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Treo 680's Palm OS® 5.4.9 on the Treo 750v... I wonder, is it possible?
Maybe, I think that the 680 shares the same hardware...
The screen resolutions are not the same....WM is 240x240, Palm is 320x320.
Why on earth would you want to swap a new WM5 OS for an at least 5 year old PalmOS (basis PalmOS 5)
postbus31 said:
Why on earth would you want to swap a new WM5 OS for an at least 5 year old PalmOS (basis PalmOS 5)
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Second that question *ggg*
It is possible!
Actually, it's WM5 that has compatibility issues with 320x320 screen resolution, not the Treo hardware. Once again we can thank Microsoft for not having thought of this possibility.
Why do I want to swap it? Because as I suspected, it's twice as fast as the 650 with Palm OS on it and I am disappointed with WM5's performance on the 750v. Plus 240x240 is a step back as far as I'm concerned.
The 750v does take the Palm OS 5.4.9 on 320x320 and it's a breeze!
volition said:
Once again we can thank Microsoft for not having thought of this possibility.
The 750v does take the Palm OS 5.4.9 on 320x320 and it's a breeze!
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True WM5 doesn't support 320x320 but it does support 480x480 today which is pixel doubling from 240x240. Just because you want 320x320 today, don't slam MS, they were actually thinking forward with the resolution to future devices and screens. Read about it here if you want the MS perspective.
http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2006/02/14/531972.aspx
As for the 680, does it support UTMS? I was under the impression the POS was unable to support UTMS data networks...
The hardware between the 680 and the 750 are totally different. They only look similar.
Please let the Palm OS die...
I was playing with the 680 this week and they are not the same hardware. Its just the same shell, different screen res, memory card type, and the buttons are positioned differently.
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I was playing with the 680 this week and they are not the same hardware. Its just the same shell, different screen res, memory card type, and the buttons are positioned differently.
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Yes, but they were made at the same time. Like the 700's: W and P. If they could put UMTS in a Palm phone, they would have.
Treo 750v with Palm OS!
Is Palm OS really possible on Treo 750v?? Does someone know how to get there?
I have 750v in German and I need English on it...?
Have to say that after Treo 650, MS OS on 750v is crap and slow as rented mule!!!
Voilition - You want Palm OS on 750v ?
K.. I'll trade you my 680 for your 750v and you have what you need and I will too... Lemmeknow....
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Treo 680's Palm OS® 5.4.9 on the Treo 750v... I wonder, is it possible?
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zoranpu said:
Is Palm OS really possible on Treo 750v?? Does someone know how to get there?
I have 750v in German and I need English on it...?
Have to say that after Treo 650, MS OS on 750v is crap and slow as rented mule!!!
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It is NOT possible and it will never be possible. They are different hardware.
If you want Palm OS apps on WM, just get Styletap. Best of both worlds.
http://www.styletap.com/
Styletap is quite primitive though.... its like one step back...
the appearance of palm app on styletap is horrible due to the 240/320 pixel alignment. I can imagine how bad it looks like for Palm OS on 750v hardware
zoranpu said:
Is Palm OS really possible on Treo 750v?? Does someone know how to get there?
I have 750v in German and I need English on it...?
Have to say that after Treo 650, MS OS on 750v is crap and slow as rented mule!!!
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I had the 650 and I now have the 750v and I can't say that the 750v is slow.
It always depends on the installed programs, if you install a lot of third party "crap", don't be surprised. Also try to keep your programs up-to-date, sometimes an update can do wonders to memory management.
As to Palm OS on the 750v: IMPOSSIBLE, completely different hardware. The Treo 680 has a pretty "basic" GSM part, nothing else. While the Treo 750v has a Quadband GSM phone and a Triband UMTS module. Difference is like day and night.
wtf are you talking about? tro 755p or whatever one that looked like the treo 750.....blue one, has the same hardware that treo 750 the same palm os 230x230 screen and perfectly works on treo 750,i have already tried it resulting in a new treo 755p, however you first have to remove and add some inner parts of the treo 755p to the 750, for the wich you better stay with wm 5 or 6 now....
