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I've been flashing around with english roms to see if it changed the bloody problem with the phone going into a reboot loop if a SD card is inserted.
This didn't fix it, and now there's apparantly no danish rom available from Telia, and since this isn't a Dangaard branded phone I dont have access to the ROMS on www.qtek.dk :-(
If anyone has a nordic rom of sorts, please save me from binning the phone
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If ur phone only reboots with sd card inserted it means something on the sd card is causing it. Format your sd card on a PC and try again.
That's obviously the first thing that came to my mind aswell. I've tried formatting it, I've tried using a different card, etc. No use. Ends up in the reboot loop with a card inserted, boots fine without it. I can then insert the card after the device has booted without problems, but next time WM6 hangs or whatever, same problem.
Have u tried resetting the device by pressing left and right softkey simultaneously and then power on? Alternatively try the clear memory program in the experts folder.
Tried hardresseting it and using the clear memory program yes
Well then it can only be a hw defect. Get it serviced.
I've read others have this problem aswell on some of their phones. I can't really turn it in for service with a non-nordic rom anyway, so if noone has a nordic ROM they can share I'll prolly end up whacking it with a hammer...
Is your device CID unlocked and can you flash any ROM?
Have you tried flashing the Dopod 1.19 ROM?
What exact ROM version was on it (version#)? Did you then down- or upgrade it and to which version? Did you make a backup of the ROM using pdocread as described in the wiki?
I would leave the hammer in ur toolbox for now. I'm pretty sure the thing can be rescued if it is indeed caused by a bad flash.
The problem wasn't caused by a bad flash, I bought it secondhand only about 2 months old, and it's had it straight out of the box. Obviously the seller didn't know anything about it having this quirk...
I tried flashing it with the 1.19 dopod ROM (Had 1.14 nordic ROM initially), still same problem. I did a backup with pdocread, but can't make pdocwrite work, complains it can't write to the filesystem.
Since your device is obviously CID unlocked, it looks feasible to create a flashable file from your pdocread backup. Take a look at my bootloader thread, there is a link to another thread where that is covered.
I personally believe the previous owner CID unlocked your device and maybe it didn't completely work in the way it should. Please make a backup using "bkondisk" and post the IPL (128kB) and the SPL (512kB). I can check these files, perhaps the hw is not properly set up by any of these.
Isn't the IPL and SPL replaced in the standard RUU flashes?
Normally yes, but in ur case maybe it is skipped.
Why don't u dump it so we can check it.
Radio is also interesting.
Have DK ROM - will give
Drop me a mail. Then we an figure out how to get it to you.
This is the file.
ruu_vox_htc_noric_1.15.402.4_4.1.13.37_02.83.90_ship.exe
would be nice if you upload it to XDA developers FTP site
mHumle said:
Drop me a mail. Then we an figure out how to get it to you.
This is the file.
ruu_vox_htc_noric_1.15.402.4_4.1.13.37_02.83.90_ship.exe
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Great! I've sent you a PM, can't get your email from this board
I've now flashed it back to the danish rom, and done some further testing.
I've found out that the phone boots fine with either the simcard OR the SD card inserted, but not both at the same time.
I've also found out that this problem seems to be a problem with 64k simcards, and not 32k simcards.
With a 32k simcard everything is just peachy.
Anyone got suggestions?
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Seems that both 64k sim and sd cards draw too much current.
Looks like a HTC design flaw.
Did u try other sd cards?
Tried another 1gb card, they're both Kingston though. Both work fine in my P4350 / Herald.
Try with another brand and smaller sd card.
And now that you have your nordic rom back on, I'd also request service from HTC.
