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Best PDA nowadays?

I tried the search button but couldn't find my answer.
My XDA II is having some "age issues" and I'm planning on replacing it.
But, what is the best choice nowadays? What is the best replacement for my XDAII? I'd like a similar one but with WM5, better camera maybe, WIFI, BT and a powerful but stable processor of course. I’m using Tomtom navigation on it as well.
Thanks for the advice.

Hard to say. I'd say, right now, either the Wizard or, if the price difference isn't a problem, the TyTN. I wouldn't myself get the Universal - I have both the Univ and Wizard and prefer the latter in everyday life.
Or, if you don't mind the need for manual import, the new VGA Gigabyte i128 (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=273825 ).
Finally, you can wait for the O2 Flame / HTC Omni, they're hopefully much better than the Universal

Thanks for the quick reply Menneisyys, I'm looking into it.
TYTN looks promising..

Hello,
I would say that the best choice at the moment is TyTN. I have one and I must say that this is it. I have had also Universal for some time so I've compared them and for me TyTN is better. Maybe the processor is 400MHz but from what I've heard Samsung has better architecture that Intel. For me it's enough, besides I must tell that Universal sometimes had some lags (probably the reason is VGA screen). You can compare technical details and besides VGA screen (and eventually the processor) TyTN has better tech specs. It's smaller, fits in your pocket without problems (Universal is really much bigger, i can send photo of these two lying to each other if you want) and i prefer the keaboard of TyTN as well. I must say that I'm very pleased with this device

i dont want the slide keyboad and the thickness it adds so imho
Trinity is what i would get

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284452
id say wait a lil while

toemke said:
I tried the search button but couldn't find my answer.
My XDA II is having some "age issues" and I'm planning on replacing it.
But, what is the best choice nowadays? What is the best replacement for my XDAII? I'd like a similar one but with WM5, better camera maybe, WIFI, BT and a powerful but stable processor of course. I’m using Tomtom navigation on it as well.
Thanks for the advice.
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It is hard to say what is the best pda it all depends on your usage and what qualities you prefer in pda. I would say HTC Artemis/HTC P3300/O2 XDA Orbit is one of the best. It has integrated GPS, pretty compact and very light for Pocket PC, decent screen, good phone functionality and good battery life.

that samsung is not a phone though it's more of a microlaptop
and i know as soon as i get a device with gps
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_positioning_system
will hit and blow gps out of the water

It is hard to say what is the best pda it all depends on your usage and what qualities you prefer in pda.
v.v good point well made

Hi Rudegar, long time no see.
Thanks to all of you for the inputs.
I think I narrowed it down to TYTN or Trinity.
Next stop is E-Bay...
Thanks again.

toemke said:
I tried the search button but couldn't find my answer.
My XDA II is having some "age issues" and I'm planning on replacing it.
But, what is the best choice nowadays? What is the best replacement for my XDAII? I'd like a similar one but with WM5, better camera maybe, WIFI, BT and a powerful but stable processor of course. I’m using Tomtom navigation on it as well.
Thanks for the advice.
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Hi have look at this.
http://www.4winmobile.com/viewtopic.php?p=42938
It provide a good over view, and some more links to see if there is any one else out there that can answers your question. After my current phones contract expires, end of Feb, I will get one. I can’t wait…

Now this is what I call a review! Looks like a great device.
Thanks treecare.

Rudegar said:
that samsung is not a phone though it's more of a microlaptop
and i know as soon as i get a device with gps
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_positioning_system
will hit and blow gps out of the water
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Galileo is still some way off becoming operational - I should worry about it just now.

If you want a one hand phone, you should definitely look into a P525 by ASUS. The benchmark tests are amazing. I'm getting mine in 2 days.

