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Phone won't turn on...keeps restarting

I've read in other forums of this problem but have not been able to find a solution (not entirely true).....when I turn the phone on in the morning, it just keeps restarting without going to the home screen. Sometimes it take 2 reboots sometimes more. The only way it will boot up correctly right from the start is to take the mem card out, so I think that's probably the problem, but it's not a corrupt or problem card. Once the phone starts and I put in the mem card all is fine.
I want to try to format the memory card from the phone, but don't know how to. Anyone else know how to do this? Also any other suggestions or solutions?

I got this once. Somehow i got the phone on. I just took the card out and put it in when its about to restart. Mabye it was luck, but i dont know. But if you get your phone on again, I would certainly format it (clear storage)

Does your phone ever act up again after that? Mine still does. It turns on fine without the memory card in. By the way, how do you format the memory card on the phone?

Mine rebooted all the time until I removed Facade. Hard Reset the phone and didn't install it and haven't had the problem since. I know Facade isn't "compatible" yet with WM6, but other than rebooting it worked fine.

Really....I'm going to try that and see what happens.

For those that have this problem, it's true. Once Facade is uninstalled and a soft reset, the problem went away....

I had this happnen to me for the first time today. I had the phone off all night (was testing another device) and then when I put my SIM back in and powered up it went into this reboot cycle. powerd off, even took the battery out still no luck.
Then I took the SIM out and tried to power up and it came right up. Powered off and put the SIM back and it worked agian first time.
Not sure, but maybe the SIM was not fully seated... since this was the first time I actually took it out since I get the VOX...and this was the first time I had the problem...
Regards -John

I had the same problem, although I never installed Facade, Initially the phone was fine and the it started re-booting on startup. I saw a suggestion of running SKtools and removeing duplicates in the Notification table, this worked for a while, then it came back again.
At first the only cure appeared to be to re-boot without the sd card inserted - inserting it again after the phone was running (it even had the same problem with a blank card inserted)
I then read abot someone putting the phone in Flight mode before turning it off - this also solved the problem - better than removing the card each time.
Mike

After hard reset - lost option to store attachments on storage card
I had the same problem and solved it by hard resetting the device. However after the hard reset the option to user the storage card for email attachments has disappeared from the pOutlook options screen.
The SD Card is OK and I tried to solve it by a new hard reset, but it is still not resolved.
I would be very graefull for the one that has a solution for this.

I have the same problem with my SD card.
With the card inserted the phone keeps rebooting.
With the card removed it starts normally.
When I insert the card when WM6 is running the card is normal accessible.
Tried an other card and also a 1 Gb card. Same problem over and over.
I'm going to try a Kingston card.
If anyone has a solution, I'll be happy to hear it.

i have my microSD inserted when i power on my Vox but didn't have this problem. what rom version do you have? my rom version is 1.15.405.2.

I have a friend with a similar problem. Would appreciate any further input on this situation. Has anyone taken a look at Paul's (from Modaco) answer to soft reset loop????
Check it out and see if it does anything. Want to know if that'll fix it before I take the phone off his hands.

Hi all,
Like many Vox users, I've also suffered from this problem.
I've noticed two scenarios which helped me solve the "boot-loop". Hopefully they'll help others.
I once had a GPRS monitor application installed to my strorage card. Re-installing to the phones memory helped me.
Also, when I had bluetooth turned on, I powered down, powered-up again, and the phone booted okay!
I think theres a few variables involved in this, and no single "silver bullet". Hopefully HTC will provide an official fix soon.
Michael.

Friends,
Thats all humours. Don't need to remove/install any software. All work fine except you reboot and remove your SD card.
Its simple: if rebooting occurs, just remove SD card and once booted, reinsert SD card, simple! nothing else need to do.
Its true that its a bug with WM unfortunately; i don't know when would it be resolved.

i have tried to boot up with 512MB & 1GB sd card but never had this rebooting problem. Maybe you can let me know your current rom code version and i will try to verify the problem?

I have got the same problem my phone keeps on restarting...
when i put the mem-card after restarting it is being opened as storage card 2, and default storage card option asks for turning on the bluetooth.

