Database Info

Comparing MB ROM and Faria's New ROM

Can anyone compare these 2 ROMs?
I am not sure if this thread was necessary, but i am pretty sure there are others out there just like me, who are very picky or maybe i should say very confiused about upgrading every other week, installing everything all over again and once everything is perfect and stable, doing everything all over again because there is a new ROM cooked..
Much Respect to Faria and Other ROM cookers out there.. I dont mean to disrespect to your great work.. I just want to know if we should wait, or go with the new ROM.. I am pretty sure you great cookers will come up with new ROMs..
Thank you and once again, dont mean to disrespect.. Just curious..

newyorker said:
Can anyone compare these 2 ROMs?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If the MB works fine for you, you don't need to upgrade to another ROM. The Faria's ROM was release for less than 12 hours, people need more times to install programs and check out all of the pro and con.
MB was based on the beta WM6 ROM.
Faria was a new possibly real/final ROM according to him.
Backup your programs using any good backup programs and try the new ROM. If you don't like Faria's ROM, reload the MB ROM and run your backup, it will take less than 15 minutes. Only you can tell if it's good for you or not.

mtvn said:
If the MB works fine for you, you don't need to upgrade to another ROM. The Faria's ROM was release for less than 12 hours, people need more times to install programs and check out all of the pro and con.
MB was based on the beta WM6 ROM.
Faria was a new possibly real/final ROM according to him.
Backup your programs using any good backup programs and try the new ROM. If you don't like Faria's ROM, reload the MB ROM and run your backup, it will take less than 15 minutes. Only you can tell if it's good for you or not.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
good point

Just looking at the listing of whats in that ROM, it looks bloated. I like the cleanness of the MB rom. Ill wait for him to release the vanilla rom before trying it out. I perfer to choose my own apps to load. most of that other stuff i rarely use, why waste the ram and flash space for it.
Faria makes good ROMs. I just perfer mine to be clean, so i can make my own choices.

d0ug said:
Faria makes good ROMs. I just perfer mine to be clean, so i can make my own choices.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you don't like waiting, just unpack it and remove them yourself. It's very easy using the guide in Molksi's website

mtvn said:
If you don't like waiting, just unpack it and remove them yourself. It's very easy using the guide in Molksi's website
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That is something I would like to try doing one of these days. I just havent had the free time.
That will be my next step, trying to make my own custom ROMs.

Yes, I was am waiting as well to see the "vanilla" version of his rom so it doesn't have all those extra programs that I don't use anyway. I don't like that he stripped pieces from the rom either (like VOIP even though it's not working.... yet)

My MB Edition works so good for me now I will wait til all the bugs are worked out and patches posted before I try Faria's latest.

trojan9x said:
Yes, I was am waiting as well to see the "vanilla" version of his rom so it doesn't have all those extra programs that I don't use anyway. I don't like that he stripped pieces from the rom either (like VOIP even though it's not working.... yet)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
or you could simple do your own! as for voip it does not work because ther is no service for it plus the app is imcomplete in all wm6 roms ..so whats the point of having it?

I don't think it's incomplete... well, not totally.. I believe we just need to figure out what will trigger the menu options for it. Well, no one knew the VOIP button was in the comm manager until I tried to add it just for the hell of it. I am sure there are lots to be discovered about it if we had enough people trying things.

trojan9x said:
I don't think it's incomplete... well, not totally.. I believe we just need to figure out what will trigger the menu options for it. Well, no one knew the VOIP button was in the comm manager until I tried to add it just for the hell of it. I am sure there are lots to be discovered about it if we had enough people trying things.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
it is incomplete I'm told and like i said there is no services that supports as yet....
the gurus been at it for ages and this are their conclusions 9at the moment],i Even supplied missing files from Roms that i have, this is supposed to work in future with some carriers.....but if you can make it work then you will be remembered for ieternity . all thought i have a new crossbow rom to test it may be working. for me skype does the job.

faria said:
all thought i have a new crossbow rom to test it may be working. for me skype does the job.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for your input. I am assuming your rom is straight from HTC or from someone you know at HTC? Is this "new" rom different from the one you uploaded yesterday that you had for a year? What is the date on it?

trojan9x said:
Thanks for your input. I am assuming your rom is straight from HTC or from someone you know at HTC? Is this "new" rom different from the one you uploaded yesterday that you had for a year? What is the date on it?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
im afraid,i cant say no more...sorry...
but i cant tell you this....when i release a project that means i allredy got the next one halfway done or finished.

ok, will you at least say if this next "newer" version will be for (or was specifically designed for) the wizard?