My Universal is over a year old and I still love it. I don't think that for me the TyTn is a replacement for the Universal. I simply love the large VGA screen and the keyboard, though this comes with a downside of large size. However during this time I never felt that it was too large not to be pocketable.
I will wait till a device comes out with a large VGA screen and a qwerty keyboard.
But as we all agree these are personal preferences. I do a lot of work on the Planmaker spreadsheet and a lot of browsing using Netfront and so a good screen is probably on the highest priority.
Regards

I use mine mostly as a phone, planning of agenda's, calculations, tomtom navigation, Aviation navigation and utilities, camera and some utilities from programs I installed on it.
My XDA II did just fine but I miss the WM5. Rotating screens and stuff and the fact that is starting to show some defects (sound disappearing, self soft reset...)
I want the same PDA but up to date..I think I got a pretty good idea of what I want now. TYTN, Trinity or XDA Orbit.

The best PPC device atm?

so what does everyone think is the best Pocket PC device at the moment? Features... Memory... CPU... etc
I put Pocket PC, because i want one that will fit in my Pocket!

That's a pretty subjective question. Even if you were to name the device with the latest and greatest hardware, the software/firmware/ROM has a huge impact on the device's overall performance. Since you're obviously not a newbie here, you probably already know that. I can't tell you the best, I can only tell you my favorite: Kaiser. Even with the video issues (which should hopefully be addressed soon) it seems to be the most feature-rich device. It will soon be trumped by other devices of course, but not until at least the 2nd half of this year when they are scheduled for release.

small list
let me put a small list of the best hardware ppc on the market right now;
kaiser,asus p750,hp 614 c, each one of them has its own small negative issues.
ppc-doc

i've been looking at the Kaiser for a while, but i was under the impression it had been around for a long time... was wondering if anything had superseeded it?

Kaiser was out less than half a year ago.

Kaiser is a great device...but when you're moving from Artemis - don't expect the same long batterylife.....everything else is great imo....

I like the Prophet with wm6.1. It's fast, looks good and has a couple of features crucial to me: standard SD card support so I can swap cards with my camera etc, separate audio jack.

Since you didnt mention if you need phone(), I would go for ipaq 210+$100 phone combo

kdskamal said:
Since you didnt mention if you need phone(), I would go for ipaq 210+$100 phone combo
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lol, yeh i dnt think i could cope with two divices
I'm not worried about battery life, i usually end up charging my Artemis in the car on the way to work and on the way home, total of 2 hours lol.
Cheers for the recomendations!

sooo...
There still seems to be no answer here to this. Even with the HTC touch pro that I have my eye on. There are obviously a multitude of devices out there.. heck the exeda which I am excited and leary of.
http://www.exedamobile.com/web/
But anyone have any educated opinions of the best ppc device atm.
I love my kaiser. And of course money restricts me from moving up. but its a good thing. More time for research.
In the end. I expect to end up with a netbook with a cell adaptor.

@frankbot,
Here's a recent poll voted by the xda members:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446362

Touch HD
-----HD-----
Enough Said.

HTC Universal
Nothing better!!
Here a thread responding your question
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446362

joel2009 said:
Touch HD
-----HD-----
Enough Said.
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I agree! +1

Such a matter of personal preference...
You have to ask yourself things like
how much do I value screen size
how much do I value a keyboard
do I need a dpad to do what I like to do?
do I need 3g?
am I buying unlocked?
do I need a long battery life?

Definatly the samsung epix
this phone is great just got it today, it has wifi, 2mp camera, 150 ram, micro sd slot, a huge battery, full qwerty keyboard, the first phone with a optical mouse in it, a touch screen, windows mobile 6.1, 320 x 320 pixels screen, and to top it off a very fast 624 MHz processor. best phone ive ever had

Pros and Cons HTC Touch Pro aka HTC Raphael

Pros and Cons HTC Touch Pro aka HTC Raphael
I have Touch Pro with original ROM: 1.90.404.1 NLD
Done some registry hacks found in many threads.
Here is a PDF which has some of my noticed Pros and Cons of this phone compared to my old one: HTC p3300 and compared with the Touch Diamond and possible also the iPhone.
What do you think?
Add Pros and Cons on this thread to make the list longer, or if you have solutions for some problems place them here as well.
Greetz

