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any hope for my SDA? cannot get into the bootloader

got an SDA with no prior knowledge of its history other than "it wouldn't power on" well when I got it the battery was completely dead "0 volts". Since I didn't have an external charger I did a little work to my external MPx220 charger "uses a 3.6v LiIbattery" to fully charge the SDA battery. I put it in and tried the key sequence to get the bootloader to appear.. no go. Tried camera button while I plugged in USB with and without battery.. nothing. So I left it plugged in while I was searching the forums last night for more information the screen turned white and all the keys lit for about a minute then it turned off again.. and I haven't been able to get it to repeat this since.. is there any hope at this point? Thanks!

now I'm confused.. I've seen yet another method for entering bootloader on the Tornado's http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Tornado the camera + botton on opposite side and power.. this doesn't seem to work for me either.. but which one is right? does the battery need to be in or out? usb plugged or unplugged.. I can't believe this device would be so "dead" as to not do anything at all.. will T-Mobile honor the year warranty of these new phones?

Is this model just so new that not much is known about it? I'm surprised that I haven't gotten any type of input yet.

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To me it seems like the battery is not charging at all. I've seen this with Motorola Li-Ion batteries. Unless there is enough amperage in the charger, the battery won't charge, regardless of what it looks like. If you really want to go forward with this, one idea may be to get an actual SDA charger, or replacement battery.

bipinsen said:
To me it seems like the battery is not charging at all. I've seen this with Motorola Li-Ion batteries. Unless there is enough amperage in the charger, the battery won't charge, regardless of what it looks like. If you really want to go forward with this, one idea may be to get an actual SDA charger, or replacement battery.
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Or maybe a Motorola charger? USB cable is 5v, Motorola charger w/USB connector is 5.9v. Motorola phones can charge from PC USB port/hub, but only if the phone is turned on. If phone cannot be turned on because the battery is dead, you need the wall charger...

SDA won't power on: How to determine a working battery

I woke up to find my SDA powered off and unable to power on, which was odd considering it was plugged in to a (Motorola) charger.
Since the orange charge light doesn't come on at all, I suspect it's just a dead battery. I've touched the battery contacts to a battery tester with no response - as if the battery is totally dead, which is promising. However, I can't be sure I'm doing it correctly since I've never tried this on a battery I know is working.
There are 4 contacts on the battery, and I'm wondering if there's more to it - like needing to have 2 contacts touching the positive lead and the other 2 touching the negative lead.
Can someone try testing their battery and see which contacts give a live (charged) result?
Thanks

kentchristopher said:
I woke up to find my SDA powered off and unable to power on, which was odd considering it was plugged in to a (Motorola) charger.
Since the orange charge light doesn't come on at all, I suspect it's just a dead battery. I've touched the battery contacts to a battery tester with no response - as if the battery is totally dead, which is promising. However, I can't be sure I'm doing it correctly since I've never tried this on a battery I know is working.
There are 4 contacts on the battery, and I'm wondering if there's more to it - like needing to have 2 contacts touching the positive lead and the other 2 touching the negative lead.
Can someone try testing their battery and see which contacts give a live (charged) result?
Thanks
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Normally you shouldn't try to use chargers not designed for your phone. What has probably happened is that there wasn't enough current output in the charger, and it completely drained your battery. Your battery is probably fine. Get a proper SDA charger and try charging it again. You can even take it to a store and ask them to plug it in for 15 minutes while you browse the new phones.

Yeah - I lost the original charger, but I've been charging with this Motorola one (output 5V / 550 mAh) and via USB for the past 6 months without problem. I still think it may be the battery because it was at 50% when I went to sleep.
What are the output specs of the original charger?

kentchristopher said:
Yeah - I lost the original charger, but I've been charging with this Motorola one (output 5V / 550 mAh) and via USB for the past 6 months without problem. I still think it may be the battery because it was at 50% when I went to sleep.
What are the output specs of the original charger?
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The stock HTC charger (model ADP-5FH K) has output of 1A at 5V. But if you had no trouble charging before it shouldn't be a issue, unless the charger/battery is faulty.
If you have a multimeter you can verify this. To check if your battery is charged place contacts in (+) and (-) contacts on your battery and it should show ~3.7V. I just tried this.

