I guess that would make sense, but I have seen some custom ROMs with 6.1 and flashed them myself to see how it would work and these 6.1 versions were not bad at all, especially with TouchFLO. So I guess my question is, how were they able to cook a 6.1 version? They had to have picked up an original to modify it if I'm correct. As I said I would like to learn how to cook as well so if anyone has time to help me learn at least the basics that would be appreciated. I can learn more myself if I know the basics.
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I have a few threads dedicated to teaching how to cook. It's just the basics but it's enough to get you started.
Every 6.1 ROM here has been made by porting a 6.1 from another phone (there is no "original" per say as new versions are released all the time.) using the OEM of an original HERALD 6.0 ROM but modifying it heavily, making a custom XIP (kind of like the kernel and all the stuff related to it) from both the ported ROM and the older ROM, and then adding their own apps and tweaks.
In my case, I also do a heavy amount of stripping of useless files.
I'm kind of on the same page. I'd love to find an unmodified wm6.1. I've tried a couple of them, and they're all great, but they also have a bunch of stuff loaded in them or different versions of apps. I'd like to find a wm6.1 load that JUST has the org wm6.1 apps in it and nothing else. No mods, no alternative apps, skins, etc.
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I'd like to find a wm6.1 load that JUST has the org wm6.1 apps in it and nothing else. No mods, no alternative apps, skins, etc.
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then take an original WM6 and behappy with that...belive me ivansstripped wm6.1 ONLY have tweaks that are really useful...to correct the crappy MS waste....
If you do NOT wantto correct that crap...go with an original WM6...it the same
same here
I am also looking for this...
I am VERY new to cooking and have not been able to manage to Dump any of the 6.1 ROMs. (I must be missing something)
I would like to start with an "original" ROM that I can play with and try to build my own custom ROM
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I am also looking for this...
I am VERY new to cooking and have not been able to manage to Dump any of the 6.1 ROMs. (I must be missing something)
I would like to start with an "original" ROM that I can play with and try to build my own custom ROM
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I guess I'm having a hard time understanding what "original" means. If you just want something clean and stripped that you can add whatever you want into it, then any of my ROMs will do.
To ivanmmj
I guess by original I meant base 6.1 ROM but since there is not an official 6.1 base ROM for Herald I was just trying to figure out how the other cooks were able to get 6.1 in their releases so I could cook up my own 6.1 for me and possibly upload it for someone to test or use. But it's ok, you already answered that for me but maybe you can point me in the right direction. I've been hearing that a Kaiser 6.1 ROM is easy to port to the Herald. But let me know how you were able to port it. I read some of your tutorials and I'll definately give it a try as soon as I get the time. Possibly this Sunday or so.
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I guess by original I meant base 6.1 ROM but since there is not an official 6.1 base ROM for Herald I was just trying to figure out how the other cooks were able to get 6.1 in their releases so I could cook up my own 6.1 for me and possibly upload it for someone to test or use. But it's ok, you already answered that for me but maybe you can point me in the right direction. I've been hearing that a Kaiser 6.1 ROM is easy to port to the Herald. But let me know how you were able to port it. I read some of your tutorials and I'll definately give it a try as soon as I get the time. Possibly this Sunday or so.
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If you're looking for a bug free base, you might be better off just using one of my ROM as a base (since I tend to release the kitchen files for my ROMs.)
I have a post somewhere here about SYS and XIP porting. Find it and follow that. It works fine with kaiser ROMs.
Thanks! I don't know if I have tried your ROMs yet. I'll give it a go.
From what I have been able to gather (not very much) is that some ROM have their RGU files removed, making it imposible to Dump the ROM. When I try to open with the Package Tool nothing happens?
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Thanks! I don't know if I have tried your ROMs yet. I'll give it a go.
From what I have been able to gather (not very much) is that some ROM have their RGU files removed, making it imposible to Dump the ROM. When I try to open with the Package Tool nothing happens?
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Actually, some ROMs are even encrypted...
In my case, all my ROMs are released WITH the kitchen files in case you want to make your own version. All that I ask is that you mention where the base came from since the base took a long time to make.
I don't know if this is the right place for this post.... and forgive my ignorance again.
I just can't get the Kitchen to work with any 6.1 ROM. I have tried JustMe and I follow exactly the same steps as with the original ROM. I just can't get a poputated OEM or SYS folder. What am I missing?
Leapfrogg
leapfrogg said:
I don't know if this is the right place for this post.... and forgive my ignorance again.
I just can't get the Kitchen to work with any 6.1 ROM. I have tried JustMe and I follow exactly the same steps as with the original ROM. I just can't get a poputated OEM or SYS folder. What am I missing?
Leapfrogg
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Download the JustMe mini kitchen.
...Original rom?
