hey guys, its me again, with more problems.....
i was installing a cab yesterday when it hung. i restarted my tilt, and left it to charge overnight and i went to bed. my friend called me this morning, but i did not hear any sound. tried calling a couple other people, same issue.
having this problem before, i tried to flash a couple new radios onto the phone, but everytime i tried, an error popped up that "rapitool.exe must close".
i was wondering if i can install it the same way that you install a new ROM, just putting it on the sim card and changing the name to KAISIMG and then go through the bootloader. i did not try this yet, because i am worried i may brick my phone.
Can installing a radio be done this way?
AFAIK the easiest way (and the safest way) of flashing a radio is by using the customRUU that comes with most of them. You really cant go wrong if you do it that way
yes i know that, but it does not work for me.
wow you could have googled the answer in half the time it took you to type all that
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wow you could have googled the answer in half the time it took you to type all that
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thank you for your inspiring and informative post, i couldn't have done it without you..........
guciodog said:
i was wondering if i can install it the same way that you install a new ROM, just putting it on the sim card and changing the name to KAISIMG and then go through the bootloader. i did not try this yet, because i am worried i may brick my phone.
Can installing a radio be done this way?
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Yes, but I hope you meant the SD card and not the sim card.
whoops lol. yea i meant sd card
that's how I flash stuff - sdcard style, baby! you can flash anything other than a spl. has worked flawless for me everytime. saves me a bit of time too not having to wait for my phone to sync to my pos comp.
richabi said:
that's how I flash stuff - sdcard style, baby! you can flash anything other than a spl. has worked flawless for me everytime. saves me a bit of time too not having to wait for my phone to sync to my pos comp.
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Errrr, actually, you can flash ANYTHING via SD Card. Yes, even radios & SPL's. Only they have a different name & need to be byte type formatted for the type of file they are, i.e. SPL or Radio, or Diagnostic.
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..byte type formatted for the type of file they are, i.e. SPL or Radio, or Diagnostic.
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could u elaborate on this sir? i read somewhere that for flashing roms card has to be fat32.. is that same for spl;s or no?
nevermind got an answer:
"Quoting Wiki" on sd flashing:
1. It doesnt work
Your device must have HardSPL first.
2. It still doesnt work
Make sure that the card is formatted as Fat32 and the nbh file is named as KAISIMG.nbh
3. It really still doesnt work
Try using a different microSD card. It does not work with Kingston 1Gb cards, and some other cards.
4. Can I flash a radio ROM using this method?
Yes, you can even flash your splash screen using this method. Quote from Alex "ROM = Radio, OS, Splash and SPL. Some ROMs have less, some have more. You can even have a ROM with radio only
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thesire said:
could u elaborate on this sir? i read somewhere that for flashing roms card has to be fat32.. is that same for spl;s or no?
nevermind got an answer:
"Quoting Wiki" on sd flashing:
1. It doesnt work
Your device must have HardSPL first.
2. It still doesnt work
Make sure that the card is formatted as Fat32 and the nbh file is named as KAISIMG.nbh
3. It really still doesnt work
Try using a different microSD card. It does not work with Kingston 1Gb cards, and some other cards.
4. Can I flash a radio ROM using this method?
Yes, you can even flash your splash screen using this method. Quote from Alex "ROM = Radio, OS, Splash and SPL. Some ROMs have less, some have more. You can even have a ROM with radio only
"end quoting wiki on sd flashing"
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Firstly, for anyhtin other than rom, it needs to be named KAISDIAG.nbh, but the byte type needs to be correctly identified.
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Firstly, for anyhtin other than rom, it needs to be named KAISDIAG.nbh, but the byte type needs to be correctly identified.
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didn't know about kaisdiag.nbh, thanks for the update.
How To Guide - Install CAB's - Flash ROM's - HardSPL - Flash via MicroSD
Welcome!
The world of Windows Mobile is glad to see you! There are millions of things you can do with Windows Mobile, and some of the coolest will be described here! Follow the Table of Contents below, or read through the entire page to learn all you can!
Table of Contents
How to Install a Program (CAB File)
How to Flash a Custom ROM (Upgrading to Windows Mobile 6.5)
Learn More about ROM's and Flashing!
USPL Method - Learn More
HardSPL Method - Learn More
Flashing Options
If you want to run one of the many Custom ROM's out there, then you will have to learn how to flash first! To learn more about flashing, click here. You have two options:
USPL - Use this method if you plan to only flash occasionally. This is a "temporary" solution, that simply bypasses the CID security for the duration of the flash. This is not the safest method, but is useful for flashing once in a while! Use THIS PAGE to flash with this method.
