Your thoughts on TyTN II vs Treo 800w vs Xperia - General Topics

Hi. Just wanted some opinions here. I'm currently a TyTN II user. But I've seen the new Xperia and 800w Treo(rumored) specs, and they look promising. I use wifi alot, not much in the name of GPS, but heavy texting/emailing, not much of document editing while on my PDA (that's why I carry around my MacBook Pro ) and also, definitely, as an organizer(d'oh) Which phone do you think I should go with? Should I stick? Or change? To which? Please state your reasons why too.

I will keep my opinion reserved till something is known about the Tero screen if it is 320 X 320 or 240 X 240.
Right now I am waiting for my ipaq 614C to arrive to replace my TyTn II

The Xperia looks really nice with a great screen (no multipoint touchscreen yet though). Specs look great.
The treo looks like crap. I hate their keyboards. The screen hasn't changed, and it still only has a 1.3MP camera.
I'll definitely be taking a look at the Sony.

Let's assume for the sake of the poll that Treo is 320x320. What then?

Stick with the TyTN II until they are released, which still isn't for quite a while.

As soon as the Xperia is released, the kaiser will almost certainly have the graphics drivers ported to it which will make it even better than it is now.
Gimik said:
The Xperia looks really nice with a great screen (no multipoint touchscreen yet though). Specs look great.
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Multi touch is not supported by WM ATM, so no advantage in having hardware thats better than the software.

Stick with the TyTn II. When the others are available, let's see then. IMO the Treo is not a big advantage over the TyTn (by the way, it's 320x320). The Xperia looks really nice but won't be available for a long time, and then, we know nothing about the price and final features. When it IS available, will it still be the most interesting gadget, or will there be others? Why should you make your mind about that now, when we know nothing about the future?

Given that the biggest complaints about the TyTN II are things that no-one knew would be an issue until after it launched, it would seem to be very premature for anyone to be saying that they will be getting either of those devices. Surely what happened with the TyTN II makes this point all the more salient; I am guessing that there was a lot of hype for it, and now a large minority of users are desperately unhappy with it.
For the record, I am extremely happy with mine. The other 2 devices would have to be truly outstanding to persuade me to move on.

Hmmm... interesting... Xperia winning over TyTN II by a slight margin... but 800w no points... keep it coming guys!!

Sony Xperia X1 does not have the driver for MSM7200 too, but seem Sony may going to implement it when it is "necessary"
So, any advantages compare to TYTN 2?

Wow!! Treo800w has 0 votes... darn!!

I really liked what I seen until now about Xperia

daniel_rh said:
I really liked what I seen until now about Xperia
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what changed your mind?

i voted keep tytn but im also a strong suporter in the xperia i just said keep tytn cus for the stuff you say you use the xperia wont be any better then your kaiser

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Which new pocket PC should I buy ? (Help, please)

