What's going on gang...
I just got a blackjack II through AT&T. I read online that it had built in GPS. However, when I go to telenav, it asks me to input a starting address?? Why would it do that if it could read where I am. lol
Any input, suggestions?
Try google maps, and see if it does the same thing...
For other things than Telenav you might have to unlock the GPS feature if you haven't already.
http://www.modaco.com/content/Smartphone-Standard-News/262074/Samsung-Blackjack-II-GPS-ACTIVATED/
Err, the GPS is NOT locked. It should work out of the box.
If your GPS is not working, you will need to keep hard resetting your device until it does. I have tested this using Googe Maps, and the GPS works without installing the Modaco Hack.
The ONLY reasons you need to install any GPS hacks are if you use an application that you know requires a COM port. I cannot think of any such programs off the top of my head, but Google Maps, Windows Live Search, and Garmin Mobile XT all work flawlessly without the hack.
On the Modaco boards, there is some discussion that you do not need to hard reset, and instead you may simply turn off the device and remove the battery for several minutes (I believe they said 10). I have not confirmed this, but a hard reset has always worked for me and many other users.
Google maps worked with the GPS, without having to configure anything. Kinda surprised actually. In telenav, theres an option that says get GPS Unlimited, but I have to call customer service. Maybe that'll get everything squared away
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Hey all, I picked up my Fuze yesterday at a local AT&T store, and I'm really happy with it with the exception of one thing: I can't get the GPS to work. I've downloaded Google Maps Mobile, installed it. I ran QuickGPS to download the latest satellite data, and Google Maps still just sits there and says "Seeking GPS Satellites (0)..."
Any ideas or any settings I need before this works?
SOLUTION:
If you've installed AT&T Navigator, uninstall it. Be sure to call 611 and make sure that you were not charged the GPS service charge on this month's cycle.
Either the HTC guy didn't know his stuff, or this just happens to work around the "Telenav-Only" Block.
I've successfully gotten repeated locks on Google Maps without the use of Telenav. It's not even installed. Here's the procedure to get a (relatively) fast GPS lock:
If you don't already have it, download Advanced Configuration Tool v3.3 (or newer) (see here: http://touchxperience.com/en/advanced-configuration-tool.html) (needs .Net Compact Framework 3.5. see here: http://www.modaco.com/content/windo...act-framework-3-5-without-upgrading-your-rom/).
In the Advanced Configuration Tool go to GPS. Make sure the subsettings are as follows: (the last one is 32KB if you were wondering)
Assisted GPS: Enabled
Log file: \windows\GPSLogFile.txt
Old log file: \windows\GPSLogFileBack.txt
Max. log file size: 32768
Next, download and install GPS Test 1.04 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=129672&d=1226619670)
Now, every time after a soft-reset (or each day) you want to use the GPS, perform the following actions:
Run QuickGPS and download new satellite info.
Run GPS Test (ensure that GPS settings are on COM4 and a baud rate of 38400).
GPS Test will give you a bar and a signal strength indicator for each satellite. The fix process can take a couple minutes, but just give it some time. Upon getting a 3D lock, it will display "GPS Running".
At this point, you can exit GPS Test and open up Google Maps, TomTom, Garmin, iGo, whatever map tool you use. The navigation app should get a quick (< 30 seconds) fix with anywhere from 7-10 satellites depending on location. It will continue to do this until a long duration of time has passed (I'm talking 5-10 hrs (haven't tested)) or until a Soft-Reset.
This procedure worked for me. I don't know if it'll work for everybody, but I think it's pretty reasonable, the wait time isn't too long for a GPS fix. Good luck and god speed, gentlemen. Let me know if this works for y'all or not.
m.carroll said:
Hey all, I picked up my Fuze yesterday at a local AT&T store, and I'm really happy with it with the exception of one thing: I can't get the GPS to work. I've downloaded Google Maps Mobile, installed it. I ran QuickGPS to download the latest sattelite data, and Google Maps still just sits there and says "Seeking GPS Satellites (0)..."
Any ideas or any settings I need before this works?
