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wm6 standard questions

hey guys (and girls where aplicable),
i got a question (a sorta dumb one). If a smartphone lik the iPAQ 514 Voice Messenger or the HTC Vox have windows mobile 6 standard does that mean they run regular windows mobile programs or smartphone versions? See the Cheeta/treo 750 has windows mobile standard ed. and is called a smartphone but it uses regular PPC programs, the other two mentioned before have the same wm6 but no touch screen. so i was wondering if that made a diference in the phones capabilities to use PPC Progs? I appreciate any answers as i am greatly puzzled and intregued buy this.

With WM6 they dispensed with the term "smartphone" in favour of WM 6 Standard. Too many non Windows Mobile phones were being called "smart phones" as well as PPC phones.
WM Standard has no support for touch screens and many PPC apps will not run on it.
WM Pro has touchscreens.

understanding versions...
so lemmie go over this... a ppc with a touch screen is said to run WM6 pro, a ppc without a touch screen is said to run wm6 standard the "smartphone" version. so what of the vox? it has all the capabilities of a full sized PPC without the touch screen so where would it and the ipaq 514 fit in? Because correct me if i'm wrong but dont they offer features like MS Office editing and production verus the others whose ability is limited to viewing or is it the WM6 platform that actually enables this?

You're right, its just a functionality of WM6. Any smartphone (i.e. non-Touch screen device) running WM6 has those same office capabilities and will be running WM6 Standard, not Professional.

As far as I know the two WM6 are one same core of the same OS but..
In the PPC version there is more advanced setup in the menus wich setup is locked in the Srtandard by default.
For example in the Standard there is no way to change the IP of the wi-fi manually.
And in the pocket pc there is some dll's, responsible for touchscreen operation .

yes but....
i do believe you might be correct on everything but the I.P setup for standard. i have an sda running wm6 and i can manually setup my wifi and change certain settings in the network config. Also the HP ipaq 514 that i've been researching also has the same features. see my big thing is i love he compact size of the smart phone but need the capabilities of the PPC. It wold be great if i could get the best of both. i know the O2 XDA stealth has that exact combo but they are hard to find and kinda pricey for thier age.

There are separate SDKs for Standard and Pro, so I think the differences run a little deeper.

well what to do?
well i guess my final questions then wuld be what kind of phone are:-
1/ O2's xda stealth
2/ HP's Ipaq 514

Question about Windows Mobile 6.5

Is it possible to have Windows Mobile 6.5 on my Vox in the following future? It looks great, i guess frauhottelmann and Dr. Martin Gonzo can make it (i only know these 2 guys from this board )
look here: http://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/25627/1/

This screen is from HTC Blackstone (Touch HD).
Blackstone is PocketPC

i'm sure bart, but is it possible to make such a rom for my vox? like this design? because it looks very great windows mobile 6.5

I can't cook ROM. Meyby some users (frauhottelmann, dr. Gonzo) cook WM 6.5 on Vox.
All in they hands

There is no WM 6.5 Standard ROM out yet. And I can only repeat myself, Professional on the Vox doesn't make sense to me!
Once I am able to get a WM 6.5 Standard ROM, I will cook one for the Vox!

that would be amazing

Where do you get WM6.5?

Hi, I was surprised today as I found this forum (never heard about WM6.5, especially for (old) HTC Wizard). I'm curious about how do you get WM6.5? I don't think M$ give WM6.5 ROM for free.
I think all WM6.5-Roms here are Beta-versions, right? If so... is there any restrictions? Or can I use WM6.5 on my device like if it's a "fullversion" (SMS, eMail, ActiveSync, Internet...)?
I don't want to start a debate about legal-rights, just as I said I'm curious about it.
cu Floh

Non of the wm 6.5 rom are official and there never will be an official. M$ official release of wm 6.5 will be in october. According to M$ the WM 6.5 is only a skin change of 6.1 and will be an lite version of windows mobile 7 for low end devices and WM 7 for high end. If you want WM 6.5 you can find one in the Windows 6 section under wizard but non official

Thank you.

Some flashing questions

Hello,
I have a Wizard phone - o2 minis s with WM5 installed, which i would like to upgrade to WM6. I went through some tutorials, but all of them mainly concentrate on ways to unlock the CID. Neither of them show where to take the WM6 ROM from or how to load it to the phone.
But anyway, i have done my research and found the fallowing comparison:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=427328 and based on it, i choose the [5/Aug/08] TNT.20273 Series "BETA" (Vanilla/Official/Professional) Now, in it's description it says OS Version=20273, Windows Mobile 6.1 DIAMOND. What does the DIAMOND means? Is it some special software or will work only on certain devices?
Can somebody please tell me is it a good choice or maybe provide with a bigger list of available firmwares? What is the difference between chosen by me and the official microsoft distribution?
Thank you for your help.
Wooju

You will find that many cooked ROMs have titles like Diamond, HD, Topaz, etc.
What this means is the chef modeled the ROMs UI after the Diamond, HD, Topaz, etc.
All OEM shipped ROMs are WM5.0, but if you choose cooked ROMs then you can have WM6.0, WM6.1, and WM6.5.

[Q] how to Get Back to WM 6.5 ?

Hi Everybody !
you all know how strange it might be some requests form your boss but this is the most strange one !
My Boss has a system that work on WM 6.5 only and doesn't work on WM 7 and he requested that I should Provide him with 40 New WM 6.5 devices !
you know that they are not available currently So I figured out that I should buy new WM 7 Devices and Flash it Back to WM 6.5 !
I think theoretically this is possible but have anyone tried it ?!!!
I want to Try it on HTC 7 pro Device , Could anyone tell me what the steps I need to do that ?
any other suggested Devices ? I only want it to be New ,with QWERTY keypad and I can install WM 6.5 on it !
Can this be done with an Android Device ?
Thank you all in Advance.

Not possible.
Contact your business carrier and see if they can get anything, otherwise tell boss it is no longer made and WP7 is not an upgrade but a new product which is incompatable and nowhere near as good as WM6.5.
Just tell him MS have lost the plot.

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I feel your pain mate, WM6.5 was great and MS have taken a huge leap backwards. We're not alone either, their market share has plummetted due to the move as people have either desperately scrounged for WM6.5 devices or moved to Android and had their in house apps re-written or found new alternatives.

WP7 and winmo 6.5 are completely different and not backwards compatible as said above.
Winmo 6.5 was good, but Mango is promising, however, specifically written programs written for business are a different ball game, get on to ebay and buy some HD2's, unless you know a developer who can re-write the programme for WP7?

timmymarsh said:
WP7 and winmo 6.5 are completely different and not backwards compatible as said above.
Winmo 6.5 was good, but Mango is promising, however, specifically written programs written for business are a different ball game, get on to ebay and buy some HD2's, unless you know a developer who can re-write the programme for WP7?
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There is no Upgrading for the System !
I will try the HD2 Choice.
Thank you for your support.

The hd2 is awesome. I've had win6.5, win7, ubuntu and a ton of android versions on it. If you have an issue, just wipe it clean and start over.