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I-Mate 9502

Will we have imate 9502 forum over here, as i am thinking to buy it when it will release.
Edit: I have made a new forum for Imate 9502 login at aboutfone.com

samy.3660 said:
Will we have imate 9502 forum over here, as i am thinking to buy it when it will release.
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is it made by htc??? (no need to answer it here, just think about it)

Not, but even O2 Atom is not made by HTC?

samy.3660 said:
Not, but even O2 Atom is not made by HTC?
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so you don't know the story bout the atom
read and you will find out. (look up the flame thread)

is it HTC developers or XDA developers?
just thinking

fallenczar said:
so you don't know the story bout the atom
read and you will find out. (look up the flame thread)
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You mean, flame thread as in, people flaming people, or the Xda Flame thread?

Another indicator of if it gets a forum here is "will it ever see thelight of day?" I-Mate's almost as dead as a door nail.

I'm bringing this thread back to push for an I-mate 9502 forums on here. This is honestly one of the main factors on wether or not I will buy this device (if/when it's released). I love this forum and it has helped me so much with my Vox and my Feeler, I would love to have the same support if I were to buy a 9502.

actually, that's a bit unlikely, as it's not HTC-made. The forum has specialized in HTC only so far, save for a few **ahem** Atom**ahem**

I would also love it if XDA-Dev got a 9502 forum.
The phone looks perfect! I actually sold my bnib Voda V1615 / tytn II upgrade to get some cash for it!
However, being Windows Mobile it will doubtlessly be utterly useless without the XDA-Dev geniuses to iron out all the creases.
I don't see why it can't go in here. It's replaced HTC as the XDAs in the southern hemisphere (i-mate's smartphone range).
I don't see why people are so keen to keep the forum exclusively for High Tech Crap anyway. Until the Wizards they've always been terrible (of course I still loved tweaking with them with the help of XDA-Dev).

Actually, not all Southern hemisphere. In Asia, even Southern and Southeastern, HTC still dominates the WM market. Sorry to burst your bubble mate. But the final decision really would be up to the mods, wouldn't it?

jomo25 said:
Another indicator of if it gets a forum here is "will it ever see thelight of day?" I-Mate's almost as dead as a door nail.
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Nope, it isn't dead - and, fortunately, they don't return to HTC, as opposed to what the rumors said before MWC.

raymondu999 said:
Actually, not all Southern hemisphere. In Asia, even Southern and Southeastern, HTC still dominates the WM market. Sorry to burst your bubble mate. But the final decision really would be up to the mods, wouldn't it?
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I'll mention this question too in the Mod forum, albeit, I'm afraid, the answer will be no.

it doesnt matter if there' a imate 9502 forum or not. just use the cab files from this site and put it in Ultimate! i just put PIE 6.1 on Imate 6150!

netnerd said:
it doesnt matter if there' a imate 9502 forum or not. just use the cab files from this site and put it in Ultimate! i just put PIE 6.1 on Imate 6150!
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Some of them will work, but I think a lot of the things that need fiddling with in the registry and I-mate's own bits of software will need device-specific tweaks.
Either way, I can have a tinker, but lack the technical know-how to do anything major. I guess if the device become popular enough we might end up with a forum for it.

Guys and gals, I’ve just posted a HUGE roundup & quick review of i-mate’s all four new devices to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1967268

I read on Whirlpool forums that Telstra Australia will be the first to get the 9502, but someone just posted this:
"Just spoke to my telstra contact and he confirmed the 9502 failed testing was due for release on the 10th of march he said it is likelty to be released on the 24th but that isn't confirmed yet."
Lame. I want it now.

Ultimate 9502 Thread
Surely we shouldn't discount the Ultimate 9502 just because it's not made by HTC.
The 'Welcome' message admits that the name XDA-Developers is pretty arbitrary, it just so happened that an O2 XDA of some model was the first that they happened to have, and that would make it more O2 than HTC.
I would say that what is much more important is that the 9502 is a WindowsMobile Pocket PC, and it will have the same kind of issues as the other Windows Mobile Pocket PCs discussed here, including other I-Mate devices, and especially the Kaiser which has (from what I understand) the same chipset.
So can we have a forum for the 9502 (and I guess the other Ultimates as well)?

