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Folks, any idea how to switch off the screen / lock the keyboard without the need of double press the red power button?
This is kind of bothering cause when you're in a application and need quickly to put your Treo into your pocket, you need to press 1st to get to the home-screen and 2nd to switch off.

Yeah, seems to be something new with the 750 (no other treo before did this). Palm set this up purposely, so I wouldn't assume there's a workaround for it. You'll get used to double clicking

Not that I know
I have used it for ages and found many shortcuts but no "quick lock".
Sorry

How about getting an application that device locks your phone upon return from standby? I use BatteryStatus Today Plugin by Chi Tai Dang.. This plugin has the option to lock device on wakeup and set cpu speed(I use this a lot)..
But mine's a wizard, what do I know about Treo.. but what I do now is, press the power button to get the phone to go into standby and when I want to use it again, I press the power button and it will device lock upon wake up.

I don't have a Treo. How do you initiate said keyboard lock normally?
V

vijay555 said:
I don't have a Treo. How do you initiate said keyboard lock normally?
V
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"Device lock" that you may know of isn't used on Treo's. Palm uses their own "keyguard," which uses the red END button as a power button when not on the phone. If you are on the today screen, one click will shut the device off. However, if you are in another program, the first tap brings you to the today screen, and the second click turns the screen off (and the keyguard on if you have selected it to be that way). On all other treo's, WM or POS, one click of the end button would shut the screen off (unless you were on the phone obviously, it would be the END function), regardless of what program you were in. Palm changed this, I assume, to be like most cell phones, where when you press the END key it returns to the home screen, regardless of what you were doing. Like a RAZR would do.
Thats the best way I can explain it. You would be surprised Vijay on how many customizations Palm made to the OS.

Yes, I've heard that they did - thank Goodness one of the OEMs finally saw fit to do something original.
Hmm.. from what you describe, clicking twice doesn't seem like a very big chore... I did something similar in VJOkButt. Is it really necessary to convert the 2 clicks to 1 click? Investigating it barely seems worth the effort
V

I agree, hence my original post.
When you are on the today screen, it works normally. And you can double-click quite rapidly and it will work. Not a big deal for me.

yes guys, its not that dramatical, but still, it would be an improvement also considering that I want to stay in that one application (a note which I'm editing) and want to get there after waking up the device again without the need of again starting application, look for the last note, opening etc...
with HTC hermes and others the power button works exactly like this and its even better.

Hi all,
If you're using it two handed hold option (the white key, left hand end of row 3) and press the red button once - closes the app and powers off.
But you need an odd-shaped hand to do that one handed!

It is not that the double click isn't easy to do, it's waht fire00 said; if you are in an app, it closes it and then powers off. Case in point, this weekend while driving to a friend's house, I had directions in my email and would have liked to have turned off the phone, but then I would have to find the email again and open it up. On my Wizard, i would just turn it off and then back on and the email would be there for me.
Gotta be a reg hack for someone to find.

mackangus said:
If you're using it two handed hold option (the white key, left hand end of row 3) and press the red button once - closes the app and powers off.
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On my device, that method doesn't close the app. It just locks the keyboard and then powers off. When I power on again, the app is still running and on screen. I think that's what fire00 was looking for.

pjcace said:
It is not that the double click isn't easy to do, it's waht fire00 said; if you are in an app, it closes it and then powers off. Case in point, this weekend while driving to a friend's house, I had directions in my email and would have liked to have turned off the phone, but then I would have to find the email again and open it up. On my Wizard, i would just turn it off and then back on and the email would be there for me.
Gotta be a reg hack for someone to find.
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Sorry PJC ACE, my mis-type - using option + red button powers the device off WITHOUT closing the app - just like the power button on the Wizard ;-)
My apologies!

GUYS YOU'RE ABSOLUTE TREO-EXPERTS !!!!!
thanks a lot, going to dance with the Treo cause I'm so haaapyyy !! )))

fire00 said:
GUYS YOU'RE ABSOLUTE TREO-EXPERTS !!!!!
thanks a lot, going to dance with the Treo cause I'm so haaapyyy !! )))
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Option (hold)+Red Phone button is a nice alternative, but I'd really like to find a way to prevent the Red Phone from reverting to the Today screen, so I can power off directly with it with one press...Vodafone's excuse for specifically asking for it this way (every other phone's "End" button brings you back to the "home" screen) is ridiculous, these aren't like every other phone.