As ive read too many bugs for me
Hello m8s. I rather wait for a more stable version. It look like that latest ROM is packed a with a new set of bugs. (No offense faria).
When is the release of the actual WM6??

charly_mx said:
Hello m8s. I rather wait for a more stable version. It look like that latest ROM is packed a with a new set of bugs. (No offense faria).
When is the release of the actual WM6??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
no one knows what the actual release will be. Still haveto wait and see which manufacturers will be giving it out.

charly_mx said:
Hello m8s. I rather wait for a more stable version. It look like that latest ROM is packed a with a new set of bugs. (No offense faria).
When is the release of the actual WM6??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
none taken...
and what bugs are these..? i mean real bugs exactly?
and another wend was the lat time you loaded a rom that perform how is suppose to? truly. custom or official?
i myself call it undocumented features.....

faria said:
none taken...
and what bugs are these..? i mean real bugs exactly?
and another wend was the lat time you loaded a rom that perform how is suppose to? truly. custom or official?
i myself call it undocumented features.....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
One bug - When the Wizard is in Standby mode and set to vibrate, it does not vibrate on new e-mails received. It worked correctly in the 2.26 ROM I was using previously, but didn't work in the 1.18 ROM that was on the device when I first got it. Looks like the behavior is back to the way it was in the early WM5 ROMs. I get the feeling this is deeper than just a tweak to the registry, but would happily be corrected.
As for the "feature" aspect, I think Microsoft refers to them as "opportunities for developers".
-Pete

trojan9x said:
ok, will you at least say if this next "newer" version will be for (or was specifically designed for) the wizard?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Faria??????

paschott said:
One bug - When the Wizard is in Standby mode and set to vibrate, it does not vibrate on new e-mails received. It worked correctly in the 2.26 ROM I was using previously, but didn't work in the 1.18 ROM that was on the device when I first got it. Looks like the behavior is back to the way it was in the early WM5 ROMs. I get the feeling this is deeper than just a tweak to the registry, but would happily be corrected.
As for the "feature" aspect, I think Microsoft refers to them as "opportunities for developers".
-Pete
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
wrong... you comparing 2 totaly diferent roms... and again this is in all crossbow roms...so how do you call it a bug in my rom?
i fact this thread should not exist because there is no other roms that can be compared to?
if you people want to compare o slag anyones work at least make sure that the 2 roms have the same core, dont you think?

Official WM6?

Anybody know/heard about an official WM6 from Cingular or T-Mobile? I want to go official to avoid bugs for now.. if anyone has heard anything about a release date or just anything at all.. post away.. thanks
-Nstefanelli-

nstefanelli said:
Anybody know/heard about an official WM6 from Cingular or T-Mobile? I want to go official to avoid bugs for now.. if anyone has heard anything about a release date or just anything at all.. post away.. thanks
-Nstefanelli-
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, going official doesn't necessarily protect you from bugs. The majority of the cooked roms here don't have major issues (at least not ones that the "official" roms don't have) It will be a while (6 to 8 weeks probably) until we see an official WM6 upgrade for the cingular and/or T-Mobile variants of the hermes. And the newer radios offer major improvements over the "shipped" radios.
Edit: Oops forgot which forum I was in. There most likely will NOT be an official WM6 upgrade for the Wizard devices from Cingular and T-Mobile. The Hermes devices MAY get an upgrade, all new capable phones this year will come with WM6.

the Wizard/MDA/8125 will NOT be getting an official WM6 update. The phone has been discontinued and HTC is not making WM6 ROM for it. Just use one of the cooked ones on here. They are better anyways...

