Apologies if this has been asked before, but I couldn't find a reference or solution.
I have a t-mobile DASH (or an HTC Excalibur) and with some updated ROMs it is terrific - especially Ricky's 6.1 version.
There are occasions when I want to type by number as if I were not using a qwerty keyboard - in other words if I were using an old fashioned phone. So to enter bill, I would type 2455 on an old fashioned phone. I need to do this when I call some idiot company that only has an automated attendant and they ask me to "use the keypad to enter the person's name". The letters they want for bill are 2455. I send something - no idea what from the qwerty keyboard and I don't get what I need :-(. Is there an (easy) way of getting dialpad tones sent when letters are pressed?
Thanks in advance all.
Chris Bird
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I'm trying to make HTC realize they have a bug in their Touch Keyboard/XT9 but they're driving me around the bend.
1st report I made never got further than auto-generated receipt mails and then it just died - radio silence.
2nd report I made has now gone to the "beating around the bush" state; where they either try to stall it or send me info of how to almost "work around" that I have mailed them myself in the original report. They have not yet acknowledged that there's an error.
I'm wondering if anybody has any experience with the HTC Support?
Is this the normal behaviour? Has anyone gotten something out of reporting an error to them?
Just trying to figure out if I may expect something to come out of it.
That is standard behaviour for ANY IT support, of any kind
Please, IT support people, don't take offense - of course there are always exceptions and after all, my own company is in this business too The point I'm making is that this kind of evasive non-support is fast becoming the rule rather than the exception. Too bad for us, the losers, I mean the users.
hmm
As an indendent software developer (for 17 years) I can only imagine how fast I'd be out of business if I responded in this way to my customers!!
... but then, of course, I don't have places like xda-developers to "do my support for me". HTC should send kisses and "device of your pick" to these people who are so enthusiastic and helpful, cause if we imagine that HTC was the only place to go, I think people would get tired with their service pretty fast.
Besides, there are a lot of IT related companies that offer much better respons - even Microsoft is better! TomTom is better, the developers of various freeware ppc-apps are better, Oracle is better.... I could go on.
Think of it this way: In Denmark a Cruise is 4400 DKR (~ 880 USD or 587 EUR) without TomTom or anything - just out-of-the-box. I think that's quite a bit, so you don't expect to be left on "your own" if you find errors in it.
To type one Danish letter (one out three Danish letters doesn't work right because of the Touch Keyboard XT9) you need 8 tappings if you want to use word completion and the on-screen keyboard:
1. select the Touch Keyboard,
2. disable XT9,
3. return to the on-screen keyboard,
4. type the letter,
5. select the Touch Keyboard,
6+7. enable XT9 (needs 2 tappings),
8. return to the on-screen keyboard,
...continue typing until you need to type the next not-working-letter.
Google for this letter and you get 94.100.000 hits. Not entirely irrelevant and I call it an error.
Another experience with HTC Support
I was asking HTC which files to use on the HTC Application CD delivered with the phone. There are two files seemingly related to backup: P3650_BackupTool_5.1.0.b1450_HTC_WWE_20071102.exe and SpriteBackupEnglishPersonalSetup.exe file.
It doesn't say in the manual which one, but just: "Insert the Application Disc on your computer's CD or DVD drive and install Sprite Backup to your device".
The answer from HTC is, quote: "Many tanks for contact us. To respond about your query, I am so sorry but we do not support this informations, you have to ask at the official web site of sprite backup"
I wonder how much Sprite knows about the HTC Cd....
I have never during 25 years in software business encountered such bad support from any company! I'm beginning to doubt if the people who receive support mails understand much English.
With my TyTN = Hermes and WM6.0 the autosuggestion of words seems much better than the Raphaels (at least in the hardware keybord stance).
Can someone explain why that is or if I have haven´t understood the utility or something else right?
With TyTN it basically suggests 4 alternatives in a diagonal way, it can be one word or SEVERAL words in a row, depending on what I´we written before. And you choose from them with the upp and down arrow keys. Simple and quick.
With Raphael it suggests several ONLY singular words horisontally, and if it´s not in the dictionary it automatically chooses another word than the one you´we just written (!?). Slow and awkward.
Also - who is behind this solution? Windows Mobile 6.1 or is it HTC Raphaels unique solution?