Ultimate 9502 Availability
As far as when the 9502 will be available from Telstra, they were able to take my order as of last Thursday. I'd say they would only do that if the issues had been sorted.

Imate 9502 is IN STOCK from here but i not sure how accurate is that!
http://www.devicewire.co.uk/i-mate-ultimate-9502

Suggestionz please!

Hi Reader,
As a request, Id like to ask for a favour in helping me get a new phone.
Been using a HP IPAQ rw6828 for a yr now, and quite frankly didnt disliked it much.Need to change to a WM6.. have had a enough of all the Nokias.
Used the Black N95 for abt a day and got rid of it.
Kaiser TYTN II/ Blackberry Curve or anyone you guys could suggest.
Apologies if this is the wrong forum but didnt found any other forum best suited for this.
Cheerz

I suggest the Tilt....

Thx
Hi Bruv!
1st up thx for the reply!!...I kinda like the black one too... I guess tilt and Tytn II are same... js the weight thing kinda puit me off....
i noe this is XDA PDA forum, but Blackberries are outta liking??
Anyhow... I see you guys breaking a lotta code n making new ROMS... id suppose HTC TYTNII can be tested for a lot of ROMS and softwares.. can it?

tytnII and tilt are identical except for the difference that the tytnII has the front camera while att has cleverly removed that from the tilt.
As far as upgrades go there are a ton of options available here. All depends on what you want and which route you want to go on. Before doing any upgrades though i highly recommend that your read the kaiser wiki.
If you are going to be flashing new roms than don't forget to flash hardspl first to your device; again this is all explained in kaiser wiki so please do read it if you plan on going that far with device.
As far as suggestion i definitely recommend the tilt. It is a great phone/pda/micro laptop and has the capabilities to do alot of wonderful things.
enjoy,
peace
sire

Cheerz bro!...
Will go on wid TyTN II
XDA fo sure roks!

New Update By Htc

i think is time to downgrate to wm 6 ...........
yes 6 not 6.1 with all these issues and bugs and problems....
and then sell all of us our kaisers
i'm tired of this [email protected]#king htc's policy
what reason for,keep trying manage to work wright a device,that cost us more than 750e??
what reason for,keep buying from this screwed company named HTC ?????
sory for my tone but i can't stand any more this condition

redundant blame thread... it should be off-topic?
we all know that the Official wm6.1 upgrade Sucks...
Mods, could you close this thread?

zaharakis said:
i think is time to downgrate to wm 6 ...........
yes 6 not 6.1 with all these issues and bugs and problems....
and then sell all of us our kaisers
i'm tired of this [email protected]#king htc's policy
what reason for,keep trying manage to work wright a device,that cost us more than 750e??
what reason for,keep buying from this screwed company named HTC ?????
sory for my tone but i can't stand any more this condition
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I hear ya, but thats why we have wonderful chefs

Isaygarcia said:
redundant blame thread... it should be off-topic?
we all know that the Official wm6.1 upgrade Sucks...
Mods, could you close this thread?
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but somewhere we have to say it loud about this ..
and is better say it in another thread (like this one )and not to fill all other threads

Things that might improove
Hey,
The ROMs here are actually quite good but even if the ROM from HTC (the new one) does not compare with the ones made by XDA gurus they did some nice stuff...for example clearing the storage automatically after flash (no hard reset??) and the radio looks to be quite good it has all the countries in EUR now and the auto network configuration actually works...and there is no bluetooth activated right after flash...
Maybe some of these good things can be implemented in the new custom ROMs also...

More than blaming HTC for its ****-ROMs , we should contact the people who is working on port the Diamond drivers.

i think that zaharakis says what we all feel
htc tricked us
i can play videos and emulate gba games fluently at mt 3 years old ipaq 2490
while i cannot even turn the screen instantly to the stupid kaiser
and think how it would be if we didn't have the chefs

Isaygarcia said:
More than blaming HTC for its ****-ROMs , we should contact the people who is working on port the Diamond drivers.
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This phone does what i need it to do. And when the next greatest ppc comes out il be getting that.