nstefanelli said:
Anybody know/heard about an official WM6 from Cingular or T-Mobile? I want to go official to avoid bugs for now.. if anyone has heard anything about a release date or just anything at all.. post away.. thanks
-Nstefanelli-
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You've been around long enough to know there's no such thing!
A factory ROM is far from being bug free and is the slowest ROM you could ever use.

hah.. true.. ive been through two different htc phones and yea.. i admit the cooks on XDA-Dev are the best of them all.. thanks to all of you
and yes.. they are the fastest

i just wanted the most recent one available, which i guess is .1413 and i have that.. so i guess im waiting for an update

UPDATED: Would you like to see a cooked build of the new 19202?

I have been adding/deleting features and programs in the new 19202 build that NoThrills has so graciously released to us.
Due to it kaiser designed base, giving it amazing speed(even in complete stock form), I was curious as to how many people would like a cooked version released, with some bug fixes, registry tweaks, and also some added utilities.
If you would like this, please respond letting me know what you would like to see in this release. I have already cooked several versions for my own person use, and modified it for my own use.
Just let me know what everyone would like to see, and ill try my best to release a few builds to accommodate the majority.
First Release of my Hybrid OS 5.2.19202 (Build 19209) can be found here after I upload: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2069244#post2069244

Yes please!
I'd love to see the basic ROM with bug fixes and generic updates to the HTC progs. To many ROMs get stuffed with extraneous crap that isn't useful.
Cook away brother, as I'd enjoy the sampling.

I do not think this is a good build to cook from unless you feel like spending lots of time in the kitchen fixing MS screw ups! Has anyone noticed the screen tearing from the new .dlls? plus there are a few other things I won't mention since most of you haven't played with roms that long to understand what I am talking about.

What specifics would you like to see?
Such as apps to be added/removed
What bugs do you think should have priority?
etc, etc...

uDK just released a version...

I'd like to see a "If HTC could be bothered to put all the fixes and S/W updates in all one ROM, This is how it would look ROM"
Camera Fix
Camera Album
Comm Manager
Video Dialer
Calculator
Little fixes like backlight going out on call.
Removing of the useless Windows Update.
But most Important its clean!!! Fresh...
UC compliant for all us to enjoy the phone our way...
I like flashing other peoples work... But thats their work... The way they want the phone... Yes they add little bits and take bits out on request sometimes... But how nice would it be to have our own way...
Argh 1st post other than just a thanks so I babbled and lost my self...

Thanks for your suggestions. I am working on these fixes as I type.
So far I have completed this:
- Working Video Dialer
- Comm Manager(6 Button)
- Latest HTC Album
- Camera Fix(Latest which i have seen)... PLEASE post the cab that contains which fix you are speaking of.
- Calculator
- GPS Test
- Office and OneNote has been removed in the lite version
- Welcome Center removed
- HSDPA Icon added
- HTC Plus added(disabled by default)
- HTC Home updated(now with tab under today settings)
- And more!

all the latest htc apps.....audio manager,home,album etc.....plus total comander is a must...thanks

austinsnyc said:
I do not think this is a good build to cook from unless you feel like spending lots of time in the kitchen fixing MS screw ups! Has anyone noticed the screen tearing from the new .dlls? plus there are a few other things I won't mention since most of you haven't played with roms that long to understand what I am talking about.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
because your soooooo cool.
why not just rls ur own build? you did great work with the first kaiser rom.. continue austin..

why not release it? because it takes more time than it should to turn these WM6.1 pigs into something worth having on my phone I have worked many roms and this is fast yes I'll agree but it also has some major bugs simply follow the release thread and you will see. plus this build isn't released from MS it has been modded in some little ways which are fine with me since that's what needed to be done so as we wouldn't know where it came from.

austinsnyc said:
plus this build isn't released from MS it has been modded in some little ways which are fine with me since that's what needed to be done so as we wouldn't know where it came from.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Exactly. For some reason we are unable to get the "Shipped ROM" per say. The non-cooked version.
...the fact that this thread header is asking what we would like in a cooked build, is actually false. The only 5.2.19202 we have is a cooked build. I would like to a see a non-cooked build

im running dk's 3.14 and jesus its the fastest 6.1 rom ive ran to date.. ok well whenever u decide to mod ur own 3.14 rls will u post it? lol

cuboosh said:
im running dk's 3.14 and jesus its the fastest 6.1 rom ive ran to date.. ok well whenever u decide to mod ur own 3.14 rls will u post it? lol
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh no...I don't cook. I can't handle the heat so I stay out of the kitchen. I leave to the professionals.