I installed HTC home plugin and now my red button wont let me go into standby. I uninstalled and still not working. Any ideas?

Side Button + Suspend
There is a thread at TreoCentral that explaines how to activate the side button and make it available for button assignment in the settings screen.
Second there is a small program called suspend.
I have mapped the 1 press of the side button to suspend and away we go.
1 - Click keyguards/screen off.
Also it resume in the place or program you left when you unlock it.
Regards

Some button issues with TNT

I've been pretty happy with this phone, especially since I got WM6 on it but I'd like to be able to use Morphgear as an emulator. When I do, I like to use it in "west" orientation with my left thumb on the control pad and my two main buttons as Button 1 (the "mail" button) and Button 5 (the "comm manager" button) so I can press them at the same time with my thumb on 1 and my index finger on 5. When I try to map the buttons that way in Morphgear, it calls Button 5 Button 6 instead and it doesn't work in game. I thought it might be a Morphgear issue but I've tried it with other emulators and it doesn't work in them either. Why is that? Is there any way to correct it? Another annoying issue is that whenever I accidentally press the center of the control pad and Button 1 at the same time it wants to align the screen.
Any help?

evilwise said:
...Another annoying issue is that whenever I accidentally press the center of the control pad and Button 1 at the same time it wants to align the screen.
Any help?
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that combination is probably a built in feature to pull up the align screen program for your device, and i am pretty sure can be removed by tweaking the reg. settings that correspond to the short cut.
You should post your issue under the tnt rom thread to avoid creating redundant threads.
cheers

try vjcalibrula .
it may turn calibration combo off... it works on wizard, at last..

Raphael Issues List:

Right, I can't see an Issues list for this device yet so I'll start one:
1. A couple of times now, I've left my phone to charge overnight and woke up to an unresponsive device. Power button does nothing, screen is off and only way to get it device back up and running is to poke the soft-reset button OR remove and reinsert the battery.
2. Unresponsive buttons: every now and then the "right" button of the D-Pad does nothing, then suddenly it will start working again, same with the "Back" button though much more infrequent/noticable than the D-Pad issue I've experienced.

I did not expierence the first problem with the charging issue.
To close and app you can use the (arrow pointing left) key but sometimes i have to push it like 3 or 4 times before it respond.
Same with the touchscreen but i fixed that by increasing the touchpad sensitivity with a regedit.

My device has reset a few times while I been reading email or texts.
John

Guys. The whole phone besides the keyboard is touch sensitive. So the whole front keys and touchscreen. Increase sensitivity and it should work fine.

Kraize92 said:
Guys. The whole phone besides the keyboard is touch sensitive. So the whole front keys and touchscreen. Increase sensitivity and it should work fine.
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Erm, I'm sorry but that's not right is it. The D-Pad, Send, End, Home and Back buttons are actual buttons as opposed to touch sensitive.
The zoom wheel is obviously a "touch" area too. The issue I am descriping seems to suggest that the switches might be a bit flakey rather than anything else.

no he is right all the buttons are PRESSURE (he said touch) sensitive..when they unvieled the diamond the ceo of htc demonstrated that the keys are pressure sensitie and even the cameria button can SENSE when your finger is approaching to ready the zoom ..here is the youtube vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTd3SUPSJsMit

pazookie said:
no he is right all the buttons are PRESSURE (he said touch) sensitive..when they unvieled the diamond the ceo of htc demonstrated that the keys are pressure sensitie and even the cameria button can SENSE when your finger is approaching to ready the zoom ..here is the youtube vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTd3SUPSJsMit
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Sorry my bad. WM phones used to be called touch sensitve but in reality they're pressure sensitive. The only touch sensitive phones out currently are the iPhones and the Omni I would say.
Syphon Filter said:
Erm, I'm sorry but that's not right is it. The D-Pad, Send, End, Home and Back buttons are actual buttons as opposed to touch sensitive.
The zoom wheel is obviously a "touch" area too. The issue I am descriping seems to suggest that the switches might be a bit flakey rather than anything else.
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If the were actual buttons they would be capable of being pushed in which it's not possible to do

