Hi,
I am currently working in a project in Spain to implement an application for SFA (Sales Force Automation) to capture orders at Point of Sale . We are evaluating using XDA II (PPC 2003 phone edition) as a device where to run the application.
As this application (.NET) will sync data over GPRS, we need to have GPRS activated. But at the same time, we would like to save power deactivating GPRS from the application, when the user don't need to sync data with the server.
Here is the question :
- Is it possible to activate / deactivate GPRS from an application without deactivating the whole radio interface ? (i.e. we want the user be able to to make phone calls at any time (even when GPRS is off)).
- If so, what is the API that enables to do it ? (we don't want the user changing this from device settings).
Thanks in advance,
Rgs,
Jose Martrat
Valoris
T:+34 670331056
In order to deactivate your gprs connection, you hold the red button for 3 seconds (hang up button).
You have also some tools that have a connect/disconnect button sucg as GPRS monitor.
I appreciate your quick repply, but I am not looking for a mechanism to close a GPRS session.
I need a way to disable the process that is permanently looking for the GPRS network,even when you don't have a GPRS session inititated (i.e. disable the radio interface for GPRS only), in order to reduce power consumption.
I need this from an API, not from a user intervention, so we can program this functionality on our application.
Hopes this clarifies my question.
Rgs,
probably this guy who has come out with this Tweak can help.
http://www.gb-soft.cz/XDAII/product_gprs_tweak_en.htm
This tweak allow to to start Radio by not having GPRS attached. Is that what you're looking for?
Hi everyone, noob here.
I have just bought an XDA Mini S to replace my ipaq and old bluetooth phone (not that is relevant).
I'd like to be able to set up a kind of "profile" on the device so I can switch between "being at home" and "not being at home". This is pretty email centric.
To try and explain a bit further, I have WIFI at home.
So, when at home, I'd like my XDA to check for email periodically, but over wifi (as I've already paid the broadband charges)
When out, I'd like to do the same but I'll be using GPRS.
Is there any sort of utility or set up which I could switch on when at home to force the device to connect over WIFI ? I guess this would be tricky as I don't want to have WIFI on all the time in case of mullering the battery.
Not sure if I'm explaining this very well. If I can put it in "pseudo code" it may illustrate a bit better.
When checking e-mail
If home profile set
start up WIFI and connect
Send receive
disconnect from WIFI
Else
start up GPRS and connect
Send receive
disconnect from GPRS
Hopefully this makes sense to someone ????
Thanks
Don
Hello; I have a Qtek-8300 since a few days ago, but have a lot of experience with PocketPC because of my Ipaq 4150.
I have some questions about the WM5.0 and ActiveSync:
1- Is it possible to establish an order in the preferred connection method to internet? I would like to set: first: ActiveSync; second: Wi-Fi; Third: GPRS. Presently, when I have both GPRS and Wi-Fi, I don't know which one is being used !! Is it a way to discover if I'm using GPRS or Wi-Fi on a given moment?
2- I'm seeing several different icons about GPRS, at different times, but with the phone in stand by (not being used in any way): a) the signal indicator to the right sometimes has a "G"; b) Sometimes in the middle I have a solid triangle (according to the manual means 'roaming'), and sometimes that triangle has also a small "G". Is this correct? Why are the signaling changing?
3- Is it possible to sync the "notes" items of Outlook?
Also, is it possible to sync files under "My Documents"?
4- In ActiveSync I can't access to the option "Program" (it is grayed out); I think that is the way to set if I want to sync continually or manually (like when I sync my PocketPC). Or a SmartPhone is allways synced??
5- I don't fuly understand why incoming calls are not found on my contacts database, since it is fully loaded; perhaps it is because of a local numbering issue. Is it possible to set the number of digits (right-to-left) that WM will use to report the name of the incoming caller? I think that if I set this number to about 6 digits, my contacts will be found.
Thank you very much for your help!
paggps said:
Hello; I have a Qtek-8300 since a few days ago, but have a lot of experience with PocketPC because of my Ipaq 4150.