IGO2008
YES, I wont this new ROM
Please check to work with igo2008, now I mast reset device to start igo this is not good.

AllTheWay said:
Oh no...I don't cook. I can't handle the heat so I stay out of the kitchen. I leave to the professionals.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
noo.. i was refering to austinsync lol

htc large start menu that works......working tcmp if possible? better looking icons and system folders(u know mulitmedia ,system tools etc.)

cuboosh said:
im running dk's 3.14 and jesus its the fastest 6.1 rom ive ran to date.. ok well whenever u decide to mod ur own 3.14 rls will u post it? lol
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yes I will release it. im already running a version that I've already modded for my own personal needs. I just am trying to see what will the majority of users would like to see

Script said:
yes I will release it. im already running a version that I've already modded for my own personal needs. I just am trying to see what will the majority of users would like to see
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Can you add a skype fix to your bug list please.

AllTheWay said:
Exactly. For some reason we are unable to get the "Shipped ROM" per say. The non-cooked version.
...the fact that this thread header is asking what we would like in a cooked build, is actually false. The only 5.2.19202 we have is a cooked build. I would like to a see a non-cooked build
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, I'm not a professional cook. But I flashed about every ROM that was ever out here, both on my Hermes and my Kaiser.
And despite of your reactions, AllTheWay and Austinsnyc, I really really dig this ROM. Never had a faster and snappier ROM before (even not Dutty's), no single freeze for 4 days, never needed to softreset.
I don't use voicecommander, but I dó use bluetooth (carkit, external phone), GPRS, HSDPA, phone, TomTom, Navigon, PointUI, PZPTools, etc. It all works great!
Yes, there are some problems reported, but aren't they also with Dutty's, Schaps, Alex's?
And yes, it may be a cooked ROM, but for me it's really worth further developing...

austinsnyc said:
I do not think this is a good build to cook from unless you feel like spending lots of time in the kitchen fixing MS screw ups! Has anyone noticed the screen tearing from the new .dlls? plus there are a few other things I won't mention since most of you haven't played with roms that long to understand what I am talking about.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
More like because you are incompetent...
austinsnyc said:
why not release it? because it takes more time than it should to turn these WM6.1 pigs into something worth having on my phone I have worked many roms and this is fast yes I'll agree but it also has some major bugs simply follow the release thread and you will see. plus this build isn't released from MS it has been modded in some little ways which are fine with me since that's what needed to be done so as we wouldn't know where it came from.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Or is it because all of your past releases for any device failed?
AllTheWay said:
Exactly. For some reason we are unable to get the "Shipped ROM" per say. The non-cooked version.
...the fact that this thread header is asking what we would like in a cooked build, is actually false. The only 5.2.19202 we have is a cooked build. I would like to a see a non-cooked build
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Never going to happen until a carrier is going to release it, so why even bring it up?

Windows Mobile 6.5 has gone gold?

Just found this article over on Engadget that proclaims that (via Twitter) Microsoft has announced that 6.5 has, indeed, gone gold.
Engadget Post here.

Cool, but haven't most of us flashed to some cooked v. already? Neat, but mundane-ish.

Sounds great! I hope microsoft will release it soon.

Can I still get it when my phone isn't flashed and is still on default software?