Moved from: Palm Treo 750 > Palm Treo 750 ROM Development
To: Palm Treo 750 > Palm Treo 750
ive discovered why it works with my treo and no in others, it has nothing to do with resolucion its all the same, but the treo 750 its actually a wifi missing htc hermes rebuild, its basically a hermes with treo look and no wifi.....
Hi Everyone!!!!!!!!
I´m Thinking About Buying The Palm Treo 750v Of Vodafone, But As I Know It Was Released Almost One Year Ago, I Thought That Soon Or Later, There´ll Be A Brand New Model Or Successor Of The Treo 750v And Wait For It.
What Do U Think Buddies???
Thxs In Advance
There is *always* a new phone around the corner.
It's just like computers.
If you wait, you'll never buy anything.
gamescan said:
There is *always* a new phone around the corner.
It's just like computers.
If you wait, you'll never buy anything.
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What u´ve said is really true, but you all know what I mean. Just in case there will be a brand new realease coming soon, I should wait for it. DOn´t u think that??
I just need some info.
Thanks
Palm is rather in a 'mess' now to retaliate MS attacks from the PDA/smartphone front. Various speculations are floating around the net, which includes Nokia (and others) to take over Palm, and Palm in ditching their PalmOs to Linux-based system. Palm did a marvelous jobs at tackling PPC's onslaughts on the PDA fronts during the last few years, but this PDA-Phone round is not very good for Palm. So, chances are that Treo750 may be very well be the end of one of the Palm's era. Hence, personally, I don't think there will be a new unit coming out very soon for Treo, and if it does, probably it will be very much different, which may not be inline with the reason you go for a Treo.
I have heard that palm treo 750 WM6 OS is coming for Cingular. It is ok to buy for now and Treo 750 is best for everyday use.
The next device from Palm is not a PPC, its a SP... Also the next PPC has GPS... Both are expected this year but not for a few months.
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The next device from Palm is not a PPC, its a SP... Also the next PPC has GPS... Both are expected this year but not for a few months.
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you mean a palm + phone using windows mobile? when?and how much?
thanks everyone
The miracle of google..
News news news... - "Palm will unveil a platform before the end of 2007 that runs the Palm OS on top of a Linux kernel" ... but .. "Palm will also continue to use Microsoft's Windows Mobile OS"... "Recent industry rumors have suggested that either Motorola or Nokia would buy the company, but those whispers died down when Palm..."
WM6 news
If you want one go for it, based on the speed that Palm released the upgrade to the GSM Treo I'd say the 750 is in for a while.
And the 680 wasn't much of an upgrade to the 650, more like the 650.1.
WM6 on the Treo 750
Palm have announced that a WM6 upgrade WILL be released for the Treo 750 in due course. The inside information I have is that it will be here by late august!
Get a Treo 750 dude they are Immense!
what do you think about getting an wifi mini sdcard for wireless connections, do you think it´s a good idea???
The problem is I´m hesitating whether to buy aplm treo 750v with vodafone or ubiquio 501.
What do you advise me guys?????
Well, personally, wireless is not something that I would use, however, I would still feel incomplete without. Only now I noticed that 750 doesnt have WiFi. How much difference in price are the Treo and Ubi501?
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Well, personally, wireless is not something that I would use, however, I would still feel incomplete without. Only now I noticed that 750 doesnt have WiFi. How much difference in price are the Treo and Ubi501?
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100 euros more or less.
I prefer the treo because in my opinion it´s more stylized than the ubi501, but the lack is it has no wireless capabities.
Ubi501 processor is OMAP 850 at 200mHz, very slow based on my own experiences but could be enough. The screen is 240x240 and it may have some problems installing some softwares on it, but i think it´s he same siza than the palm.
My aim is getting a very very very small device indeed with keyboard such as treo or ubi501 and if it is possible with the best wireless capabilites.
ANy suggestions?????
You may need to check with your specs again. From what I've gathered so far, it seems that the only thing I can see Palm is better than this Ubi is the processor.
Screen wise, Palm is the one with 240x240 screen. This Ubi has QVGA screen (320x240). Ubi has larger storage, better camera, and only 1/2 as thick as Palm, it is SEXY.
Have you read this?
http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=248338
BTW, if what it said above is true, it maybe dodgy to get a phone, that is owned by Expansys.. in a way.. not as safe as getting it from Treo.. which.. well you decide.