HardSPL - This is a permanent solution. Use this option if you plan on flashing a lot. It is also the safest, once you are HardSPL. Also, this allows you to flash LZX ROM's, and flash via MicroSD. Click HERE to flash like this (Non-PDF Version)
More Info on ROM's and Flashing
Steps to flash using HardSPL: (PDF Version) (Written by Apreincher, many thanks!!!!!!!!!)
It is a good idea to flash back to stock ROM just to be safe. If you are using a T-Mobile Wing you can download it from T-Mobile or from this guide. If it's a Herald you can download it from this guide.
It is important that your IPL is 4.xxx or Higher. If it is not, do not attempt a HardSPL it WILL brick your phone. You can find out the IPL by going into Bootloader:
While holding the camera button do a soft-reset by pressing the stylus into the reset hole next to the volume slider. Release the reset switch while still holding the camera button. A colored screen will come up listing your IPL and SPL. If next to IPL it says 4.xxx or higher, proceed to step 2.
Reset back into your normal phone OS.
Go to Settings- Connections- USB to PC and check the checkbox on that page.
Install the 3 CABs in this order:
Canon Yang.cab
ASerg Policies.cab
Disable Security.cab
Soft reset the phone.
Download the HardSPL folder, extract it, and place it on the Desktop.
Run ROMUpdateUtility.exe located in the HardSPL folder. Update the ROM using the steps on the screen. The screen will become white, but wait until the phone reboots itself. It could be 10-15 minutes.
Phone should boot back into some strange looking ROM. This is the HardSPL ROM. So far so good.
Check your SPL by going to bootloader again. If it says 4.70.yang, you are good as gold and HardSPLed.
Okay so now how do I flash after I'm in HardSPL?
There are actually two ways to flash while you are HardSPLed. You can use the flash center method or the SD card method. Most LZX and Micro ROM's require you to flash through the SD card method.
Flash Center with HardSPL:
Open the HardSPL folder and remove the .nbh file that is located in there. Replace it with the .nbh file you downloaded with your favorite ROM.
Run ROMUpdateUtility.exe
You've installed a custom ROM on HardSPL.
Flash through SD Card with HardSPL:
Unfortunately, sometimes this can be a bit more complicated. Make sure you use an SD card and not an SDHC card.
Your storage card will hopefully be lower than 4 GB, or else it might have trouble locating the file. If your storage card is larger, you can partition it to be smaller. Also, no SDCH cards will work.
You must format that storage card to FAT32.
Now, you download the ROM (and uncompress it if it’s a .7z, .rar, or .zip file).
Place the downloaded and uncompressed ROM file (.NBH) into the root of your storage card. Also, you must rename it HERAIMG.nbh. (Captialized)
Put the SD Card into your phone, and with your phone turned on, hold the camera button down. While holding the camera button, press and release the soft reset button. Keep holding the camera button until a new, white screen appears.
If it displays a white screen with blue text that says Checking SD contents and then Update Image proceed to step the next step.
If it immediately goes into the colored bootloader screen, it appears your phone's bootloader is not finding your SD card. Some SD cards require special formatting for some reason. Plug the SD card into your computer using an SD card reading and right click on Computer and click Manage. Click Disk Management on the right pane. Select the SD card from the list and right click and select Format. Under Allocation Unit Size, select 4096. Format and ignore any errors. Proceed with steps 2-4. If it does not work even with this adjustment, your SD card might be too slow. Or you have a SDHC card which isn't easily recognized by bootloader.
This screen that you’re on will have a white background, with blue letters. It will search for your HERAIMG.nbh file, and once it finds it, it’ll give you 10 seconds to answer yes.
To flash the ROM, when it asks you if you want to flash this, press down on the volume slider. Weird, eh? Just do it.
Now, let it flash for a good 10 minutes.
Success! Press any key. Press down on the volume slider again, and you’re on the color screen now. Hold the power button to turn off the phone, and then turn your phone back on. Welcome to your new ROM!
If you are already HardSPL and something happens and flashing doesn't work and you find that your phone appears to be off and won't turn on. Don't panic. Go into Bootloader and use the Flash Center directions to flash a ROM.
