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How can I set up multiple today screens on my blackjack II (WM6)? Looks like wisbar advance desktop would accomplish this, but will it work on a non-touch screen device? I'll try it when I get home later and see. What I want to do is have multiple pages of completely different plugin sets, ie Home, something like HTC Action, Settings, and then be able to switch them by using the volume rocker (up/down). If you could imagine something similar to the HTC cube, only scrolling vertically (with the rocker) that's what I'm going after. I think this would work nicely for us non-touch screen users, i'm beginning to get envious of all the great options out there for touch. Any ideas are greatly appreciated, maybe I'll post a photoshop visual later of what I'm going after.
seems wisbar is pocket pc only at the moment, although it doesn't state this specifically on the downloads page. But i couldn't get through the install on my phone. The forums suggest smartphone apps are in developement but I couldn't find anything. SK Today Commander looks like another option and it installed...however I was unable to select any of the profile options it has, must be just incompatible with my phone or something...
any ideas? Any programmers could make a program that could render the today screen for a few different xml's and allow you to switch between them?
mortscript....looks like it will confuse the hell out of me, but I'm looking into it.
bvone21 said:
seems wisbar is pocket pc only at the moment, although it doesn't state this specifically on the downloads page. But i couldn't get through the install on my phone. The forums suggest smartphone apps are in developement but I couldn't find anything. SK Today Commander looks like another option and it installed...however I was unable to select any of the profile options it has, must be just incompatible with my phone or something...
any ideas? Any programmers could make a program that could render the today screen for a few different xml's and allow you to switch between them?
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sbsh wisbar is for wm6 pro devices with touch screens. sbsh facade is for wm6 standard devices with no touch screen. facade allows the use of multiple screens. check out the sbsh facade forums for some pretty cool multi screen skins.
bvone21 said:
How can I set up multiple today screens on my blackjack II (WM6)? Looks like wisbar advance desktop would accomplish this, but will it work on a non-touch screen device? I'll try it when I get home later and see. What I want to do is have multiple pages of completely different plugin sets, ie Home, something like HTC Action, Settings, and then be able to switch them by using the volume rocker (up/down). If you could imagine something similar to the HTC cube, only scrolling vertically (with the rocker) that's what I'm going after. I think this would work nicely for us non-touch screen users, i'm beginning to get envious of all the great options out there for touch. Any ideas are greatly appreciated, maybe I'll post a photoshop visual later of what I'm going after.
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It is not difficult to create multi-page homescreens, though some "rules" do apply. You can check out what we are doing over at the Facade forum for examples.
http://forums.sbsh.net/index.php?showforum=57
The "rules":
http://forums.sbsh.net/index.php?showtopic=14911&st=0&p=141894&#entry141894
Thanks for your replies guys, yeah it does look like facade is the way to go. Seems ekoflip on the SBSH forums has a few facade homescreens that "fake" the multiple page effect, I'll have to learn from that. I guess what I was really going for was a slick way to navigate them as well. In the facade multiple page themes, you don't really have more than one plugin on each "page", is that because you need the up/down keys to switch "pages" so you can't use them to go from plugin to plugin within the same "page" ? not as functional, or as "slick" as may be possible...
But I will definitely be looking into it, hopefully this weekend, thanks again.
Hey everyone!
First off I want to thank Dr. Gonzo again for the 6.1 rom. It's great and love it!
Second, I was using the HTC home screens that user tho made (found here) and I really got used to having the weather plugin on the homescreen. I really like how the homescreen is setup on this new rom, but I still want a weather plugin for it. Is there any way to add that plugin to this homescreen?
thanks.
if i was you i would try the following:
install the home plugin on your device. copy the .xml file from the plugin to your harddrive. open it and find the coresponding <plugin...> entry for the plugin. Then copy this entry to the xml-file of your skin of choice and there it should appear again... if it does not work or you have no clue what i was talking about, give me report.. i will try to do it for you,
Yea that's what I was thinking about doing. I just did not know if it would work or if it would look alright. I'm at work now so I don't really want to mess with it, but I'm going to try that when I get home.
ok. let us know if it worked when you're done
Wow this is a lot more difficult than I had thought. I can't find the weather plugin in the HTC Home screen and as the other thread may have tipped you off, the Sliding Panel home screen is very confusing to work with.
