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Hello, got my Touch Pro ago 2 or 3 weeks. Lately I noticed a rapid decreasing runtime...
I had the phone the whole night (~8hours) connected to the power-adapter
and this morning around 8am it said the battery is completely full. Around 6pm (less then 12 hours) it automatically turned off.
First I had bluetooth or the weather-update under suspicion, but it was all deactivated. Then I turned of anything that would need a connection to the internet (and even with that sporadically on it shouldn't be empty after 12 hours!)... helped nothing. The last thing I thought what might could be the reason was the "SensorLock"-utility. It locks the phone after it goes into standby, nice if you keep it in the leather-bag and you get calls. But even uninstalling that prog didn't help.
What do I do now? If I send it back to Amazon it takes weeks to get a new battery or phone (German amazon sucks). What about HTC itself? Do they have some battery-replacement guarantee?
How much did you use the phone? Where you texting a lot or calling alot? I text about 100-200 sent messages a day, and my phone lasts about the same amount of time.
djcaston said:
How much did you use the phone? Where you texting a lot or calling alot? I text about 100-200 sent messages a day, and my phone lasts about the same amount of time.
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Nope, no phonecalls (beside one short incomming call) or shortmessages at all. Used it just 30 mins for playing music out of the loudspeaker and to get waked in the morning by the alarm. +300hours standby should'nt be 12 hours if I just use some progs and the display...
The best thing to do is cycle your charge. Leave the phone on until it shuts off and cannot turn on. Then recharge in the off state. Do this and your battery will last longer.
Also, don't leave your phone charging for longer then necessary. I've killed many a phone batteries this way. It should be come general practice to fully charge your battery before you do anything with the phone upon initial receipt. Most phone batteries come with a partial charge, but you should always follow the instruction manual.
I'm not 100% sure, but don't most modern high-end electronics have technology in them that make sure that the battery is not "over-charged" so to speak?
my t-mobile mda, nor my 8525 didnt...
or maybe i was just the victim of two faulty batteries on different phones.
Wow, another battery thread....
Could you please, please use the search option or browse through 4 pages before making a new thread??
Time for a lock.....
i was getting really crappy battery life ( i have a fuze) and this is what i realized:
- romeo's rom kills the battery on the at&t fuze
- S2U2 also kills your battery
-Touch flo is not great for your battery either
i've flashed NATF's rom, and disabled s2u2 (still running tf3d) and i still have about 40-50 % battery life after a full day (medium usage)
good luck
omar
use search...
there are apps that run while your device is off
also, things like 3g/hspda run the battery down quicker
and batteries cant be overcarged these days why would they invent cradles if they wanted us to let the device fully run out before charging again?
For two days in a row I have charged my Fuze before going to bed. I made sure it was fully charged, pulled it off the charger, went to bed, in the morning the phone was on it's last bar. 8hrs of sitting on my desk and the phone fully discharges, something is not right here.
Run Adv Config, & turn 3G off when not using 3G.. It's almost as bad as WiFi... otherwise use a taskmanager and see who is using the CPU....shutdown all programs too when the phone is really not being used. I had the Wizard / Hermes and both were crummy on the batteries...
I do have to admit though that the Fuze does seem to consume more battery already....even though I know I play with it since it's new...lol
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Also, don't leave your phone charging for longer then necessary. I've killed many a phone batteries this way. It should be come general practice to fully charge your battery before you do anything with the phone upon initial receipt. Most phone batteries come with a partial charge, but you should always follow the instruction manual.
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I charged the battery to full state around 5 times after I got it, thats not the prob. Beside: it shouldn't make a difference if you let it connected to the charger, its LiIon and not a NiCd-battery.
It can't be that the battery dies after 2 weeks of use, even in a worst-case scenario! If, HTC is ****ed.
noellenchris said:
Run Adv Config, & turn 3G off when not using 3G.. It's almost as bad as WiFi... otherwise use a taskmanager and see who is using the CPU....shutdown all programs too when the phone is really not being used. I had the Wizard / Hermes and both were crummy on the batteries...
I do have to admit though that the Fuze does seem to consume more battery already....even though I know I play with it since it's new...lol
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As I said earlier, I had the HTC Tytn before, and it really had a standby-time of around 300hours, so if I didn't use it and just carried in my jacket and received here and there some messages or calls it lasted around 3-4 days.
But the TouchPro now only lasts 12 hours "just in my jacket"?? Hello?
And: yes UMTS(3G) makes the battery-time smaller, yup. But e.g. from 350hours to 300 hours, not from 350hours to 12! Even if a GPRS/3G connection is established, as long no data is transfered the connection should, beside some IP-data to keep the connection alive, not make a much less battery-life... again think about the 350hours.
