I have a contract with my cellphone company that provides me besides normal cellphone service, unlimited calls to a group of people in my country, all people in that group are identified with an aditional short phone number, so we have two phone numbers in our SIM, the normal one and the short one.
Happens that we use the short number to call ourserlves in the group (we could also use the normal number, but that'd be charged in my invoice as a normal call), but the normal phone number is always shown in our phones as incoming number when receiving a call from the group or outside, and that's how it is saved in call log.
So, in my contacts list, each contact has the two numbers added (I've set the normal phone number as cell phone number, and the short number as work phone).
Now the problem, the way smartdialer in WinMo5 and later work is to show the last call (made/missed/received) of every contact, then contacts list (if contact not already shown before), and after receiving a call from the group in my case the normal number is shown, and there's no way to use the short number to reply, unless I take the long path and go to contacts list and choose the contact and number manually; usually I'm in a hurry and just forget and call the contact using smartdialing and happens that the normal number is dialed.
I had no problem using smardialing with WinMo2003 as there was an option to choose a default number when there were multiples numbers on a contact, so, no matter what number a contact used to call me, when using smartdialing the default number was always chosen, I see no equivalent in WinMo5 or later.
Now, is there a way to replicate that behavior from WinMo2003? (registry/patch/etc.), thanks for taking the time to read.
P.D. the same can be said when we have multiples numbers in a contact (work/home/etc.) and receive calls from some of them but just want to reply to just one of them.
Hi,
Since with Android you have a choice for your calls to go thru Google Voice (totally - only international or not at all) I was wondering how it works with AT&T.
If you call another AT&T cell phone it doesn't count in your minutes plan but what if you go trhu Google Voice? Is that consider like a landline to a cell phone? Or AT&T "sees" that you are using a AT&T cell and count the time has cell to cell ?
I hope I was clear in my explanation
I honestly don't know.
This has been discussed before on AT&T's forums.
The question on those forums were posed as: " If I use Google Voice and add that phone number to my "A-List" could I technically get unlimited calls to anyone?"
I'm pretty sure the answer was no. And therefore, I don't think AT&T sees the Google Voice number as anything but a forwarded call.
So if the calls are forwarded, you pay according to where it is forwarded.
Example: All of these go THROUGH Google Voice:
I call another AT&T cell from my AT&T cell. Same network = FREE M2M
I call a landline from my AT&T cell, no M2M, pay for call
This is also equal for when someone dials your Google Voice number.
It does leave questions on how international call are worked out. But I think that is on Google's end, not AT&T's
mymansionisabox said:
I honestly don't know.
This has been discussed before on AT&T's forums.
The question on those forums were posed as: " If I use Google Voice and add that phone number to my "A-List" could I technically get unlimited calls to anyone?"
I'm pretty sure the answer was no. And therefore, I don't think AT&T sees the Google Voice number as anything but a forwarded call.
So if the calls are forwarded, you pay according to where it is forwarded.
Example: All of these go THROUGH Google Voice:
I call another AT&T cell from my AT&T cell. Same network = FREE M2M
I call a landline from my AT&T cell, no M2M, pay for call
This is also equal for when someone dials your Google Voice number.
It does leave questions on how international call are worked out. But I think that is on Google's end, not AT&T's
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I am not sure that is correct, because when you place a google voice call, gv is actually calling you and then calling the other party and joining the calls. So for international you have a incoming local call and you get to pay GV low rates. I have a PBX at home that uses free incoming minutes and therefore with GV free unlimited calling.
Since we have android the callback is in the background, unless you have the update that allows you to call a GV number with a access code assigned to each contact so you don't have to wait for the callback and have a much faster connection.
just checked my usage... bad news...
making calls through GV counts against your minutes... each of my GV calls is going to a GV number and then going to the party i called (even though they're on AT&T as well)...
so, if you're calling an AT&T subscriber, just use your normal dialer... if you're calling any other carrier subscribers (or landlines) use either, depending on what number you want shown on potential caller ID's
just place the call through the GV web app then.
The way to get the free unlimited calls is to go into GV settings and have all calls from GV display on your phone as the GV number. You then give out the GV number as your main number, all incoming calls hit your phone and the number they came from is GV.
Also, when you make out outbound calls, you use GV to set up the call - it rings your cell and comes from your GV number, then connects to whoever you call.
If the GV number is one in your circle, or faves, or whatever ATT calls it, then all are free - but of course you lose caller id on incoming calls.
I have a Sprint data card that I use Skype with. A one and a half hour call through Skype only uses 25MB. Sprint is not able to "see" that I am using VoIP because Skype encrypts the data. This way I make somewhat free calls and its real cheap considering the data from my alloted 5gb. I am anxiously waiting for Skype to start working on ATT Smartphones. I did wonder how GV would work but I'd prefer Skype and use my Skypeout number.
alphadog00 said:
The way to get the free unlimited calls is to go into GV settings and have all calls from GV display on your phone as the GV number. You then give out the GV number as your main number, all incoming calls hit your phone and the number they came from is GV.
Also, when you make out outbound calls, you use GV to set up the call - it rings your cell and comes from your GV number, then connects to whoever you call.
