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Struck by an MDA brick!!

Made a huge error.....didnt go through forums and read instructions before trying to Flash a German T-Mobile MDA Compact to a English ROM....
The device is completely dead....
Followed all the steps required to get it back up...It is refusing to do so though....
Used this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=19500
One thing to note is that I am not using the AC charger, am using the USB cable to charge the phone.
Can someone please helpme...
Haven't got past the bootloader mode...

If you followed the instructions from the other thread, it should have started flashing.
Some things to check on:
1) Did you do a full d2s before you attempted the upgrade? It's always good to have something to fall back on.
2) If you can get to a bootloader screen, all is definitely not lost.
3) Sometimes, it takes 4 or 5 minutes for the "Press to flash" comes up on the screen so be patient with that.
4) Make sure you did exactly a 416 byte copy from the original rom file in to the new flash file.
5) You can only write an nb1 file from the pc AFTER it has been created from the pocket pc. If the SD card has been pc formatted, the nb1 file will write to it but the pocket pc won't recognize it and will just sit there at the bootloader screen.
HTH

I think I fired the MDA
Well I did not create the nbf file from the ppc, downloaded it from the the forum FTP. I do not have the backup of the nbf file. As I mentioned I did not read the forums before trying the update.
I just downloaded the T-Mobile ROM update and tried installing it. Obivousioly it didn't work, Game the dreaded the 112 error in the 3rd step.
Am not even getting the bootlader screen now..
Any ideas on how I can get this device up and running.?...

ok, need some clarification here. "What" are you trying to load (nbf files or nb1 files) and how are you trying to load them (SD flash or the standard USB based upgrade)?
Easy enough to check to see if your device can still get to bootload mode....hold the camera and power switches in at the same time and hit soft reset with your stylus. After letting go of those and you see either "Serial" or "USB" at the top of the screen, you should still be able to recover from this.

Tried with the nb1 files not nbf (sorry abt teh error)..
The bootloader screen was showing up ...unitll I tried the T-Mobile MDAcompact_vers11201
After the 112 error while updating...the device now refusing to get to the bootloader mode.
Have I fried the device and made it unusable....?

hey just got back the bootloader screen...

Take the SD card out, disconnect the USB and tell me what happens when you hold the power and camera buttons in at the same time, then hit the soft reset.
Also, has the unit been charged recently?

Its showing Serial v1.00...after the reset.
Its been on the USB chatge all along.....

Great. If you get Serial at the top, this can be recovered.
If you want a good T-Mobile 1.12 rom file, go here and use this one:
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Magician/tmobile-uk_wwe_ROM_1.12.00(thereapermanl).rar
Unpack it and follow all the procedures about copying the 416 bytes, rewriting the file, etc. from the other thread. I have tested this rom file and it installs ok.

Thanks for the encouraging words...
Will it work even if I do not have a backup of the original ROM on my machine?....I only have the tmobile.nb1 file which I got from the XDA forums.
Lemme try using that and editing it.
Thanks a ton for your help.

You might be a little stuck for an nb1 flash if you don't have an original flash back up but don't fear. You can go here and get this WWE1.12 file and just do a USB type upgrade:
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Magician/Shipped_ROMS/WWE_11200_128_11210_ship.exe
I know this one works too. It's ROM 1.12, Radio 1.12 and Ext_ROM 1.12. When you try to run the upgrade program though, it might give you a Country ID error. If so, use the attached upgrade program instead. If this one gives you a Country ID error again, close the program and just run it again. I've been down all these roads already.

Lemme get this right this time: I will be doing the following
1. Install the ROM as you have mentioned. With the country id hack if necessary
2. Hopefully by now the device would be alive. If so will take a backup of the ROM on the SD card
3. From then on follow the instruction given in the doc.
Hope I get it righ this time else Its going to be a long night for me.
Lemme know if I have to do anything else.

Either ROM will work fine for you. It just depends on whether or not you want I-Mate stuff on it or T-Mobile stuff on it.
Doing the USB upgrade will put the I-Mate ROM on but after that, it should be working and you can then do an SD backup, follow the SD flashing procedures and get the T-Mobile ROM on.
Good Luck!

The masupgrateut is throwing up a ruu.dll error?...you seen that one before?