Flash Center with HardSPL:
Download the HardSPL folder and remove the .nbh file that is located in there. Replace it with the .nbh file you downloaded with your favorite ROM.
Run ROMUpdateUtility.exe
You've installed a custom ROM on HardSPL.
Flash through SD Card with HardSPL:
Unfortunately, sometimes this can be a bit more complicated. Make sure you use an SD card and not an SDHC card. Also, HardSPL first!
Your storage card will hopefully be lower than 4 GB, or else it might have trouble locating the file. If your storage card is larger, you can partition it to be smaller. Also, no SDCH cards will work. You must be HardSPL first!!
You must format that storage card to FAT32.
Now, you download the ROM (and uncompress it if it’s a .7z, .rar, or .zip file).
Place the downloaded and uncompressed ROM file (.NBH) into the root of your storage card. Also, you must rename it HERAIMG.nbh. (Captialized)
Put the SD Card into your phone, and with your phone turned on, hold the camera button down. While holding the camera button, press and release the soft reset button. Keep holding the camera button until a new, white screen appears.
If it displays a white screen with blue text that says Checking SD contents and then Update Image proceed to step the next step.
If it immediately goes into the colored bootloader screen, it appears your phone's bootloader is not finding your SD card. Some SD cards require special formatting for some reason. Plug the SD card into your computer using an SD card reading and right click on Computer and click Manage. Click Disk Management on the right pane. Select the SD card from the list and right click and select Format. Under Allocation Unit Size, select 4096. Format and ignore any errors. Proceed with steps 2-4. If it does not work even with this adjustment, your SD card might be too slow. Or you have a SDHC card which isn't easily recognized by bootloader.
This screen that you’re on will have a white background, with blue letters. It will search for your HERAIMG.nbh file, and once it finds it, it’ll give you 10 seconds to answer yes.
To flash the ROM, when it asks you if you want to flash this, press down on the volume slider. Weird, eh? Just do it.
Now, let it flash for a good 10 minutes.
Success! Press any key. Press down on the volume slider again, and you’re on the color screen now. Hold the power button to turn off the phone, and then turn your phone back on. Welcome to your new ROM!
If you are already HardSPL and something happens and flashing doesn't work and you find that your phone appears to be off and won't turn on. Don't panic. Go into Bootloader and use the Flash Center directions to flash a ROM.
Waitttt. going for the entire first page...If this turns into what Apreincher wrote up over the summer, then we'll need it!!!
I feel so bad that Apreincher never released all of his incredible guide, lol. He wrote everything up, from installing CAB's to HardSPL, and he wrote it well!
Is there even anyone that hasn't HardSPLed yet??? LOL. Maybe one person, out of the 3 of us, hasn't yet?
Anyone believe in 2012 doomsday? Watching the special TV show on it, and it's soooooo gonna happen! Who's gonna be there on friday, to see the movie?!?!?
I'm sure Ivan will be cooking till December 21, 2012, to the last second of the world LOL.
Done!!!! Post your thoughts.
Sticky??
Maybe this should be stickied Ivan???? It'd kind of answer everyone's HardSPL questions, and then getting HardSPL would be a breeze, thanks to Apreincher's clear and percise instructions!
ace10134 said:
I'm sure Ivan will be cooking till December 21, 2012, to the last second of the world LOL.
Done!!!! Post your thoughts.
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ROFL. Nah, I might eventually move on to another major project or one of my other smaller projects. Although I'm working on a few things for the kitchen right now. I'm almost done writing this installer/updater that automatically checks the server for an updated version of the kitchen compared to the one you have in your PC. (It actually checks the OEM's, the EXT, the SYS/XIP and the main kitchens files separately and only updates the one that changed.)
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Maybe this should be stickied Ivan???? It'd kind of answer everyone's HardSPL questions, and then getting HardSPL would be a breeze, thanks to Apreincher's clear and percise instructions!
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I can add it to my Super sticky. I'm trying to keep the forum tidy (well... the development forum for now as I haven't had time to look over anything else) so I want to avoid many stickies.
Nix that idea. I have a better idea. You guys can take over:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Herald_Guide
And turn that into the ULTIMATE guide!
ivanmmj said:
Nix that idea. I have a better idea. You guys can take over:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Herald_Guide
And turn that into the ULTIMATE guide!