Does the camera light stay on when the camera is in video mode?
I had the Eten X500+ and when I switched it to camera mode (not recording video but switched from photo mode to video camera mode) the led light on the back would stay on and made a great flashlight!
Can someone let me know if the Touch Pro does the same thing?
That would be a definite pro!

thing is, if they ever made the perfect PDA they would never be able to shift other devices unless it had major leeps in technology software and hardware wise.
That is exactly why i think they cut out the SD slot on the diamond and gave it less RAM. it makes a market for 2 devices, in this case the Diamond and the Pro, i am pretty sure that had the diamond had those two extra features sales of the pro would have been poor, only folk needing a keyboard would have bothered getting it.
Which is exactly why i cant decide which to go for yet.

paultje_007 said:
Pros and Cons HTC Touch Pro aka HTC Raphael
I have Touch Pro with original ROM: 1.90.404.1 NLD
Done some registry hacks found in many threads.
Here is a PDF which has some of my noticed Pros and Cons of this phone compared to my old one: HTC p3300 and compared with the Touch Diamond and possible also the iPhone.
What do you think?
Add Pros and Cons on this thread to make the list longer, or if you have solutions for some problems place them here as well.
Greetz
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nice info, thanks mate.

dazza9075 said:
thing is, if they ever made the perfect PDA they would never be able to shift other devices unless it had major leeps in technology software and hardware wise.
That is exactly why i think they cut out the SD slot on the diamond and gave it less RAM. it makes a market for 2 devices, in this case the Diamond and the Pro, i am pretty sure that had the diamond had those two extra features sales of the pro would have been poor, only folk needing a keyboard would have bothered getting it.
Which is exactly why i cant decide which to go for yet.
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I think it was mentioned that HTC had to leave out sd slot to keep it the size it is. I cant believe they would do that just to help with Pro sales. The keyboard is enough of a difference to get people to buy it. Just my opinion.

pjmiebach said:
Does the camera light stay on when the camera is in video mode?
I had the Eten X500+ and when I switched it to camera mode (not recording video but switched from photo mode to video camera mode) the led light on the back would stay on and made a great flashlight!
Can someone let me know if the Touch Pro does the same thing?
That would be a definite pro!
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On Pro if you open camera and click on options and then click on Flash On it turns on what I would call a "Modeling Light" that stays on then flashes when you take the shot - kind of like a strobe. So yes this modeling light is a great flashlight in a pinch. Thanks for pointing that out - I had not thought of that.

elwuero said:
I think it was mentioned that HTC had to leave out sd slot to keep it the size it is. I cant believe they would do that just to help with Pro sales. The keyboard is enough of a difference to get people to buy it. Just my opinion.
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thats possible, but if you look at the size of them, there is very little difference in it, and the actual size of a microSD is only a couple of mm including the connections, their not daft, i wonder how many folk go for the pro over the diamond only because it has SD, and that will be the number of forced upgrades HTC has made by not including the SD.
I just had the diamond in my hands and its tiny compared to my Orbit, i dont need the keyboard but the SD is a big boon on the pro so thats the way im leaning. otherwise id have the diamond in a flash. instantly more money for HTC

instantly more money for HTC
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Only of you buy it
You're right in that they obviously need to distinguish the models sufficiently so they appeal to different market segments. A microSD was probably a feature that was decided to be in the more business-like Pro, and it's their prerogative to design their phones however they like. They're in it to make money, and they are going to try to squeeze as much money out of us as they can.
Anyway, there's always the Samsung i900 Omnia. It looks like an excellent phone, thinner, 8 or 16GB of internal storage as well as a microSD slot (although it does have a lower WQVGA resolution). Personally I went with the Pro because of the microSD (over the Diamond), keyboard (over the Diamond and Omnia) and the screen (over the Omnia).
Have fun making a decision, it's half the fun of getting a phone/gadget

pjmiebach said:
Does the camera light stay on when the camera is in video mode?
I had the Eten X500+ and when I switched it to camera mode (not recording video but switched from photo mode to video camera mode) the led light on the back would stay on and made a great flashlight!
Can someone let me know if the Touch Pro does the same thing?
That would be a definite pro!
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Indeed, in camcorder mode the light on the back stays on constantly.