I currently own an O2 XDA IIi (HTC Alpine), I am quite satisfied with it but it has gotten a bit old, there is no OS upgrade, so I cannot enjoy many of the new apps which are made exclusively for WM5.0/6.0/6.1. I am wondering which device to buy. I thought about :
- getting an HTC Advantage
- getting an HTC Kaiser
- getting O2 XDA Flame (but WM 5.0!!!!)
- waiting for E-ten V900 or SE Xperia X1
I use my PPC as a phone (about 1-2 calls a day, 2-3 SMS a day), to play MP3 (about 1-2 hours a day), to play some games especially using FPSECE PSX emulator. I also use it as a "mini-PC".
The Advantage seems to be extremely powerful but I am afraid itmight be too big for me (I want to know how it compares to an XDAIIi with 2400 mAh battery thus making it thicker; I also want to know how the Kaiser compares to Nokia 6600 ).
HTC Kaiser also appears to be a good choice but I am not sure it will be powerful enough for me, especially with the driver problem.
I also thought of waiting for E-ten V900 or SE Xperia X1 (especially the latter), but I want a new PPC before July, and I am not sure when these devices will be released.
Another question : what about upgrading to Windows Mobile 7.0 in the future? Will it be possible ? Or is the question thoroughly irrelevant as the OS is still under development ?
Can you help choose my future device ? Thanks
have you looked into this? I see it on your list but is it at the top?
http://www.sonyericsson.com/x1/default.aspx?lc=en&cc=us
mchapman007 said:
have you looked into this? I see it on your list but is it at the top?
http://www.sonyericsson.com/x1/default.aspx?lc=en&cc=us
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The problem is that I want a PPC before July, but the device is quite impressive !
seether said:
The problem is that I want a PPC before July, but the device is quite impressive !
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I hear what your saying. I've been getting very anxious to upgrade my current ppc and the X1 is what I want. I told my wife, if I upgrade to the Tilt now, she will inherit it when the X1 comes out. She also would also inherit my 8525 if I got the Tilt now. apparently I'm out of my gaourd.... Needless to say, thats a ton of money just to get what I want.
Good luck with your descision....
ROLL UP FOR THE MYSTERY TOUR - wat the **** is that -
the fone looks ace - but that advert is everything that is wrong with america!
before i got my advantage [im getting another one soon...] i went on pdadb, and got the measurements. then i drew the outlines on some paper, and compared them to my hermes. the best thing was, it was thinner, and really not that much bigger...
kinda made the final decision about getting it
Rory
last info i got on the release of x1 was september
Jonjamesm said:
ROLL UP FOR THE MYSTERY TOUR - wat the **** is that -
the fone looks ace - but that advert is everything that is wrong with america!
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Nice. I thought Sony Ericsson was a Japanese company. Or they make the product and America promotes it?
Go here and pick you own region and give us your thoughts then.
http://www.sonyericsson.com/x1/default.aspx
rorydaredkign said:
before i got my advantage [im getting another one soon...] i went on pdadb, and got the measurements. then i drew the outlines on some paper, and compared them to my hermes. the best thing was, it was thinner, and really not that much bigger...
kinda made the final decision about getting it
Rory
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So, does it fit in your pocket ? (My XDA IIi fits but it's a bit thick ) Is the performance really good ? (much better than that of Kaiser, for instance ?)
it's pretty much the same hardware as kaiser so it all comes down to if
sonyE is also too cheap to pay qualcomm for their driver
Well, depends wht pocket. School trousers... no. skinny jeans obviously not. tracksuit bottoms, yep. Blazer pocket definitely.
So it depends on where you want it lol.
Its about double the speed of any of my other devices. But i guess thats because the other two both lacked something, the tytn lacked the ram, and my touch lacks the processor.
The advantage has it all. which is why im getting another one.
Rory
Definitely NOT xda Stealth
hmm
my next toy will def be the X1 from sony just look awsome . as far as the advantage man thats not much money for a phone might as well buy a laptop or a EEE PC from asus they rock. love my EEE

Suggest me a phone please?

Hi all
I looking for a UK mobile phone that does the following:
Wifi
GPS
Windows mobile
It must be as small as possible. Loading new firmware/software on is no problem. Secondhand or brand new. Open to options on the price.
What are your suggestions?
whats your budget? if you want a nice one, htc touch diamond is thin and small, probably the best if ur open on price. if you want a cheaper one, the kaiser might work although it is big. windows mobile phones generally arent small, especially the ones from htc. try looking to samsung, lg, and other companies, im not familiar so i cant provide much insight..
Samsun Omnia all the way!
I would say, forget about HTC and get yourself a SAMSUNG Omnia!
Latest HTC models, including Diamond, Kaiser, Touch Pro, Touch HD and many others have problem with GPS lag, bad or no video drivers, and many other irritating and annoying bugs!
Samsung Omnia has none of these problems!
ya thats what i would say. im dumping my diamond on ebay so if you want it, http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&item=260336534297.
is there a huge user-based discussion board like the htc specifically for that device tho? thats what im worried about. flashing roms and other stuff wouldnt be the same without dedicated cookers.
my main question for anyone here is which one is better out of the 3: Samsung Omnia, Sony Xperia X1, or HTC Touch HD/Touch Pro?
untrueparadox said:
my main question for anyone here is which one is better out of the 3: Samsung Omnia, Sony Xperia X1, or HTC Touch HD/Touch Pro?
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Here's some interesting results where the HD came out ahead:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=462781
Vero44 said:
Hi all
I looking for a UK mobile phone that does the following:
Wifi
GPS
Windows mobile
It must be as small as possible. Loading new firmware/software on is no problem. Secondhand or brand new. Open to options on the price.
What are your suggestions?
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Welcome
I would recommend you to look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446362
And you´ll see what XDA members think about the best device
My recommendation is an HTC definetly! as you will have the great support and knowledge of this great site
Once you check here: http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdachooser
According to your needs and $$ you´ll be able to decide
Good luck,
Thanks for the suggestions so far. Budget is an issue but I'd not like to restrict choice at the moment as I'd like to see what's out there that fits the bill first. Besides, mobile phone operators here often give the phones away or sell them cheaply to get your business so retail price is not always what you pay.
Any more suggestions?
if u dont have to have windows, u can try a blackberry, iphone (not recommended, overrated crap in my view), or the nokia high end ones that run symbian.
untrueparadox said:
ya thats what i would say. im dumping my diamond on ebay so if you want it, http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&item=260336534297.
is there a huge user-based discussion board like the htc specifically for that device tho? thats what im worried about. flashing roms and other stuff wouldnt be the same without dedicated cookers.
my main question for anyone here is which one is better out of the 3: Samsung Omnia, Sony Xperia X1, or HTC Touch HD/Touch Pro?
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Omnia forum should serve you as a "Huge user-based discussion board", and yes there are dedicated cookers for the device
I used to have Touch pro and Touch Diamond and I can say that both of them are no match comparing to omnia, and what I can make out from reading the threads on the Touch HD forum, it has the same hardware as Touch pro, and it also has the same buggs! Meaning that it has GPS lag, crapy video performance, and probably some other things as well!
Omnia is just much more snappier, yes it has less ram, but really, comparing to the other devices it´s much quicker!
Oh and please, if you have the possibillity to test all devices for comparison please do that, don´t trust the performence tests that you can find on various sites, that is only numbers that looks good on paper, but in reality it really is not at all that good!
Just go and read in the Touch pro or Touch HD forum, search for posts about performance or GPS lag or video drivers, and you will understand what I mean!
Also there are several youtube videos showing the many issues these devices have!
Oh and I just have to mention that I have had about 10 different HTC devices so far over the years, and almost all of them has been just as crappy! The only HTC device that I still own, and that actually outperforms the new HTC devices that are sold today is the good old Universal!
Anyway, good luck with your decision and let us know if you have any more questions! Would be good to know what you decide in the end, and why you decided for that particular device! Hope to hear from you soon!
Speaking to my current provider O2, I can get either an XDA ignito or a Samsung Pixon, both on very good tariffs. Both have wifi, the Samsung seems to have a great camera (8MegaPixel) but it's the phone, GPS and WiFi I shall use the most.
Any comments to help me choose between these 2?
i am going to point out the obvious in case someone else stumbles over this thread, the Ignito is a re-badged Touch Diamond Personally i have no observations to make as i have been happy with my HTC devices so far.
Finances prevent me from looking into the latest and greatest, my Trinity does all i need of it. If i want a digital camera i have a pocket sized Fuji, and mobile music is catered for by an iPod Classic, 120Gb, so no shortage of music there.