Re: Rebooting of Vox
Hi,
Had this problem once (and drove me nuts!, I was out on tour, no PC access nothing).
I formatted the SD Card (Its always better to use a card reader and format it from a PC.
Another I had this problem (hope you are not as dumb as me ):
I use TPC and set it to ultra slow . So every time I booted up, the CPU was not simply powerful enough to cater to the power requirement and rebooted. I had to do a Hard Reset. Hope you have your contacts backup before you go for a hard reset

hhs6789 said:
I have got the same problem my phone keeps on restarting...
when i put the mem-card after restarting it is being opened as storage card 2, and default storage card option asks for turning on the bluetooth.
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If you have bluetooth file explorer turned on, it will show as a storage card

i had it long time ago with one of the official htc roms.
The solution is to make loose the simcard-slot in the middle of the booting.
Vox will turn off.
Close and start the phone again.
It should be over then.

Re: Official ROMs
Yeah! The official ROMs suck! actually the best solution will be to switch to a custom ROM from Dr G/FH / fireburned, they are much much better feature wise/ battery backup wise and speed wise. I think HTC should try using one of those ROM as there official ROM

Continous Rebooting

My brand new Vox is continously rebooting. The only way I can get it to boot is to take out the microsd card, then put it back in after it boots. The microsd card works fine afterwoods, but its really annoying.
Anyone else have this problem?

Looks like you installed something which the Vox doesn't like.
Perhaps facade? (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=307378)

Had the exact same problem. Removing the microSD worked also.
Afterwards it was working fine. The problem started after installing
BatMonitor on the device. Removing it solved the problem permanently.
I would suggest you go through the programs you installed and check
to see wich one is causing the issue.

Thanks guys, I have a feeling you are both right and it is a programs I have installed. I wonder if it's newsbreak as my data file is on my microsd card. I guess I should wipe the device and start over....

For a temporary fix, remove the MicroSD, boot, then put the MicroSD back on.
For a more permanent fix: Install SKTools Lite and run the "Notifications Queue" tool. Then Press ACTION > Mark Duplicates. If you scroll down you will see some duplicates checked. Next press ACTION > Delete marked.
That should keep you running for a while. If the problem re-appears in the future, repeat this procedure.

Thanks. I read that post on Modaco too, but it didn't work for me. For now I just remove the microsd card when I reboot. I guess I will wipe the device and start over at some point...just had everything I wanted loaded right
ayan said:
For a temporary fix, remove the MicroSD, boot, then put the MicroSD back on.
For a more permanent fix: Install SKTools Lite and run the "Notifications Queue" tool. Then Press ACTION > Mark Duplicates. If you scroll down you will see some duplicates checked. Next press ACTION > Delete marked.
That should keep you running for a while. If the problem re-appears in the future, repeat this procedure.
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Had the same problem. Thought it was the Facade, but it turns out not. I don't know what it is but I basically did a hard reset. Put everything I wanted back into the phone and than turned on without MSD card. Once it rebooted, I put the card back in. Since than no reboot problems so far.

I had the same problem, although I am not sure if it is related to installing any particular program. Initially the phone was fine and then it started re-booting on startup. I saw a suggestion of running SKtools and removeing duplicates in the Notification table, this worked for a while, then it came back again.
At first the only cure appeared to be to re-boot without the sd card inserted - inserting it again after the phone was running (I even had the same problem if a blank sd card was card inserted)
I then read about someone putting the phone in Flight mode before turning it off - this also solved the problem - better than removing the card each time.
Mike

yep, this happened to me, although i have no programs installed on my S710! (tho it did have a nasty drop onto the ground - which shouldnt realli affect it)took out the card, and it booted up fine! i keep my phone on 24/7 normally but had run outta battery!
Cheers!

Formatting the MicroSD card worked for me

Problem came back again today, and sett flight mode did not fix it, then i found this http://www.modaco.com/Continuous-reboots-t256186.html
which suggested renaming omap850_sdhc.dll to omap850_sdhc.dll.ol
but in my S710 I only have omap850_sdhc_mux.dll and that file is in rom and I can't copy or rename it.
Looks like it might be a sd card driver bug.
Mike

wizgnome said:
Problem came back again today, and sett flight mode did not fix it, then i found this http://www.modaco.com/Continuous-reboots-t256186.html
which suggested renaming omap850_sdhc.dll to omap850_sdhc.dll.ol
but in my S710 I only have omap850_sdhc_mux.dll and that file is in rom and I can't copy or rename it.
Looks like it might be a sd card driver bug.
Mike
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have you tried to edit the file with a copy of total commader??? sorry if it's such an obvious question...