If the GV number is one in your circle, or faves, or whatever ATT calls it, then all are free - but of course you lose caller id on incoming calls.
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Exactly, this also give you the option to press "4" during the call and record the call at GV!
kyphur said:
Exactly, this also give you the option to press "4" during the call and record the call at GV!
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Thanks for the press 4 trick.. i had no idea.
alphadog00 said:
The way to get the free unlimited calls is to go into GV settings and have all calls from GV display on your phone as the GV number. You then give out the GV number as your main number, all incoming calls hit your phone and the number they came from is GV.
Also, when you make out outbound calls, you use GV to set up the call - it rings your cell and comes from your GV number, then connects to whoever you call.
If the GV number is one in your circle, or faves, or whatever ATT calls it, then all are free - but of course you lose caller id on incoming calls.
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Yeah that is the best way to do it if you want to do a regular voice call. I didn't know ATT had the fav option!
Also what I do is use freepbx at home in a VM with a GV setup so I can make free VOIP calls to anyone in the US. I have voip phone at home and voip software on my phone. I still use GV for voicemail.
In this case i use SIPDROID.
AT&T added a fav option for higher dollar plans. I am not sure what they call it, but they did it keep up with VZW and TMo
at&t's version is called A-List. IIRC, you need to be on a $60 monthly or higher plan. You get to list 10 numbers on your account (not per line) and all in/out calls to those 10 numbers are treated as m2m...
I love cellphones. I often want to use one phone or another on a particular day, but I don't want to have to switch SIM cards each time.
Apparently it is not possible to get more than one SIM card with the same number, which would fix my problem.
Is there a way to do this: Have one cellphone with my public cellphone number sit in a charger, always on, routing all my calls and messages to my other phones?
These are the features I'm looking for:
Reliability (always get each call)
Good call quality
Ability to route MMS messages
All calls and messages appear to be from my public number, not the numbers on the phones I'm actually holding
I've tried a couple solutions in the past, like Google Voice (won't do MMS), Phoneleash (wasn't that reliable).
The "public" cellphone with my main number can be any OS, rooted/jailbroken or not.
Thanks for any help!
1. How can I receive calls and make calls on my local number while international? When I leave the states and I'm working in a foreign country, when someone calls me on my normal cell phone number, I want it to ring on my cellphone no matter where in the world I am. It does not need to go through the PSTN where I located, but I would need to be able to return calls to US destinations, which would require going through the PSTN for US destination calls, without having it cost an arm and a leg.
2. Random thoughts I have are call forwarding from the local number to..., a Skype $60/yr. phone number, SIP somehow, calls made by MagicJack to the US or Canada are free. MagicJack to MagicJack calls are free no matter where you are, etc. Maybe to return calls, one of the dial-a-number first plans, which are as low as 4 cents a minute, etc. I'm trying to stitch together anything that be free or inexpensive. I'm interested in your thoughts.
3. Unrelated question: Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Signal app on our phones simply initializes a session with Whisper System's Servers across the Internet. Your phone number is simply a handle so when Signal users call each other, Signal knows which handles to pair up for their peer-to-peer session. Because it is done across the Internet, there is no concept of PSTN countries, area codes, etc., and where either user is located at the moment is irrelevant as long as they both have a data connection of some kind, it doesn't change how they dial, and the cost of the call ranges from free Wi-Fi, up to the cost of the small amount of cellular bandwidth consumed by the calls. Moreover, when you change SIMs and thus your phone's telephone number, the Signal telephone number remains the number that you initially set up Signal on.
Is there a way to change the outgoing caller ID on my cellphone to my business number?
The reason I am asking is because I have a VoIP-based business phone system (we host it ourselves) and my extension forwards to my cell phone when I am not in the office. It would be nice to be able to call people back from my cellphone and have it show my business number so that customers don’t inadvertently wind up with my cellphone number.
Right now I call back into our phone system and then place an outgoing call from there. But that means I cannot simply call using the dialer app and it’s difficult to do via the Bluetooth in my car because the second number (the customer’s number) as to be manually entered on the phone. It would be a lot nicer if Bell Mobility (or any carrier) could just replace my cell phone number with our business number.
Ideally I could do this for all of our technicians (who have company cell phones) so that their cellphones just becomes another extension on the system.
The Fish
They can replace your number, port it. Outside of that nothing you can do because they don't know what a business call is and what a personal call is to try and switch back and forth between your CID.
What we would do on FreePBX is create a account for the cellphone, have the boss use a SIP app on his phone, and then set the outbound CID for the account, that way when your calling someone back you just dial through the SIP app and select the outbound he wants (was running 4 companies at once and just had to use a prefix to set the ID he wanted) vs calling in and having to do a bunch of extra steps. Only thing is setting up policy for his phone to connect. I had a web site that they could authenticate through an then would add that to iptables so that they could connect since your IP will probably change occasionally, check out Dynamic Good Guys
There's really no easy way to go about it and it's all personal preference, and I know what you mean about people getting your cell number. I did on-site business and customer repairs and second someone gets your number it's calls all hours of the night, where if they used business number after-hours ivr would have caught it and left me alone.