HTC Kaiser or SE Xperia X1

Hello,
I'm in a bit trouble
I used Xperia since December 2008. But I am not satisfied with my phone. Don't really know why, but there aren't interesting things what I could do with my phone. It's still booring.
Now I want to sell it. Before X1 appeared on market I was interested in HTC Kaiser.
Have someone used both phones? Which is better?
I thought, I sell my X1 and buy me a HTC Kaiser.
testering said:
Hello,
I'm in a bit trouble
I used Xperia since December 2008. But I am not satisfied with my phone. Don't really know why, but there aren't interesting things what I could do with my phone. It's still booring.
Now I want to sell it. Before X1 appeared on market I was interested in HTC Kaiser.
Have someone used both phones? Which is better?
I thought, I sell my X1 and buy me a HTC Kaiser.
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Better is hard to answer as will depend on each person personal tastes.
I was an owner of a Kaiser and it was a great device, Xperia just used a cuple of times from a friend and I can say I´ll keep the Kaiser.
But why not to wait a few months and get the Touch Pro 2?
Just my opinion
Good luck,
if you're looking for something on the same general level of the kaiser (since the xperia has more memory, a larger screen and better resolution), you can just get a polaris. i have one and it's a wonderful device.
if you want to upgrade.. i'd go with orb and wait for either the touch pro 2 (if you need a hardware keyboard) or a diamond 2..