I had the unofficial wm6 upgrade on my device for a while and i wanted to unlock it so i used the unlocker program provided here and i could not get past the second step it kept giving me this really long erorr every time. I downloaded the real ATT wm6 upgrade and it erorrs out after the phone resets to the color screen boot loader, i tried the SD card method and the bootloader won't boot from the card. The card is formatted in fat 32 and i downloaded the official sd card setup and also tried the cheeimg.nbh method. The phone is stuck with no ability to be flashed, i tried all the versions of wm6 on here and i get stuck at the bootloader every time nothing happens. PLEASE PLEASE can somebody help me? All I want to do is put the factory wm6 on that just came out.
I flashed using SD method but It still read v2.23 so i used the palm Updater, same thing with me it would get to boot loader then stop and I noticed that the Palm update program would crash, I tried several times but same thing happened. I finailly went to another PC installed AS 4.5 got that working then tried the Palm updater again (edited the payloads file) and i guess 3rd time was a charm up date took that time.
Is your device currently functioning at all or??
I would try another PC if you can run the palm updater and remember to edit the payloads.xml file.
If your going to use the Palm Updater take out the SD card and leave it out just to be safe.
vista
yeah my device works but the radio isn't right due to the unlock tool failing and whatever other error the ungrade has cuase by not finishing 5 or 6 times.... I'm using vista, but shouldn't the sd card method work? when i enter bootloading via ptt button and reset it flashes for a nano sec a white loading screen then goes to color screen and sits there, i mean it flash's by super fast you have to be watching it without blinking to see it. you think the pc update will work if i go to a win xp computer?
Dam honestly I dont think the swapping PC will help you I think the Unlock fugged up your device somehow by not finishing the unlock process.
But yes the SD method should work. Im no expert in this but i havent bricked my device yet. You may have to call att, but dont tell them you tried to unlock it nor that you have a hacked WM6. just tell them you tried to flash with the latest up date and my device get stuck...in other words LIE so they send you a new device. If you are able to get a new device from ATT I
would screw up your current one so it doesnt load WM at all so they cant check the Version on it. in any event GL.
Now your sure your SD is fat32 formatted?
format
yes i'm sure it's fat 32, i can prolly get a replacment but it will be a referbished one. Yay then it will have some other problem.... oh well thanks anyway, i shouldn't have tried to do the unlock. don't know why it didn't work everybody else says it was easy.
for sale
Know anybody that might want it, that might fix it? it works just need a radio update i guess. $120.
not off hand no, you can try ebay.
warranty
ok i got a replacement phone coming via warranty, How would i go about messing it up so it won't boot windows????
Hey GUys,
I'm not new to flashing and roms and all that jazz. Had the random stuck in bootloader that wouldn't resolve itself today (using 3.29) Loaded kaisdiagsd.nbh and flashed stock att rom. (probably should have gone right for the spl patch but I was frustrated and needed my phone) Boot loader is now v3.65
Flashed rine, reboot, same issue. Phone will now only load the stock 6.1 att rom from the micro sd. kaisdiagsd.nbh is stuck on loading as for all other roms. I can occassionally get the os to load using mtty. From there tried jumpspl and it would not connect via usb at all.
When in the stock 6.1 os I get the old unrecognized usb device in both xp and vista.
Is there anything else I can do to reflash spl? All i can think of is trying the task 2a, wiping everything and trying to flash from diag but I don't even want to try that route without something solid in place.
The phone is 2 years old, upgrading when the touch pro 2 hits att in aug sept or whenever, but I need my phone.
I have gone through many many many posts. I'm stuck. Any help would be appreciated.
Is there anything else I can do to flash a n
Have you tried to flash the SPL from the SD card? Worth a shot if not.
thanks for getting back, i have tried..multiple. It will just sit on loading as for everything except that damn att rom. i've been going at this for hours and hours. just to make sure, the spl flash will still be named KAISIMG.nbh correct? or has my frustration gotten to me
Yes but make sure you dont put the .nbh. Just kaisimg or it will be kaisimg.nbh.nbh and wont work
haha, yeap. i'm an i.t guy so i have file extensions showing by default so thats golden
I have the stock att rom up and running so the phone is functional, but that said, its the ****y att rom and I'd really like to change that asap., I'm just tired and fed up at this point really
Also for flashing SPL from SD card you need kaisdiag.nbh. Place it on the SD too. I should have told you that first. Its in my 4shared if you dont have it.
just tried it. it is stuck on the loading screen....
