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Can't get rid of Oxios CloseApp/Hibernate, please help!

Hello All,
I am running
ROM: TNT.1933 TouchFLO Edition
I/SPL is 2.25
Radio is 2.19.11 and
OS is 11.0.0.1
TNT comes with Oxios Hibernate and CloseApps, which seems to have very naughty behavior on my system. I can only ever open one application, even if I just switch to “Today” from an open app, the app I was in closes (not shown in Task Manager, truly closed). This stinks. Tried to delete the .exe files, but can’t – they’re marked as “ROM” and “READ ONLY” and can’t make a change to those – just reverts right back. Also can’t kill the prog via task manager because it doesn’t show up there. Please please please tell me how to get rid of this program bundle – I really really hate it!
Thanks!
-tynk-

Both oxious closeapp and hibernate only do something when YOU run them...they run once and exit...the difference between the two is closeapps tries to close ALL apps...hibernate tries to free as much memory as it can without closing any apps.
Neither would be closing any apps without your knowledge.

that's what I thought, too!
But soft reset or shutdown/restart, and upon loading the today screen, the progs up and running (can see the closeapps bars in upper left corner of the screen). I checked startup and it isn't in there (even checked "show all files" in case it's hidden, but nothing).
From my research (yes, I did try figuring this out on my own - other than a couple mentions of instability with these two progs and WM6, there wasn't any good help to be found ), I thought if I didn't click on either icon, it wouldn't start but that doesn't seem to be the case here.
They are somehow loading/starting automatically, so even if I could change the attributes so they were 'delete-able', if I can't get them to stop running (again, neither is visible in taskmanager), I won't be able to delete them! Arrrggg!
Thanks for the response, though! Any other thoughts?

First, any programs built into the rom can NOT be removed. You could create dummy files (create a blank text file and rename it to the name of the file you want to "remove" and it will be used instead of the one in the rom).
For them to be starting automatically as you claim, then there has to be either a link for them in the \Windows\Startup folder, or an entry in the registry (look in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\init , or just do a search with a registry editor).
But as Famewolf indicated, what you are describing is NOT how either of these programs work. They don't stay in memory and continue to run. You start them, they try to free up memory (in two different ways depending on which one you run) and then put up a dialog to show you what they did. After you close the dialog then they exit.
I'm not doubting the behavior you are seeing on your phone, but I am doubting that you are looking in the right direction claiming that the Oxios apps are causing this. As I tell people that run my own roms... If things don't work for you, then switch to a different rom. Also, if you've installed ANYTHING on the rom, then make sure what you have installed is working properly and isn't what is causing the issue. If you hardreset or reflash, and do NOT install anything else, do you still see this same behavior?
Finally, due to the odd nature of your problem, did you by chance install the rom, then do some sort of restore from like spb backup or sprite backup or similar? If so, you've most likely screwed up the registry as you can not restore a backup from one rom to another one.
Good luck, and hope maybe this helps you in figuring out what is going on.

famewolf said:
Both oxious closeapp and hibernate only do something when YOU run them...they run once and exit...
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NOT TRUE!
oxios with skull icon(i forgot its name, because i am not using it, only hibernate..)WILL close ANY app that is running in background!!!!!
so be aware of this.,

nothin said:
NOT TRUE!
oxios with skull icon(i forgot its name, because i am not using it, only hibernate..)WILL close ANY app that is running in background!!!!!
so be aware of this.,
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guys, both of you are right
first, both oxios apps will be started after the request from the user, then do their job and exit. The skull-one will close apps, the snowflake (or what it is) will free memory. But none of the application will be running in background, closing everything the user starts

His observation is correct, silly as it may sound.
For a long time i wondered why my apps would keep closing (i was using mbutton so i could see which apps were open), as soon as i opened another app, the app which went to background would get closed, even though I would have plenty of program memory free. I started tracking the reason for this and soon found out that this behaviour started as soon as i executed oxios hibernate. It would keep happening until i did a soft-reset, after which the system would work fine until (guess what!) i ran the hibernate app again!
Best thing to do is get the sktools lite version and use its free ram shortcut. Or better yet, forget about free ram at all, remove all indicators on your today screen etc etc, and surprisingly you'll never be worried about free ram and your system will work smoothly enough. If you're so worried about free ram, schedule your system to automatically soft reset once a day during the night.