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Mine does too - I think you may want to check out the numerous GPS threads on here on how people corrected theirs. I have been busy doing other stuff to worry about the GPS, so I haven't tried any of their advice, but there are Tons of threads on the GPS issue.
i'll look into it, although i didnt think it was the same issue...
m.carroll said:
Hey all, I picked up my Fuze yesterday at a local AT&T store, and I'm really happy with it with the exception of one thing: I can't get the GPS to work. I've downloaded Google Maps Mobile, installed it. I ran QuickGPS to download the latest sattelite data, and Google Maps still just sits there and says "Seeking GPS Satellites (0)..."
Any ideas or any settings I need before this works?
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Mine works, but so far only at home sitting in an east-facing window. Have you tried calling HTC Support? I called about another matter and got an answer right away. The US number is: 866-449-8358.
Let us know how you make out if you call!
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i'll look into it, although i didnt think it was the same issue...
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Most people are just complaining about lag, but there are a few posts about people having trouble getting a fix. It looks like tomtom and the gps tool are trying, but they just won't get a fix. I even stood outside in the cold for 30 minutes, and it never would work. I made all the changes with advanced config and also the manual registry changes... pretty much every suggestion I've found in all the other threads, but nothing works. If I happen to come across a solution, I'll definitely pass it on... but I'm less than optimistic at this point.
I had the same issue - I grabbed the Diamond TomTom cab (from diamond forum - no maps needed) and was able to see the progress of locking in the satelites.. It took about 10 minutes of the phone sitting outside to get a lock for GPS. Now that it has locked once (I have rebooted several times btw) it seems to pick up the lock a lot faster.
And.. I have not tweaked my GPS settings and a-gps is still enabled.
The GPS is a little shotty if you ask me.. I'm sure something will be changed in software down the road to speed up getting a lock.
I have the same issue
Google maps just keeps timing out
google maps wont work for me
Not sure if this will help or not, but I had mucked with my GPS com port settings (under Settings, GPS Settings).
For Programs: Com4
For Hardware: (None)
Baud Rate 4800
For Access: Manage GPS automatically (recommended) --- Is checked.
In Google Maps, I have the "Managed by Windows" radio button selected.
Doing that allowed me to pull up the satellites in about 10 mins the first time, then a lot more quickly after that.
I have no idea what that actually did, but it made GPS work in google maps for me.
I think it would be a good idea to get a program that shows you GPS lock status, so you can see which satellites are detected and their signal strength. Other than that, just leave the phone outside with a clear view of the sky for a little while and see what happens.
m.carroll said:
Hey all, I picked up my Fuze yesterday at a local AT&T store, and I'm really happy with it with the exception of one thing: I can't get the GPS to work. I've downloaded Google Maps Mobile, installed it. I ran QuickGPS to download the latest sattelite data, and Google Maps still just sits there and says "Seeking GPS Satellites (0)..."
Any ideas or any settings I need before this works?
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I had the same problem at work. I think GPS will work outside. Mine started working with Google Map and Live Search when I was driving.
If that still doesn't work, try install at&t navigator. Maybe it will unlock the GPS.
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Hi all I spoke with HTC and you need to download and enable Telenav to activate the GPS. It did not ask me to sign up there is basic turn by turn once it is downloaded and gives you the option to upgrade. Once telenav was installed google maps found satelites within 30 seconds. hope this helps
Ah, that explains why it worked for me -- when I bought my Fuze, I let the salesman sign me up for the 30-day free trial of Telenav. I expect to cancel it, but I was curious to see what it was like.
Same worked for me. I tried the 30 day free trial and now the GPS works. TeleNav doesn't even seem that bad since it checks traffic for you...
No GPS lagging behind reporting your position like the TP?
I have not seen any lag. it is very quick
so basically telenav unlocks the gps and then after one use, it unlocks the gps for use with tomtom or garmin?
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so basically telenav unlocks the gps and then after one use, it unlocks the gps for use with tomtom or garmin?
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Man this seems kind of shady on At&ts part...
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Man this seems kind of shady on At&ts part...
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Seriously. Didn't you ask why?. Or question this since its an apparant marketing ploy. I heard the same for tomtom. It took my gps a while to to get the first time but after then it locked significantly faster.
i agree, it is shady, but in the end, it works. i got a perfect signal (locked into 6 satellites) with google maps, almost instantly (after connecting once with telenav).
its smart on at&t's part, but now i'm going to look at the cab and see if i can find what makes it work!
can anyone upload the telenav app so i can unlock my gps. i dont have the stock rom anymore(changed to natf rom) and telenav isnt on there.