The Ubi 501 is old news now and I agree does not compare to the Treo. However in June the Ubi 503G is releasing and it is looking to be a great device. Here is a link to a thread at HoFo where we have been discussing it.
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1134535
Treo 755p.is due out soon and the linux/palm xovers will be out 08,life in the olddog yet
http://www.mobilewhack.com/sprint-treo-755p-photos-leaked/
it seems to be a palm powered device, isn´t it????
When I said sucessor, I meant, windows mobile powered.
what do you think???
well it shows new devices are still coming and treo have remarked lots of times that they will have dual releases,palm and windows to come,(also with linux too)
so its only a matter of time before a new windows device,why spend all that money to launch one windows device then,quit?
they will for sure be realsing further windows devices
its seems to me all pda,smartphones and mobile phone makers,are at the moment holding back,im sure behidn the scenes,its all about tryign ti figure out how to get voip and gps right and fit them into there devices
i belive there will be a few genral releases from all makers,plodding on then once they have it all sorted the output will be hughe
look at nokia ,rushing to be first to market with the n95,people are so demanding with there devices nowdays,i suspect another windows powered treo before xmas for the usa and for the rest of us in 1st q8
jaceuk said:
well it shows new devices are still coming and treo have remarked lots of times that they will have dual releases,palm and windows to come,(also with linux too)
so its only a matter of time before a new windows device,why spend all that money to launch one windows device then,quit?
they will for sure be realsing further windows devices
its seems to me all pda,smartphones and mobile phone makers,are at the moment holding back,im sure behidn the scenes,its all about tryign ti figure out how to get voip and gps right and fit them into there devices
i belive there will be a few genral releases from all makers,plodding on then once they have it all sorted the output will be hughe
look at nokia ,rushing to be first to market with the n95,people are so demanding with there devices nowdays,i suspect another windows powered treo before xmas for the usa and for the rest of us in 1st q8
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I agree with you about they will release a brand new treo powered by WM6 bf Xmas, but that sounds very late on time, doesn´t it????
I´m not sure if they´ll release another on bf that time, because in my opinion they have to make some profits with the first treo with Microsoft on it, don´t you think?
Hi i'm new to PDA phones and i want to make the right choice when i buy it. This two PDA have nearly the same specs for the qwerty keyboard in the TyTN vs. the fastest processor and the fm radio in atom life. Well the lack of keyboard in atom life is concerning me. Is the handwriting good and efficacious and can it replace the keyboard?
Please help and thanks in advance.
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i have an 02 xda atom life..yes you can replace the keyboard with another software that suits your taste..i loved more my atom when i upgraded it to Windows 6.5 thanks to chrisch rom..
I'm actually typing this on a tytn now, and I would recommend looking at devices with more ram. The tytn (hermes) struggles with m2d, and with ram intensive progs like tomtom7.
When I can afford to upgrade, I'll mainly be looking for a hardware keyboard as I would hate to be without it, and a vga screen as they are becoming far better supported.
I have the IPAQ 4350 [Not the Phone version]. It is just the regular PocketPC with 2003 OS I believe. I would like to know if this can be upgraded or purchase a newer ROM that handles the limited 64MB RAM memory better. Is version WM 6 or 6.1 even possible. maybe not? If so how do I do this. This is a great forum.
You can find lots of ROMs here yes, but most of them are for the phones, since they are used mostly by people who want to tweak 'em. I'm also still looking for a nice ROM for my Ipaq 4350, but in the meantime I'll just enjoy my Touch Diamond's new ROM If you find a nice ROM please pm me
I have a tilt that ive flashed with dutty and my son has a treo 680. I know this is for 750 but wasn't sure if there was that much different . I am not familiar with palm treos.
Thanks.
Answer is short: no, you can't.
The other way around
I've been searching high and low for way to flash my Treo 750 with something other than WinMo. I'd like the Palm OS. Android is taking too long.
jlsniu said:
I've been searching high and low for way to flash my Treo 750 with something other than WinMo. I'd like the Palm OS. Android is taking too long.
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Get a new phone.
I agree
Already in line for the iphone next week.
and have some one made android ROM for some of the treo? such as 680, or 750? I like treo 680, but no the palm OS!