Thanks in advance
/Danne
Anybody have an opinion or information on this matter?
At least the system is a part of WM6.1 or if it´s Raphaels unique solution? Because I´m thinking about buying a Kaiser with WM6.1 instead and wonder if it has the same solution.
Sorry, no additional info, but I'm in the same boat so to speak.
I find it completely useless, specially since I don't always use English in my SMS messages, and I found that it becomes a nightmare if it doesn't find a match and then forces my word to something it thinks it should be.
What I cannot understand is that under Settings-Personal-Input-Word Completion - I have DISABLED it, but it still friking tries to complete my words, even in keyboard mode???
Do you know of another place to disable this dastardly excuse of a feature?
HAH!
Found it! If you want to disable it completely, the do the following:
1) make sure you disable it under settings - all settings - personal - Word Completion.
2) When you open a new message, bring up the virtual keyboard and look for the button that reads "ABC T9" - it has a toggle on the button, make sure it is on "ABC" and NOT T9 -voila!
Now I can SMS again!
I´m glad I was not the only one being irritated about this. But at least it´s possible to turn it off, so thanks for posting the solution Piie
I actually returned my TP because of this and severeal other reasons but I´m thinking about buying it again or some other WM6.1 phone. So do you know if your solution to turn if of works with Word Mobile documents as well?
And still, if somebody knows if it´s part of Raphael or WM6.1, please let me know.
Agreed 100% on the uselessness of word completion feature on the TP. On mine, the T9 feature actually slows the sms application so much as to make it completely unusable. This is probably my biggest complaint with this device.
Yip, following the steps as posted also removes the predictive text completely for Word ( and all other apps I have used so far)...
Thanks piie
I believe its part of the TP keyboard (SIP) not WM6.1 , when i had my kaiser with wm6.1 this "IRRITATING" issue was not there, but when i installed the diamond keyboard on my kaiser, this thing came out...... now its part of the TP because of its keyboard.......... so its HTC
I was getting annoyed with the behavior described in posts 1 and 2, disableds the whole thing too (I had an Excalibur before and it seemed to work far better on this particular aspect).
However, I decided to give the TP's T9 another shot and started changing it's configurations and finally got rid of the annoiance related: when on a text field, bring up the T9 options by pressing "Fn" + "Space", select "T9" settings and on the screen that appears uncheck the "Spell Correction" and "Auto-substitution" boxes.
Now I'm using the word prediction (T9) again just like I used in my old device, tipying much faster! (specially because I commonly write in portuguese and my keyboard is the UK one...).
Hope this helps you guys.
Cheers.
Sweet!
So you can still have predictive text, but remove the actual "irritant" of it overriding your word if it doesn't match it's dictionery - seems like that is the answer to your problem Danne?
For me - I really don't care for ANY kind of prediction - most often than not, even in English, the suggestions are maybe 30% usefull if that...
Great!
Yes, this is solution and now I know it´s part of Raphael/Diamond and not WM6.1!
Still, the Hermes WM6-solution with prediction of several words based on what you previously have written seems better. But I am happy with this!
I guess that´s the last words for me in this discussion.
Thanks guys!
just wondering how to disable word completion without installing htc ezinput, because at input settings by disabling it, doesn't work at all.
here's everything you need to know on how to get back to the old style autocorrect and change your dictionaries: http://www.fuzemobility.com/?p=1527
That however breaks your hardware keyboard
sym key will stop working and you can't get pound and euro sign using FN key....
see my thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470647
I have the Verizon version of the HTC Touch (VX6900). I have tried many keyboards including Zoomboard, HTC Diamond keyboard, Spb Full Screen Keyboard, PCM Keyboard, etc.
Can you suggest a keyboard that "learns" frequent words that you type and suggests them in the future so you can just hit the space bar to type out the word for you? For me I use the same words a lot and I would really benefit from that.
I know there are keyboards that suggest a word as you're typing it like if you start typing "thi" it will show you "thing" or something like that. I actually want a keyboard that will learn words that I type frequently and will suggest that word in future context.
For example if I type "I love that game", the next time I type "I", it will suggest "love" for my next word, then "that" after, etc. Before I updated to Windows Mobile 6.1, my keyboard actually used to do this, and I don't know which one installed that triggered this.