Incarniac said:
Only of you buy it
You're right in that they obviously need to distinguish the models sufficiently so they appeal to different market segments. A microSD was probably a feature that was decided to be in the more business-like Pro, and it's their prerogative to design their phones however they like. They're in it to make money, and they are going to try to squeeze as much money out of us as they can.
Anyway, there's always the Samsung i900 Omnia. It looks like an excellent phone, thinner, 8 or 16GB of internal storage as well as a microSD slot (although it does have a lower WQVGA resolution). Personally I went with the Pro because of the microSD (over the Diamond), keyboard (over the Diamond and Omnia) and the screen (over the Omnia).
Have fun making a decision, it's half the fun of getting a phone/gadget
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Ugh, the Omnia? I seem to be the only one who feels this way, but I think the Omnia is a piece of garbage compared to the Xperia/Touch Pro. I don't understand why it's included in all of the talks, every review I've seen makes it out to be comparable to an LG Dare... Which, although a nice phone, isn't going to really impress anybody.

Black93300ZX said:
but I think the Omnia is a piece of garbage compared to the Xperia/Touch Pro. I don't understand why it's included in all of the talks
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I wouldn't call it a piece of garbage, but you're probably right in terms of comparing it to the Xperia and Touch Pro. If the Touch Diamond is an option (as it appeared to be), however, then I would think the Omnia is as well (unless the difference in screen resolution is a deciding factor).

2 new cons
Here are 2 new cons:
I would like to see more favorites in the Contacts Tab of Tflo3d.
It would actually than be unlimited 'Contacts Tab' and no longer '15 Favorites Contacts Tab'.
PLus I would like to see a bluetooth icon on the 'Start'-bar or Menu-bar when bluetooth is on. Now when bluetooth is on and you browse through your phone there's no way to tell if bluetooth is still on, no icons or flashing lights tell you so.
If you forgot it is still on your battery will eat more power than when it's off.
Good place would be just left next to the 3G (or H [HSDPA]) icon.
Greetz
pallemans

Isnt't there a Bluetooth icon already on the start bar "just left next to the 3G (or H [HSDPA]) icon."...? Is on mine...

kempas said:
Isnt't there a Bluetooth icon already on the start bar "just left next to the 3G (or H [HSDPA]) icon."...? Is on mine...
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Just tried it on mine and I get one too, right where he suggested would be a good place

Yeap... there it is...
But the issue with the maximum of 15 contacts is bothering me too...
Did anyone find a tweak to increase that?

paulyluca said:
Yeap... there it is...
But the issue with the maximum of 15 contacts is bothering me too...
Did anyone find a tweak to increase that?
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I'm guessing there is a reg tweak. Some one on here managed to get some extra tiles and stuff on the programs tab (didnt get it 100% working but I think they're still trying). I bet there is a similar tweak for the contacts page.

Bluetooth Icon and more favorites contacts
Yep, I got the bluetooth icon back, but had to perform a hard reset to get it.
So if someone knows the reg edit to get the bluetooth icon back ones you've lost it that would be great. I probably lost it using Advanced Config Tools 3.1 or when entering some reg tweaks from several threads here on XDA.
This is for when I lose it again.
Second: The adding more persons to the contacts tab than just those 15 'favorites', so far nobody knows how. The only solution is the upcoming touchXperience by schap's, but this is a completely refurbished touchflo3d version.
I hope this touchXperience is all I need, to make TouchFlo3D better than it is now.
Greets Pallemans

Still undecided
Great feedback. However, I still cant decide. If only the Omnia had a better screen resolution. Or if only the TouchPro had generous storage as the Omnia....

illi said:
Great feedback. However, I still cant decide. If only the Omnia had a better screen resolution. Or if only the TouchPro had generous storage as the Omnia....
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I am not sure what is making it so hard, you can always get a 8gb microsd class IV on ebay for around 40, and the internal storage of 500mb is obvious sufficient for any program you'll need if you are worrying about the loading time...

that Pro has "small" (?) internal storage is a non-issue
before x-mas we'll have 16GB microSD and probably even 32GB

Abandon Raphael for HD

I have been reading several topics on the forthcoming HD and it seems that most of us are very excited and anxious about the HD. Was wondering how many of us would actually dump the TP for the new HD...!!!