Basically what I would like to accomplish is to have Weather on my homescreen, while still using the Sliding Panel motif. So like if I could click over to the right next to where it displays the time it would show the weather. I'm going to keep working on this, but if anyone would like to jump in and help me I'd appreciate it.
Thanks.
according to the slide panel. I think all you can do is to manipulate the panels with basic configurations read out from the registry. It is not that easy to create something new, but i think a good point to start is always the manipulation of the welcome center, because this one is what most people need when they like to make "their own panels". The only way something will create a new slide is to code a plugin which is dedicated to appear in the slides. and still someone has to figure out what basic options are needed to create a new panel or to figure out what these guids are respectively.
Can you provide the htc home xml at least? it would be nice to have all extracted files in a zip file, so i do not have to install it again and pic all files out by myself.
Well that's sortof bad news that I can't create something new, however it might still be possible to edit the home panel to add that in?
I attached the xml for one of the home screens. I looked through it all and couldn't find the plugin for the weather but maybe you will have better luck than I will.
well, that is exactly what i meant. First choice, change one of the existing panels. If it works then and someone can explain those damn GUIDs I think we would manage to get it work on an own panel.
As far as it is "documented" in the XML (which is quite interesting i think for non wm6.1) this is the plugin-option for the htc home:
<plugin clsid="{B0C8AC4B-CDDC-4010-AAEB-076A2A6EB171}" name="HTCHome" height="88"></plugin>
This means to me, that cannot extract the weather-plugin for the homescreen unless you know how the home-plugin was made and the weather-plugin is a standalone, built-into htc home.
if you install the htc home, and edit your slidingpanel.xml with this tag somewhere, the home plugin should appear. I added the .xml for Frau Hottelmanns panther scheme with the htc home plugintag so you can see what i mean (not sure if the comment-tag is allowed, so just remove it before uploading to your device).
This is all I can do for you right at the moment.
Alright, Thanks a lot. I will try it when I get home.
I am really sorry that i wrote some damn ******* before It surely is possible to create new slides!!! It is just not possible to create a slide with ANY functionality
i just had the idea, that we may figure out what the minimal options for a slide are and then go on to figure out what the others are. But if we know the minimal options we could for example copy the testuiplugin-panel and try to get it work with the entire htc home plugin in it.
just wanted to write that, so you would not be that hopeless
Ok, what i found so far is:
- The htc home plugin works on wm6.1 as usual
- It seems not to work with the bronze-plugin in the same theme
* when loading the theme, the htc home plugin is displayed but vanishes as fast as the bronze-plugin is loaded.
* i played around with the height-attribute from the bronze-plugin but it seems to have absolutely no effect
- what i discovered in one of the previous skins is, that there are at least two major plugins for the htc home plugin which can be loaded in a theme. there is the notificationbar where the calls and sms etc. are shown and there is the htchome where the weather is displayed and so on.
- I also found that the exe-file for the weather-plugin is located at /windows/weather.exe so maybe its possible to configure the "output" on a call of this file and the weatherplugin is displayed (which means that we could put it into a slide)
- I also found an old thread here on xda for the "customization" of the htc home plugin, but it seems that the way the plugin works has changed since this thread and the version gregory released
- what is missing is something like a documentation on the htc home plugin, so which parts are implemented, how are they called from the homescreen etc. maybe gregory, if he's still around here has any idea(s) ???
- i just got that the weather.exe sets the city, downloads and refreshes the local weatherdata. So the output has to be somewhere else.
sounds like you are onto something here. Since the HTC home weather plugin is causing some problems, I think I am going to take a look at some other weather plugins. They might make it a little easier. I'm specifically looking at SPB Weather and Fizz Weather.
