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is there anyway to create an rom with bigger free space to programs ?

just cross my mine,
as i see the photo in the followed link
http://www.pocketpcfreak.com/archive/PDA2K_004.JPG
i feel jealous that they have 72 MB for programs, can we do something similar ? like cut 10 MB from the storage and add it to the programs ( like they did in PDA2k) ....
what you all think about it ?

The memory structure of the Wizard is different and doesn't allow us to do that.

the AT&T tilt has 256 MB flash memory

jwzg said:
The memory structure of the Wizard is different and doesn't allow us to do that.
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yeah, now when i think about it - people thought about it before me , i feel it's like a stupid question

Well since we're on this subject... Has anyone been able to figure out a way to take the extended Rom space effectively turn it into free memory? Most new Roms don't utilize that space in any way at all. It just kinda sits there. Kinda like a "Big Storage" Rom if anyone knows what I mean?

That's an interesting thought dlharvey.

jwzg said:
That's an interesting thought dlharvey.
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Well that's what I was thinking. I personally do not have a wizard anymore because of an unfortunate toilet accident... Don't ask, it's embarrassing.
BUT... I plan on getting another one eventually and I think that a "Big Storage" Rom is something that might be possible and if it is, then I think all new wizard Roms should be so since they do not use an extended Rom.

dharvey4651 said:
Well since we're on this subject... Has anyone been able to figure out a way to take the extended Rom space effectively turn it into free memory? Most new Roms don't utilize that space in any way at all. It just kinda sits there. Kinda like a "Big Storage" Rom if anyone knows what I mean?
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how much it's the extended rom ? like 10 MB , right ?
i would love to have another 10 MB for programs

mohen said:
how much it's the extended rom ? like 10 MB , right ?
i would love to have another 10 MB for programs
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Well if you do the math, you have 128 megabytes of ROM on the device and most Roms are what? 5X megabytes? that should leave us with 6X-7X megabytes of space left over but you don't. It's more like 4X-5X Megabytes so the Extended Rom space has to be around 10-20 Megabytes and to have that as extra space to install apps would be ideal since I have not come across a Rom that utilizes the extended rom space to date with the exception of faria's...
X symbolizing the ones position in a 2 digit number: IE: 5(0)

well, i'm sure there is something we can do. the PDA aint much different than the HTC, and they did the same trick on the PDA2k

JustFlo

Here's a sneak peak at the new JustFlo.
So far: Based on a modified version of Just2Clean. It's going to be stripped more and LZX'ed.
All kinds of programs...
Manilla2d - without the music tab because it takes more RAM and slows down the phone.
No Opera - OperaMini instead.
Free space with a lot of programs before I really clean it:
47mb of free storage
29mb of free RAM (WITH Manilla2d running.)

damn!
music tab CAN be re-enabled though right?
it is gonna be big enough to flash through ruu? i still havent gotten my 128mb card...

It's just big enough right now, but it shouldn't be when I'm done with it. But I'll try to make one that's big enough.

ivanmmj said:
It's just big enough right now, but it shouldn't be when I'm done with it. But I'll try to make one that's big enough.
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cool thanks!

this sounds great can't wait
for the music tab....is there a way you can make it launch a program when you chose the icon.. like S2P....that way we still have a music tab and a lot of memory left ...no need for preview just go straight to S2P

ivanmmj said:
Free space with a lot of programs before I really clean it:
47mb of free storage
29mb of free RAM (WITH Manilla2d running.)
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Dude, are you serious? this is crazy. 29mb of free ram? I don't get this EVEN WITHOUT Manillia2d!!!

ivanmmj said:
Here's a sneak peak at the new JustFlo.
So far: Based on a modified version of Just2Clean. It's going to be stripped more and LZX'ed.
All kinds of programs...
Manilla2d - without the music tab because it takes more RAM and slows down the phone.
No Opera - OperaMini instead.
Free space with a lot of programs before I really clean it:
47mb of free storage
29mb of free RAM (WITH Manilla2d running.)
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Unbelievable! It's like a lite version with T2d installed...
What is the ETA? Can't wait to have it on my phone.
By the way, is it possible to have to music tab points to/integrated with S2P like what dan0zone suggested?
What kind of comm manager/phone dialer/etc do we have on this?
I want more information.... Thanks!