There isnt a true original rom. Theres a base, which cannot be loaded on herald unless is ported with original 6.0 (which is ment for herald).
So. basically it looks like this:
Base 6.1 + Original 6.0 = herald 6.1
(original) (port)
you cant just use a base for a rom. you can port it, then extract what u want and dont want though (which theretically will turn yer ported 6.1 into an "original" one)
I managed to port a 6.1 rom following ivanmmj tutorial, quoted below.
" How to port a SYS folder
1. Open your old SYS folder and copy the .VM and WinCENLS_WWE folders into your new SYS folder
2. Go to your old SYS\Shell and copy shell32.exe and shellres.dll into your new SYS\Shell
3. Replace the old SYS folder with the new one. "
but I only did step 1 and did not do step 2. It worked and seems stable.
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I managed to port a 6.1 rom following ivanmmj tutorial, quoted below.
" How to port a SYS folder
1. Open your old SYS folder and copy the .VM and WinCENLS_WWE folders into your new SYS folder
2. Go to your old SYS\Shell and copy shell32.exe and shellres.dll into your new SYS\Shell
3. Replace the old SYS folder with the new one. "
but I only did step 1 and did not do step 2. It worked and seems stable.
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The Shell32.exe doesn't always have to be ported, but if you port a ROM that comes with a different dpi, you need to use your old shell32.dll (unless you want to manually convert it into the proper DPI...)
Can anyone tell me what the latest available build is of WM6.1 for the Kaiser and where to get the files, I am attempting to cook a rom and currently have Alex's v5 3.03 Base Files, are these the latest sys, etc ?
I did have a look around but not sure myself to be honest, so thought I may as well ask.
Obvisouly the latest build may not be the official one from HTC so if someone could let me know what the latest official is and latest unofficial and where to obtain the bits to use in my own cooked rom using the kaiser kitchen. I have already done a custom splash, and found and prepared the radio I am to be using, just need details on the rom before I spend time using outdated files it that's the case.
Much appreciated.
Do you want a ROM or the extracted packages? What are you looking for? I too would like the latest for my ROM cooking. I have a buddie at technet who can get me latest stuff but I dont think I am able to redistribute. Ill see though.
Either, I just want to make sure I cook using the latest build of 6.1 so it's as fast and stable as possible.
Hmm, Technet you say, how, I have a full Technet Account and you don't get Windows Mobile stuff on it.
Is it the paid one? My friend has copys of 6.5 from Microsoft even. It may be different hes been a member there for 10years..lol
Could be, yes it's a paid one, I'm a member of the Microsoft IP Pro Momentum group also, and we don;t't have access yet, lucky git he is. Does that mean there are actually official 6.5 builds up that are for the kaiser, or has he been hacking away at it for cheffing ?
Ill ask him for the rom. Will you be able to just flash an official rom?
Would have thought so, is it supposed to be for the kaiser, or will it need manually di-sectting into sys and xip parts to build a unofficial ROM with ?
I followed the instructions Kaiser ROM Kitchen Tutorial in the wiki.
Cooked a few ROMs, flashed it couple of times. Tried making own packages.
Now while experimenting I tried some more recent ROMs and fetched the most recent (Kaiser_HTC_ASIA_HK_WWE_3.34.721.2) of the HTC Kaiser ROM from the wiki.
While screwing around with it, I couldn't help noticing that if I flash the ROM I cooked it always shows an old version of WM. Now it shows WM6 but I am sure I flashed WM6.1 . Did I do something wrong while cooking? Is this just the version shown or is it really an old version? I do not have a clue.
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BTW: First post. Hi guys. Thanks for everything until now.
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I followed the instructions Kaiser ROM Kitchen Tutorial in the wiki.
Cooked a few ROMs, flashed it couple of times. Tried making own packages.
Now while experimenting I tried some more recent ROMs and fetched the most recent (Kaiser_HTC_ASIA_HK_WWE_3.34.721.2) of the HTC Kaiser ROM from the wiki.
While screwing around with it, I couldn't help noticing that if I flash the ROM I cooked it always shows an old version of WM. Now it shows WM6 but I am sure I flashed WM6.1 . Did I do something wrong while cooking? Is this just the version shown or is it really an old version? I do not have a clue.
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BTW: First post. Hi guys. Thanks for everything until now.
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I would start with cooking by dumping and cooking off this base dude.
I wonder if you are making some simple mistake like flashing the wrong image , have the wrong file in the Base ROM or maybe having a WM6 rom dumped in the kitchen.
To be sure...
Clear out your kitchen so you only have the tools needed. Then put the 3.34 in the Base ROM and dump it. Add an OEM package (a simple non HTC app i.e. S2U2), cook and flash and see what happens
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Dave
k, I'll give it a try.
thanks
edit: Seems like reusing a kitchen isn't such a good idea. I think this just cleared up. Thanks guys.