ammarr said:
His observation is correct, silly as it may sound.
For a long time i wondered why my apps would keep closing (i was using mbutton so i could see which apps were open), as soon as i opened another app, the app which went to background would get closed, even though I would have plenty of program memory free. I started tracking the reason for this and soon found out that this behaviour started as soon as i executed oxios hibernate. It would keep happening until i did a soft-reset, after which the system would work fine until (guess what!) i ran the hibernate app again!
Best thing to do is get the sktools lite version and use its free ram shortcut. Or better yet, forget about free ram at all, remove all indicators on your today screen etc etc, and surprisingly you'll never be worried about free ram and your system will work smoothly enough. If you're so worried about free ram, schedule your system to automatically soft reset once a day during the night.
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I use oxios hibernate ALL THE TIME..I even have it on a quick launcher button....having apps close on their own is NOT normal behavior and I'll say again oxios hibernate is not causing this..I keep palringo and other apps running all the time in background...either your registry had issues or your rom did because it works fine here...I sometimes go days without rebooting the phone because of oxios hibernate.

famewolf said:
I use oxios hibernate ALL THE TIME..I even have it on a quick launcher button....having apps close on their own is NOT normal behavior and I'll say again oxios hibernate is not causing this..I keep palringo and other apps running all the time in background...either your registry had issues or your rom did because it works fine here...I sometimes go days without rebooting the phone because of oxios hibernate.
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I have traced the problem specifically back to oxios hibernate. It does not happen with sktools free ram. For some reason the WM_HIBERNATE message doesn't die and keeps killing all background applications. I've had the problem on the stock wm5, ppctuning's superrom, wrcx1 etc etc (basically all ROMs i've tried).
There could be a reason why this is just happening for some devices, i dunno, but the culprit definitely is oxios hibernate.

Have you tried to check your softkeys? I had a problem with them and even if the label says an app when I pressed the button ot activated another thing... well that happeneded sometimes... now it works correctly...

Hi All,
Thanks for all the helpful responses. I really am stumped on this one. Checked my registry (did searches for 'oxios', 'hibernate', and 'close') and found nothing. Yet after a soft-reset or normal restart, it's up and running again, and I am unable to open multiple apps or switch from one to the other and back.
I did have an odd thought - I am assuming the program in question is Oxios CloseApps, but maybe I'm wrong? I can't access any of the options on it, so just occurred to me to check. On the today screen, upper right corner, next to the time is a set of 3 small horizontal bars (forming a box) with a small up arrow. Tapping this yields a single line iconic menu that has a set of three boxes, a wrench, and a 'memory' bar with %. If I click on the boxes or wrench, nothing happens. If I click on the memory icon, it takes me to my Memory setting, showing how much storage and program memory I have, my storage card, and my running progs (no, this is not ever listed there - if only it were that easy!) This is CloseApps, right?
Thanks again for all the help!

Tynkrrbell said:
Hi All,
Thanks for all the helpful responses. I really am stumped on this one. Checked my registry (did searches for 'oxios', 'hibernate', and 'close') and found nothing. Yet after a soft-reset or normal restart, it's up and running again, and I am unable to open multiple apps or switch from one to the other and back.
I did have an odd thought - I am assuming the program in question is Oxios CloseApps, but maybe I'm wrong? I can't access any of the options on it, so just occurred to me to check. On the today screen, upper right corner, next to the time is a set of 3 small horizontal bars (forming a box) with a small up arrow. Tapping this yields a single line iconic menu that has a set of three boxes, a wrench, and a 'memory' bar with %. If I click on the boxes or wrench, nothing happens. If I click on the memory icon, it takes me to my Memory setting, showing how much storage and program memory I have, my storage card, and my running progs (no, this is not ever listed there - if only it were that easy!) This is CloseApps, right?
Thanks again for all the help!
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the program you are talking about is
HTC Task-Manager 2.0 / x button
go to start - settings - system - task manager
steph

EMPTY Remove Programe In Settings Menu

I have installed applications around 45 (less than 50 for sure) but after installing the last three - four apps I found that Remove Program list is not showing anything. Immediately I removed the lastly installed four five programs using SK tools but the Remove Programs list is still blank although the programs were successfully removed. Everything is working alright though. I think something has crashed in Registry.
It also happened earlier and I had to hard reset to get it back. But this time I am seeking advices from anybody if there is a way to get back things anyway - probably by a Registry Edit.

parthabhatta said:
I have installed applications around 45 (less than 50 for sure) but after installing the last three - four apps I found that Remove Program list is not showing anything. Immediately I removed the lastly installed four five programs using SK tools but the Remove Programs list is still blank although the programs were successfully removed. Everything is working alright though. I think something has crashed in Registry.
It also happened earlier and I had to hard reset to get it back. But this time I am seeking advices from anybody if there is a way to get back things anyway - probably by a Registry Edit.
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this is a bug in windows mobile. we found it on the shadow on tmos stock rom.
there is no fix for it. just gotta use active sync to remove programs or like you used sktools.