ive had JustClean sitting on my computer for months.. im so scared to try it cuz i havent done a SD flash yet. Ill do it on this one tho.

ivanmmj said:
Here's a sneak peak at the new JustFlo.
So far: Based on a modified version of Just2Clean. It's going to be stripped more and LZX'ed.
All kinds of programs...
Manilla2d - without the music tab because it takes more RAM and slows down the phone.
No Opera - OperaMini instead.
Free space with a lot of programs before I really clean it:
47mb of free storage
29mb of free RAM (WITH Manilla2d running.)
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Great idea bro,

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Great idea bro,
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The Opera thing was your idea.
I'm trying to figure out where the RAM goes to see if I can keep the music tab, but if I can't figure it out, I'm taking it off because you have a launcher that you can place a short cut to your music program anyways.
On a side note, for some reason, the youtube part doesn't work on my phone but it works on a buddy's Vogue.

ivanmmj said:
The Opera thing was your idea.
I'm trying to figure out where the RAM goes to see if I can keep the music tab, but if I can't figure it out, I'm taking it off because you have a launcher that you can place a short cut to your music program anyways.
On a side note, for some reason, the youtube part doesn't work on my phone but it works on a buddy's Vogue.
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It took me awhile, but I was able to get youtube to work on the wing. The bad note was that there was very little space left. The app is very nice, but not nice enough to justify the lost of memory. Thats why I went with your idea about using vtap.
We both hate fat roms.
But then thats every herald cooks obsticles when cooking roms.
Get the lzx thing working so we can create better herald roms.

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It took me awhile, but I was able to get youtube to work on the wing. The bad note was that there was very little space left. The app is very nice, but not nice enough to justify the lost of memory. Thats why I went with your idea about using vtap.
We both hate fat roms.
But then thats every herald cooks obsticles when cooking roms.
Get the lzx thing working so we can create better herald roms.
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I think that the LZX is ready for prime time but I need a cook's uncooked ROM to test it with. Care to be my guinea pig?

ivanmmj said:
I think that the LZX is ready for prime time but I need a cook's uncooked ROM to test it with. Care to be my guinea pig?
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I will creat a rom to be used for this project next week.
Lets get the herald to the next level.

This is gonna be sweet when its finished

robpet2 said:
This is gonna be sweet when its finished
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I'm thinking the same thing....I will be very interested to see the finished product as it could take the wing to a whole new level.

holiday5804 said:
I'm thinking the same thing....I will be very interested to see the finished product as it could take the wing to a whole new level.
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I already cooked up a bare bones rom, but still need to hack it up to insure a smooth feel and look.
Hang tight,

ivanmmj said:
Here's a sneak peak at the new JustFlo.
So far: Based on a modified version of Just2Clean. It's going to be stripped more and LZX'ed.
All kinds of programs...
Manilla2d - without the music tab because it takes more RAM and slows down the phone.
No Opera - OperaMini instead.
Free space with a lot of programs before I really clean it:
47mb of free storage
29mb of free RAM (WITH Manilla2d running.)
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Love the part about Opera, don't use it mini would work much better. Can't wait to see what you come up with.

ivanmmj said:
Here's a sneak peak at the new JustFlo.
So far: Based on a modified version of Just2Clean. It's going to be stripped more and LZX'ed.
All kinds of programs...
Manilla2d - without the music tab because it takes more RAM and slows down the phone.
No Opera - OperaMini instead.
Free space with a lot of programs before I really clean it:
47mb of free storage
29mb of free RAM (WITH Manilla2d running.)
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Sounds like the last rom i will flash until i put my wing to rest =) cant wait..

any eta for beta?

spacemonkey333 said:
any eta for beta?
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I LOVE the office
sorry I couldn't help it after seeing your avatar picture lol.
And oh yeah, this is ganna be awesome

Mod delete this thread

Unfortunately, there's been some unnecessary talk in my thread that has forced me to request a mod to delete it. In no way does this mean FingerMe is going to stop being developed, I will be releasing 0.5 soon in a new thread.
I also request that other people respect other's threads. We are a community here to help other people, and that has always been our mission. However, it gets difficult sometimes when our fellow cooks and users feel that their opinions mean more than the respect of others. It takes a lot of time and effort into making these ROMs, and many of the greatest cooks in these threads have had to sacrifice many hours of each day to try to make something great for you as a community. Therefore true respect is the very best gift you can give someone, but the very least that they deserve. You as a community of users and flashers of my ROMs are the ONLY judges to how well I can cook for you.
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Finger Me!!

tight name for a rom dude
but the rom looks awsome man MMS work rite?

guntcent said:
tight name for a rom dude
but the rom looks awsome man MMS work rite?
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Yep, MMS works right out of the box, just like the Ava ROM, thanks to ToadLife.