I did try this with Total Comander!
Looking around at other posts/forums it looks like it is a WM6 problem. Probably related to the SD card driver.
At the moment the only consistant suggestion, is to reboot with the SD card removed and insert it when the phone is back up and running.

I managed to get the phone to boot with the SD card inserted!
I know that when booting that I do not run any applications which are installed on the SD card. But the home screen does display things which are located on the SD card - in particular the skype plugin, and the mru list display icons from files located on the SD card.
I change my homescreen to "Sindows Simple" which does not contain either of these and re-booted.
The phone came back up first time!
- Is windows trying to access the card too soon - before the driver has loaded maybe?
Mike

wizgnome said:
I managed to get the phone to boot with the SD card inserted!
I know that when booting that I do not run any applications which are installed on the SD card. But the home screen does display things which are located on the SD card - in particular the skype plugin, and the mru list display icons from files located on the SD card.
I change my homescreen to "Sindows Simple" which does not contain either of these and re-booted.
The phone came back up first time!
- Is windows trying to access the card too soon - before the driver has loaded maybe?
Mike
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Not sure if its trying to access it to soon but with my HTC Herald I had similar problem. By removing and home screen plugin's related to the memory card, as well as any other links to the memory card such as storing PIE cache and saving pictures it seemed to work for a bit, but just as I thought I solved it, the problem re-appeared. Paul seemed to have fixed the issue for ppc's (sdhc dll that was causing the problem)but it doesn't seem as though the solution can be carried over because the vox is not SDHC. Another cause the some speculate is that there are multiple notifications that boot at the same time, maybe cleaning these would help.
On another note I have just upgraded my friend's vox to the dopod rom and it seems as if the problem has disappeared (hopefully for good.) I will try to invoke the problem again by running programs from the memory at boot and see if this nag has been squeezed out by HTC sister company. Has anyone else tried to upgrade to the dopod rom???
cheers

Hi,
I had previously removed duplicate notifications and ensured that no applications on the SD card were run at start up, including setting the browser cache back to the phone memory.
I can now cause the problem to occur or boot normally just by switching homescreens.
I edited my home screens xml to remove all plugins that refered to applications on the sd card, including the mru list - this home screen allows normal boot. The other version causes the re-boot loop.
Mike.

I can confirm that my numerous attempts to invoke the boot-loop after upgrading to the dopod rom have thankfully failed.
neptune 1
boot loop 12083798
Ok so maybe the boot loop has gotten the best of me (atleast 40 hard resets) over the past couple of months, but the problems have been choked to death on my herald and the vox...any last words...
EDITS if this mf'er pulls an Arnold like "I'll be back" I swear ima go all terminator on this phone and blow it to pieces with a pack of m-80's

I managed to solve this problem on my phone by renaming the directory "/windows/Autorun/Storage Card" to "/windows/Autorun/OldStorage Card"
Maybe it would help in your cases..

PROBLEMS SOLVED! (Having a bad night... please help!)

Hello,
still relatively new here and have been having a good experience in general (other than wife complaining i am spending too much time on the forum )
I have a Orange Kaiser, using DCS 1.5 and a 1.64 radio. So far so good,...but tonight is a nightmare:
- My SD card, a 8GB model, is showing NO FILES on file explorer, other than a ttom file: I hard reset, and still nothing. But the memory programm is showing 3.5GB is used on the card. I browsed the card on my PC...same thing! I used to have maps, photos, cab files,... I tried scanning the card on my pc, and it did find a lot of lost files, but not usable. I basically am reformating the card since I have most on my PC, except for a few pictures. Did that happen to anyone before? I hope it does not happen too often, but a good lesson learnt on backup!
- The most annoying thing is that after hardware reset the Kaiser I still cannot connect the Kaiser to my PC! When I connect through a USB cable, I would see the carging led lit, but no connection. I have vista and upgraded to the latest 6.1 windows mobile device center, and still nothing. THis is really annoying as I cannot even flash a new ROM! I tried on my wife PC, tried several USB cables, and still the same.. Any idea? Should I jsut go to bed
Hopefully I can solve this one as I can't do much without it!
Thanks for any tip.
Juju