Issues:
HTC task man doesnt work properly.
Poor reception
Too many startup apps/services put on by htc to provide touch interface (which i hate)
why on eart you use operaloder on phones stratup just to get 2-3 more seconds fast load time for opera.
i think htc just over done this touch crap.
could anoyone access setupfiles on rom so i can use plain wm6.1

Kraize92 said:
If the were actual buttons they would be capable of being pushed in which it's not possible to do
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Hang on, you clearly don't own either Touch Pro or a Diamond, the D-Pad, Call, End, Home and Back buttons CAN BE PUSHED IN. They are actual buttons.

Syphon Filter said:
Hang on, you clearly don't own either Touch Pro or a Diamond, the D-Pad, Call, End, Home and Back buttons CAN BE PUSHED IN. They are actual buttons.
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No. I'm sure of it. I have demoed both a touch pro and a diamond. I meant that they CANNOT be pushed in as you can on the kaiser. I know this for a fact and on every video you will see that it is mentioned as a pressure sensitive all around except for the keyboard. I'm sure of that. They are not real buttons. I guess you could push it in if it's just a piece of glass and paper underneath the actual pressure sensitive touchpad, but it wouldn't make it real buttons. I know what I'm talking about Unless HTC suddenly decided to make them real buttons which would kill their profits so I'm assuming that they wouldn't do that either. I demoed it about 2-3 weeks ago.

Syphon Filter said:
Right, I can't see an Issues list for this device yet so I'll start one:
1. A couple of times now, I've left my phone to charge overnight and woke up to an unresponsive device. Power button does nothing, screen is off and only way to get it device back up and running is to poke the soft-reset button OR remove and reinsert the battery.
2. Unresponsive buttons: every now and then the "right" button of the D-Pad does nothing, then suddenly it will start working again, same with the "Back" button though much more infrequent/noticable than the D-Pad issue I've experienced.
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1 - Not had that problem - hopefully that'll go after your next hard reset or ROM update - these damn things always have, and always will behave differently for different people, it seems!
2 - My Back button missed my press once or twice, but I think it's more of a hardware issue than a software issue though (or possibly user error!). I'll tell you now though, hitting the "Right" button on my Diamond was next to impossible. It was extremely stiff, and would eventually register as a press on the "Hang Up" button. Drove me absolutely mental! But I think I was the only Diamond user who had that problem, and my Raphael is fine.

having got one in my hand - they are tactile push bottons - i.e you push them until it clicks before an action happens.

ardsar said:
having got one in my hand - they are tactile push bottons - i.e you push them until it clicks before an action happens.
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Then I must be crazy. Since all I have to do is touch the button and a action happens. But my pressure threshold is very high.

Kraize92 said:
No. I'm sure of it. I have demoed both a touch pro and a diamond. I meant that they CANNOT be pushed in as you can on the kaiser. I know this for a fact and on every video you will see that it is mentioned as a pressure sensitive all around except for the keyboard. I'm sure of that. They are not real buttons. I guess you could push it in if it's just a piece of glass and paper underneath the actual pressure sensitive touchpad, but it wouldn't make it real buttons. I know what I'm talking about Unless HTC suddenly decided to make them real buttons which would kill their profits so I'm assuming that they wouldn't do that either. I demoed it about 2-3 weeks ago.
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I'm not going to get into an argument over this but the 9 buttons (Home, Back, Call, End, Up, Down, Left, Right and the centre of the D-Pad) on the face of the Diamond and the Touch Pro are buttons which have a tactile feedback, a press will not register until you "feel" the button pressed. The only thing in that area that is a "touch sensitive" thing is the zoom wheel.
Just because the area looks flush does not mean they are not buttons. There's a single piece of material that covers that area but I can assure you there are individual switches under there that provide a tactile feedback. You HAVE to feel that feedback for the button to do anything, simply touching it will have no effect unless you are using the zoom wheel functionality.
If you believe anything else you are wrong.