Delphi said:
As I said earlier, I had the HTC Tytn before, and it really had a standby-time of around 300hours, so if I didn't use it and just carried in my jacket and received here and there some messages or calls it lasted around 3-4 days.
But the TouchPro now only lasts 12 hours "just in my jacket"?? Hello?
And: yes UMTS(3G) makes the battery-time smaller, yup. But e.g. from 350hours to 300 hours, not from 350hours to 12! Even if a GPRS/3G connection is established, as long no data is transfered the connection should, beside some IP-data to keep the connection alive, not make a much less battery-life... again think about the 350hours.
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yes, that sucks. i never had any GPRS/3G connection, just enabled and the phone was dead after 12 hours or even earlier.
but since i disabled UMTS my battery lasts a week and longer, im really happy with the device now (but its annoying that i have to enable 3G everytime i need it)
Well in my eyes it is not normal, or if then mis-manufactured stuff.
I would like to know where the difference between the TyTn and the TouchPro is (in case of the UMTS-part) if it was before possible to get a week standby-time and now it dies after a half day.
Oh and btw.: where can I turn off UMTS? In the tytn with Schaps ROM i could do it in the comm-manager.
In the TouchPro I only have buttons for Phone, Wifi, Bluetooth, Flightmode, and DirectPush (what I can't use... no idea how. Works only with MS Exchange-server, huh?)
I know that it says 300 hours, but you'd be foolish to actually expect that. Those conditions would be pretty much not touching the phone, with no programs running, no calls, texts, updates (e-mail, weather, etc), in order to acheive 300 hours.
I'm on a stock AT&T rom albeit with more tweaks than I could possibly imagine with moderate usage (a few phone calls, dozen or so texts, an hour or two of surfing, push e-mail on two accounts updated hourly, GPS for about an hour, maybe more that I can't think of) and I hit about two days.
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I'm on a stock AT&T rom albeit with more tweaks than I could possibly imagine with moderate usage (a few phone calls, dozen or so texts, an hour or two of surfing, push e-mail on two accounts updated hourly, GPS for about an hour, maybe more that I can't think of) and I hit about two days.
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If i was using all that stuff, theres no way i could get 2 days...im on a stock rom too but i get about one day, maybe its because i havent done any tweaks yet? any bettery tweaks or any other useful tweaks you could point me to? i kno i saw some around here but i tried searching and couldnt really find anything
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I know that it says 300 hours, but you'd be foolish to actually expect that. Those conditions would be pretty much not touching the phone, with no programs running, no calls, texts, updates (e-mail, weather, etc), in order to acheive 300 hours.
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Well, yes. But not only 12 hours without any running program and without any calls and dataconnections.
I am getting absolutely horrible battery life on my MT4G. I took it off the charger at 9:30am, I have since made one 5 min phone call and sent maybe 5 texts, and checked a couple emails that i just deleted, other then that screen has been off the whole time, its now 4:40 and im at 35% battery. On my Vibrant with this sort of use I would still be in the 70s.
Under accounts and sync:
facebook updating every hr (just changed it to every 4 hrs)
google syncing just gmail, no contacts or calender
news every 4 hrs
stocks not syncing
t-mobile syncing (tried turning off but it just turns itself on again)
qik video chat syncing
weather every 3 hrs
yahoo syncing
Are you on wifi or 3g? Brightness? Screen timeout? I have an N1 and the battery life is pretty poor so I'm just curious apples to apples in terms of what else you have turned on.
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Are you on wifi or 3g? Brightness? Screen timeout? I have an N1 and the battery life is pretty poor so I'm just curious apples to apples in terms of what else you have turned on.
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I leave 3g on but i always left it on on the vibrant as well, brightness is at 20%, screen times out within a couple seconds
wifi, gps and bluetooth off
I get great battery life. Then again I am coming from a Vibrant, my battery was horrible on that device. I take it off the charger at around 8 am and by 6 pm I still have 50%
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ever thought about turning off 4G? You don't alway have to have it on.
I get around 12-15 hours with heavy usage. My G2 usually gets 15-24 hours.
I saw this article the other day. I was thinking about trying it tomorrow.
http://androidspin.com/2010/11/06/double-your-battery-life-on-htc-droid-incredible-sprint-evo-google-nexus-one-and-possibly-others/
Don't bother with that battery charger hack, it's not going to do anything but waste your time...
I just installed SetCPU on my phone just for fun and have found that it recognizes a few lower clock cycles...I added a profile to lower the CPU when the screen is off otherwise at 1024-245 On Demand and I'm still plugging away at 20% battery when I would normaly be on the charger by now...could be a fluke, but so far so good...I'll keep this for a few days to see how it does.
oh, one other note, my battery life has continued to improve with every charge...the first few days I couldn't get through a full day and now I have battrey to spare...just had to get it conditioned with a few charges I guess.