I personally don't see the point. The HD is basically a bigger diamond with Pro specs.
I seem to be one of the few who still prefer phones that actually fit in a pocket.
Now a Diamond with Pro specs (RAM, card slot, video out, etc) only missing the keyboard but thinner would be something to think about.

I'm very tempted to go for the Touch HD when (if!) it eventually gets released on T-Mob UK.
Fed up of waiting for them to get the Pro out of the door, plus now I'm running TF2D on my Hermes with the Diamond keyboard I'm not so sure I need a hw keyboard, especially with the bigger screen of the HD typing should be a breeze.
It's not so big as to not fit in a pocket, same size as an iPhone pretty much and noone complains about the size of that (not even Apple haters like me!). It'll be like going back to my old Blueangel! I think the thickness of the Pro makes it less pocketable than a bigger but thinner phone like the HD.

the reason i didnt get a diamond or iphone is because theres no keyboard... so no, im still on the raphael ship

Please note that the HD has no directional button. This will make it useless for games. Even with Diamond and Touch Pro, the limitation of buttons available make it difficult running games. Further more, I'm missing the camera and record button. It is quite troublesome using the TouchFlo 3D to get to the camera.

programatix said:
Please note that the HD has no directional button. This will make it useless for games. Even with Diamond and Touch Pro, the limitation of buttons available make it difficult running games. Further more, I'm missing the camera and record button. It is quite troublesome using the TouchFlo 3D to get to the camera.
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directional buttons? make use of the accelerometer! i really wish WM has games like iphone

Hmm i'm thinking the same, i currently own a Pro but i'm thinking of selling it and get a HD later. But i'm not sure atm.

I don't know if i'm convinced about the iPhone/HD big, wide & flat format.
Plus the fact that I always have the impression that the larger the screen the more susceptible to damage that screen is. I would be scared witless to put something like a HD in my pocket!!
I really would have to play with one in a store and see how good the onscreen keyboard was before I could make an informed choice.
So far my TP is doing everything I need and is a big improvement over my old Artemis that served me well for 2 years. Would changing from a TP to a HD be an improvement??? Seeing the specs are similar what "improvement" would I be getting??? If the answer is only a "nice big screen" then why would I bother bearing in mind it would probably cost a couple of hundred pounds to 'upgrade'???

Never: it's way to big, it has no keyboard and no flash(light).

Well... talkin about the flash, I dont really think that the flash on touch pro is of any use either...

I just saw someone walking by that just might be prittier than my current girlfriend....

Because I'm spoiled (and Christmas is almost here), I'm going to get the HD and keep the TP. This way, I can alternate depending on which type of mood I'm in. Just like swapping my watches.
Geez...I love my wife!

programatix said:
Please note that the HD has no directional button. This will make it useless for games. Even with Diamond and Touch Pro, the limitation of buttons available make it difficult running games. Further more, I'm missing the camera and record button. It is quite troublesome using the TouchFlo 3D to get to the camera.
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That means the iPhone is useless for games? I've even seen NES emulators on iPhones... Come on now.

Axel2k5 said:
I don't know if i'm convinced about the iPhone/HD big, wide & flat format.
Plus the fact that I always have the impression that the larger the screen the more susceptible to damage that screen is. I would be scared witless to put something like a HD in my pocket!!
I really would have to play with one in a store and see how good the onscreen keyboard was before I could make an informed choice.
So far my TP is doing everything I need and is a big improvement over my old Artemis that served me well for 2 years. Would changing from a TP to a HD be an improvement??? Seeing the specs are similar what "improvement" would I be getting??? If the answer is only a "nice big screen" then why would I bother bearing in mind it would probably cost a couple of hundred pounds to 'upgrade'???
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5MP camera, 3.5mm headphone jack for starters.