Try reading from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433835
Ta
Dave
First of all, thank you to all the modders out there. Next, thanks to everyone who gave a little time to help me with my problem.
A little background: I have an ATT Tilt, it is about 18 months old and for the most part has been functioning great. I have had several different ROMs on here - I probably have had 12 or so ranging from 6.1 to 6.5 and back. I have been using HardSPL for as long as I can remember. The most current ROM I had was a clean 6.5 Build 23003. It was working really well, except for sometimes I couldn't get the phone to come out of sleep mode and I would have to soft reset. It started happening more and more frequently, so I decided to reflash to Ultimate-X2.V6 -23004. As I was reading through the thread, he recommended HardSPL 3.34 and Radio 1.71.xxx. No problem I said, so I went off to flash 3.34 to replace my 3.56 SPL. I was using a 1.65 radio, but I never got the chance to upgrade.
So thats where the problem starts. When I try to flash the 3.34 SPL (following the instructions and using JumpSPL) it flashes, but then the phone doesn't reboot. I figure the SPL wiped out something, so following the recommendations in the Ultimate X2 thread, I attempt to flash the ATT Stock ROM. I start the phone up in bootloader mode (the bootloader still says 3.56 - interesting eh) and then flash the ATT Stock ROM. The ROM installs but the phone never reboots...
I have tried flashing Radios and other ROMs and redoing the SPL, but the phone just doesn't boot. I can reliably get to the bootloader screen, but it still says 3.56. I tried following the Wiki for "Kaiser Stuck in Bootloader" and flashing ROMs or SPL that way, but it still doesn't work.
I would also love to give you guys that diagnostic information (I should have done this last night) because I was able to view it, but now when I try to boot KAISDIAG.nbh from the memory card it just sits at "Loading...".
I have tried just about every step of different ways of flashing, different SPLs, etc. If there is anything anyone can recommend or try I am more than willing.
Let me know if you need more information or I need to clear anything up.
Again, I appreciate everyone taking time to read this and offer up their expertise.
Thanks,
OutrightLie
Only thing i can suggest is flashing 3.56 again with th SD card. Then 3.34 with the SD card. Or have you tried that already?
Just wondering... do you removed SIM card before flashing your new HardSPL?
I *think* I have tried that.
Does JumpSPL do anything other than put the phone in Bootloader mode? Or is all I have to do, just copy the *.nbh to the memory card, rename it to KAISIMG.nbh and then let it go. If JumpSPL does something more, I may be in trouble because I can't get to an OS.
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Just wondering... do you removed SIM card before flashing your new HardSPL?
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I never have. Not with roms radios or SPL. I know its recomended but i have never had a issue with that.
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Just wondering... do you removed SIM card before flashing your new HardSPL?
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I did remove it the first time, and a few times after that while trying stuff. The first time - for sure. Other times, it was in or out while I was just playing around with stuff. Hopefully something I did subsequently didn't make the problem worse.
Are there any steps I can take to if I did leave the SIM card in during a troubleshooting flash that screwed it up?
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I *think* I have tried that.
Does JumpSPL do anything other than put the phone in Bootloader mode? Or is all I have to do, just copy the *.nbh to the memory card, rename it to KAISIMG.nbh and then let it go. If JumpSPL does something more, I may be in trouble because I can't get to an OS.
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From SD. You will need kaisdiag.nbh and then rename Spl to kaisimg.nbh. Have those both on root of card.
smokestack76 said:
From SD. You will need kaisdiag.nbh and then rename Spl to kaisimg.nbh. Have those both on root of card.
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I will try that. I need a memory card reader here at work, so this may have to wait until I get home. The only roadblock I see, is right now I have just KAISDIAG on the memory card and it gets stuck at "Loading..." when I attempt to boot. It didn't do this last night, but this morning it seems get stuck there.