OK, so I have to stay with the blank menu only till I hard reset.

parthabhatta said:
OK, so I have to stay with the blank menu only till I hard reset.
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yes sorry to say

I had the same problem after installing a bunch of programs and tools. But I think I found a solution: after removing VoxOC Setup.CAB "remove programs" is working again. I'm not sure that it was VoxOC Setup.CAB but give it a try....

Infact I dont have VoxOC installed in my device. So it might be something else. Anyway, thanks for your suggestion.

I installed the following programs from this thread:
- HTC_Task_Manager_2.1_34837.5.cab
- AudioManager_2.0_1819.1228.cab
- Dr. Gonzo s730 Audio Manager.cab
- Vox_BlackSecondHTCSplashscreen.cab
- Vox_BlackCommManager.cab
- Contact_changer_v1.3.cab
One of them is the villain and caused the remove program menu to appear empty! I would suspect the Second HTC Splashscreen as I had troubles removing the program...

[Q] SD-Card Apps Bug?

Hi there!
I think I discovered a bug, which as I can see occurs also to other none Sensation phones.
When I put a shortcut on the mainscreen, from an app which I installed on the SD-Card, after a reboot or shutdown the app Logo is replaced by the standard Android Logo and I can't start the app via the shortcut anymore. I have to delete it and then place the app again from the app-drawer on the mainscreen to get it work again.
Does someone else experience the same problem?
Cheers

Yeah that's happened to me too.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA App

I've experienced the first part where the android icon is displayed until the contents of the SD card are loaded ... it takes a minute and then the normal app icon is loaded
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mkouk said:
I've experienced the first part where the android icon is displayed until the contents of the SD card are loaded ... it takes a minute and then the normal app icon is loaded
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How many minutes does it take exactly? Because I didn't wait longer than maybe 2 or 3 minutes.
I think I'll send an e-mail to HTC to let them know about this problem.
Cheers

NeoDoRant said:
How many minutes does it take exactly? Because I didn't wait longer than maybe 2 or 3 minutes.
I think I'll send an e-mail to HTC to let them know about this problem.
Cheers
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it's a common problem. nothing to worry about.

When android phones first bootup and icon is status bar says sd is preparing, during this time the icon for apps on sd is incorrect, but should be fixed once sd is prepared by OS.

SD card bug
I'm having the same issue, picked up the Sensation yesterday. It doesn't matter how long you wait, the apps never recover. You have to remove the icons from the home screen. Plus apps that use a database stored on the SD will not work continuously, such as Touchdown from Nitrodesk. Other than this highly annoying bug, its a nice phone.

is this a common issue? i know that the OS has to mount the SD card and wait for a bit, but i waited all day and the icons are still screwed up. i had the G2 and had apps on the sd card and they load up fine after a few minutes.
would this be caused by the type/class of sd card? i have a 16gb class 10. the apps load up fine just the icons all look the same

fryrice8850 said:
is this a common issue? i know that the OS has to mount the SD card and wait for a bit, but i waited all day and the icons are still screwed up. i had the G2 and had apps on the sd card and they load up fine after a few minutes.
would this be caused by the type/class of sd card? i have a 16gb class 10. the apps load up fine just the icons all look the same
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Same here. On my wildfire it changes back to normal. But my sensation doesnt change back.

Have you reported this to TMO and HTC? Any response?

Yep, happens all the time. The recent update didn't resolve it.
There's a workaround however - you don't need to re-create the shortcut or anything, just go to Settings->Applications->Manage->All, scroll to HTC Sense (there would be two, we need the first one with a clock as a logo) and force close it. Press Home, HTC Logo appears, bam! Your icons are back. Highly annoying.