I have some questions about the WM5.0 and ActiveSync:
1- Is it possible to establish an order in the preferred connection method to internet? I would like to set: first: ActiveSync; second: Wi-Fi; Third: GPRS. Presently, when I have both GPRS and Wi-Fi, I don't know which one is being used !! Is it a way to discover if I'm using GPRS or Wi-Fi on a given moment?
2- I'm seeing several different icons about GPRS, at different times, but with the phone in stand by (not being used in any way): a) the signal indicator to the right sometimes has a "G"; b) Sometimes in the middle I have a solid triangle (according to the manual means 'roaming') and sometimes that triangle has also a small "G". Is this correct? Why are the signaling changing?
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Maybe the triangle (i haven't seen it yet) is a roaming between local operators (ie if your operators gprs signal isn't high enough or has no coverage, they allow you to use another operators gprs with(or without) extra charge). The big G means availability of gprs (or big E availability of edge) and little g (or e) on the right means you are using it ..
,3- Is it possible to sync the "notes" items of Outlook?
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Yes - look for "smartphone notes 2.0" at smartphone.net
Also, is it possible to sync files under "My Documents"?
4- In ActiveSync I can't access to the option "Program" (it is grayed out); I think that is the way to set if I want to sync continually or manually (like when I sync my PocketPC). Or a SmartPhone is allways synced??
5- I don't fuly understand why incoming calls are not found on my contacts database, since it is fully loaded; perhaps it is because of a local numbering issue. Is it possible to set the number of digits (right-to-left) that WM will use to report the name of the incoming caller? I think that if I set this number to about 6 digits, my contacts will be found.
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have you set the phone numbers in ur database (outlook) in the form of:
+44-xxx-xxxxxx ? In outlook you should use the country code (it adds automatically the +44 or whatever). I have over a 1000 numbers set as country code, area code, number, and they are all recognised just fine.
Try with a couple of numbers - if it works, then I gues u got some work to do .... :lol:
Hope I helped
Thank you very much for your help, muppet_65.
I'm now trying SmartphoneNotes; installed fine, and sync ok with my Outlook. Very nice solution.
Respect to the problem finding the numbers in the contacts database: yes, the probem is that there is something weird in Argentina's numbering system: when you dial a cell number, it is (xxx) 15+6digitNumber. But when you receive a call from it, the CallerID is (xxx)+6digitNumber, without the "15".
The only solution I see is to configure (registry?) the number of digits WM uses to report the name of the caller. If I can set it to 6 digits, it would work fine (in most of the cases, at least).
Thank you again.
Anyone with some help on the GPRS/WIFI issue? How can I set the preferred internet access? I don't want to use GPRS if WiFi is available...
i have a problem with my s710...when i close pocketIE (from task manager) and stop gprs connection form comm manager, after few minuts the connection is up again! to stop this gprs connectin i must reboot my smartphone because in the comm manager wont work!
there is no other SW on my s710, so it's impossible that some program made che connection!
any idea?
Yep i get that too and no idea why
duncan1976 said:
i have a problem with my s710...when i close pocketIE (from task manager) and stop gprs connection form comm manager, after few minuts the connection is up again! to stop this gprs connectin i must reboot my smartphone because in the comm manager wont work!
there is no other SW on my s710, so it's impossible that some program made che connection!
any idea?
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I also see a G (or E) in the middle and at the right hand side. And yes, according the manual the icon in the middle means G (or E) is available and the icon at the right there is an ongoing connection. I'm not sure whether the connection is actually used. I think there is no traffic. But that still leaves the question what initiates a connection on your guys S710.
On my S710 after re-enabling the phone function I only see a G (or E) in the middle, but not at the right. Also after some minutes.
I think thats a bug, when I use the gprs I get the small G instead of the antenna in the upper right corner. When I disable gprs it's still there. Has to reboot to get rid of it.
check email settings
you may want to check email settings. if you have selected to check your email account every X minutes the connection will activate automatically. uncheck the box or choose "never" and see if it happens again.
nope - both email accounts set to never
iberico said:
you may want to check email settings. if you have selected to check your email account every X minutes the connection will activate automatically. uncheck the box or choose "never" and see if it happens again.
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Check Live Messenger
Hello,
I noticed the same issue.