I let the phone completely die last night and then charged it and at midnight I unplugged it. At 8:30 this morning when I left for work it was at 94% which was great but from 8:30 until now it has dropped to 83% and ive had one 3 min phone call and deleted some text messages, no browsing web, no listening to music, nothing. It seems like the phone will go through the 100-95% slowly but after that its in a marathon to get to 0%
I don't know how you guys are getting so many hours daily on heavy use. I get 7-8 hours on heavy texting, some web browsing and about an hour plus on the phone almost every night. 9 hours would stretch it and it would be on 10%.
I have my brightness all the way down and all the way down is just 11. Screen times out in 2 minutes and I have power saving on. I did the battery thing 3 times where I would let it go down to less then 14% or so then charge it fully without taking it off charge. Hopefully it improves as days go by, I'm just tired of carrying my charger to work.
myTouch4G (Glacier)
Down to 69% now at 11:15, have made no phone calls or texts since then, have just downloaded opera mobile but havent even played with it...lol this is riduculous
I can recommend that you guys take a look at what might be pinging the CPU. Watchdog (Lite) is great for this task. You can have it alert you when an app exceeds a preset threshold for CPU usage. Some apps just go rogue on you like Palin from time to time.
I've also noticed that there's wide variability in terms of how apps go into either idle or background states. Some apps will go into idle only if you hit the back key to go back to the home screen and will enter a background state (more active) if you hit the home instead. I've also noticed that the free, ad-supported apps require more CPU time. That's right. Hitting Google's ad servers, at least for some apps, and scrolling those ads, requires more CPU time than other apps, which do the same. I don't know whether to fault the devs in this case when coding for the ad retrievals or not. Just some things to consider.
I just got mine. I came from a Blackberry 8900 and an old 2g iPhone. Battery life on both of those was significantly better. I could talk for 8 hours a day on the BB and it would last until midnight-1am or so. The iPhone would only last until 10pm.
Using the MT4G, my battery life is REALLY bad compared to these other two devices. I can get about 5.5 hours of continuous talk time, tested yesterday on a conference call for work. But even with only calling for about an hour and some basic email checking, I can't go past 6pm without putting the phone on the charger.
Wifi is off, screen at 50%. Someone please make a big fat 2800mah battery for this thing. I use this thing for work, and I make over 4000 mins a month of phone calls. It's really annoying to have to plug it in whenever I have the chance.
im getting roughly about 15-17 hours and im using it (camera, blogging, facebook uploading)
this destroys the EVO i had
Heavy usage, I'll get around there, 7-8 hours...regular usage gets me around 20 hours..I'm using setcpu w/ profiles..
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did you have similar battery problems with your old phone while at work?
i notice my nexus 1's battery is significantly worse when i'm at work since getting a signal is a bit spotty (35th floor) so it keeps searching around. when i'm at home the battery lasts literally twice as long while idle.
dinan said:
did you have similar battery problems with your old phone while at work?
i notice my nexus 1's battery is significantly worse when i'm at work since getting a signal is a bit spotty (35th floor) so it keeps searching around. when i'm at home the battery lasts literally twice as long while idle.
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Yes definitely right about that. I have better battery usage when I'm off work. My department at work is in the basement. So the signal switches on and off the whole time I'm there.
myTouch4G (Glacier)
dinan said:
did you have similar battery problems with your old phone while at work?
i notice my nexus 1's battery is significantly worse when i'm at work since getting a signal is a bit spotty (35th floor) so it keeps searching around. when i'm at home the battery lasts literally twice as long while idle.
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I think I only brought my G2 into work a couple times so cant really comment on that but in the 3 months ive owned the vibrant, if i used the phone a lot during the day....i mean play games, texts, web, etc..id leave with percentage in the 50s, normally in the 70s, at 4 today i was in the 30s with the mytouch with barely doing anything, since i want it to last until the night i just threw it on the charger. it shows I have full signal (4th floor by window)
My wife just got an mt4g (I have a nexus one). I've noticed that her battery life seems to be just over half what mine is, and I actually use mine more!
When I looked at her Battery Usage display, Android OS was near the top with almost 2h CPU time after being unplugged for 6h. For comparison, on my nexus one, CPU time for Android OS is 4m13s after almost 8h.
Any good way to break that number down more and find out the source of this crazy battery usage?