FingerMe!?
Yo Ace, wtf bro FingerMe! shouldnt be an apporiate name for a ROM it sounds dirty in a way.

very nice will keep watching till final release is out

this rom is very stable keep up da work bro

Looks like all the good HTC Mega packages are in there. I thought about releasing a ROM with them, too, but I decided that I'm going to stick to kitchen making for now.
I love the fact that we finally have full QVGA versions of all those programs instead of ported versions.
How's that comm manager treating you? It doesn't seem to like the Wing/Herald without some mods.

ivanmmj said:
Looks like all the good HTC Mega packages are in there. I thought about releasing a ROM with them, too, but I decided that I'm going to stick to kitchen making for now.
I love the fact that we finally have full QVGA versions of all those programs instead of ported versions.
How's that comm manager treating you? It doesn't seem to like the Wing/Herald without some mods.
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Well I haven't done a ton of testing on it. I just added the OEM packages and it worked. Haven't done a ton of testing on it. Just basic testing, and so far everything on that works.
Most of the modding I had to do was to get these things to work well with 6.1, but it's looking more and more like FingerMe 1.0 will be a Windows Mobile 6.5 release... I'll have to see how the RAM looks though.

apreichner said:
Well I haven't done a ton of testing on it. I just added the OEM packages and it worked. Haven't done a ton of testing on it. Just basic testing, and so far everything on that works.
Most of the modding I had to do was to get these things to work well with 6.1, but it's looking more and more like FingerMe 1.0 will be a Windows Mobile 6.5 release... I'll have to see how the RAM looks though.
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Yep, WM6.5 version is coming soon. Me and apreichner are teaming up. I'm doing the OS, he's doing the packages. It'll be boss. Thanks again, Ivan!!

the rom looks great. i think i'll give it a spin when im back from work today
keep up the good work!
btw i like the name haha

Do you think that the wifi Internet Sharing application will work on this ROM? I have tried it with several others, but with no success. I'm starting to think that I've broken the wifi chip somehow...

elazullizard said:
Do you think that the wifi Internet Sharing application will work on this ROM? I have tried it with several others, but with no success. I'm starting to think that I've broken the wifi chip somehow...
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Huh, I'd think it'd work on any ROM.
Does your WiFi work like normal??
And this ROM shouldn't be any different than the Ava ROM or the PointROM. They're all the same kitchen, and apreincher didn't change anything that would break WiFi.

guntcent said:
when i used the phone the ram dropped to 9mb
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LOL. That dam Phone Canvas.
(I'm just so damn fast at replying, that I quoted him in the future)

when i used the phone the ram dropped to 9mb

guntcent said:
when i used the phone the ram dropped to 9mb
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Wait a few seconds after exiting the phone canvas, it should go back up.

apreichner said:
Wait a few seconds after exiting the phone canvas, it should go back up.
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That's not working for guncent. He's still at 10 MB.
And I thought u were offline, apreincher? You're addicted.

Yep, unfortunately, those packages are meant to work with 6.5 so they go nutz with 6.1 at times.

elazullizard said:
Do you think that the wifi Internet Sharing application will work on this ROM? I have tried it with several others, but with no success. I'm starting to think that I've broken the wifi chip somehow...
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The free version of WifiRouter or whatever it's called isn't compatible with most 6.1 builds or any 6.5 builds.