OutrightLie said:
I will try that. I need a memory card reader here at work, so this may have to wait until I get home. The only roadblock I see, is right now I have just KAISDIAG on the memory card and it gets stuck at "Loading..." when I attempt to boot. It didn't do this last night, but this morning it seems get stuck there.
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I have one in my share folder. Might wanna get it and format the card..remember it has to be fat32 and replace the kaisdiag and SPL just to be safe.
I will give it a shot when I get home tonight - unless I can find a memory card reader before then.
Thanks!
Follow exactely this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=498320
Note your sdcard should be formated FAT32
I just got home. I copied the KAISDIAG.nbh and the 3.56 bootloader (called it KAISIMG.nbh) to the memory card after formatting it to FAT32. It attempts to load the KAISDIAG, but stops at "Loading...". I tried both a 2GB SD Card and an 8GB card, still no luck.
Any other things I can try?
I am in deep trouble here and could really use some help please. My ATT Fuze is not being detected by any PC and i have tried everything from different wires to changing everything on the fuze it self. Now my only option is to exchange it but i don't have the original OS because i am using NRGs Rom and hard SPL it about 4 months ago. Now to my question, is there anyway i can revert it to stock ROM and SPL with micro sdhc card? I need some steps please because i cant find a way to do it. Would i have to change the OS and the SPL to return if there is anyway please let me know.
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I am in deep trouble here and could really use some help please. My ATT Fuze is not being detected by any PC and i have tried everything from different wires to changing everything on the fuze it self. Now my only option is to exchange it but i don't have the original OS because i am using NRGs Rom and hard SPL it about 4 months ago. Now to my question, is there anyway i can revert it to stock ROM and SPL with micro sdhc card? I need some steps please because i cant find a way to do it. Would i have to change the OS and the SPL to return if there is anyway please let me know.
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First, what OS are you running on your PC.
Second, have you disabled/Enabled "enable faster data" in Settings/Connections/USB to PC?
Third, Have you deleted the partnership and tried to reestablish it?
Doesn't seem to be a warranty issue.
Fuze Reply
First of all thanks for your reply.
I have tried it on 4 different computer but unfortunately same result on vista and XP, on my phone i am using NRG july version rom.
I have disabled and enabled faster data in but doesn't seem to matter.
I tried everything, i reinstalled windows mobile device but doesn't seem to matter. When i ended the partnership it wasnt being detected after it or before it.
Cant i exchange it because its a faulty phone? Also can u please tell me if i can revert it to att stock rom and spl with a micro sdcard because i am going to buy a card reader. I really don't want to toss this phone and waste all that money please help!
darkreborn said:
First of all thanks for your reply.
I have tried it on 4 different computer but unfortunately same result on vista and XP, on my phone i am using NRG july version rom.
I have disabled and enabled faster data in but doesn't seem to matter.
I tried everything, i reinstalled windows mobile device but doesn't seem to matter. When i ended the partnership it wasnt being detected after it or before it.
Cant i exchange it because its a faulty phone? Also can u please tell me if i can revert it to att stock rom and spl with a micro sdcard because i am going to buy a card reader. I really don't want to toss this phone and waste all that money please help!
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Yes, you can revert via SD card.
Do Radio and ROM first, then do stock SPL last.
Rename each RAPHIMG.NBH (one at a time) on a FAT32 formated card 2gb or smaller.
Go into bootloader mode and it should flash from there.
I would test your USB connection after you flash back to stock ROM before you flash the stock SPL to see if it may have fixed your issue.
Huh
Thanks a lot man!
Now the hard part , why do u say a card 2gb or smaller?
So i can revort the SPL with a micro sdhc card also? can u tell me where i can find this stuff, i am really sorry for the trouble and would really appreciate it if you can tell me step by step because i am a noob
Hopefully ATT exchange it for the usb issues , gotta check with them after this. Thanks
darkreborn said:
Thanks a lot man!