I had to perform a factory reset (Clear) to solve it.
I traced this issue to Microsoft Live Messenger, which tries to connect.
Hans
I wonder if there is anyway I can get it to prompt me before using the gprs?
Sometimes, while browsing, my wifi will cut out and start using my gprs. Which is why I would like my phone to ask me whether or not it can use gprs.
My old P900 always asked.
I'm currently looking if I can create a utility to do just that.
bump as I have the same issue...
most of the times I never realise that WIFi is gone and gprs has been activated.
There must be a way to ask us if we want gprs connection before actually activating it.....
Yep, same problem here. Sometimes I even disable "Phone" in Comm Manager and turn on "WLAN" just to be sure I'm surfing via my WiFi router, and not GPRS/EDGE.
You can always disconnect GPRS via the Comm Manager. Most programs have a setting weather to chose connection automaticaly or you can set it to wifi or gprs(like Internet Explorer)
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You can always disconnect GPRS via the Comm Manager. Most programs have a setting weather to chose connection automaticaly or you can set it to wifi or gprs(like Internet Explorer)
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That's the problem. The GPRS connection is active, but the GRPS in Comm Manager is disabled so you can't turn it off. I've seen some registry key changes that enable you to press the "red end call" key to stop the connection, but it soons resurrects itself and re-appears, and is still not enabled in Comm Manager to disable it.
I've not seen an option in Internet Explorer on the Smartphones to choose Wifi or GPRS, you just get "Internet", "Wap", "Secure WAP", "MMS", "Work". There is no option for Wifi only.
I been looking for a little program for a while now that prompts you when your Wifi connection has lost, and whether you want to continue with GPRS or not. So far, I've not found anything.
I've noticed programs such as Fring monitor such a connection and give you the option, but I would like to see something that is a seperate process and monitors the connection itself, and not just for one program.
duncan1976 said:
i have a problem with my s710...when i close pocketIE (from task manager) and stop gprs connection form comm manager, after few minuts the connection is up again! to stop this gprs connectin i must reboot my smartphone because in the comm manager wont work!
there is no other SW on my s710, so it's impossible that some program made che connection!
any idea?
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You can apply this regedit in the way to disconnect gprs/edge connection simply pressing red button:
to resolve this problem:
Go to: HKLM-->Comm-->ConnMgr-->Planner-->Settings-->SuspendResume
and delete ~GPRS! value.
This value was couseing phone to keep active gprs connection by any meanings.
When you delete it, red button will close the connection again
Found this one somewhere one month ago.
Tested: it works.
Same problem here.
I have seen this issue discussed on several different forums. Is it a WM6 bug?
i just leave my gprs connection setting not set up. When ever i try and connect without WIFI i cannot use GPRS. This means i cant connect to the internet unless i have availble WIFI but at least i wont get billed for un wanted GPRS
hoice said:
i just leave my gprs connection setting not set up. When ever i try and connect without WIFI i cannot use GPRS. This means i cant connect to the internet unless i have availble WIFI but at least i wont get billed for un wanted GPRS
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It´s sad Windows Mobile/HTC forces you to do these things just to prevent being charged withour your consent.
had to do the same thing, just deleted the whole gprs account ... I actually got billed for 214 "gprs connection" the last month, wich was very expensieve. This is actually a huge bug, hope someone will fix it soon.
Its a money eating bug!
Hi guys,
I've just configured my email account to check this functionality on TP.
Mail checking is configured to get new emails for every 2h so connection is automatically estabilished for 3G or sth.
Now I need solution and I'm wondering if there is any option to get this session disconnected if not used lets say for 3min.
Is quite important to disconnect session IF NOT USED (no data transfer) no just 3min after connection was established.
I've found such option in AdvancedConfig 3.3 but I'm wondering how it works ?
Any ideas how to do it ?
Regards
B.
Why do you want to end the data connection. When idle, it will not use any data and will not drain the battery. Mine is always active and it saves the time spent negotiating with the network when you want to access the email.
I'm not sure all operators allow the Data connection active cost free. mine doesn't take out any costs for data session beeing active and idle so I don't mind, and the batterydrain is minimal.