Isaygarcia said:
redundant blame thread... it should be off-topic?
we all know that the Official wm6.1 upgrade Sucks...
Mods, could you close this thread?
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On the contrary...
Posts like this are nothing but the reflection of all the frustrated HTC users like me and if and only if people from HTC get to see this kind of bad publicity who knows, maybe they change their stupid policies...
Here's hoping...

Rayan said:
On the contrary...
Posts like this are nothing but the reflection of all the frustrated HTC users like me and if and only if people from HTC get to see this kind of bad publicity who knows, maybe they change their stupid policies...
Here's hoping...
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I wished the same thing until I realized that here in this forum we only represent negligible fraction of what could make an impact at all for their revenues.

hi guys,
i used the kaiser since few month with the org. german vodafone rom 1.58.... and all thinks work fine except voip with the rear speaker problem, and no drivers .. we all know.
Yesterday I use the new official german rom and this works so bad for me ... same speed, problems with the touchscreen, BT headset works but kaiser works slow with BT on.
Before I throw the Kaiser off the window :-/ I wait for a community rom with diamond drivers and give the people here a detonation for that. No more money to HTC from me.
Greets ChriZZ

Why don't we all let HTC know this... Mail them, all of you, it's costing them money and time to reply to those mails.
Still didn't get a driver, which they promised us and a crappy performance when it comes to graphics... So don't frustrate the people over here with your shortcomings, but irritate the HTC staff .
That's just my point of view...
(For example: create an example mail (like the one on htcclassaction (or so) and mail it all to this crappy company)

Cooked wm6.1 ROM > *anything

dubbeld00 said:
Why don't we all let HTC know this... Mail them, all of you, it's costing them money and time to reply to those mails.
Still didn't get a driver, which they promised us and a crappy performance when it comes to graphics... So don't frustrate the people over here with your shortcomings, but irritate the HTC staff .
That's just my point of view...
(For example: create an example mail (like the one on htcclassaction (or so) and mail it all to this crappy company)
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your point is good my friend ..but you think they don't allready know it??
i don't believe that no one in htc didn't try first this update,before releasing it in public
so they just yellow us for another one time

Sorry..Why u r angry?...also all the coocked 6.1 ROMs are sucks...i tried theme all ( full of bugs ) and dont let u even use the device the way u like...
am using the HTC offecial ROM i ( WM 6 ) all the needed program are running very good ( Arabiser for the arabic users like me although this arabizing softwares did is not the offecial for HTC, windows live working,Skyps workin, camer i dont use so musch but the pic's i took are very good,GPS working ( using sygc7...so what else you dream off ????????? the only this that make me try the 6.1 is the sound of my Gabra 8040 voice is not that loud i need ( i live in a noisy country)...and just we all should know that this is a PPC not a PC u ca not just load it with tons of programs
the only thing i think HTC should do is to use MVC insted of the buil in program althought that program runs very good but we all like the MVC

I remember when!
Remember when they "HTC" announced the Kaiser II , the promo how cool it looked. We all couldn't wait, built in GPS smaller design "not as thick" I fell for the hype. Now what are they pushing the "DIAMOND" wow lets all sell our Tilt's and Kaisers II on eBay and go out and buy a Diamond. but wait what is the Diamond missing what are it's short falls. Do we all trust HTC since they have been so honest with us up to now, it seems that everyone is tring to make a Iphone look alike. If you want an Iphone buy one. it's cheeper then a Kaiser II and you can get 2 for the price of a Diamond. I like my Tilt and I am going to keep it. but I don't like HTC and I would be willing to contribute to any legle suite or team that can go after HTC and hold them accountable. They may reside in a foreign country but I live in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, and we know how to screw someone in court. Land of the Free and home of the Class action suite! I am extremely happy to belong to this XDA community, I feel like this is a big extended family and we have family members all over the world. We have all been waiting long enough and apparently in vein, for HTC to release video drivers. I believe they never had any intention of correcting these problems. Oh and one more thing I never used a Windows machine at home until I got my first HTC device Samsung SX66, then 8525 now the Tilt. I am a die hard Mac user have always been. but in the world of PDA's Windows is King! I can't get what I need out of an Iphone and looks like I am not going to get what I expect from HTC. Shame on you HTC you took a customer that bought a new device each and every year and drove me to this. maybe your next years P&L will open your eye's.
Ed...