Did you fix the problem of the growing cprog file that eventually eats up all storage memory. This has been reported to be a problem with the phone canvas from HTC mega

[ROM] SuperJustSurf [WM6.1]

This will be my first ROM. It may also be my final ROM, depending on how my sister likes it. I just ordered the Touch Pro 2 and am giving my Wing to my younger sister. This ROM will be made with SuperJustKitchen and include the new MotoSurf today plugin. I am trying to keep things as simple and stable as possible, that way people won't have it crashing all the time. I chose to use 6.1 because it would have more free memory than any 6.5 ROM. Screenshots and features will be edited in in a couple days.

when will be upload?

hanifudins said:
when will be upload?
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When he finishes it. He mentioned that he'll upload PICTURES in a couple of days, so it must not be ready, yet.

elazullizard said:
This will be my first ROM. It may also be my final ROM, depending on how my sister likes it. I just ordered the Touch Pro 2 and am giving my Wing to my younger sister. This ROM will be made with SuperJustKitchen and include most (if not all) of the HTC Mega packages. I am trying to keep things as simple and stable as possible, that way people won't have it crashing all the time. Screenshots and features will be edited in in a couple days.
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That's original...

apreichner said:
That's original...
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You forgot the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=543699

ace10134 said:
You forgot the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=543699
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It's still his own ROM. It's good to have variety and different mixes of things.
That's how things became the way they are now. Variety is life. ^_^

ivanmmj said:
It's still his own ROM. It's good to have variety and different mixes of things.
That's how things became the way they are now. Variety is life. ^_^
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That's just a lot of work though, to get something nearly identical to apreincher's ROM. And, those Mega packages aren't the easiest to work with. I'd personally just use Apreincher's ROM for a Mega-like ROM.

ace10134 said:
That's just a lot of work though, to get something nearly identical to apreincher's ROM. And, those Mega packages aren't the easiest to work with. I'd personally just use Apreincher's ROM for a Mega-like ROM.
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How do you know it won't be better if you never let it be?
For the longest time, when the great cooks of the herald were around, I was considered a minor player due to the fact that I made clean ROMs only. This was seen as a waste of time. Ttran was also seen as a copy of itje. But that later developed into a WHOLE different type of ROM. Every cook has dealt with a similar "this has already been made." Granted, this IS VERY similar (minus having my SuperJustKitchen ROM as a base instead of my JustMe's OEM as a base. (Since all other current kitchens are based off of my JustMe ROM. (Unless Apreincher started from scratch, which is cool either way.)
If he wants to make one from scratch (Well.. from my kitchen) then he should at least try. Worse case scenario, he will learn something from it. If it's worse than Apreincher's then he would have learned how to cook. If it's better, then you will have gained another great ROM.

ivanmmj said:
...when the great cooks of the herald were around,....
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That line brought a tear to my eyes. I don't know why.

ivanmmj said:
How do you know it won't be better if you never let it be?
For the longest time, when the great cooks of the herald were around, I was considered a minor player due to the fact that I made clean ROMs only. This was seen as a waste of time. Ttran was also seen as a copy of itje. But that later developed into a WHOLE different type of ROM. Every cook has dealt with a similar "this has already been made." Granted, this IS VERY similar (minus having my SuperJustKitchen ROM as a base instead of my JustMe's OEM as a base. (Since all other current kitchens are based off of my JustMe ROM. (Unless Apreincher started from scratch, which is cool either way.)
If he wants to make one from scratch (Well.. from my kitchen) then he should at least try. Worse case scenario, he will learn something from it. If it's worse than Apreincher's then he would have learned how to cook. If it's better, then you will have gained another great ROM.
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I have to agree with you on that note. The best you can do is to hope for the best, and learn from the mistakes. And I can promise you it wont be very hard to create something better than I have created. In fact, I hope he does do better. It raises the bar a little bit higher and makes me reach.
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...when the great cooks of the herald were around,....
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For some reason, I see Ivan giving a retirement speech that sounds something like this, "I'd like to thank all of those little cooks I had to step on to get here today." But in all seriousness, I think we're all trying to live up to par with Ivan's mad skillz.
ivanmmj said:
It's still his own ROM. It's good to have variety and different mixes of things.
That's how things became the way they are now. Variety is life. ^_^
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I was under the impression originality defined variety, but I see your point. I think my comment was directed to both the name of the ROM and the content.

Ah, sorry about that. I just barely started cooking this, anyway. So, for variety, why don't I take feature requests? Not only will this make the cooking process faster (until I meet a bug), but it will make it more enjoyable for all.

elazullizard said:
Ah, sorry about that. I just barely started cooking this, anyway. So, for variety, why don't I take feature requests? Not only will this make the cooking process faster (until I meet a bug), but it will make it more enjoyable for all.
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Wouldn't that slow down the cooking proccess? Requests are usually to add things, lol.
But one essential program is Opera Mini. If you need the OEM, then I can provide it, brougt to you by Ivanmmj.