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The stock HTC charger (model ADP-5FH K) has output of 1A at 5V. But if you had no trouble charging before it shouldn't be a issue, unless the charger/battery is faulty.
If you have a multimeter you can verify this. To check if your battery is charged place contacts in (+) and (-) contacts on your battery and it should show ~3.7V. I just tried this.
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Thanks, silencer. I don't have a multi-meter, but I was using the battery tester as a way to gauge whether it was putting out any current at all, and it sounds like it's not. You were testing the 1st and 4th contacts?
I have read elsewhere that if your battery goes below 10-20% you won't be able to charge it with anything but the stock charger, so I think that's the problem, but I'll probably order a new battery as well just in case.

Yes I check the voltage between first and forth contact. What sort of battery tester are you using? Is there a digital read out display?
You can also try a USB to mini-usb cable to see if the battery get charged. From what I can remember USB ports are designed to give 500mA at 5V, but I have charged my phone when it was flat using a USB cable.

To follow-up in case anyone has this problem in the future: I ordered a new original charger (ADP-5FH) off eBay and with it, the phone's orange charge light came on right away and after giving it a full charge my phone is back up and running.
I'm inclined to think that it's not the difference in mAh of the original charger (1000mAh) vs USB charging (500mAh), but that there is something unique to the original charger which can "turn on" the charging when the battery is completely dead - perhaps something communicated by one of the extra pins in the mini-USB connection.

HTC Dream/G1 power problems

Hi all,
Recently I purchased the above phone off ebay, and it has worked fine up until the battery dying, and now after charging for an hour or so it will not power up.
it just lets out a single vibration. While it is on charge it displays the red light continuously as it is should. I don't think it is a battery fault as there have been 2 provided and I have tried them both.
I have both a charger and usb cord and have tried them both, and when plugged into the usb port it occasionally displays the "device malfunction" error
When earlier connected to my computer when the phone was powered up and fully functioning it connected to my pc perfectly with no problem
Any idea what the fault is?
Thanks

Is the battery an OEM HTC battery? I've heard some phones and chargers dont agree with aftermarket batteries. Grab one or two OEM ones from eBay. They're dirt cheap. Just make sure its OEM.

Turns out the display ribbon had split.
Ordered a new one and fitted it today, problem now is that my hinge is really stiff. I'm working from the service manual I downloaded from online, theres not much detail in how to make sure the ribbon or anything isnt affecting the hinge.
Other than that my phone works fine and has charged up perfectly

[Q] Photon Q got hot now won't power on

Hi everyone,
My first post as I haven't been able to find an answer. My Photon Q was probably about 30% charge when I last checked with it on. An hour or 2 later it was a little warm and was off. So I went to charge it using the car charger with 500mah charge rate. I came back about an hour later and the phone was really hot and no charging screen so I unplugged it. The green led light is lit when the phone is plugged in.
I tried holding the power button and volume down button, but it won't boot. If I have the usb charging cable plugged in from a PC or charger adapter when pressing those buttons, the green light will flicker off for a fraction of a second.
I then proceeded to dismantling the phone as I suspect a battery issue and the one in this phone is stupidly non-removable. After taking the back cover off, I tested the battery posts and received 0 volts. I still don't know if the battery caused the drain or if there's a short in the phone. I then took off the inside cover that holds the battery in. A few T5 screws later and the battery was removed. I connected the battery to some AA batteries in series to see if I could get a charge. A few hours later I got it up to 3 volts which held for several hours. So I connected it to a few more AA batteries in series to try and raise the voltage. I got it up to 3.67 volts and the battery is listed at 3.7 volts.
A day later and the voltage is still at 3.67 volts so I put the battery in the phone. I went to try and power it on, but nothing. I then connected it to a usb cord and received the slow flashing red led light a couple times before switching to green. The battery started getting warm again connected to the usb charger. After 20 minutes it was approaching hot so I unplugged the USB. The battery read 3.54 volts. 30 minutes later, 0 volts again.
Does anyone know what the actual voltage range is for this phone, as my old Samsung M320 is also 3.7 volts, but when testing the battery I get 4.10 volts? I heard it's pretty specific on minimum voltage. Any ideas for a temporary battery or way to boot the phone before spending $50 on a replacement battery and then find out there's a short in the phone. Is there another key combination to boot the phone, I'm trying to boot it to at least get my pictures and other data off it.
Thanks a lot in advance
Matt

Not the battery, seems to be an electrical short but where
I bought a new battery for the phone which had a 0 volt charge when I received it. I tried putting it in the phone as is to use the phone charger to charge it, but got nothing. So I charged it using 2, then 3 and then 4 AA batteries in series to get it up to 3.7 volts. I then put the battery in the phone and noticed the 2 large chips and the chip centered above them located by the camera get a little hot. I tried with the charger connected and not connected, but same thing. Power button doesn't turn the phone on. Just the green led lit when the USB power cable is attached. So now it seems there must be a short in the phone. Anyone know where I can look to check for a short, blown resistor or something in this phone? Or at least where the rom chip is located so maybe I can turn it into a usb drive to get my data at the least.