I'm sorry, but how exactly does moaning about a multi-milion dollar company on a developer forum do any good?
I'm sure the folks at HTC are reading all this on a daily basis, and take pity on your plight, and will be releasing a driver asap to make us all happy.
The kaiser does what it's supposed to - it's a business centric device and as for the multimedia part, it might not be a monster, but it does do the job relatively well.
Face it, HTC doesn't care about a 7 month old device, neither do they care about you. Try and think about it from their point of view - Releasing a brand new device boasting of 3D capabilities is MUCH better for sales than worrying about implementing it on an already released crippled one.
With that said, I hope this will be the last of such threads and the ROM development forum is no place for this sort of rant anyway.

So... after thinking it for a long time I have gone back to the original WM 6.0 ROM.
- Official WM 6.1 update by HTC: No text in landscape mode, programs crashing, skype does not work
- Cooked ROMs based on this: same problems with landscape
- Cooked ROMs with 1.65 radio: do not work well with my router, slow GPS fix
- Other cooked ROMs: display problems, have many programs I have no use for or I have to install others that came as standard (this leads to little storage free at the end). Skype does not work on most cases.
- Original ROM: Big free storage, GPS works fast, WiFi works, Skype works, all programs work, no crashes.
So, by updating what the hell do I gain?
My other choice would be WM 6.1 3.02 ROM, I've been using it for weeks, but hell, in the original ROM skype works.

nphil said:
I'm sorry, but how exactly does moaning about a multi-milion dollar company on a developer forum do any good?
I'm sure the folks at HTC are reading all this on a daily basis, and take pity on your plight, and will be releasing a driver asap to make us all happy.
The kaiser does what it's supposed to - it's a business centric device and as for the multimedia part, it might not be a monster, but it does do the job relatively well.
Face it, HTC doesn't care about a 7 month old device, neither do they care about you. Try and think about it from their point of view - Releasing a brand new device boasting of 3D capabilities is MUCH better for sales than worrying about implementing it on an already released crippled one.
With that said, I hope this will be the last of such threads and the ROM development forum is no place for this sort of rant anyway.
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It helps if we don't buy into their next product. Multi-million dollar companies are made buy consumers. If you take away the consumer then you don't have a multi-million dollar company.

why dont we all put our kaisers in a big bag and then take this bag in a helicopter and release over HTC Corp. (with some TNT, or some Hydrogen in Fusion) and Bang !

PPC / WinMo Preferences

Guys, I've been wondering for quite some time if there is a PPC out there that "completely satisfies" the needs of various users. Therefore, if it isn't too much trouble, would you mind listing:
1) Key features you would like in a PPC
2) Any PPCs currently in the market (or in the soon-to-be market, i.e. Touch Pro 2) that fit the bill?
**Note: I don't necessarilly want you to limit yourself to WinMo phones; Symbian, BlackBerry, Android, Palm, and even Apple (yes I know...) phones are OK.
For example, I own a Touch Pro and would prefer:
- Larger screen
- Capacitive screen
- More responsiveness (most likely due to a faster processor)
- Thinner (to complement the larger screen to make it easier to type)
Anyways, thanks for taking a look and especially if you contribute.

Really, no one is willing to help my research?
So far, I've only had one Voter. Though appreciated, I'm afraid it's simply not enough.
C'mon guys, what have you got to lose? You'll be expressing your opinion on a matter which I'm sure is on most people's minds here at the forum as well as helping out a fellow member.
Maybe this thread was simply overlooked. Therefore, I feel a BUMP is in order.

Two votes now!

you need a catagory 'non of the above' for us WM fans!
btw, there are so many polls around here the last year...maybe some info in them for your research.

orb3000 said:
Two votes now!
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And one for the Universal from your Sig (despite being a TP user).
galaxys said:
you need a catagory 'non of the above' for us WM fans!
btw, there are so many polls around here the last year...maybe some info in them for your research.
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Windows Mobile is a given considering the forum. If I had that option, nearly 100% of the votes would be WinMo. I just wanted to know what alternatives you guys like AND WHY <= still need info.
Could you direct me to any "current" polls that may be related to this thread?