Now the hard part , why do u say a card 2gb or smaller?
So i can revort the SPL with a micro sdhc card also? can u tell me where i can find this stuff, i am really sorry for the trouble and would really appreciate it if you can tell me step by step because i am a noob
Hopefully ATT exchange it for the usb issues , gotta check with them after this. Thanks
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I've heard that anything over 2 gb will cause an issue but I have done it from an 8gb card.
Start here for issues encountered.
Basically once you find your ROM Radio and SPL, extract the files so you can see the .NBH files for each.
1. Take the ROM file and rename it "RAPHIMG.nbh " without quotes.
2. Place it in the root of your storage card and enter bootloader mode (Volume Down + Reset), the phone will read the image file and begin to load it.
Do this for each file but wait until the first file has loaded.
Radio.nbh will be renamed to RAPHIMG.nbh
SPL.nbh will be renamed RAPHIMG.nbh
As one is done loading, remove it from starage card and put the next one on and repeat step 2.
Another thread regarding SPL.
I hope this helps you and sorry I don't have the time to walk you through it.
Just read first then you'll know what to expect.
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I've heard that anything over 2 gb will cause an issue but I have done it from an 8gb card.
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my best guess is just in case the bootloader doesn't have drivers for SDHC cards... my x51v has drivers for SDHC in WM, but flashing requires SD cards because the bootloader doesn't read SDHC
revert SPL or no?
Hey thanks bruce!
One more question, should i revert the SPL even tho i changed the radio and os. When i go to ROM version it says 1.95 but is that the SPL? Also you think ATT will take the phone back with the phone not syncing reason or do i have to make up some other stuff up? O btw the 8gb kingston card worked fine for reverting it and it still doesnt detect the phone
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Hey thanks bruce!
One more question, should i revert the SPL even tho i changed the radio and os. When i go to ROM version it says 1.95 but is that the SPL? Also you think ATT will take the phone back with the phone not syncing reason or do i have to make up some other stuff up? O btw the 8gb kingston card worked fine for reverting it and it still doesnt detect the phone
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To be safe I would revert the SPL as well.
The 1.95 is the ROM build base.
You want to revert back to stock SPL 1.90.
I can't second guess what AT&T will cover or not but you may want to "further your cause"....
Best of luck!!!
in my experience (my UK t-mob vario is back at repair right now) - DONT revert the SPL if you cant do it from the USB.
Obvisously you have a different setup to me, but when i tried to revert my phone to stock for exactly the same fault (no usb sync, regardless of pc or cable / phone rom, state etc etc) i managed to get the phone to refuse to boot due to a spl / rom difference. As i couldnt load from usb - i couldnt flash anything new, and as i had managed to overwrite hard spl - i couldnt flash what i wanted from the SD card! (if i could get the usb to work, i could fix it all - but as that was the problem i had to send it off fubar)
For some reason (god knows why!) it appears that t-mob are repairing my phone under warrenty despite the spl error but i wouldnt advise getting yourself in the same situation, as i was 100% expecting it to come straight back to me!
My personal advice is send it off with the correct rom, radio & splash screens (and remove security unlock if required) so the phone looks stock - the only difference will be the spl version. They probably wont notice!
1.90 or 1.95
Thx for the info guys, my new phone is coming and it took me about 2 to finally on its way. About the SPL, mine says 1.90 and that was when i first did the hard spl to change roms. What is the stock SPL 1.90 or 1.95? at loading it hows me 1.90 olinex i think...also i can change it if needed with my 8gb sdhc card or no?
I had a problem with my PC not detecting my fuze a few weeks ago. I found out it was my new firewall blocking the connection. I disabled the firewall and it worked like normal.
If it were me i would try to connect again after you flash the stock rom. If there was something wrong with the usb it still wont work. If it connects to activesync the maybe it was your ROM, or something else.
Just a suggestion