Ok, maybe you guys can help here. I have quite a bit of experience with Windows Mobile phones (had an 8525, upgraded to a custom ROM, unlocked SIM/CID, etc), so that's what level of experience you're working with.
Now, I just picked up the Fuze, very cool phone! However, I'm wondering the following about GPS:
1. Is it available in this phone (i.e. AT&T didn't disable it).
2. I want to do GPS. I don't have a data plan. I DO have wi-fi. I DON'T want to be charged money. Is this possible?
Thanks in advance! The questions were probably asked elsewhere, but I looked around a bit and everything else looked way above these questions, which hopefully are pretty simple to answer...
i have the same question...
I know the Fuze has GPS, and i followed the steps on THIS link, but it doesnt seem to work, the GPS Test, never seems to finish looking for satelites, and when i go to Google Maps, it keeps "seeking GPS satelites"
GPS is available on the Fuze and it's independent of any data plan. All you need is some program that can access the GPS.
However, getting the GPS to work seems to be flakey at best. I tested mine briefly but wasn't able to get a signal lock. Need to do some more testing.
The GPS on my Fuze works great. First you should run Quick GPS and it will use the wifi to download the current GPS satellite locations. Then you should use google maps, you have to goto google maps menu and say 'use gps' then just go stand outside somewhere where theres no much tree coverage and wait for awhile (for the first time, now that I've done it once the GPS starts working in 10 seconds or so) Then you will start to pick up the gps satellites. I'm not sure how great it will be without a data plan... it uses the data plan to download the map info. Hopefully your wifi works out side.
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The GPS on my Fuze works great. First you should run Quick GPS and it will use the wifi to download the current GPS satellite locations. Then you should use google maps, you have to goto google maps menu and say 'use gps' then just go stand outside somewhere where theres no much tree coverage and wait for awhile (for the first time, now that I've done it once the GPS starts working in 10 seconds or so) Then you will start to pick up the gps satellites. I'm not sure how great it will be without a data plan... it uses the data plan to download the map info. Hopefully your wifi works out side.
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What about using something like Garmin or TomTom's software? Would that work without a data plan, and without the need for wi-fi?
I use Garmin without a data plan and it works great. I installed it first thing after I got my GPS and didn't do anything to get it to work. The GPS on my FUZE worked out of the box like it should.
I'm using Google Maps without a data connection (don't have one and don't want one). I've installed GPS Test to activate the GPS chip. When I turn wifi off, Google Maps starts acting flakey.
A few questions:
Does the Google maps .cab actually load the map detail to my device?
Here's my big question:
Is is possible for me to drive around and watch my progress with just the GPS chip and Google Maps (or Window Live Search)? If not, the GPS seems useless to me, correct?
Thanks
Both programs require data connection for use. If you want gps software that does not require data connection try tom tom for pocket pc.
So I need to spend $100 more to make any use of the GPS while on the road? Is there anything it's useful for without a data plan or additional software?
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So I need to spend $100 more to make any use of the GPS while on the road? Is there anything it's useful for without a data plan or additional software?
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Considering that there is no software on the world that fulfills your wishes regarding GPS I'd say that yes, there is nothing useful without a data plan or aditional software.
In hungary for example HTC TP is sold together with IGO8. If you'd get one of those TP's then yes, you would have had a TP which did not require anything to work as you want it.
At least yours gets signal. I just got a FUZE yesterday and TomTom 6 wont grab freakin signal... Nor will LIVE Maps... It sucks!
Have you installed GPS test? This piece of software seems to activate the GPS chip in your phone. I would be curious to know if TomTom works after running this.
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Have you installed GPS test? This piece of software seems to activate the GPS chip in your phone. I would be curious to know if TomTom works after running this.
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I just posted this thread... I found a tool that seemed to do just that...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=461786
Is that the one you are refering to?
Yep, that's the one, GPSTest. It was all I needed to activate my chip.
Are you saying I could install TomTom 6 now and be able to do what I originally wanted to do from my first post?
Thats what im doing now.... gunna test it later today...
Do you have a link for the TomTom product you are using?
It's just TomTom Navigator 6.... I bought it a while back for my Tilt...
Nah, forget it. If I have to shell out $100+ more to load up and slow down my fuze, I'm not interested. Might as well buy an actual TomTom or Garmin device with better functionality for less. Very disappointing that the GPS chip seems to be absolutely useless to me...