If I would type a word that I typed in the past then it would show the next word that I typed in the past next to it in a shadow color and I would just be able to hit the space bar to autocomplete that word. Does anybody know which keyboard that is? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
Resco Keyboard - Touchpal 3.0
It will suggest words if you want and you can turn it off. It also allows you to change the format from one with multiple letters on one key to one letter per key.
Pretty good software.
addicus said:
Resco Keyboard - Touchpal 3.0
It will suggest words if you want and you can turn it off. It also allows you to change the format from one with multiple letters on one key to one letter per key.
Pretty good software.
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Thanks for the reply but unfortunately I have tried both of those and they don't do what I am looking for. I am looking for a keyboard that will not only suggest words but will learn words and sequences of words that I've used in the past.
Before I updated to Windows Mobile 6.1 it was doing this. I have a feeling it was from a keyboard that I installed but I can't identify which one it was.
For example, let's say I sent a text message to a friend that said "Dude, did you see that Chargers game on Sunday?". Then if I forgot to send it to another friend I can start a new text message and as soon as I type "Dude", it will suggest "did" as my next word, then "you" as the next word after that, then "see" after that and so forth. The next word in line would show up as shadowed grey text and I would just keep pressing the space bar to add those words to my text message automatically.
Does this sound familiar to anyone? Thanks!
Touchpal does this, you can even set the priority of new words it learns. Best SIP IMO.
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Touchpal does this, you can even set the priority of new words it learns. Best SIP IMO.
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Hmm, it still isn't doing what I want it to do unless I'm doing something wrong. Any other suggestions? Thanks!
It was installing the extra keyboards which removed this feature. I use block recognizer, and before I tried out a load of different SIP's, WM6.1 did this. I seem to recall that WM5 and WM6 did as well.
The TouchPAL DOES do that I dont know whats wrong with your phone. It is absolutely everything anyone would want or need in a keyboard IMO lol
I think what you asked is just the standard function from the simplest default microsoft keyboard comes with the original OS. Maybe you need to enable & customize it on Start >> Settings >> Personal >> Input.
By the way, the 'Gesture' function is another very useful character of the default ms keyboard. The gesture is used in this way: You need to silde your stylus, starting from the key you want and ending at the nabourgh key. Example: Slide stylus from s to w key, it will come up with capital S, s to a = backspace, s to d = space, s to x = enter, while only tap on s is just an letter s. Very useful function.
Edit: Please also refer to this thread:
Word Completion does not work!
Hi folks
I just recently purchased the HTC Touch Pro, but am still carrying the HTC Kaiser with me for typing SMS messages as the slideout keyboard on the HTC Touch Pro does not seem to be able to type national letters, like ú,ü,ó,í,ð etc.
I've been looking just about everywhere for a solution, but have so far been unsuccessful. Does anyone here know how to solve this?
Thanks for your interest
Sorry for bumping, but is there seriously noone else who has this problem?
I still have to carry around my HTC Kaiser for the same reason
I don't know about ú,ó,í,ð and these stuff. But ü and the other german "umlauts" are just mapped on the keyboard by using the FN key + letter in the german keyboard layout.
Hello everyone,
After a lot of "tricks& hicks" on my phone, I've lost the ability to type sms, mail and MMS...
I mean I can type the To: with letters, but when typing any letter in the sms area, nothing except a beep.
I've surfed the forum but nothing, I think I changed in the registry the type of input specificity of the tmail.exe when trying to install HTC keyboard, EZ input...
but can't find where.
Does anyone faced that before, and could give me another answer than Hard Rest ?
Best regards, ad long live XDA
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Seems no one ever had this strange sms issue
Hey hey,
I've just seen the answer of skribzy in this topic this night, and it WORKS!!!
big big up to you
QUote:
I had this problems - First get 'HD Tweak'
Open HD Tweak and go down to section 20 (Keyboard)
Disable T9 mode - I think that did it!
Regards and Xda rocks!!!
+1
Cheers Jeant, you just fixed my Diamond from enterring numbers rather than letters in SMS with the keyboard set to phonepad. That'll learn me for changing EVERY setting at once in diamond tweak, if it ain't broke don't fix...