What sort of error? Not found?

yup...
I extracted the ROM exe and found teh file...copied it to the windows folder..and ran the no id program...no error this time round but the update is still giving a COuntry ID error...
Been looking at various posts...specially this one...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=14973
Thinks thats gonna help?

ok...two things.....just run it again. The no ID program sometimes does that on the first time 'round so just run it again.
Second, stick this at the end of the RUU.conf file:
[CHECKCEID_TYPE]=1

ran the program multiple times...still getting the COuntry ID error...

Are you running this program? MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe
...with the change in the RUU.conf file?

I just noticed something....did you extract all the files to a single directory and just run it from there or did you just pull a few out?
ALL the files have to be in the same directory. This is also where you need to execute the installer program.

total noob here but some questions about flashing

ive been trying to read up on everything but it seems that a lot of the information assumes i know at least a little about what im going to do. I really dont know anything and the tilt will be my first wm phone ever. i have never flashed a phone before but i would love to use duttys rom that i came across on this site, please tell me if these steps are correct for flashing my tilt before i go ahead and try it (dont wanna mess it up)
1. first i will do the hard-spl flash to allow flashing of the roms on my tilt- found at this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679 seems easy enough
2. i download duttys hybrid build no. 4
3. it seems like the easiest way to flash my tilt is to do it from a micro sd card? i found these steps at this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332246
1. Get a 128MB MicroSD card (or whatever size you like) and format it (***please make sure you format it, but not just delete all contents on it)
2. find the ROM image you would like to use, normally namede RUU_Sign.nbh, and rename it to "KAISIMG.nbh"
3. Plug the card into the phone, then enter boot loader mode by pressing down the Power and Camera buttons simultaneously, and using the stylus at the same time to press the RESET button at the left side. Continue pressing the two buttons for a few seconds after pressing and releasing the reset button until the bootloader screen appears. (taken from Wiki)
4. You will first see a tri-color screen then the information on the card. Press power button to start flashing.
5. After all these are done, press the reset button located at the bottom of the phone to reset the device.
4. Is flashing the rom really as easy as these steps ^ make it seem to be? just put duttys RUU_sign.nbh renamed to KAISIMG.nbh on the formatted card, then do the reset instructions and follow the rest?
thank for the time and responses, sorry if there are more simplified instructions somewhere, but i hope i figured it all out before i try this.

I actually think the easiest way is through activesync, clicking on the executable that is usually given. but your first 2 steps is right.

ok so if i do 1 and 2
then i just put both files (the exe and the nbh on the phone) and run the exe from the phone? and thats it? lol
also what would you say the chances are of a total noob (like me) bricking a $400 phone...
EDIT: so i assume this: To Flash a ROM or Radio simply use a tool to convert the .nb files in to .nbh format Dutty's NBH tool works great! then copy pof's Kaiser Custom_RUU into the same folder and then run the Custom_RUU and your device will start the upgrade process. With the new RUU when you flash a splash screen or radio only your device will not hard reset!
i dont have to do the conversion for duttys because the files are already .nbh, correct?

You don't put the .exe and .nbh on the phone. Make sure you have an Active Sync connection to the phone, extract the files to your PC and run the .exe. The .exe goes through pre-checks to make sure your phone is ready to flash. Just make sure you have HardSPL on your device before doing anything. Should be straight forward.
Good luck.

ooo ok, i havent gotten the phone yet so i dont really have any thing to look at im just reading up on it, but that clears most/ if not all of my questions thanks a lot - both of you =)

Is it really possible for such tornado devices be upgraded without a PC?

I have searched these information because I'm a Mac user.
Ok. I have searched the web for a whole day, and I've got the information I need. I've already Application unlocked my phone by editing the registry, and SuperCID unlocked my phone by installing the Cert.cab (I'm really not sure about this, because you will click on something like "Set CID" on a PC).
These are the links and information that I've found:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1018902&postcount=6
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=295735
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-315977.html
The first link is for Typhoon, but I guess it's only the same process used with Tornado. The second link is for Hermes, also used the same process for upgrading. The third one is just some random link about Crossbow on smartphones.
So, I have the files from karhoe's guide:
http://karhoe.net/myfiles/illi_WM6.1_remade_by_rickwyatt_v2a.zip
It's the WM6.1 Standard made by rickwyatt. I found the "nk.nbf" file, and renamed it to "TORNIMG.nbf". I formatted my miniSD card to FAT32. It also says on the links above that you should copy the "xxxxIMG.nbf" (xxxx means the first four letters of your device) in the root folder of your miniSD card, and access the bootloader on your phone by holding down the camera button together with the comm manager button and by hitting the power button. Confirm flashing on screen, and wait until the process is finished (do not reset it, will take about 30min).
I haven't done this yet 'cause I'm not sure if my phone is SuperCID.
My questions are:
1. I have my phone application unlocked by editing something on the registry, and installed "Cert.cab" from SPV-Services. But I'm not sure if my phone is SuperCID, 'cause I think you'll be doing something like this: http://karhoe.net/images/stories/wm6upgrade/step6.jpg
2. Am I going to brick my phone by doing this?