Alright, nix the feature requests. I also changed the concept. Might as well try something new. Besides, the person who's getting the ROM hated Titanium and Manila.

elazullizard said:
Alright, nix the feature requests. I also changed the concept. Might as well try something new. Besides, the person who's getting the ROM hated Titanium and Manila.
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Lol. If you're trying MotoSurf, good luck.
First, that thing is a RAM hog.
Second, getting it to start up initially is tricky. You've gotta manually check it off in the Today settings, unless you somehow figure out the registry for that. Mr. Ill couldn't figure it out.
But good luck Mr. Elaztic. It's always good to start something new!

It has to be a variation of:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Today\Items\"Moto_HomeScreen"]
"Enabled"=dword:1
But after 4 different tries i gave up for now maybe you will have better luck.
I was trying on WM6.5 though.
Goodluck!

Well, this will be a 6.1 ROM. I need as much RAM as possible, so it will likely also be a clean ROM. Right now I'm trying out different things on my current ROM to see how the plugin works.

elazullizard said:
Well, this will be a 6.1 ROM. I need as much RAM as possible, so it will likely also be a clean ROM. Right now I'm trying out different things on my current ROM to see how the plugin works.
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You kind of ripped Ivan's naming scheme, but I guess it makes sense because you made it with Ivan's kitchen

[LEWLSWSE]Making G1 With Hero/Cupcacke----Faster/Smoother

If you are wondering what the hell [LEWLSWSE] stands for, Then your should know it stands for
"Life's Easier With Linux-Swap With Some Extras"
At first this thread was a hella lot of info and my opinions but, alot of people found this thread to be corrupt,stupid,pointless,G1bricking, and a hec of alot of typos. So I'm finally re-editing it to be Better than what it was before.
(oh yeah and for those who found the typos(as in bad commands) Thank You!) I was usually editing from my phone at like 1 in the morning so please don't be angry. And sorry for the bad language I've been qute furious the past week, due to the heat here in cali.
To start,
Linux-Swap( I want a faster Hero/Cupcake!!!! Is what your Saying )
1st things first
I'm not going to tell you whats the best Linux-Swap Size is, because mainly, I don't have your G1's. And all g1's are different and respond better, to certain size swaps. So pretty much I'm going to just give my G1's results and what was perfect for me and what ran better for ME, not you because like i said YOU have to find that sweet spot on your G1
and for me that sweet spot is 96mb.
Cupcake ROM's 4 Me:
For me all cupcake ROM's were perfect(kinda), I'm not gonna mention names here but in majority for a super highly responsive cupcacke.
Use 64mb
Hero ROM's:
In majority Hero ROM's need a swap. period.. because there super resource hoggers and require alot of G1 power/stuff to be running smoothly, plus the fact that it wasn't ment to be on a G1.(but that will soon change) Thanks to all the devs.
Anyways for me any pretty much all of the Hero ROM's, i found that 96mb is perfect for pretty much any, mainly because from everytime of flashing back and fourth on my G1 i found that 96mb was in the lead no matter what i did. And even though i felt dumb trying to outsmart the ROM cookers, I was successful, and was able to run a stable Hero for about a week, but longer then that i wouldn't know because, i quit the testing figuring it was perfect
In general Use 96mb
Now everybody remember this is MY G1 not yours
My G1 may and does act differently then your does. So you would have to find the sweet spot your self to find out what best for you,
In my opinion the majority of the dream owners find that 96mb was perfect for any ROM Cupcake/Hero
Basically 96mb is perfect for Someone who switches back from cupcake to hero, so its kinda hybrid like those ugly @ss cars you see on the street
And for me I guess im using a Hybrid Swap because i find, myself switching from stable cupcake to sluggish(remember thats ISH) Rosie. TO see how shes been doing(Kinda Better)
Am so yeah Linux-Swap play around with it find your G1's sweet spot
Its not that hard its actually quite easy, So have fun!
Anyways here the extras as i meantioned in the title.
(How to)Formating your SD, Then reformating it to fat32/ext2/linux-swap
How to Format(meaning everything deleted) your card using recovery console
however this is only through Cyanogens Recovery so if you don't have it, Get at it!!! HERE!!!
Right Click to save as .img
http://n0rp.chemlab.org/android/cm-...m/sd/*
and yes that is a star don't forget it

Need more info like (Hero)
1. How many screens do you use
2. What, if any widgets do you use
3. How many app icons (if any)
4. Do you use Mail or just gMail
5. How many apps are installed
I think all this is relevant due to the fact that the more stuff you have running will cause it slow down. What I mean by running? Well do you have Mail,Tweeter, Weather and so on, set up which checks for updates at timed intervals.