NeoDoRant said:
Hi there!
I think I discovered a bug, which as I can see occurs also to other none Sensation phones.
When I put a shortcut on the mainscreen, from an app which I installed on the SD-Card, after a reboot or shutdown the app Logo is replaced by the standard Android Logo and I can't start the app via the shortcut anymore. I have to delete it and then place the app again from the app-drawer on the mainscreen to get it work again.
Does someone else experience the same problem?
Cheers
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well its not the fone issue nor sd card...its app compatibility issue... most apps were designed for froyo...but now running them on 2.3.3 they waork on sd-card as well but their shortcuts do not identify them after restart coz they do not have exact icon update path...its an appp issue ...till its resolved plz keep apps on fone....do not worry u need to work hard to finish 1 gig by apps....and plz dt ever think apps on fone mk it slower...use advance task killer as well....

im just going to put the apps on the phone instead of sd card...until htc does an update, because when i used the gingerbread custom rom on the g2 it had no problem putting apps on sd card.

yeah happens to me too. Just kill sense to force it to reload and that fixes it ... until the the next reboot

[Q] App2sd causes boot loop issue

Guys see when i move my apps to the sd card with app2sd or any other program when i reboot my phone the home screen appears and then it does the media scanning and after that it boots continuously 5-10 times and stops after a factory reset. Anybody else having this issue. Please help!

I've heard that not all apps are compatible with app2sd. try moving them all back to where they were and move one at a time until it happens. take note of that app, move it back, and continue until you find all apps that cause this to happen. or, just don't use it. those are the only two options I know

supergaijin said:
I've heard that not all apps are compatible with app2sd. try moving them all back to where they were and move one at a time until it happens. take note of that app, move it back, and continue until you find all apps that cause this to happen. or, just don't use it. those are the only two options I know
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Thanks Supergaijin! I do not use the app now! Do u remember u helped me to root my phone and then it caused boot loop. It was because of app2sd!

wow, at least it was a simple fix. sorry you gotta keep your stuff on the phone, tho

I install games and app too.almost alll app force to external sd card (except have related with the widget and system running)..no fc and reboot at all..
Later i add screen shot to prove..
Now i cant use usb connect to pc coz i testing battery performance now.

but was that with app2sd or titanium?

RonnYap said:
I install games and app too.almost alll app force to external sd card (except have related with the widget and system running)..no fc and reboot at all..
Later i add screen shot to prove..
Now i cant use usb connect to pc coz i testing battery performance now.
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here screenshot..force app to external sd

again, was that with app2sd or titanium?

supergaijin said:
again, was that with app2sd or titanium?
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I use Force2SD.apk(is root app) app to force all app to external sd..This can save your internal phone storage..
App2sd.apk some app cannot to external sd..No titanium at all..

thanks, that info will help those that were trying to use app2sd but finding errors like android crazy (not me)

not use app2sd.

i never had this issue using sam lus app2sd but im not sure also it was working at all! i mean i can see the app size reduce, and usb sdevice has the application but i didnt have any bootloop...

RonnYap said:
I install games and app too.almost alll app force to external sd card (except have related with the widget and system running)..no fc and reboot at all..
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I too have this issue... I've been pretty aggressive about moving apps first with Apps2SD, but also with Titanium. I've now removed Apps2SD but can't shake the reboot issue. I've found that with the phone in Airplane mode, the reboots are minimized and the phone ultimately does settle... but its going to be tough to figure out whats causing the reboots.
Any ideas, other than brute iteration

Application is not installed on your phone :(

okay this happened today afternoon i was going to activate my data network and phone suddenly went off then i tryed to switch it on after pressing power button for quite a while phone turned on but my home screen and other setting went back to stock means my laucher was nova/apex which didnt turn show up and all other apps were missing but some apps which i installed on external sd was showing up but the apps in my phone internal memory didnt show up many apps icon wasnt there but was showing my in seetings - application some apps name was there in app drawwer but icaon was missing when i try to open it was showiing error that APPLICATION IS NOT INSTALLED ON YOUR PHONE.Even play store is showing error my contacts and all other things are there in internal memory all aplication folder is present but apps are not showing up. i will attacth two screenshots hope someone will help to solve this urgently.
my phone is running on stock rom (ICS)

I think your sdcard is not mounted.. check it in storage...

karthik050782 said:
I think your sdcard is not mounted.. check it in storage...
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external sd card is mounded like am playing songs from it.

Restart it again