Kraize92 said:
Then I must be crazy. Since all I have to do is touch the button and a action happens. But my pressure threshold is very high.
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1. What do you mean "my pressure threshold is very high"? Are you talking about the registry settings?
2. I thought you didnt have a Touch Pro or Diamond?

I said I didn't own one. Doesn't mean I don't have one in hand right now I have family members and friends that work for HTC america and AT&T.
Yeah. Registry settings/Advance Config for diamond

Kraize92 said:
I said I didn't own one. Doesn't mean I don't have one in hand right now I have family members and friends that work for HTC america and AT&T.
Yeah. Registry settings/Advance Config for diamond
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Yes. Ok.
Anyway, so you're saying that device you have in your hand right now has no tactile feedback on the front face buttons?
If have insiders at HTC why did you ask for donations so you could get a Touch Pro in the other thread?

Syphon Filter said:
Yes. Ok.
Anyway, so you're saying that device you have in your hand right now has no tactile feedback on the front face buttons?
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EDIT: Okay. Maybe I'm mistaken. It's only the d-pad that's pressure sensitive. The buttons are tactile even though they feel as if they are pressure sensitive because I don't push into it like I did with the front face buttons on my kaiser.

ah, you've seen the light. The button DOES push in but the panel is one solid "sheet" that covers all the buttons.
The "wheel" is the only touch sensitive bit. The 5 navigation functions of the d-pad (up down left right select) are all tactile buttons that work off little switches.

Syphon Filter said:
ah, you've seen the light. The button DOES push in but the panel is one solid "sheet" that covers all the buttons.
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Actually. I should show you the light I'm right.
[Link]
Click number 3 and read this caption: "Swipe your finger across the screen to scroll through contracts, zoom, and pan web pages, browse your music library, and more, or press the touch-sensitive buttons to navigate and control your phone."
So concluding to that original fact that I was indeed right

NEED HELP!!!CANNOT PASS the ALLIGN SCREEN

need help...i'm using htc universal with wm 5.. it seems the top right screen when landscape mode doesnt point what i'm ponting with the stylus, SCREEN CALIBRATE..such as the "x" or "ok" button so i'm often using the "ok" keyboard... so i'm performing hard reset..ohh and after i'm doing hard reset...when it showing the"ALIGN SCREEN" i'm pointing the cross target...and its always continue to ALLIGN SCREEN UNTILL NOW AND ITS BEEN 1 HOUR... CAN ANY BODY HELP ME...PLEASE...

ryan47 said:
need help...i'm using htc universal with wm 5.. it seems the top right screen when landscape mode doesnt point what i'm ponting with the stylus, SCREEN CALIBRATE..such as the "x" or "ok" button so i'm often using the "ok" keyboard... so i'm performing hard reset..ohh and after i'm doing hard reset...when it showing the"ALIGN SCREEN" i'm pointing the cross target...and its always continue to ALLIGN SCREEN UNTILL NOW AND ITS BEEN 1 HOUR... CAN ANY BODY HELP ME...PLEASE...
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Seems your digitizer is gone.
Connect the device in active sync and then try MSP remote allignment.
Use search button, hope you'll find it...
regards

ryan47 said:
need help...i'm using htc universal with wm 5.. it seems the top right screen when landscape mode doesnt point what i'm ponting with the stylus, SCREEN CALIBRATE..such as the "x" or "ok" button so i'm often using the "ok" keyboard... so i'm performing hard reset..ohh and after i'm doing hard reset...when it showing the"ALIGN SCREEN" i'm pointing the cross target...and its always continue to ALLIGN SCREEN UNTILL NOW AND ITS BEEN 1 HOUR... CAN ANY BODY HELP ME...PLEASE...
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maybe the problem is that you dont tap at the screen right.
i had a similar problem before
look closer into the cross, you will see a white dot
tap right into the center and i think that will solve your problem
you just gotta be precise

I had the problem before. You need to change the touch screen,it cost about 20$

Try to shift the screen from horizontal to vertical (i had the same problem with an old rom)

It is hardware failure,that's all.I got one Alpine - xdaIIi like that.