Start, settings, Connections TAB, USB-to-pc: untick "enable advanced networking"
My sdhc card has been fine for the last few months.

unwired4 said:
Start, settings, Connections TAB, USB-to-pc: untick "enable advanced networking"
My sdhc card has been fine for the last few months.
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Unfortunately tried that before and still nothing!
Juju

I know you probably don't want to hear this, but I've heard of quite a few of the larger Micro SD Cards (4GB/8GB) wiping themselves. I never looked deep into the cause though. As for your Active Sync, can you connect to a Windows XP based computer?

Just a couple days ago my 2GB MicroSD started refusing to write, kicking back errors that the disk was full (with 1.5GB free)
I copied all the data off and reformatted the card, copied it back, and it was fine. Must have been a corruption in the FAT.. caused by.. who knows!

juju-35 said:
Hello,
still relatively new here and have been having a good experience in general (other than wife complaining i am spending too much time on the forum )
I have a Orange Kaiser, using DCS 1.5 and a 1.64 radio. So far so good,...but tonight is a nightmare:
- My SD card, a 8GB model, is showing NO FILES on file explorer, other than a ttom file: I hard reset, and still nothing. But the memory programm is showing 3.5GB is used on the card. I browsed the card on my PC...same thing! I used to have maps, photos, cab files,... I tried scanning the card on my pc, and it did find a lot of lost files, but not usable. I basically am reformating the card since I have most on my PC, except for a few pictures. Did that happen to anyone before? I hope it does not happen too often, but a good lesson learnt on backup!
- The most annoying thing is that after hardware reset the Kaiser I still cannot connect the Kaiser to my PC! When I connect through a USB cable, I would see the carging led lit, but no connection. I have vista and upgraded to the latest 6.1 windows mobile device center, and still nothing. THis is really annoying as I cannot even flash a new ROM! I tried on my wife PC, tried several USB cables, and still the same.. Any idea? Should I jsut go to bed
Hopefully I can solve this one as I can't do much without it!
Thanks for any tip.
Juju
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You can put the phone in boot loader mode (hold down the camera button and do a soft reset) disable activesync on your PC then flash to another ROM or go back to the factory ROM. Hope this helps
-McMex

Sounds like you need to format the card. That usually works when they give errors like that.

A7LAS said:
Sounds like you need to format the card. That usually works when they give errors like that.
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Wow, scary thread. I think I'll back my card up right now. I install program files onto it frequently, I'd hate to lose all of that suddenly.

mcmexican said:
You can put the phone in boot loader mode (hold down the camera button and do a soft reset) disable activesync on your PC then flash to another ROM or go back to the factory ROM. Hope this helps
-McMex
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Ok, will try this, I am sure I could be yelled at because it is in the wiki somewhere, but how would I load the new ROM without the USB connection working? Boot form SD card?
I will also try another XP machine at work. Maybe it is a stupid security setting from Vista....
Thanks all for the feedback.
Juju
PS: Thanks for the other comments on the card. I re-formatted it (using a SD card reader), and now it looks fine, I was able to read my files again copied form the PC. Everyobyd make sure you backup for SD card often is all I would say!

Once you have the phone in bootloader mode and activesync disabled. Just run the rom like you normally would if it was connected thru activesync. It will recognize the phone and start the flash.
-McMex

mcmexican said:
Once you have the phone in bootloader mode and activesync disabled. Just run the rom like you normally would if it was connected thru activesync. It will recognize the phone and start the flash.
-McMex
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Thanks so much, will try over lunch!

Problems Solved!
Sorry empty post! (how do I delete a post!)