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Cool, I'll port the info into there sometime soon
Need help with flashing ROM from microSD
Hey peeps,
I have been trying to flash my TMo Wing to the Glass ROM, which is the rom I really want to use. I have been trying to flash by microSD. However, even though following the directions to the best of my ability, I have failed. _-_ I only see the 'Searching for card' screen for a second, then surpases to the bootloader screen. I have tried downloading all of Ace's -The Wingster's ROMs for the wing and some of Ivan's as well.
Now my desktop computer died on me recently (damn 8-pin molex connector on my mobo). So my torment has been downloading the .nbh files with my phone. I don't think that downloading by phone would have anything to do with the failure, would it?
I thought it was my microSD card, so I downloaded Flash-Format. I made sure to format my 1 gig card to fat32 with an 8kb cluster.
That didn't work, so I went out and bought another microSD. Formated with the flash-format to fat32 as well. This one is a 256mb.
Now, I was reading in the directions that speed may be an issue. Being that I cant format from the desktop, is it possible to change the speed by using the device itself?
Also I was reading that it is recommended to flash back to the original Tmo Wing ROM. Is this a possible reason that I cannot flash by SD?
I have already HardSPL'd and currently have a HERA1100 ROM WM6.1 Gullum ROM installed.
Thanks for any suggestions,
~Trib
ok iv been flashing for a few months now through flash center and never really had to many issues, well i flashed Big Rom 23081 and have had nothing but trouble, one of them being that i can no longer use activesync.
i went and got one of my smaller sd cards formatted it and put on just stable micro to the root of the sd card, ( did not add any folders) followed the directions of holding down camera button then the soft reset button, well nothing happens at best i get the window that asks me if i wanna turn off my device yes or no and my camera stays on.
is there a roundabout amount of time i hold the camera button before i push the soft reset button, and a amount of time i hold down the camera button before the white screen on.
iv been searching and for the life of me i cant figure out what im doing wrong, the only thing iv read that might make sense is flashing back to the original tmo rom but i cant do that because i cant connect to activesync.
anyone have an idea or suggestion of what to do?
thanks
Tribulattifather said:
Hey peeps,
I have been trying to flash my TMo Wing to the Glass ROM, which is the rom I really want to use. I have been trying to flash by microSD. However, even though following the directions to the best of my ability, I have failed. _-_ I only see the 'Searching for card' screen for a second, then surpases to the bootloader screen. I have tried downloading all of Ace's -The Wingster's ROMs for the wing and some of Ivan's as well.
Now my desktop computer died on me recently (damn 8-pin molex connector on my mobo). So my torment has been downloading the .nbh files with my phone. I don't think that downloading by phone would have anything to do with the failure, would it?
I thought it was my microSD card, so I downloaded Flash-Format. I made sure to format my 1 gig card to fat32 with an 8kb cluster.
That didn't work, so I went out and bought another microSD. Formated with the flash-format to fat32 as well. This one is a 256mb.
Now, I was reading in the directions that speed may be an issue. Being that I cant format from the desktop, is it possible to change the speed by using the device itself?
Also I was reading that it is recommended to flash back to the original Tmo Wing ROM. Is this a possible reason that I cannot flash by SD?
I have already HardSPL'd and currently have a HERA1100 ROM WM6.1 Gullum ROM installed.
Thanks for any suggestions,
~Trib
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Confirm the following:
You renamed the downloaded file "HERAIMG.nbh"
You extracted the .NBH file, if necessary. Some ROM's come compressed in .RAR or .7z format. You can use 7Zip to extract those.
You do NOT have a SDHC card? SDHC cards won't work.
It should work. Hopefully you can get something going.
livndeadgrl13 said:
ok iv been flashing for a few months now through flash center and never really had to many issues, well i flashed Big Rom 23081 and have had nothing but trouble, one of them being that i can no longer use activesync.
i went and got one of my smaller sd cards formatted it and put on just stable micro to the root of the sd card, ( did not add any folders) followed the directions of holding down camera button then the soft reset button, well nothing happens at best i get the window that asks me if i wanna turn off my device yes or no and my camera stays on.
is there a roundabout amount of time i hold the camera button before i push the soft reset button, and a amount of time i hold down the camera button before the white screen on.
iv been searching and for the life of me i cant figure out what im doing wrong, the only thing iv read that might make sense is flashing back to the original tmo rom but i cant do that because i cant connect to activesync.
anyone have an idea or suggestion of what to do?
thanks
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You hold down the Camera button, and while you CONTINUE to hold down the Camera button, you press and RELEASE the Soft Reset button. Then, continue to hold the Camera button down until the bootloader appears.