There are already other GPS threads, TomTom, Igo, Google Maps, Windows Maps, etc threads. Not need for this one. Thread closed. Please don't open redundant threads.
Ive noticed that some people when have mentioned using Quick gps to improve their gps. One the telus version there is no quick gps could someone either post or let me know where to get a version that would work well with the telus tp2
Yes, please!
try here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550973
I don't see it there
i also dont see it there.
Enjoy. Googled and found within a 5min
I tried all sorts of methods and cabs and none worked.
Finally success with the following
Hard reset
Install trial 30 day Telus navigator (gps works)
Install Google Maps 4.1 (gps works - fast location of satellites)
I am planning to cancel the Telus Navigator service. I don't know if that means I will actually have to uninstall it on the phone. If not then hopefully Google Maps will continue working.
If you would like to do the above, try it without a hard reset first. It might work without one (if not redo with the hard reset)
This worked for telus after many other trials. It might with with other carriers paid for GPS service. The paid for services seem to make all sorts of settings adjustments on the phone.
For what it's worth, my Telus TP2 works just fine with agps and gps in the sky. I use Google Maps and TomTom 7 for GPS. Google Maps gets a location quick with agps, and will usually within 2 minutes lock a real GPS signal. TomTom7 takes a few mins to lock usually too depending on the weather.
I've not done anything fancy to my phone either. Just running Medium Hill Titanium ROM.
Hi all, I am experiencing a bit of a strange problem that I have only seen duplicated here http://forums.verizon.com/t5/PDA-Sm...6;jsessionid=CA9AC87365188A46401DEAC053629BFF
My issue is that no matter what I try (including exchanging my phone for another new tp2) I can not get my gps to acquire satellite locks in bing or google maps. My location is on, my gps settings are all correct, always use quick gps and still nothing. The best I ever got was using gps viewer I managed to "see" up to 6 satellites at a time but never got a location or a lock...usually it sees 1-3 at a time and they fade in and out quickly. Still google maps has never shown anything but (0) satellites....UNTIL! I found the link above and called tech support. He informed me that because I was a prior alltel customer that I could not activate vz navigator (even for testing purposes) and I would have to switch my plan to allow this.
After reading the above forum link I called BS and proceeded to install VZ navigator and activate the free 1 day trial without issue. VOILA! I get an instant gps lock..full navigation (not just a-gps) and I can even turn off vz navigator and all of my 3rd party apps receive the same reception and all get locks near instantly.
I know some of you geniuses out there can figure out what and why this is happening. Also I would like to note that although I never ran vz navigator on them, I did reflash to 2 different roms and had no luck with gps lock either.
Here is my basic info in case it is relevant.
Rom version 1.18.605.12
Date 8/15/09
Radio 1.88.07WV
PRL 40059
I refuse to believe that I will have to pay for something that should be unlocked and free OR that if I want to use a different program that I will have to start and run VZ nav first.
Have you used the QuickGPS tool provided by verizon? I used this and the GPS then worked instantly. I never used VZ navigator
Yes. As I stated in my first post, I used quickgps each time with no luck. I again today tried before my trial ran out and vz navigator is the key to my gps receiving a signal.
I am having this same issue. I stood out in a blizzard today for 15mins to try and get a signal with no luck. Although I have not tried VZ nav to try and get a signal...I cant stand VZ nav anyways...
I'm not sure if I should be puzzled, or happy?...but suddenly my gps works!
After my vz nav demo ran out I noticed that the gps went right back to the same broken state, and was that way for a couple days until I finally just gave up playing with it, until yesterday when a co-worker asked if I could get directions to a supply house we were driving toward... I said "well yes, and no" so I fired up google maps and before the map loaded I saw "gps active" then "(8)" and it tracked me in less than 4 sec. Since then my gps has locked every time with every program, even inside my house.
Trust me im glad that everything is working now, but my question is... why? Very random, and I hope it doesnt stop working again, even though I powered it off several times just to make sure.
Sometimes there is no answer as to why. Could just be a glitch. I had a very similar problem in that Remote Desktop wouldn't work unless I had Internet Explorer loaded in the background. Sounds similar to your problem but with different hardware/software. Anyway the problem went away when I flashed my phone to MightyROM. Hope this helped!