Wow. Seriously wow. Thank you for your research. Your scientifc approach rivals any I've ever seen. To put this in the language you used in the OP, I like (idk) can't believe I read the entire thread? I think.

miketaylor00 said:
Wow. Seriously wow. Thank you for your research. Your scientifc approach rivals any I've ever seen. To put this in the language you used in the OP, I like (idk) can't believe I read the entire thread? I think.
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Thanks for your help man, disregard people who post things like this to to try to look cool...

hgmarcia said:
Thanks for your help man, disregard people who post things like this to to try to look cool...
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I don't need to post on this thread to look cool. Please explain to me exactly how this rambling post full of anecdotal evidence helps improve the community?
I look forward to your response.

miketaylor00 said:
I don't need to post on this thread to look cool. Please explain to me exactly how this rambling post full of anecdotal evidence helps improve the community?
I look forward to your response.
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It helped me.

I have a 92mb swap and have to agree, it does help... although i still some rare loading screen(class4 sd). anyone tried over 110MB swap?

thank you for your efforts!
i have learned and will benefit from your work.

ok first things first
1 @ @ssHoles if you have nothing better to say then dont say it
2. if you guys are being smart @sses please tell me cuz on a forum its hard to tell rather or not you being sarcastic
3. Here welcome to all those that really think it helped
4.Thank you for the suggestions
5. 110mb?? esta loco!!! i havent tried
and really dont want to try, ive heard swap many times within the last 4 weeks im about to swap my hand with a gun and *BOOM*
but yeah 11omb if you wanna try it for me
then please do so
run all the widgets(if possible) and see what happens
and if you try it out for set the swappiness to 60 or 80

THis is a friendly forum and people don't mean any hard. Everyone needs to just chill out and enjoy this great thread and ignore other comments. Why should a comment on the internet bother you? Don't take offense to something written on a forum people. Come on people you guys are above this. Just read, post your opinion, and respect other's opinions. BTW after reading this all I need is bluetooth and fully functioning LEDs to run Hero now. Thanks jf4888!

as far as Swap partition is concern you should NEVER make it bigger than the actual RAM of your computer/phone.
So if the HTC Dream has 192MB of RAM (but only 98MB are free/usable/recognized by the OS) that means the linux-swap CAN be set to 96MB but it SHOULD NOT go any higher dont be absurd..
i've used 96MB with no problems "although it might become unstable in a long run".
so if you wanna use 96mb go ahead.. it will run just fine!
and if you like been a little superticious 192MB + 96MB ' linux-swap ' = 288MB (same of Hero's memory capacity) your Hero ROM might think you have the actual phone
gl hf

Waiting for answers to my questions please!
I have read people say "My hero is on crack, its so fast" only to find out they only use 1 or 3 screen and no widgets.
I personally tried 32, 96 and now on 64
I found 96 to work for a few days, mind you I was overclocking it and was using task killer and auto starts to modify what's runs at start up and killing apps every time I went home just to keep it running smooth. Pain ass! (And yes I excluded TouchFlo from task killer)
So I went with 64 and by far its more reliable and I have NOT used autostarts or task killer.
I I have NOT seen a htc or loading since boot up.

jf4888 said:
Well everybody, here I'm gonna explain to you what the best swap for you is etc
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jf4888 said:
ok first things first
1 @ @ssHoles if you have nothing better to say then dont say it
2. if you guys are being smart @sses please tell me cuz on a forum its hard to tell rather or not you being sarcastic
3. Here welcome to all those that really think it helped
4.Thank you for the suggestions
5. 110mb?? esta loco!!! i havent tried
and really dont want to try, ive heard swap many times within the last 4 weeks im about to swap my hand with a gun and *BOOM*
but yeah 11omb if you wanna try it for me
then please do so
run all the widgets(if possible) and see what happens
and if you try it out for set the swappiness to 60 or 80
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Mike has an excellent point... the fact is that everyone's phone is different, so while 30 swappiness on compcache, for example, is optimum for my phone, he may run at 25 to be as fast. I have to agree with his overall position, and I take exception to how you started off your original post. You don't know what's best for everyone else's phone.
Essentially, your results only apply to your phone. At best they're a good starting point for the rest of us... but that's it.
Aside from that, I'm surprised that many people are even running linux-swap partitions still... old tech.