Flashing back to stock wouldn't do ****!
ace10134 said:
Confirm the following:
You renamed the downloaded file "HERAIMG.nbh"
You extracted the .NBH file, if necessary. Some ROM's come compressed in .RAR or .7z format. You can use 7Zip to extract those.
You do NOT have a SDHC card? SDHC cards won't work.
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Yes. I have made sure that my card is not a high capacity card.
The file is HERAIMG.nbh on my card (not in any folders).
And its not archived. I think it might be because I do not have the original ROM installed. Can someone link me to the original ROM that Tmo uses on the Wing?
Thanks again,
~Trib
Tribulattifather said:
Yes. I have made sure that my card is not a high capacity card.
The file is HERAIMG.nbh on my card (not in any folders).
And its not archived. I think it might be because I do not have the original ROM installed. Can someone link me to the original ROM that Tmo uses on the Wing?
Thanks again,
~Trib
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Nah, that doesn't make a difference if you have the stock ROM. Anyways, flashing the stock ROM will remove your HardSPL, soo, you would have to re-do your HardSPL!
I really don't know why it's not working, honestly.
I couldn't take it anymore so I went to my girl's mom's house and just flashed the ROM by Active Sync. I wish I could have been able to flash by sd. Sorry to get off topic, but does anyone else think that it is as agonizing as hell to use the new IExplorer? It loads so slow and takes a lot of time to render when zooming.
Also, what program do I use to have the same on screen keyboard as I did with M2D TouchFLO?
I really have gotten used to that layout.
And lastly, I don't understand for the life of me why the only browser that I use out of IE, Opera Mobile 9.7, Opera Mini 5 Beta and SkyFire, SkyFire is the only browser that is usable. The only one that can utilize the flash player. So what do you guys think,
<Trib
Before I do the OTA update would you all recommend skipping it and going for the hacked ROMs? I will be working on this tonight.
Woot, EXCITED
Also what is the best 8-16g SD card to get? Does it matter?
Thanks
WantADroid said:
Before I do the OTA update would you all recommend skipping it and going for the hacked ROMs? I will be working on this tonight.
Woot, EXCITED
Also what is the best 8-16g SD card to get? Does it matter?
Thanks
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My vote would be to start with the modding... I have my first ROM flashed before I was out the door at sears.
A for the SD Card, there are several different choices; some prefer one brand over the other. I don't think I use mine as extensively as others. The higher the class (class 2,6,10) the faster the read/writes are supposed to be. I just recently picked up a 16gb Class 10 from Fry's for $32. Couldn't pass that deal up even though I didn't really need it.
Good luck!
Having just flashed mine from Stock 3389 + Enhancement Pack to TNT 3.1.3, I can tell you that there isn't a ton of difference between the two. I do like CWM and the ability to back everything up, but the Stock 3389 delivered very similar performance and Quadrant scores compared to TNT 3.1.3, in that when browsing, I can't really tell any difference at all.
It really wasn't very hard to flash a custom ROM. Just follow the directions from the one thread that talks about CWM, TNT, and Flash/Market fix, and just substitute the ROM of your choice. It's likely that you won't have to do the Flash fix either.
Enjoy!
Thanks
Thanks for the replies!
In order to use the custom ROMs I need an SD card correct? Is there anything in the new update that screws up using the custom ROMs?
WantADroid said:
Thanks for the replies!
In order to use the custom ROMs I need an SD card correct? Is there anything in the new update that screws up using the custom ROMs?
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Technically no... you can boot up and drop what you need on the internal SD and run from there. It's good to have a MicroSD on hand as you can run recovery/command directly from there if you'd like. It's also recommended to keep recovery files and a rom (stock) on the MicroSD in case of a boo boo, it allows you to boot to recovery and re run it.
Remember that in the recover folder there is a command file. That file is telling the tab where to look, either SDCARD (built in) or SDCARD2(microSD). That command is WIPED every time its run weather successful or not. Therefore it's a good idea to have a pc nearby in case you need to replace it.
Also, depending on where you are running it from make sure the command is pointing to where you are wanting to go SDCARD (built in) or SDCARD2(microSD). Some grab a stock recovery folder from here (which tells it to look locally) then put the ROM on the MicroSD and nothing happens.
Again, IMHO Clockwork is the way to go. I personally drop all ROMS in the internal SD and play from there. Boot into recovery (Clockwork) and tell it to install the flavor of the day.