The only problem is, once I install them I'm not really sure how to put them into the slide panel. I'm going to play around with it and I'll let you know.
A tip from my side... always start from the delivered .xml files for the theme. mostly you can see there how they are implemented in the home-screen... then you just have to copy it.
i am wondering why the htc home plug does not work with the bronze. rinkus iconbar does, and its also just another plugin implemented... It also would not make sense that microsoft put something in the code of bronze which disables other home plugins
kimamil said:
A tip from my side... always start from the delivered .xml files for the theme. mostly you can see there how they are implemented in the home-screen... then you just have to copy it.
i am wondering why the htc home plug does not work with the bronze. rinkus iconbar does, and its also just another plugin implemented... It also would not make sense that microsoft put something in the code of bronze which disables other home plugins
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You mit be better waitin until HTC release a WM6.1 Standard ROM to see if HTC customize bronze to have parts of there Home plugins integrated and extract everything from a ROM then making a cab file to install it .
Roland
this was my first thought, but as you may know, there are people out there (yes, i am one of those ) that do not like to wait and have things first and before all the others do
kimamil said:
this was my first thought, but as you may know, there are people out there (yes, i am one of those ) that do not like to wait and have things first and before all the others do
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Have you tried using Facade to use the HTC plugin with Bronze?
Roland
nope. i thought one has to BUY facade???
First off I want to thank everyone here at XDA for all the hard work and effort you put into tweaking these great devices.
Now, on to my question, I've searched here and the diamond forum and I can't find any mention of a way to change the shortcut buttons on the landscape TF3D screen. I would really like to be able to customize that screen with shortcuts to applications I actually use. There must be a way to do this, has anyone got an idea?
First post , please go easy on my noobness.
Searchipoos......
Post #9 on first page, bottom ish of second page for a bit extra
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=426328&page=2
Thanks Ouza but I saw that post and it's not what I'm looking for. This only deals with changing the two softkeys at the bottom of the landscape screen (which is nice in itself).
I'm wanting to change the 6 big shortcut ''buttons'' above that.
Basically I'd like to make the landscape screen the same idea as the programs tab in TF3D or something like it.
Any ideas... anyone??
I would seriously like to change the big shortcuts as well.I have a dock in my car using the video out. Video out forces Landscape mode. When I hop in my car, I dont want to take notes or check tasks, I want GPS, internet radio, Live Search...
I will dig deep into the registry and let you know what I find.
I want the same thing !!
Video out in the car, so I want to be able to start my Navigation from the landscape-menu.
Jochen
Change Landscape Menu
For the TV out menu that pops on screen after you plug in the video out cable, you can change the shortcuts in the registry.
HKLM\Software\HTC\TVOutPopUp\
There are four links in there, you can change them to any app installed on your phone. Only problem im having is changing the icons.
I have to bump this thread. There must be a customizer out there for the lanscape shortcuts! I just may go back to HTC Home if there is no way to put shortcuts in landscape!
I doubt this is exactly what you're looking for, but herg62123 is working on adding landscape tf3d to his project. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=447056
Not quite,
I have my TP docked in landscape in the car and I would like to open apps like NAV, or Picture Dial, or Kinoma Play in landscape.
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First off I want to thank everyone here at XDA for all the hard work and effort you put into tweaking these great devices.
Now, on to my question, I've searched here and the diamond forum and I can't find any mention of a way to change the shortcut buttons on the landscape TF3D screen. I would really like to be able to customize that screen with shortcuts to applications I actually use. There must be a way to do this, has anyone got an idea?
First post , please go easy on my noobness.
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I don't think there is going to be any easy way to customize those shortcuts. I'm pretty sure the landscape shortcuts are hard-coded in one of the binary manila files.
That sucks!
Well I guess HTC Home will do for now.