1. No your phone doesn't superCid by installing cert.cab!! You must use SPVservices for it!!

A Problem after installing a ROM - RESCUE Options

A couple day ago I've installed a new ROM (Touch FLO Manila 2D) on my Herald using "FLASH CENTER". It has worked for some time, but after one rebooting the system didn't start any more - after turning on it appears a green screen for a pair seconds, then my Herald goes automatically down. And it repeats again and again... And it is not possible to restore the system though ActiveSync, because the Herald doesn't start at all.
I have looked through in this forum for possible rescue options. one of them seemed to be FLASHING FROM SD CARD. But this had no effect - a tricolor has appeared, but it happened nothing more. Probably there is possible to install a ROM this way on working WINDOWS MOBILE' s and not at broken.
I thought - may be it is possible to install a Windows Mobile on SD CARD (something like portable version) and so boot a system from SD Card ???
I hope you can help me.
Thanks.

radjapost said:
A couple day ago I've installed a new ROM (Touch FLO Manila 2D) on my Herald using "FLASH CENTER". It has worked for some time, but after one rebooting the system didn't start any more - after turning on it appears a green screen for a pair seconds, then my Herald goes automatically down. And it repeats again and again... And it is not possible to restore the system though ActiveSync, because the Herald doesn't start at all.
I have looked through in this forum for possible rescue options. one of them seemed to be FLASHING FROM SD CARD. But this had no effect - a tricolor has appeared, but it happened nothing more. Probably there is possible to install a ROM this way on working WINDOWS MOBILE' s and not at broken.
I thought - may be it is possible to install a Windows Mobile on SD CARD (something like portable version) and so boot a system from SD Card ???
I hope you can help me.
Thanks.
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This is the wrong forum for this. I have written a few guides on how "unbrick" the Herald.
You can flash just fine from the tricolor screen. (That's where the phone takes you automatically when you flash "from" windows mobile.) So no worries, you aren't out of luck. Worse case scenario, you search for the GoldCard method if nothing else works.

Hello!
Thank you for your help.
You say, I am on right way with my "tricolor screen". But why doesn't happen anything? May be:
- should I just take another SD Card? My is 1 GB - is it OK, too big, too small?
- did I something wrong with "flashing" methods? I did it 2 ways:
- just with any ROM-File in NBH-Format, which was renamed to HERAIMG.NBH and placed alone to the formated SD Card
- in addition to HERAIMG.NBH also other files (like "EnterBootloader.exe"), which are often inclusive in ROM- ZIPs.
- I should be more patient and wait more than 1 hour with a hope that anything will change?
Could you give me the links for "unbricking" the Herald?
Thanks a lot.

You misunderstood me. You don't flash with the SD card through the tricolor screen. You flash through the regular flash center. If you're not hardSPL you have to flash the stock ROM.
As far as the flashing through SD goes, it should give you a countdown before the tricolor screen appears. If it doesn't, or if it's too fast to read, then your SD card is too slow.

As it loads this tricolor screen I see the following data:
IPL 1.08.0001
SPL 1.08.0001
Perhaps it means, that I indeed need a GOLDCARD method.
You don't flash with the SD card through the tricolor screen. You flash through the regular flash center.
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But the FLASH CENTER works only on WINDOWS. So I can't use the regular flash center, because my Herald doesn't start up and ActiveSync doesn't see him.
If you're not hardSPL you have to flash the stock ROM.
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Where do I get the original ROM, may be even WM5? In your FTP- server I have found some "ship.exe"- Files, but I can't extract ".nbh" files from them.
it should give you a countdown before the tricolor screen appears. If it doesn't, or if it's too fast to read, then your SD card is too slow.
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May be that is the point!!! My SD is too slow. Will be in this case "GoldCard" an ideal solution for me?
Thanks.