The 5mp camera is not really a major thing to be to be honest, cause mobile cameras could never come even close to the quality of the actual point & shoot cameras, hence ppl who takes snaps with their phones can very well get away wit the 3.2mp for random moments capturing. But yes the audio jack is definately a good improvement on the HD, I always prefer to have a conventional audio connector...

akash_nu said:
The 5mp camera is not really a major thing to be to be honest, cause mobile cameras could never come even close to the quality of the actual point & shoot cameras, hence ppl who takes snaps with their phones can very well get away wit the 3.2mp for random moments capturing...
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I totally agree the camera is just a gimmick really. If you want good quality pics to keep you'll take them with a conventional digital camera with an optical zoom. Phone cameras are only good for MMS messages and snapshots to be disposed of at a later date IMHO.
As for the audio connector... why spend 200 quid to update the phone when you can get a HTC mini USB to 3.5" audio adapter on-line for £5???? Doesn't make sense to me unless you have money to burn!

I thought about it too, but my main concern is battery life. Its not great on my TP, with that screen it will be terrible on the HD. I doubt you'll get through watching a full movie!

"That means the iPhone is useless for games? I've even seen NES emulators on iPhones... Come on now."
maybe he mean useless for all those current wm games where many require more hardware buttons then any htc phones got to control various functions like tombraider don't know of any htc phone which had enough buttons for that

I wouldn't replace my TP with HD because I think it's great having a keyboard on your phone for messaging, email, even writing blogs or modifying web pages when I'm not home.

marcel808 said:
I thought about it too, but my main concern is battery life. Its not great on my TP, with that screen it will be terrible on the HD. I doubt you'll get through watching a full movie!
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Are you still running the stock ROM? Wouldnt hurt to explore a cooked flavour before you abandon it

Why wont u b getting the Touch Pro II

Why wont u b getting the Touch Pro 2?
I put this in the general category because I wanted to here from all the non owners, users who are going to skip the TP2 as well as the owners who want to complain about the TP2.
I was excited about this phone but I hate to go with a device that does not have a navigation pad. I have issues daily where I tap the screen or drag the screen on my Fuze and do not get the desired result so then I make use of the dpad to do what I need to do with no further problem.
Is there a reason you are going to skip the TP2? Whats it missing for you or what have you chosen over the TP2?

the processor ! or lack of driver support there of.

Because i wanted to have a (relativley) decent camera. So I got the Acer M900 instead of which, i'm VERY happy with it.
(Oh in my experience, HTC's build quality is sh*t)

Acer does have a better camera and probably better drivers too. But when it comes o build quality I dis-agree with your fact. Acer phones usually have cheap plastic finish but HTC makes good casing almost in every phone model of theirs.. They're good at design or hire good designers IMHO.

You cannot disagree with my opinion or indeed my personal experience. You may indeed have a diferent opinion and experience but that does not mean that either of us are right or wrong.
An opinion is just that, a personal opinion.
An experience is fact but that does not mean you will suffer the same.
But, I do very much agree with your OPINION on the design, they are usualy well designed however, in my EXPERIENCE, they are built out of crap and made very poorly.

My biggest issue with the TP2 is the relatively slower processor and lack of a headphone jack. I know it's business phone and all, but still, when other touch screen phones are one-upping you in hardware...
The TD2 has the same issues, but it's cheaper, so the qualms are a bit easier to swallow. I'm gonna have to think carefully and wait and see how much AT&T charges for each.

better processor and wm 7 ... until then htc fuze for me.

I'll quote Anand here.
Anand said:
The second part isn’t what Nokia should be doing on its $500+ smartphone, what is inexcusable is the fact that Nokia is not using ARM’s latest and greatest Cortex A8 on such an expensive phone. It’s the equivalent of Dell shipping a high end PC with a Core 2 Duo instead of a Core i7; after a certain price point, the i7 is just expected.
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Up until this morning, I was 100% committed to getting a HTC Touch Pro 2 (Rhodium).
This afternoon I had a play with the new Toshiba TG01.
Now I'm 50:50 on the TP2 or the TG01.