Problems Solved!
SD CARD not showing any files
I had to basically reformat it and lost all my files (4.5G worth). Fortunately I have 99% on my PC. Backing up the PC as we speak!
Lesson learnt: Backup your SD cards often!
Kaiser would not connect through USB
So, after trying XP, USB to PC options, bootloader mode (would do a 260 error), ...
I discovered my mini USB connector inside the Kaiser looked like it was not right (showing 4 pins higher than the other 2 in the middle). One of the engineers at work used his swiss army knife and straightened the inside of the connector, and... it worked. He did say it may not last long, so I may have to exchange the phone, but for now I am connected.
Lesson learnt: Beware when connecting and disconnecting, those connectors are fragile.
Thanks all for your help, and sorry to bother you with my problems.
Juju

[Q] Captivate Black Screen on Reboot

My problem started when apps from the anroid market began to update on their own. I'm not sure what apps they were, but my phone when out. After my phone went out, I took the battery, SIM, and Sd card out of the device and tried to reboot it. Now, when my phone boots, it gives me the ATT screen, goes to black with the bottom row buttons lit up and the phone vibrates once and twice in quick succession and then goes out again. My phone has been acting this way for the past 4 days. On occasion the phone will completely boot for a minute or two, and then will go out and reboot to the black screen. I'm not sure what I can do next. I do NOT have a rooted device and the majority of my music is located on the internal sd. (I'm just now figuring out that the internal and external SD are not the same) I don't want to lose the media on the internal sd and I don't want to lose my bookmarks. I have tried to transfer files from the internal to the external sd, on the rare occassion of when my phone fully booted for a quick minute, but I had no such luck. I have tried backing things up on my computer, but I get an error message that the USB is corrupted and has malfunctioned. I have read about ODIN3, but I have not tried to flash the device, everything is the way it was when I bought the phone. Is there any hope for me? Will a hard reset wipe the data off of my internal sd? I just want my media files and possibly save my bookmarks....PLEASE HELP!!!!!!! What can I do?........Samsung Captivate 2.1

No you shouldnt loose your media, use this method.

Thanks a lot!!!!!

[Q] Please help data recovery on HD7 - desperate!

2 days ago my son was born and I used my HTC HD7 to take all pictures and videos of him and my wife, these were the most amazing and precious moments of my life and I captured them all on my phone.
My wife and I both have identical HD7 phones, last night I took my phone home and charged a spare battery for her, today I took this to hospital and we both turned our phones off and waited until the "goodbye" sreen had vanished, and then swapped the batterys over in the phones so she had the fully charged battery and I had the low/quarter full battery. When she switched on her phone, everything was fine, but when I switched on mine I saw some screen flash up saying something about "pressing the volume buttons to erase your phone" I paniced at this point and did a stupid thing and took out the battery again. After I put it back in it booted up and gave me the "seup windows phone" screen. At this point I switched my phone off and havent swiched it back on since.
Is there any hope of recoverying the pictures and videos? Apps, contactacts etc I dont care about, but these are the most important moments of my life I want to recover. I have no idea what happened, but at the moment I am very upset.
I am an IT technician myself, and in the past it has been all stored on the memory card, but there is no way to remove the memory card on this phone. I am willing to destroy the phone to preserve this data if needed, Is there any way I could remove the memory card? I could try some data recovery software if this is the case.
Please help, the might be a simple way to sort this I haven't been able to find. I have now been up 36 hours as my wife has had a lot of complications and lost a lot of blood last night and ended up having a transfusion. Sorry to be so personal, but I am really desperate to save these photos.

you might have accidentally held the volume button when you turned on the device, and that triggered that factory reset feature.
I have done this accidentally with my trophy as well when i was running late for work, but instead of removing the battery, i held down the power button and tried again, but when it turned on it didnt show me a setup one where you type in your windows live id, instead my one was an image of a windows phone suggesting to connect to a laptop via USB cable, again i didnt panic and turned off the screen and held down the volume button and the power button and i did trigger the factory reset in purpose, once i was at the factory reset screen, pressing any other button (camera key, and sleep/wake/power key) apart from the volume keys disables the reset feature and will continue to boot to wp7.
I dont know if Im helping, but thats how I resolved my situation.