Ok, for those of you who had the at&t "Tilt" (Kaiser), if we use the same timeline....MS RTM'd 6.5, let's say they ship it in July. If we use that as a benchmark, and remember how long it took at&t to release 6.1 for the Tilt, it will be December 09 at the EARLIEST before we could see (if at all) 6.5 show up "officially" on the Touch Pro. LOL.......
If it wasn't for the cooks on XDA, we'd be slaves to whenever the carriers would get around to releasing updates. "Timely manor" is not in their vocabulary.

cbreze said:
Cool, but haven't most of us flashed to some cooked v. already? Neat, but mundane-ish.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So how is this mundane? We have been running beta software up to this point.

jcotterman said:
So how is this mundane? We have been running beta software up to this point.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Chill man, it's sarcasm. Did ya notice the eyes rolling? But it's not going to be a whole lot diff except for hopefully less buggy, and the beta's I've been running have been really pretty solid for the most part. I'm looking forward to this as much as anybody. Lets loosen up. Life's way to short.

Good news, but I don't think there will be many differences with current custom 6.5 roms. Of course it's good to have the latest stable version as the base for custom roms.

jcotterman said:
Just found this article over on Engadget that proclaims that (via Twitter) Microsoft has announced that 6.5 has, indeed, gone gold.
Engadget Post here.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No gold, no happy!
6.5 is very slowly！

Might not be "gold" but the roms on XDA are pretty good. Installed 6.5 last night, MUCH faster than 6.1. UI has NO lag.
rigelfrog said:
No gold, no happy!
6.5 is very slowly！
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

p51d007 said:
Might not be "gold" but the roms on XDA are pretty good. Installed 6.5 last night, MUCH faster than 6.1. UI has NO lag.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
With TF3D or with the new 6.5 look?

iceman4357 said:
With TF3D or with the new 6.5 look?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Either or. It's about a billion times faster.

The rom I downloaded, was RRE's series 6, 6.5 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=506837
He has the default wm6.5 interface (called chrome) & the tf3d interface. You simply toggle the one you want from the today screen.
My Fuze is MUCH faster... no screen lag, even when rotating. I'm still using the TF3D interface, haven't had much time to tinker with anything...too busy at work. If you've never flashed one, other than a rom update from a carrier (if yours is carrier locked), you'll need to do some reading. Read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448008
Simple, straight forward steps on how to flash one.
I already knew what I needed, but ran the instructions step by step..."stupidly simple" as I like to call it. Once you get hard SPL changed,
flashing is the same (if you use the Rom Update Utility). It updates, reboots, and you are done.
iceman4357 said:
With TF3D or with the new 6.5 look?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

I have been waiting for 6.5 to be out of beta before flashing. I will probably flash 6.5 tonight anyways...even if 6.5 is gold...it will be awhile before we get our hands on an offical release.

Yeah, if you have an at&t fuze....I remember when the 6.1 update came out...it took at&t over 6 months to finally release it "officially".
The 6.5 is the first "cooked" rom I've used. I won't use a "carrier" rom update
again. These are for lack of another term, bloat free.
This one has a few apps and some really nice tools that i download and install
anyway. The program "update" utility is really nice to have.
krook6023 said:
.it will be awhile before we get our hands on an offical release.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

p51d007 said:
The rom I downloaded, was RRE's series 6, 6.5 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=506837
He has the default wm6.5 interface (called chrome) & the tf3d interface. You simply toggle the one you want from the today screen.
My Fuze is MUCH faster... no screen lag, even when rotating. I'm still using the TF3D interface, haven't had much time to tinker with anything...too busy at work. If you've never flashed one, other than a rom update from a carrier (if yours is carrier locked), you'll need to do some reading. Read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448008
Simple, straight forward steps on how to flash one.
I already knew what I needed, but ran the instructions step by step..."stupidly simple" as I like to call it. Once you get hard SPL changed,
flashing is the same (if you use the Rom Update Utility). It updates, reboots, and you are done.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I chg's the rom on my Tilt from 6.0 to 6.1 and would like to do the same on my Fuze 6.1 to 6.5. Can this be done without reinstalling all my software or was it like the Tilt, start from scratch?