Anyone? I still haven't been able to find a solution. I don't see pins touching, but if some pins are touching in the usb port, would that cause the heat issues when I put a battery in that I charged externally? I do get the green led light when I plug the phone in to charge so figure that means the usb is ok?

Regal's Photon Q said:
Anyone? I still haven't been able to find a solution. I don't see pins touching, but if some pins are touching in the usb port, would that cause the heat issues when I put a battery in that I charged externally? I do get the green led light when I plug the phone in to charge so figure that means the usb is ok?
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did you try a other charger ? do you have oryginal photon charger ? for me its not a reason of battery
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(in situation like that charging with normal usb cable when you plug phone to pc dont charging battery, you need motorola usb service cable to make it work)

niko99 said:
did you try a other charger ? do you have oryginal photon charger ? for me its not a reason of battery
regards
(in situation like that charging with normal usb cable when you plug phone to pc dont charging battery, you need motorola usb service cable to make it work)
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Yep used the motorola cable that came with the phone (plugged in the wall and just the cable in multiple computers, another motorola house charger (the same as the one that came with the phone), a motorola car charger, and a samsung house charger.
When you say motorola usb service cable, I assume you're not talking about the motorola cable that comes with the phone? What usb service cable are you referring to?

Regal's Photon Q said:
Yep used the motorola cable that came with the phone (plugged in the wall and just the cable in multiple computers, another motorola house charger (the same as the one that came with the phone), a motorola car charger, and a samsung house charger.
When you say motorola usb service cable, I assume you're not talking about the motorola cable that comes with the phone? What usb service cable are you referring to?
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factory / sevice cable ( i make my own from below tutorial)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1077414
if you buy / make this cable , you will be have posibility to use RDS lite and flesh firmware this also make help (if you have low battery flesh with normal usb cable is not possible )
and second thing... maybe try some car charger ?

[Q] Charging--5sec-->Not Charging

My nexus 5 went to 0% battery one night and died. I tried charging it with 4 different chargers, some with usb some outlet and a wireless charger to no avail. I then purchased 2 new batteries and the phone was able to turn on with the replacement ones. However they would not charge. On the battery status screen it would go from saying Charging (on AC or USB depending on how i was trying to charge it) for 5~ seconds to saying Not Charging. The charging icon was still on the little toolbar battery icon but it would not charge. So those two new batteries are dead :good:. So I thought maybe software issue, I had enough juice to get in the bootloader and flash back to 4.4.4 which would still not allow it to charge. Then I started flashing to other versions and eventually back to 5.1.1 to no avail. I replaced the charging port with one from my brothers nexus 5 and it still would not work. My battery and charging port worked in his phone however.
Now I don't know what to do! This is the first phone I've really had to research about bootloaders and roms and stuff so I'm fresh.
TL;DR: Phone goes from charging for 5 sec to not charge with different software versions (4.4.4, 5.1.1 +more), with many different chargers (including one that came with phone), with new battery and new charging port.
Thanks.

Mine did that with a new battery also. The new battery was a dud--I contacted the seller, who sent me another battery, and that one does charge.

Telyx said:
Mine did that with a new battery also. The new battery was a dud--I contacted the seller, who sent me another battery, and that one does charge.
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I've tried 3 different batteries including my brothers nexus 5 battery which charges in his phone so I am confident its not a battery issue now.

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if the actual USB port is working on ur brother's and so is the battery, i am afraid then u have a bad Motherboard...
theres a Texas Instruments BQ24192 I2C controller chip, that is what regulates charging, such as voltage, etc...
if it doesnt even respond to wireless charging, that may be bad https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+5+Teardown/19016#s53734
that would be my guess....

Well technically it responds to it but it only lasts for a few seconds. Wireless charging and wired charging get a response from the phone by changing it to say charging on ac or usb or whatever but it just goes back to saying not charging after ~5 seconds. Is this still a bad mother board you think? Is it worth it to try and purchase a motherboard or just get a new phone?

Any solution for this? Came later but did come to this problem.