I don't understand why somedays my phone and battery will last all day plus some. Then other days battery is worthless (only 9hrs or so) . My routine is the same day to day. I restart my phone every morning when I pull it off the charger. I realize apps and sync etc have affects on battery life. I'm not a newb. Example today phone came off charger 7am, it is now 10:30pm and I have 42% left. This happens one or two days a week. Other days by 6pm I need a charger. Never had a "moody" battery (phone).
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I think your usage is different..Although you think you always do the same thing but actually don't..I have the same experience..I was curious for the first time but later i found that day i disable my data and phone works on gsm not wcdma.Also may be different day different apps launched
Do you notice any difference on how often the device is awake? That is what makes the difference from what I've noticed.
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I don't understand why somedays my phone and battery will last all day plus some. Then other days battery is worthless (only 9hrs or so) . My routine is the same day to day. I restart my phone every morning when I pull it off the charger. I realize apps and sync etc have affects on battery life. I'm not a newb. Example today phone came off charger 7am, it is now 10:30pm and I have 42% left. This happens one or two days a week. Other days by 6pm I need a charger. Never had a "moody" battery (phone).
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From my experience, the battery life does vary as you mentioned. The best way to test is to turn off sync to minimize the amount of battery drain variation. This might tell you if the battery is consistently following along with your issue. Also turn WiFi off if possible. Hope this helps.
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From my experience, the battery life does vary as you mentioned. The best way to test is to turn off sync to minimize the amount of battery drain variation. This might tell you if the battery is consistently following along with your issue. Also turn WiFi off if possible. Hope this helps.
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The thing is you also have to keep tabs of the apps that you use, most of them BTW don't close/exit completely. (Also abattery drain)
The battery stats are the problem. Seem inconsistent.
How about the possibility that you're in different locations from day to day, and some hours of the day, your signal may be poor, making the phone look for a better signal, draining battery?
My Best Guess is radio modem SUX
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The thing is you also have to keep tabs of the apps that you use, most of them BTW don't close/exit completely. (Also abattery drain)
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This is true. one day I woke up to find my battery completely drained although it was supposed to be idling, I removed a couple of apps I installed the day before that I thought was the culprit and it didn't happen again.
download WatchDog its an app that watches your other apps for insane amounts of memory use and battery drain. Should find the culprit app thats causing this random drain
link to app: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.zomut.watchdoglite&feature=search_result
a lot of people dont believe in task killers cause they truley arent needed and to the normal user can cause more harm then good but i like the fact knowing if im not using it, its not running.
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First day I got 1d 8h something with 8% left. Next day I got 1d 0h 8m with about 35% left. But I think its deteriorating day by day, not sure yet why this is happening although I made no changes since day 1, data connected all the time or WiFi connected, email sync default settings of 15min, default settings for friendstream, weather, calendar and other widgets.
One more thing I realized, even if you turn off your phone, it is like hibernate, the apps still remain in memory, so I restarted, then I had cleared memory and the battery performance seems improved, still have to confirm this, once I complete I'll post back.
But even now I am getting more than a day, at least 24 hours with the same settings as above.
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So I agree with the variation, like the poster 90teggy, even I've been on the same routine, but the battery acts differently.
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How about the possibility that you're in different locations from day to day, and some hours of the day, your signal may be poor, making the phone look for a better signal, draining battery?
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+1
also explains why person A and B have very different results for the "same usage"... where they live/work etc will have different signal strength. I am lucky, I have pretty good signal both at work and home, so my phone doesn't have to churn thru as much battery.
Get yourself a Anker battery and you your problem with fast draining will be over..
Check this:
I realized that battery drains faster when carried in pocket or somewhat is dynamic state. When I keep my phone flat on a surface, it will stay there hours together without a single % drop in battery.
Only if I carry along, move it, etc. the battery seems to drain.
Just try to observe this and confirm it to me.
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Check this:
I realized that battery drains faster when carried in pocket or somewhat is dynamic state. When I keep my phone flat on a surface, it will stay there hours together without a single % drop in battery.
Only if I carry along, move it, etc. the battery seems to drain.
Just try to observe this and confirm it to me.
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As you move around it's probably seeing & trying to lock on to different transmitters which can cause increased drain.
Different transmitters?
No, its just when its in Pocket, either you sit or stand, drain will be considerable.
Same you keep it on a flat surface, it stays at the same %
My Sensation gets great battery life most of the time, but in relation to your comment about putting it in your pocket - sometimes when I walk around with my Sensation in the pocket of some shorts (where it can swing around a bit more than in jeans) the next time I take it out of my pocket it's very hot and seems to have frozen up or be in some kind of reboot loop. This has happened to me five or six times ... with different pairs of shorts
Get the battery pack for Htc Evo, root your phone and delete batterystat.bin. Worked for me.
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Different transmitters?
No, its just when its in Pocket, either you sit or stand, drain will be considerable.