You could change the softkeys to point to two of the apps you want to run. Not the perfect solution but it's better than nothing...
I guess....
Maybe I can use 2nd today and set a button to it with AEbutton and have HTC HOME for landscape and TF3D for portrait.
Thoughts?
sandiegodude said:
I guess....
Maybe I can use 2nd today and set a button to it with AEbutton and have HTC HOME for landscape and TF3D for portrait.
Thoughts?
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Sounds like a good solution. I haven't used either product but from what I've read on here that should work. good luck!
Glad to see this topic getting some attention finally
For anyone interested, try out this theme with a slimmed down version of tf3d in landscape. It may suit what you're wanting more.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=458036&highlight=landscape
Frankly, though, I didn't like it, and preferred to go back to my old theme. My main goal was having a landscape screen with a handful of a few apps I'm most likely to use, but in this theme you still have to scroll through your entire list of apps installed so, it really wasn't any kind of shortcut.
I'll keep sorting through all the manila files for a solution. Anyone with any reference docs or anything on creating themes or customizing tf3d would help as I've never dealt with it until now.
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Glad to see this topic getting some attention finally
For anyone interested, try out this theme with a slimmed down version of tf3d in landscape. It may suit what you're wanting more.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=458036&highlight=landscape
Frankly, though, I didn't like it, and preferred to go back to my old theme. My main goal was having a landscape screen with a handful of a few apps I'm most likely to use, but in this theme you still have to scroll through your entire list of apps installed so, it really wasn't any kind of shortcut.
I'll keep sorting through all the manila files for a solution. Anyone with any reference docs or anything on creating themes or customizing tf3d would help as I've never dealt with it until now.
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I've been searching around and noticed that indeed themes do change the "landschape shortcuts" but there doesn't seem to be a "general" program that's able to change them. I'm a little confused, because some reactions state it isn't possible to change these "shortcuts", saying they are hardcoded. Does this mean they're rooted so deep in the code that it's very hard to change them? Anyway I keep following this thread and hopefully some come up with a solution... Keep it up!
*Wish I could help*
Hey everyone, thanks for reading.
One of the things I'd like to see is a (QVGA) appointments tab for M2D/TF2D.
I feel really limited when being able to see only 1 appointment at my home screen, but having a list on a different tab would solve this completely.
This is what I'd like to see, however, any kind of appointment-tab would be greatly appreciated. It could also be something for later versions
-Configurable ammount of appointments at the tab.
-Kinetic scrolling (like programs tab) if there're to much appointments listed to fit the screen
-Can be switched position on the 'tabs-bar' trough M2DC
-(Instructions on how to get) An icon for it that fit's your theme on the 'tabs-bar'
If someone could explain to me where to start, or if it's even possible, I'm willing to give it a try myself. However I've never done any coding for PPC before.
Thanks in advance!
i would love to see this too. i hate only seeing one upcoming appointment, i often forget what goes on in the whole day. i know that thumbcal is only one click away, but this is why we mod things: to make them easier to use!
Hey guys i've been searching around a little bit and cant seem to find the answer to this, I'm trying to add things to my Home screen because the only things on there are the clock and calendar. Any help would be appreciated.
The TouchFLO 3D home screen isn't like a normal Today screen; it differs in that it's not directly customizable. You can't, for example, just add a plug-in to the home screen.
There are several additional tabs available here on XDA-Devs, or you can read up on editing Manila files, which use Lua, in order to customize your TF3D yourself. The latter isn't for the faint of heart!
Stevomenevo said:
Hey guys i've been searching around a little bit and cant seem to find the answer to this, I'm trying to add things to my Home screen because the only things on there are the clock and calendar. Any help would be appreciated.
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There is limitless customization available depending on what you want.
It should ike you are running just WM today? TF3D is the bomb interface but there are others such as SPB Moobile Shell, Ultimate Launcher, etc....
I run 3 different interfaces simultaneously.