Thank you this helped, I was using a larger swap then 32mb on JacxHero and was getting crazy FC errors like you said... now I know why it happened and can switch back to that rom later if I want.

How long did you run at each of these settings? What were you running? Was your setup even close to the same between the different ROMs? Which applications were your testing?
If you are using a 96Mb swap you better reboot your phone a lot or it is going to get really laggy. Ask Drizzy. He even posted on his twitter to everyone to stop whining that Hero slows down after a few days if they are going to use a 96Mb swap.
If you are using anything but Hero you should not be using swap at all. Compcache with backing swap is MUCH more efficient than regular Linux Swap. Maybe I should start a thread that says Don't Use Linux Swap with cupcake ROMs.

clefky10 said:
Thank you this helped, I was using a larger swap then 32mb on JacxHero and was getting crazy FC errors like you said... now I know why it happened and can switch back to that rom later if I want.
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Linux Swap is worse on xROM than any other ROM I have tried it on.
Why don't people listen to the recommendations of the developers who are cooking the ROMs?

jf4888 said:
ok first things first
1 @ @ssHoles if you have nothing better to say then dont say it
2. if you guys are being smart @sses please tell me cuz on a forum its hard to tell rather or not you being sarcastic
3. Here welcome to all those that really think it helped
4.Thank you for the suggestions
5. 110mb?? esta loco!!! i havent tried
and really dont want to try, ive heard swap many times within the last 4 weeks im about to swap my hand with a gun and *BOOM*
but yeah 11omb if you wanna try it for me
then please do so
run all the widgets(if possible) and see what happens
and if you try it out for set the swappiness to 60 or 80
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I'm sure your intentions are good but your method sucks. You have provided no details to what you did, how you did it, or why. If you want to explain exactly what you did and how you benchmarked your results that would be great. If you are just going to say "I tried this setting and it 'felt' faster" you are wasting your time. Did you use any benchmarking software? Did you run any specific processes and time them?

Cupcake vs. AOSP
Cupcake ROM's:
Cyanogens Mod's: From stable to unstable etc...
I found that with his ROM's you really dont need a huge partition(Kinda Obvious) and that pretty much running his ROM on any swap size
32,48,64,96,... is good it actually just gets better(for me).
So in General: Use a 64mb partiton, its perfect.
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JacXROM: This ROM actually doesn't need a swap(Its an AOSP) thats why but i just tested it out to see what happend, i actually found that it slowed down, after surpassing 32mb partition, for some reason it lost its snap and eventually became crazy, and forced me to flash back to cyan becuase of a crazy FC error with a bigger swap :/ ??.
So in general for Jacx Use a 32mb partition
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@jf4888 - What is the difference between a cupcake build and an AOSP build? Why does one need swap and the other one doesn't? Please explain this to me.
Edit: I'm sorry if you feel like I am being an jerk. I just hate to see people post threads where they give people misleading information, which you have. You lost all credibility with your post when you started saying that Cyan and xROM are different because one uses AOSP and the other uses cupcake. Not to mention your post was poorly worded and you added "I don't know" about things that you are claiming to know about. If I'm wrong and you can prove that you have found a magic configuration that works - prove it. Back up your findings with your method. Show us your work. Give us the details that we need to reproduce your findings.
If anyone would like some help getting their ROM running faster feel free to PM me. I haven't had a chance to tune anything for Hero but my configuration works really well with xROM and Cyan.

very nice thread
im currently using 32mb and hit a loading screen if i like leave peep on and my phone goes to sleep thats prob the only time
other than that im good
ill wait till drizzy drops the new hero and try out 96mbs and will load the phone with widgets and will post results
so far really nice thread
thanks for the hard work

thanks
thanks for this thread really helped me a lot