Same you keep it on a flat surface, it stays at the same %
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The WiFi & mobile signals will be weaker when in your pocket because your body will block them a bit. That will increase drain but to what extent is debatable
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On my stock Sensation battery drain on idle with display off is 200mA average.
Barely lasts a day on full charge with light use.
On my HTC HD2, which is rooted with Android rom installed, drain on idle is around 40mA average. It can last two days in idle and easily all day with light use.
Something is draining Sensation battery hard. Can't find what. No matter if phone sits stationary or moving in my belt pouch.
I suspect some TMos apps running in background.
How is the battery life on the MT? If it's poor (stock), have you found a good utility app to help it last longer?
I usually get about 24 hours of battery life on mine. I have gps turned off most of the time and I'm on wifi a lot with light to moderate usage. I did notice that if I have the GPS on, that the battery does go down much quicker. I assume that's because it keeps trying to get a location even when I'm indoors and it's having a hard time.
Although, I've read a lot of people complain about poor battery life so YMMV.
It depends greatly on whether data is working or not. Usually, I'll have around 90% battery 2 hours into the day. But if data isn't working, like today, I'll go down to 80% in as little as 20 minutes.
Usually, I'll have around 20% after 12 hours. Been giving it a charge in the afternoon, and it hasn't been an issue.
I use Juice defender, and it does wonders for my battery life.
I've found battery life to be comparable to other Android devices; with effective battery management, mine gets me through the work day. My wife has the Optimus V and I have coworkers, one with a Droid X, the other with an Evo; my battery life is no better and no worse than any of those devices. With any smartphone you're going to have to turn off unused radios and turn down screen brightness if you're going to be away from a charger for a long period of time.
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Heavy use is the real killer on the Triumph. With just the screen on (minimal brightness) and network on (bad coverage), I can drain the battery by about 1% every minute. And that's no exaggeration -- Battery Indicator Pro keeps track for me. I'm working on a spreadsheet to help chart battery drain during different scenarios.
Thanks for all the replies. Basically what I was expecting, but like to have confirmation
Now to find a good place to buy one. Will probably hit Bestbuy due to return convenience and policies.
Edit: Purchased at Bestbuy, and actually ran into Sprint rep who had one I could look at. We exchanged a few geek tips.
One thing I noticed: I have an LG brand microUSB charger, and the phone would not charge from it when turned on, tho it would charge when turned off. I had an older Motorola microUSB charger and it works fine either phone on or off.
I am getting a whole day of battery life with heavy use. I turned off the background data and turned off all sync. Using the email client with one hour pull with imap instead of the gmail client... Couldn't be happier with the phone...
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Yeah, I have also found that turning off sync can get you through the day with less battery used.
Depending on how much I use the Triumph, I can run the battery down in about 2-3 hours (with constant use) or have it run all day long and in to the next day (if I only use it for 1 or 2 short calls during the day.)
My motorola Triumph's Battery Life
I have waited months to post my reviews. I had a Virgin Mobile Intercept and upgraded to this the day after it came out.
Battery life is HORRENDOUS. Not sure how anyone can possibly say its "OK". Sure if you are sitting at home or in the office all day, You can continually have it plugged in and charged. My lighter socket doesn't work in my car ATM so thank GOD I don't drive a lot, and for long periods, I would be SCREWED.
Essentially yes if you turn off GPS, Wi-Fi, Syncing your emails and such, etc etc, then your battery will last longer. But what good is the phone then? I have owned many other androids and they worked for almost a full day with moderate usage with ALL of those things turned on and sync'ing (including Latitude and automatic check-ins). I have lost all of that. I have google talk catching up for hours-old conversations whenever I hit a wifi spot that's saved in my phone.
Juice Defender was my "solution" But it has rendered my phone practically useless for anything besides just having a phone handy when needed. No apps, no moe use of all the bells and whistles that I loved about android in the first place!
I am dealing with it. It just sucks. Sure there are other smartphones with similar issues, and poor battery life, but this has to be possibly the worst or one of the worst. It just is highly unfortunate that this is the case.
Also: Bluetooth syncing works 50% of the time. Constantly have to turn it off and on to get my jawbone(s) to sync. God forbid you answer a call and want to switch over to bluetooth. In those cases it works about 20% of the time.
This is not a good phone for people who are out and about all day or drivers of any sort, unless you have it plugged in the entire day. Forget about using it as a GPS unless its plugged in either, that will drain you battery to 0% in less than an hour.
People say this is due to poor design and rushed to market with crappy signal reception and GPS reception, same with bluetooth antennae. This might be the case, I ALSO have mine suddenly have NO BARS for no reason and I have to power off and on the phone to get a signal back.