ryan47 said:
need help...i'm using htc universal with wm 5.. it seems the top right screen when landscape mode doesnt point what i'm ponting with the stylus, SCREEN CALIBRATE..such as the "x" or "ok" button so i'm often using the "ok" keyboard... so i'm performing hard reset..ohh and after i'm doing hard reset...when it showing the"ALIGN SCREEN" i'm pointing the cross target...and its always continue to ALLIGN SCREEN UNTILL NOW AND ITS BEEN 1 HOUR... CAN ANY BODY HELP ME...PLEASE...
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buddy your touch sensor is gone.....i have the same issue......here's what you need to do:
Option 1: connect your phone to your pc via activesync, explore to windows directory and delete / rename the file called welcome.exe
Option 2: create a blank file on you pc called welcome.not and place it on the root of your storage card.
Option 3: use the MSP remote alignment.
Some people say event turning the device off then on again will kill the align screen but i can't say cause i haven't tried it.
after you're setup and all good, there would still be some applications that require a 'touch' some place....for that, since you (and i) don't have a touch screen anymore, the best thing to do is to get a MOUSE on your ppc
virtual mouse attached below.....just assign a hardware button to it to turn it on or off at will.....i use backlight button for it.....
P.S: was having some probs in uploading so i've renamed the file to .zip. just rename to .rar if you have problems extracting it
enjoy and PM me if you face anymore problems.
cheers

Hi junooni ,
I hv the same problem with my XDA IIs, and now my phone has been sitting in my drawer for 1 months.
Just some question, the above option that you stated above. After going through your option will the phone still be useable. I mean after that can i still used the phone to make a call since i need to use a remote mouse.
And also do i need to use activesync and connect it to my PC everything i need to use my XDA.

try taking out sim & memory card
i was also stuck on that.. this is how i got it solved, take out sim & memory card and to do it you need to take battery out as sim is under battery then hold two softkeys and reset button at same time and press 0 instead of x . now you should be able to go pass the align screen.... hopefully it helped....

Well.. it didn't help to me.. How can I browse windows directory via activesync? Am I so stupid or it's just invisible or what?

How to perform a soft reset on Topaz

Hi,
I needed to do a soft reset, and I'm not able to perform a soft reset has i used to do in my trinity the topaz has 2 holes in the back but the stilus doesn't fit in anyone of them.
right now i remove the batery.
how do you perform a soft reset, using a paper clip?

Remove the stylus
take the back off the topaz
where the stylus lies (bottom left of the back of device) there is a little red button
press that with the stylus and walahhh

Very tricky.

Google is your friend ...
soft reset topaz
.....

franklopez said:
Hi,
I needed to do a soft reset, and I'm not able to perform a soft reset has i used to do in my trinity the topaz has 2 holes in the back but the stilus doesn't fit in anyone of them.
right now i remove the batery.
how do you perform a soft reset, using a paper clip?
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The Topaz is fiddly to soft reset. You don't want to keep opening the back to get to the soft reset red button. This is a pain. I use this programme. It is small, simple and does exactly what it says on the tin. Thanks to Raissak.

Maybe some will not agree wit me, but I don't find the usefulness of soft-resetting applications.
I mean if the phone is usable (i.e. not locked by an application, game etc.) you can soft-reset by pressing the Power button, tapping Yes and then press Power button again.
The problem comes when the phone gets locked by an application.
Here, I cannot soft-reset either using the Power button or using a soft-resetting application.
In this case you still have to open the back cover.

Bothkill said:
Maybe some will not agree wit me, but I don't find the usefulness of soft-resetting applications.
I mean if the phone is usable (i.e. not locked by an application, game etc.) you can soft-reset by pressing the Power button, tapping Yes and then press Power button again.
The problem comes when the phone gets locked by an application.
Here, I cannot soft-reset either using the Power button or using a soft-resetting application.
In this case you still have to open the back cover.
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Very good point. However, I am constantly changing my programs which requires a lot of soft resetting. I am too lazy even to press the Power button and so want a small app to do this for me!!!!

mitsi said:
Very good point. However, I am constantly changing my programs which requires a lot of soft resetting. I am too lazy even to press the Power button and so want a small app to do this for me!!!!
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Yups, me too.....everytime I have to soft-reset after installing an app I like to just press the soft-rest icon on my programs tab and voila!!