I first started with the Palm505...got hooked. Then switched to windows mobile 2003- it sucked. Then got me a Tungsten TX-it was better...but then found my dream pda...Tungsten C... there is where I found great apps and used it everyday! Now, I have the HTC Mogul running windows mobile 6.1.... love it.... but once in a while I find myself missing some of Palm's apps... not available on WM6.
I bought my wife a treo 750p... she catches me once in a while admiring the buttons and apps...

BB Storm FTW!!!!

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I first started with the Palm505...got hooked. Then switched to windows mobile 2003- it sucked. Then got me a Tungsten TX-it was better...but then found my dream pda...Tungsten C... there is where I found great apps and used it everyday! Now, I have the HTC Mogul running windows mobile 6.1.... love it.... but once in a while I find myself missing some of Palm's apps... not available on WM6.
I bought my wife a treo 750p... she catches me once in a while admiring the buttons and apps...
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So the main reason you like your PPCs is the Apps, right?
TheChampJT said:
BB Storm FTW!!!!
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Surprise, surprise.
Don't see many Storm lovers around .

WildAce786 said:
I just wanted to know what alternatives you guys like AND WHY <= still need info. Could you direct me to any "current" polls that may be related to this thread?
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Here's a current discussion with a lot of scoop and why info: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=501708

ROM Comparison chart

I thought I'd leave you all with the ROM comparisons that I did when I was actively using my Universal. Half way through I upgraded to 128 MB, so this is reflected in some of the memory readings.
These are my own personal findings - I tested programs on the ROMs that I was interested in. Perhaps I'm opening a can of worms here, but I hope you find it useful.

Thanks Jonny!
Great information, will add to the FAQ
How do you feel with your new Rhodium?

My new rhodium is great - I'm not looking back! (Oops, perhaps I shouldn't have posted that here!). I know it doesn't run WP7, but there is certainly life in it yet (and I have a lot of bought programs which run on WM6.5 only, so I'm quite happy).

I enjoyed too my Rhodium!
And moved to Leo was a big shock for me coming from a real keyboard line devices...
I expect to go back to keyboard devices soon as I find a similar spec HTC device

Jonny could You paste this file with .xls extention? I don't have Office 2007 and i cannot get into it
Thx in advance
BR
buzolek

Ok, updated first post to include excel 2003 version Rom Compare3.xls

very useful information!thanks

Great
OMG...
You HAVE used your Uni buddy!
And I thought I was a serious user...still using though...nobody in my town knows what a 128 MB Uni means to me...will just keep it till I grow old.
I'm waiting for a really good WP7 piece...checked one HD7...but the software glithces.. or shortcomings are too many....let's see.

Hey kalya! nice to see you around
Perhaps would be wise to wait for Touch Pro 7

-Jonny- said:
I thought I'd leave you all with the ROM comparisons that I did when I was actively using my Universal. Half way through I upgraded to 128 MB, so this is reflected in some of the memory readings.
These are my own personal findings - I tested programs on the ROMs that I was interested in. Perhaps I'm opening a can of worms here, but I hope you find it useful.
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Great job!! Obrigado!

what next?
I don't know Orb...which would be my WP7 handset.
As always , win mo are dull,very down to earth,mature looking gadgets...they will never be fun and I accept that....
Just waiting for a great hardware & the new OS's perfect synchronisation.
Uni was it...we got maximum from it...but my country's mobile network never caught up with the handset.
Just waiting for it...hoping...HTC would almost deliver and I know XDA members will make it perfect.

Yes it´s true...
I have played with WP7 on my Leo and decided to go back to WM/Android as it´s to damn closed platform it seems like apple...
If WM is really dying which I doubt I think I go to Android instead...
Please let me know what you finally decide to upgrade
Cheers,

Maybe Galaxy Tab if nothing good comes out in the near future.
We win mo users don't want a new OS or high config devices as much we need really new --FRESH-- apps,but maybe the new apps reqire both the things..OS+new hardware.
Otherwise I stll have some of the handsets in my sig(and some nokia ones also)