ALSO half the time I am out and about and need data connection over 3G, even with bars I get NOTHING. It's very frustrating not to be able to use the phone for what I want to use it for.
I will be getting rid of this puppy as soon as possible and I would do it sooner if I didn't want to avoid a 2year contract.
The good part about the phone is it is MUCH faster and responsive than the Intercept and Optimus. Much better camera (has a flash - FINALLY!) and HD video. Front facing camera is nice to have but of course weaksauce in the resolution dept. Overall A+ for effort, D- in execution.
kneel said:
I have waited months to post my reviews. I had a Virgin Mobile Intercept and upgraded to this the day after it came out.
Battery life is HORRENDOUS. Not sure how anyone can possibly say its "OK". Sure if you are sitting at home or in the office all day, You can continually have it plugged in and charged. My lighter socket doesn't work in my car ATM so thank GOD I don't drive a lot, and for long periods, I would be SCREWED.
Essentially yes if you turn off GPS, Wi-Fi, Syncing your emails and such, etc etc, then your battery will last longer. But what good is the phone then? I have owned many other androids and they worked for almost a full day with moderate usage with ALL of those things turned on and sync'ing (including Latitude and automatic check-ins). I have lost all of that. I have google talk catching up for hours-old conversations whenever I hit a wifi spot that's saved in my phone.
Juice Defender was my "solution" But it has rendered my phone practically useless for anything besides just having a phone handy when needed. No apps, no moe use of all the bells and whistles that I loved about android in the first place!
I am dealing with it. It just sucks. Sure there are other smartphones with similar issues, and poor battery life, but this has to be possibly the worst or one of the worst. It just is highly unfortunate that this is the case.
Also: Bluetooth syncing works 50% of the time. Constantly have to turn it off and on to get my jawbone(s) to sync. God forbid you answer a call and want to switch over to bluetooth. In those cases it works about 20% of the time.
This is not a good phone for people who are out and about all day or drivers of any sort, unless you have it plugged in the entire day. Forget about using it as a GPS unless its plugged in either, that will drain you battery to 0% in less than an hour.
People say this is due to poor design and rushed to market with crappy signal reception and GPS reception, same with bluetooth antennae. This might be the case, I ALSO have mine suddenly have NO BARS for no reason and I have to power off and on the phone to get a signal back.
ALSO half the time I am out and about and need data connection over 3G, even with bars I get NOTHING. It's very frustrating not to be able to use the phone for what I want to use it for.
I will be getting rid of this puppy as soon as possible and I would do it sooner if I didn't want to avoid a 2year contract.
The good part about the phone is it is MUCH faster and responsive than the Intercept and Optimus. Much better camera (has a flash - FINALLY!) and HD video. Front facing camera is nice to have but of course weaksauce in the resolution dept. Overall A+ for effort, D- in execution.
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This post is harsh. But I agree with most of it. Overall, the Triumph fits with a prepaid phone reputation: niggly bugs, poor battery life, poor service quality when compared to a higher end device.
The main problem here is that you'll be totally dependent on the community for real bug fixes. Every phone has bugs. But the bugs on the Triumph affect core usability and are on a totally different level. I would not count on Motorola to fix these bugs. If you're the tinkering type and a patient person, this may be worth it. But anyone who thinks that they are getting "something for free" is sadly mistaken. You are paying $25 a month for cell phone service, which is great . But all these bugs will make you pay with your time. How? Time looking for new roms, apps to fix bad battery life, time wondering why the touchscreen response is poor, time working around the bugs in every day life. If that is fun to you (and it may be for most people on this forum), fine. But you are paying with your time. Lesson learned is not to be so quick to fall for the specs. The company offering the phone and their track record of pushing out updates should play a large part in my decision next time.
I usually have WiFi turned on all day, and sync. I use the phone on my breaks and at lunch. When I get home I troll forums heavily and watch netflix occasionally. Not to mention Pandora for at least an hour per day. The battery will last if I dont plug it in until the next morning. Bottom line is that a lot of these issues can be fixed with quality software, and a battery cycle of 18-24 hours is something I can definitly live with. Compared to my Ascend, the Triumph is soooo much better in battery dept.
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Battery issues
I am not sure why a lot of people have issues with battery, I unplugged my phone over 7 hrs ago and right now have 57% battery left, now before you hang your head at this look at my usage:
-Over 1 hour of talktime out of 7 hours.
-50+ texts back and forth
-10+ emails back and forth
-5-10 youtube videos
-5-10 pages of web browsing
-dl and install apps
-facebook at least 2-3 times every hour
And some more fiddling around so basically I have been on the phone non stop for 7 hours and its lost only 43%
That said, most of that usage came from the first 4 hours where it lost 36%(1+ hour of talktime, youtube videos im not really shocked there)
6th hour i texted and browsed etc only 5% battery used.