Raphael vs Rhodium

Hi all,
maybe a stupid question but maybe not.
I usually use a Kaiser and a Blackstone and I'd like to buy a new device BUT I can't understand last choices from HTC...
Why Rhodium can be better than Raphael...? only for the bigger screen and tilt? For only these reasons I can't accept to have a so big device in my pants!!!
I compared datasheet but I can't find anything more... can you explain me the secret of this comparison?
Bisis said:
Hi all,
maybe a stupid question but maybe not.
I usually use a Kaiser and a Blackstone and I'd like to buy a new device BUT I can't understand last choices from HTC...
Why Rhodium can be better than Raphael...? only for the bigger screen and tilt? For only these reasons I can't accept to have a so big device in my pants!!!
I compared datasheet but I can't find anything more... can you explain me the secret of this comparison?
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Well
Design is much better on TP2, size screen, keyboard (As some mention)
Have a lookinto Rhodium section and see what others say about it
Just my opinion
OK. As you can already see from my signature, I am a raphael owner. The thing I like in new tp is the resolution. But thats all.. Its way too big and design is too japanese - like a soap. The "old" TP, Diamond and new Diamond2 has beautiful straight lines which makes it look sterling and maybe a bit more objective/traditional. Not so biopod-like (check the movie "eXistenZ"). The new TP2 has also a proximity sensor and a newer manila (which will be fully ported any moment now to other phones). The keyboard... I dont know. I have no problems with mine as I use it all the time to chat in MSN/skype. I removed these apps from my laptop. But as we already know the specs are VERY similar.
And of course - the new TP2 is much more expensive. Compared to the differences the new TP2 is just a marketing trick.
Like the previous poster I am also saying that this is my own opinion
darfri said:
And of course - the new TP2 is much more expensive.
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The strange thing is that unofficial news speak about a lower price than tpro. If so I'll be really confused.
I agree with your opinion... maybe diamond2 (compared to HD that I own) and pro2 are only made for marketing trick
darfri said:
OK. As you can already see from my signature, I am a raphael owner. The thing I like in new tp is the resolution. But thats all.. Its way too big and design is too japanese - like a soap. The "old" TP, Diamond and new Diamond2 has beautiful straight lines which makes it look sterling and maybe a bit more objective/traditional. Not so biopod-like (check the movie "eXistenZ"). The new TP2 has also a proximity sensor and a newer manila (which will be fully ported any moment now to other phones). The keyboard... I dont know. I have no problems with mine as I use it all the time to chat in MSN/skype. I removed these apps from my laptop. But as we already know the specs are VERY similar.
And of course - the new TP2 is much more expensive. Compared to the differences the new TP2 is just a marketing trick.
Like the previous poster I am also saying that this is my own opinion
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tp2's design is not finalized yet. So we'll see i guess.
Check out the Rhodium section for exciting info...a few have just bought the TP2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=488

Touch Diamond, Xperia X1 or IPhone

First off, just want to say hi to everyone. I've been browsing the forums recently and finally registered. Hope to stay for a while!
Anyways, I'm trying to decide between which smartphone to get. The HTC Diamond, Xperia X1 or the iPhone. The only reason why the iPhone is not a winner in my books is due mainly to its appearance. I love small sleek phones and the iPhone is far from it (in my opinion) but its functionality is hard to ignore.
I'm in Canada with Rogers so the HTC Hero was out of reach for me (I've had some bad experiences with Telus) so its basically down to these 3. I've talked to a Rogers salesmen who really bashed the Windows Mobile; claiming that its quite slow, especially the Diamond. Claims that its quite sluggish and just not worth it. I'm not at all familiar with the ROM scene and all that but willing to learn. Are there ways to enhance the devices running WM? Any sort of opinion on any of these phones would be greatly appreciated.
Welcome to HTC XDA! None of the above...Of course we recommend HTC HD2 top of the line PPC!! See the LEO section for the specs & info...
SE Xperia 10
I´ll choose Xperia because it´s keyboard so my vote goes for it
But there are much better HTC devices like Touch Pro 2 (the best hardware keyboard device) or Leo (the best no hardware kb device)
Thank you for the welcome.
As much as I'd like to try out the Leo, X10 or Touch Pro 2, availability is an issue. I'd like a phone pretty much now and as I only want to buy under local retail, my options are significantly hindered.
So, lets pretend all your lives depends on picking one of the 3 phones listed?
Ok, so I've tried all three of them and I own a X1 (and a touch HD).
I would say get X1 over Diamond, reasons:
X1 has hardware keyboard
X1 has higher resolution screen
Both are very customizable thanks to custom ROMs etc from XDA.
With the iPhone, everything just works out of the box.
Nice big capacitive touch screen, finger friendly.
Loads of apps in the app store (for almost every need, like find the nearest ATM, play the flute, etc etc.)
The downside is that it isn't so customizable unless you jailbreak it.
IF you jailbreak it, a whole new world appears, (no warez talk here, but) you can get your hands on everything the "illegal" way (games, apps, etc), but also making your phone less secure (thanks to the jailbreak).
Obviously pirated stuff are also avaliable for PPCs.
So I would say it's between the X1 and the iPhone.
Where as the iPhone seems to be for the younger audience and the X1 feels more "business".
Also see:
http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/29/iphone-vs-htc-touch-diamond-vs-xperia-x1-fight/
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Where as the iPhone seems to be for the younger audience and the X1 feels more "business".
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I agree with your statements re iphone except for the last bit, I'm 45 and have just bought my 1st iphone and so far i'm lovin it
Mav

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