How to remove memory card
Hi Herr_ando,
Firstly Congratulations on becoming a father
Secondly do not worry all is not lost, if you cannot get the handset to boot normally you can remove the memory card (without voiding the warranty too) A lot of people figured this out when they had fist purchased the HD7 and have since used the following video clip to help them upgrade the memory card size:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EcGUX3NwnQ
I have done this myself but had trouble when reading the memory card via a dongle (this is due to the differing format used by WP7) the way i got round this was either by putting the memory card into an old N97 nokia phone and using the pc software to remove the pictures from it or to use a flash drive recovery app found via google.
Hope this helps,
Creamy

It doesn't sound like you actually performed a factory reset so it's probably fine... but if you want to be safe, pull out the SD card like the previous post says. It might make you factory reset after putting it back in, but if you already save your pics and videos, who cares, right?

thesecondsfade said:
It doesn't sound like you actually performed a factory reset so it's probably fine... but if you want to be safe, pull out the SD card like the previous post says. It might make you factory reset after putting it back in, but if you already save your pics and videos, who cares, right?
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It's okay to take out the SD card and put it back as long as the phone isn't turned on in the meantime and nothing is written to the SD card.
So it's okay if you use the SD card to recover photos and put it back in, as long as the phone stays off in this time.
@herr_ando: Congratulations on becoming a father!

Hi guys, thanks for the congratulations.
I tried removing the memory card and plugged it into a card reader, no joy reading this card, in fact it wouldnt even detect. I also tried putting it into my Toshiba Camileo, which I know deffo supports SDHC cards of this size, was unable to see it at all.
Also tried it in a new laptop, with a micro > full size adaptor, no joy, and a blackberry 8520 with mass storage enabled still cant read this card, when I choose disable mass storage it tells me the memory card isn't formatted.
I know Windowsphone7 files on the memory card isn't supposed to be accessable outside the OS but this makes data recovery impossible for me.
If this was a PC HDD or standard SD card I could run some data recovery software, and try to recover these files even if the card has been formatted. but I have no idea how to do this for this card... any ideas?

herr_ando said:
Hi guys, thanks for the congratulations.
I tried removing the memory card and plugged it into a card reader, no joy reading this card, in fact it wouldnt even detect. I also tried putting it into my Toshiba Camileo, which I know deffo supports SDHC cards of this size, was unable to see it at all.
Also tried it in a new laptop, with a micro > full size adaptor, no joy, and a blackberry 8520 with mass storage enabled still cant read this card, when I choose disable mass storage it tells me the memory card isn't formatted.
I know Windowsphone7 files on the memory card isn't supposed to be accessable outside the OS but this makes data recovery impossible for me.
If this was a PC HDD or standard SD card I could run some data recovery software, and try to recover these files even if the card has been formatted. but I have no idea how to do this for this card... any ideas?
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Sadly, you need a Nokia cell as stated above, to read the card. Their OS is the only one that supports the partition format & password protection. I have 2 SD Cards that won't work on anything other than a Nokia cell because of this. They came out of a Nokia MusicXpress & Nuron my room mate had.

Hi mate
So you reckon if I buy a Nokia 5230 or similar I should be able to read this card? I should be able to pick one of these up for £35 or so, well worth it to get these photos back.
I have no experiance of nokia phones since the old days of my 3310. Do i need to use nokia software or does this present itself as a removable hdd in windows?
Many thanks.

herr_ando said:
Hi mate
So you reckon if I buy a Nokia 5230 or similar I should be able to read this card? I should be able to pick one of these up for £35 or so, well worth it to get these photos back.
I have no experiance of nokia phones since the old days of my 3310. Do i need to use nokia software or does this present itself as a removable hdd in windows?
Many thanks.
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Creamy stated the n97. I'm not family with all this as I never done it, but there's a lot of threads regarding this. People using Nokia phones to unlock & reformat SD card so they'll work for other devices. As to what devices this work on, I'm not sure, but as long as the card hasn't been erased yet, it's possible that a Nokia phone will be able to read the card & transfer files to your pc. You can look through the forum for more information from people with experience. My experience only deals with trying to get these 2 SD cards working with other devices & will result in for formatting the cards.
NOTE: Also, I do believe you need the nokia desktop software install to transfer file, but am not sure. Another thing, if you do find the sd card is empty, maybe reformatting it in the nokia phone, you'll be able to directly put the sd card in your pc & use your partition recovery tools on it.

Best Digital Media Recovery Software
Hi,
Congratulations on becoming a father!
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