7th hour I just sent back and forth a couple of texts and only 2% battery used.
All this when i dont use any applications like task killers etc..i just let them run the way they want. Also no wifi, everything over 3g.
so imo if it gives that kind of battery its good enough for me. I was really scared when i bought cuz people were complaining so much about its battery but im fairly surprised. One factor that could be though is that I am not running the GPS, no need for it yet, when I do ill update what kind of usage i got.
I get 23 hours battery life with HEAVY usage and 30 if mostly idle. Many may disagree but if you live or work in a Wifi zone, keeping wifi on and setting it to never sleep greatly INCREASES battery life. 3G radio uses more juice especially if low signal or always searching. If you click on Battery Use and see your "time without a signal" is anything over 20% then you will most certainly see increase on battery life if you leave wifi locked on while in a wifi zone.
Also, side note: I have a 1500mah Anker battery that also increases juice time I recommend it!
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23 hrs with heavy usage? Unless yours came with a 2300ma battery and not the paltry 1380ma battery, there's NO WAY you're getting 23 hours under heave usage.
I'm using a 1500mah calibrated battery and yep, its true I leave wifi on and set to never sleep when I'm at home or work. If not, 3G absolutely murders my battery. My phone drops between 3% and 5% per hour.
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Well today I am having less luck with battery life. I watched two movies on Netflix and constant Facebook. I unplugged at 10:30am and it is now 4:48pm and I am at 52%.. still using 1500mah battery.
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I just came from a Samsung Epic 4G. I have to say battery life it at least the same but probably better on the Triumph. The battery is also quicker to swap out on the Triumph. Between the already better battery life and ability to quickly swap, I'm more than happy.
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I just came from a Samsung Epic 4G. I have to say battery life it at least the same but probably better on the Triumph. The battery is also quicker to swap out on the Triumph. Between the already better battery life and ability to quickly swap, I'm more than happy.
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As horrible as the Triumph batt life is then I'd hate to think how bad the Epic 4g's life was...wow!
I can't get through half the day.
could you be more specific as to what you do on your phone? is your phone the international version or the USA T-mobile version.
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Tmobile, stock everything and I had the battery issue on my first HOS. I just got my replacement and Im running the same apps, same calls, same eveything as the first phone but i get a significant more battery life. The battery on the replacement HOS lasted me the entire day, but I still carry a charger around just incase.
Superbattery?
My TMo One S battery life recently went through the roof for some reason. I can only attribute it to one of the following or perhaps luck:
I've been charging it at end of day regardless of charge but I finally let the charge get below 25% -- I think it got to 15%. Then I powered it down and let it charge 12 hours overnight.
I disabled all Facebook related apps.
Other than that I can't recall anything I did recently that might account for my new super battery. But I'm at 1d 4h 25m on battery -- most of that on WiFi granted -- and still have 42% juice. I'll take it!
I always have my charger because I'm a twitter whore. I recommend disabling any bloat ware or duplicate app like Facebook For HTC or Twitter For HTC. And make sure you change settings for each app you use and don't use.
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Anyone use Juicedefender? My battery is excellent but if it can be improved then even better..
I'm using my phone very much, with Facebook and games and such, and I still get through the day without hesitate! I think it's wonderful
my battery life was poor on stock rom aswell. went trough a day only. had to charge every day. but now with noble v3 rom and being tiny bit more careful with use i have battery for 2 days
Battery life on this phone is better than most and I give it that. The only problem I have is the quick drop from 100% to 92% in a hour from little to light usage.
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I'm on stock Tmo US and have been getting amazing battery life. I took it off the charger when I left for work at 7:30am and I'm at 75% at 8:50pm.
That's with quite a bit of texting, pics taken at work, and 45 minutes of web browsing while I was on lunch. Granted, I don't do Facebook, so that may help.
This is the first phone I've been lazy about rooting because it's worked so well so far.
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I'm on stock Tmo US and have been getting amazing battery life. I took it off the charger when I left for work at 7:30am and I'm at 75% at 8:50pm.
That's with quite a bit of texting, pics taken at work, and 45 minutes of web browsing while I was on lunch. Granted, I don't do Facebook, so that may help.
This is the first phone I've been lazy about rooting because it's worked so well so far.
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I get decent battery life as well, but how do you manage only a 25% drop with over 12 hours of on time whic included a bunch of texting which keeps the screen on while u text and 45 min of browsing. Seems too good
I just got my One S less than a week ago. Love ICS. Battery life has been about 10 to 12 hours with medium amount of use. Facebook is disabled. I'm using active sync to sync to my exchange server and push frequency. (that continually goes out but that's for a different thread I guess).