radjapost said:
As it loads this tricolor screen I see the following data:
IPL 1.08.0001
SPL 1.08.0001
Perhaps it means, that I indeed need a GOLDCARD method.
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This means that you attempted to flash a HardSPL or another SPL when your SPL did not meet the state requirements. You NEED to create a Goldcard.
radjapost said:
But the FLASH CENTER works only on WINDOWS. So I can't use the regular flash center, because my Herald doesn't start up and ActiveSync doesn't see him.
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No, the flash center doesn't only work in Windows. It works on the bootloader mode. ActiveSync's icon turning green doesn't mean that activesync saw the phone, it means that it can synchronize your information with the computer.
radjapost said:
Where do I get the original ROM, may be even WM5? In your FTP- server I have found some "ship.exe"- Files, but I can't extract ".nbh" files from them.
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If you broke your SPL like I mentioned above, you will have to use the Goldcard first then you will be able to flash any stock Herald/Tmobile Wing ROM.
radjapost said:
May be that is the point!!! My SD is too slow. Will be in this case "GoldCard" an ideal solution for me?
Thanks.
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I don't know if it will be too slow for that, too. But if you broke your SPL, the goldcard is the ONLY way to fix it.

The problem is - for GOLD Card I need a working WINDOWS Mobile Handy... and I don't have such one at the moment.
Is it possible to become a standard GOLD Card, which would be suitable for most of Heralds?
Thanks

radjapost said:
The problem is - for GOLD Card I need a working WINDOWS Mobile Handy... and I don't have such one at the moment.
Is it possible to become a standard GOLD Card, which would be suitable for most of Heralds?
Thanks
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You don't need a windows mobile phone. You can also create one using linux.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=485364
Obviously, make it for the Herald not the Dream.

Hi.
You don't need a windows mobile phone. You can also create one using Linux.
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I've installed Linux on my computer, but i can't find a correct command to read a CID of my SD Card. My SD is located in Linux under "/media/disk-1" and I try to write something like "cat /media/disk-1:*/cid", but the Linux doesn't recognize CID command at all.
Actually, I hope, that after getting CID it will not be difficult to obtain a goldcard.img through QMAT. Am I right?
Thanks.

Palm Teeo 750 Help me please!!!

Hello Friends.
My English is not very good but let me indicate the beginning'll try to explain.
I bought the device from last year's TR TURKCELL un rom convert was 6.5.
My job, I had to return 6.5 to 6.1 sees. I tried to go back a lot of things but I think the name of the error RUU_signed.nbh file with the name change CHEEIMG.nbh want to install after the following issue has occurred.
How do I do if I've stayed if the bootloader. Now red, green, blue and white colors on the screen there. When a screen comes up gray. when I press the camera, restart button does bootloder screen.
On Screen
Palm TR
IPL-0.20
Palm TR
SPL-0.24 0000
Writes...
USB and PC hardware in the device is visible. Can not connect to the bootloader in the Active SYNC.
I researched the Internet to the device I need to take the original rom. A lot like the original Treo750_Cingular_ROM called Treo750_2.23_ROW_WM6 ROM file I tried did not take. As enhancements on a PC via USB, but does not do installation DesktopUpdater. I tried with SD card, makes installation , BOOT Ok GSM gives OK, but gives FAİL Errors on OS install. At the end of the installation gives the error bar. I'm normal with FAT32 formatted SD was snow. SD card would install the original file 1.16RWE_CHEEIMG.nbh. camera, I would hold the restart button. to install the device, while 1% is automatically rebooted. I also want to install the self-RADIO reboot is 7%.
As far as I understand with; device when large files at 1% at small-sized files when closing at 7% has been reopened
devicereset, Hard-SPL, Treo750_OS5_2_19199WWE_STD, Original 1.16RWE.nbh, Treo750_2_23_ROW_DE_DesktopUpdater, completefixed, I tried almost everything, but the installation does not do..
I need this device too. I am electronics technician. Heard called JTAG recovery method.
Luckily the apology, that I am open for any ideas. but you'll help me. Tek Tek at a descriptive writer, you'll be happy. I trust you. As of this minute to thank every one, wish to express my respect and greetings

Based on your bootloader screen you have not successfully HardSPL'd your Treo. You need to do that first, and then flashing ROMs with the SD card is possible. You can't flash a ROM using the SD card without doing this.
You also can't downgrade a ROM using the regular installation packages because the install package will see the current ROM (if I understand you correctly, WM6.5) is a newer ROM than what you are trying to install. I think I remember seeing a post someplace where you can edit one of the files in the installer package to get it to work, but you would have to search to find it and even so, it's probably much more difficult to do than just doing the Hard SPL.