Quite a few reasons. The first is simply cost -- I don't have a cheap upgrade option currently, and it sure isn't worth the asking price without a carrier subsidy.
Lack of a 3.5mm jack is a big deal for me. While I always intend to keep a seperate PMP (I have a Zune 80 right now and might snag the HD later this year), I want my next phone to at least be a competent media player when I don't have my Zune with me. This is simply impossible without a standard headphone jack, because I won't carry an adapter with me.
The biggest reason is probably the impending release of WM7. I expect 7 to be a BIG upgrade over 6 and really a game changer for the whole WM world. I don't want to be stuck with "old" WM once 7 releases. And if 7 isn't as revolutionary as I expect/hope, I'll seriously consider jumping ship.

typo said:
... the impending release of WM7. ....
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Thanks mate, that made me cry

ZenithUK said:
Up until this morning, I was 100% committed to getting a HTC Touch Pro 2 (Rhodium).
This afternoon I had a play with the new Toshiba TG01.
Now I'm 50:50 on the TP2 or the TG01.
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It matter of decide what you prefer:
Better processor or a nice phisycal keyboard...
Personally I´ll take the keyboard

orb3000 said:
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Better processor or a...
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initialy i'd agree with you about keyboard v cpu however, you cannot compare processor Mhz across diferent manufacturers. The only test you can compare processors with (and actually indeed, entire devices) is with real world tests such as, opening a complex spreadsheet or running an emulator.
This is why all reviews run comparisons with user software running like Unreal Tournament for example or Call of Duty.
Numbers are an indicator, they are not the entire story.

Monty Burns said:
Because i wanted to have a (relativley) decent camera. So I got the Acer M900 instead of which, i'm VERY happy with it.
(Oh in my experience, HTC's build quality is sh*t)
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Thats pretty nice that the biometric pad doubles as a navigation dpad! Does that work well?
Do you have any issues with the 128 RAM? The videos i have seen show that the screen is slow and a little less responsive. Is this your experiance? Thanks

No, quite the oposite.... its very fast and nippy device, certainly the fastest i've ever owned. Yes the memory numbers are a little low however, as long as you close any apps you dont really need open your fine. I often run Igo and either the FM player or Win Media Player and don't have any issues.
Be warned though, its not a small device. Its not Universal big but, you could easily use it to defend yourself
edit: Oh yeah, and some people have already learn't to edit the partition table which If I understand this correctly, means we will be shortly getting cooked roms that change the storage ratio - could be wrong on this though.

After looking at TPII I can't WOW. Its just another pocketpc with hardly any novelty to offer, Tilt form factor is what gives it an extra look otherwise its no better than TP IMHO

Some reports say the m900 has a 2.5mm jack and some say 3.5, can u say which is true?
So is the screen responsive? Do u have to tap something more than once and does the screen somtimes fail to recognize a gesture? Sorry to ask again but i wasnt sure to which part of my post u were responding to. Im thinking of ordering the m900 in the next few days.

I cant justify to myself paying that sort of money for something that is not all that different to previous htc keyboard offerings. I dont have a problem with the processor its just I am so very bored of wm 6.whatever. If wm7 ever arrives then it will be a different story.
In the meantime I am going to give android and the Hero a go...

jamespaulritter said:
Some reports say the m900 has a 2.5mm jack and some say 3.5, can u say which is true?
So is the screen responsive? Do u have to tap something more than once and does the screen somtimes fail to recognize a gesture? Sorry to ask again but i wasnt sure to which part of my post u were responding to. Im thinking of ordering the m900 in the next few days.
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It has neither. Its a mini 5 pin usb so you need an adapter (£2 from ebay). The screen can be unresponsive at times but Acer are very aware of this and are working with us on www.4winmobile.com. We already know there is a new firmware released and are expecting it to appear on Acers website in the next week or two.
Rather than derail the thread further, it might be an idea to check out 4winmobile and go to the Acer/Eten area.

Thanks Monty