I charge over night as I've done with my Dinc2, original Dinc, and all flavors of blackberry.
Last night I used a digital clock app while it was charging and in the morning at 8:30 where I unplugged, it had 100%. It's now just past 11 in the morning and with email, one short phone call and some light surfing, I'm already down to 62%.
I have noticed the phone is hot which means it's working hard to do something.
I have WiFi off and GPS off as well as location services. Should I return it for a new handset? Should I just go back to Verizon and get an iPhone?? Ugh.
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I'm on stock Tmo US and have been getting amazing battery life. I took it off the charger when I left for work at 7:30am and I'm at 75% at 8:50pm.
That's with quite a bit of texting, pics taken at work, and 45 minutes of web browsing while I was on lunch. Granted, I don't do Facebook, so that may help.
This is the first phone I've been lazy about rooting because it's worked so well so far.
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What's your "screen on" time? Have you changed any connectivity settings, that may have increased your battery life a lot?
If the phone is hot then something is running in the background you should probably figure out what that is and disable it before you do anything. Now with exchange servers set up on your phone they do tend to eat some battery. That's universal though. Sounds like to do have a rogue app though. As for me this past Monday I took the phone off the charger at 430am and didn't have to return it to the charger til 11pm mostly because I was going to bed. I watched netflix, text, phone calls, Web surfed.... Love this device.
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mikea3000 said:
I get decent battery life as well, but how do you manage only a 25% drop with over 12 hours of on time whic included a bunch of texting which keeps the screen on while u text and 45 min of browsing. Seems too good
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To you and the other person that asked, I think it really has to do with cell signal strength.
I posted those numbers after coming home from work where I have awesome cell coverage.
Today I've been home all day, and even though I'm on WiFi all day, my cell signal is horrible here. WiFi or not, it's still searching for a signal constantly so I've lost 30% in 6 hours with moderate use.
Now, as I said before, I don't use facebook or friendstream, but I think a lot of it is the radio constantly searching for a better signal.
I also think that either bad signal or just 3G takes a lot of battery.
I switched to 2G only just as an experiment, where I get a good signal almost constantly. This extended my battery life quite a lot. Where I usually had 10-20% left after a full day, I had 50% left with only 2G. I have also been using WiFi where available.
Can this be a software bug since there is such a big difference? I've noticed before that phone calls suck a lot of juice...
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I also think that either bad signal or just 3G takes a lot of battery.
I switched to 2G only just as an experiment, where I get a good signal almost constantly. This extended my battery life quite a lot. Where I usually had 10-20% left after a full day, I had 50% left with only 2G. I have also been using WiFi where available.
Can this be a software bug since there is such a big difference? I've noticed before that phone calls suck a lot of juice...
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2G is known to use much less battery life in every phone you check it.
Take a look at GSMarena on phone specifications in the bottom and you'll see the great difference.
BTW, looking on the battery test GSMArena did for the One S, it's quite in good place for the 3G calling and Video playback but uses a lot of battery on WEB browsing, see here
Might be that we the ones with low battery are more surfing than the others...
I get about 24 hours.
2 hour screen use. No FB or twitter, only gmail sync
Some text, 5mins of calls, <2% no signal
When idle i get battery drain of <10mA using:
http://www.3c71.com
Battery Monitor Widget. Logging current consumption is the only way to get to the bottom of the problem.
I'm talking with the author to get the kinks worked out of the One S logging.
*but* for some reasons something is keeping the phone awake at times. current drain is then 70-80mA constant. Not been able to find the culprit, but a reboot helps.
Hopefully this was useful.
I had the same issue-downloaded 2x battery from the market and it is much better. ( I have syncing with twitter, fb, gmail, mobile life all enabled)
I could barely get through the day. Seems the phone does a lot when syncing etc and this stops that, or at least limits it to the interval of your choice. every 10 I believe with the free version.
Try it-I am sure it will help. (I also turn the brightness down as I am mostly indoors-and put it on auto outside-but that is just me)
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I had the same issue-downloaded 2x battery from the market and it is much better. ( I have syncing with twitter, fb, gmail, mobile life all enabled)
I could barely get through the day. Seems the phone does a lot when syncing etc and this stops that, or at least limits it to the interval of your choice. every 10 I believe with the free version.
Try it-I am sure it will help. (I also turn the brightness down as I am mostly indoors-and put it on auto outside-but that is just me)
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Actually, due to the fact that every time I check the usage of battery screen is in top place (with Auto brightness all the time) and the fact I'm syncing with FB, Gmail, Exchange server and more, I guess the best thing to do is to lower Screen brightness...