Start from scratch. One of the guys at work changed his tilt from 6.1 to 6.5 and loves it.
Rickgig said:
I chg's the rom on my Tilt from 6.0 to 6.1 and would like to do the same on my Fuze 6.1 to 6.5. Can this be done without reinstalling all my software or was it like the Tilt, start from scratch?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

getting 6.5
Im very sure this is a noob question but how do I get WM 6.5? My AT&T Fuze (which is aparently the "raphael" ) I have 6.1 and whenever I use WM update it tells me I have the latest version. wtf. or is 6.5 even officialy out yet?

xOCEANx said:
Im very sure this is a noob question but how do I get WM 6.5? My AT&T Fuze (which is aparently the "raphael" ) I have 6.1 and whenever I use WM update it tells me I have the latest version. wtf. or is 6.5 even officialy out yet?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's not officially out yet as I understand.
The link posted within the quote from my post above will take you where you need to go for the 6.5 rom. I haven't done it yet and it was really painless on my Tilt when I had it.
I am assuming that this ROM doesn't contain the bloatware that we have to deal with in the official "AT&T" ROM. I mention this cause there was a little trick that had to be done in order to bypass the bloatware load. It really wasn't that tough although it did take me a coule of tries before I got it right.
If you haven't modified your phone much then just follow the instructions. If you've added software and other tweeks... you will have to reload them again (based on the reply from "p51d007").
If you need help this board is awesome. Also you can send me a PM and I'll try to help best I can.

UPDATE of ROM HTC Touch Diamond2

Anyone knows what change in this update?

nothing special, only makes the mobile slower and full of lag and spends much, much more battery! this ROM is not worth anything ...

update to manila 2.5

Awesome

Not true...
xvex said:
nothing special, only makes the mobile slower and full of lag and spends much, much more battery! this ROM is not worth anything ...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've tried custom ROM's cooked from this version, and I've been using this official release from HTC for a couple of days... there is no difference at all in battery drain, and I would even suggest that this official ROM is smoother and speedier than some of the cooked ROM's I've tried! Each to their own

The main HTC website will not accept my serial number - is there any where else to get this rom?
cheers

New HTC ROM..
http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2117

grahamkdt said:
I've tried custom ROM's cooked from this version, and I've been using this official release from HTC for a couple of days... there is no difference at all in battery drain, and I would even suggest that this official ROM is smoother and speedier than some of the cooked ROM's I've tried! Each to their own
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Spot on. I think the other poster never tried the latest official rom because it is faster and the battery is slightly better than most of the custom roms I have used. I think this one is keeper just for the faster Manila 2.5 (faster than any custom rom using the Rhodium/Topaz friendly Manila). Navigation is much more fluid.

thanks for the link looby.
Is this rom network unlocked? as my current one is sim free and works on any network?
cheers

New ROM..
It is and it is exactly the same as the one on the HTC site..

ok, i think i go update to this rom and see

looby said:
http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2117
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm in Australia (part of Asia Pacific)- which ROM should I use??

New Topaz ROM..
There is another thread on this ROM upgrade if you search. I saw this on it I don't know if it is what you are looking for..
Asia WWE 2.53.707.4 is now available: http://www.htc.com/sea/SupportViewNe...15&news_id=599

HTC tell me my serial number is an eastern-european handset. Does anybody know if I can still use the WWE Rom?

Is this the same exact ROM which Htcpedia posted long time ago?
Can someone confirm if adding words to T9 works, does it remember?

can anyone confirm that this is an Asia and UK rom only? as i understand it, this update is not available for North America, correct?

As far as I test on this new ROM, I think the only slow part is the home tab, it may probably cause by the buttom shortcuts, if you hide them, the performance will be better.
Other than this small issue, I think generally it perform much better than the previous official ROM, not just the major improvement of the user interface, but also the program running performance.

Can someone advise as to the version of WinMo in this upgrade? Is it 6.5 or have HTC moved to 6.5.x? Am debating whether to go for this or stay where I am.
Thanks in advance.
Regards
Balders

According to Settings it's just 6.5 Professional.
Hope that helps.

It does thank you...but it is a shame that they have not taken the opportunity to advanc the version of WinMo...but then I suppose that we should be thanksful that they have taken the trouble to offer a Sense update.