Prob. a noob question, but I have searched this and other forums with no definitive answer. If anyone would know, I figured users of this forums would.
Verizon reps usually know less that I do about WinMo.
I have just ordered a TP2 and am new to WimMo. Had a BB storm, but liked the flexibility and customizations of WM and the keyboard.
I ordered the 29.99 data plan. Please tell me if the following is possible. I want to sync to my home computer outlook calendar and contacts -- can do wired sync every day or two as I will need to charge anyway. I can then do home email through a POP server on the basic data plan.
I also have a work exchange server (2003 I think). Would like to get email wirelessly from work, but likely would not sync calendar and contacts. Question is -- can I wirelessly sync with exchange on the 29.99 data plan, or will I need to use the OWA client? If I use OWA, what will sync wirelessly?
Last question -- what would the 44.99 data plan offer? Particularly if there third party apps I might add to help anyway?
Many thanks for your help. This is my first post but I am sure to be here often and pledge to support your work if I end up flashing a cooked ROM, etc.
I will pass along the little that I know
You can only have one exchange server account. So if you use that for your work e-mail, your other synch's must be POP or whatever.
I set up gmail, and also google calendar and contacts. The latter two used exchange. Then I could not set up work e-mail.
I started up and set up work email, work calender and work contacts (and tasks). Then set up just Gmail which is not exchange. Works like a charm. I had to standardize on one procduct (office at work) for contacts, calender and tasks because exchange was the only way to get work email.
Hope that helps.
Also, I never understood the two data plans. The cheaper seems to do it all, I think the more expensive plan is blackberry related.
The $45 data plan allows you to sync with exchange using MAPI. This gives you push email. If all you want is to get your mail from your exchange server, then you can use POP3 or IMAP on the cheaper internet connection. These will not give calendar/contacts. Hopefully these are turned on at work. I can't see the extra $15 being appropriate, but unfortunately I pay it for my exchange 2007.
MetalHd said:
The $45 data plan allows you to sync with exchange using MAPI. This gives you push email. If all you want is to get your mail from your exchange server, then you can use POP3 or IMAP on the cheaper internet connection. These will not give calendar/contacts. Hopefully these are turned on at work. I can't see the extra $15 being appropriate, but unfortunately I pay it for my exchange 2007.
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Actually not true. You can still get full exchange/push support on the $30 plan. From what I was told, $45 is for synching to your PC.
I actually wonder if this is something left over from the Black Berry plans where if you need Exchange support, you pay $45. But they do get push on all accounts though.
MetalHd said:
The $45 data plan allows you to sync with exchange using MAPI. This gives you push email. If all you want is to get your mail from your exchange server, then you can use POP3 or IMAP on the cheaper internet connection. These will not give calendar/contacts. Hopefully these are turned on at work. I can't see the extra $15 being appropriate, but unfortunately I pay it for my exchange 2007.
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WRONG
Your $30 will plan will work for push email.. I'm using it with gmail, and it works fine.. The $45 plan "allows" you to use verizons retarded sync program and some other things maybe.. Which requires you to keep a computer on, running vzs software.. VZ sync software sucks.. Oh, and you're wasting $15, call vz and switch to the cheaper plan
I have the $29 plan.
I have push email with my work exchange server.
I activesync/charge to my home PC.
I have a scheduled download from two other POP accounts.
worwig said:
I have the $29 plan.
I have push email with my work exchange server.
I activesync/charge to my home PC.
I have a scheduled download from two other POP accounts.
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Can you please list your settings to get get push mail to work? For example with gmail. I can't get gmail to push (or download attachments). All other pop accounts are working fine.
PS. i have TP2 vzw stock rom.
Verizon doesnt do a good job of clarifying their data plans. they want to nickel and dime us out of so much,they list charges for almost every specific feature a phone has and thats pitiful
I use the push/exchange on my phone for my campus email that uses exchange. I have the 29.99 data plan as well. I also use Internet Sharing on my phone ALL THE TIME...and i heard your supposed to have a tethering plan with 5GB and thats non sense. and when u call and talk to the reps they sound contradicting about smartphone data plans and the exchange thing. i just use what works....i havent had an overages so im keeping everything 29.99 until they decide to raise their prices again
Verizon Wireless, ooohh don't get me started with them :nono:
Speaking of data plans, have you guys seen the new ridiculously priced pre-paid data plans from Vzw?
PrePaid Daily broadband - 75MB @ $15
PrePaid Weekly - 200 MB @ $30
PrePaid Monthly - 500 MB @ $50
OMG man, what a RIP! Verizon Wireless - We never stop working AGAINST you!
Required Data Plan????
I currently am using a PPC 6800 when I was on Alltel and now Verizon. I went through about 3 store reps all telling me I HAD to get a data plan with the phone until I finally found someone who knew what they were talking about. I want to upgrade to the TP2. I use my phone to sync with Outlook and the WM applications and don't do any on line stuff. I currently have voice only plan and want to keep it that way. The Verizon rep I talked to said I had to have a data plan and that the phone would not work at all if I didn't. Are they blowing smoke up my skirt or is that the real skinny?
All I am interested in is using it for a voice phone and the occasional text message. My 6800 everytime I reset it I go into Connections and delete the Alltel wireless connection. Will the TP2 work without a data plan as a phone?
Green Hornut said:
I currently am using a PPC 6800 when I was on Alltel and now Verizon. I went through about 3 store reps all telling me I HAD to get a data plan with the phone until I finally found someone who knew what they were talking about. I want to upgrade to the TP2. I use my phone to sync with Outlook and the WM applications and don't do any on line stuff. I currently have voice only plan and want to keep it that way. The Verizon rep I talked to said I had to have a data plan and that the phone would not work at all if I didn't. Are they blowing smoke up my skirt or is that the real skinny?
All I am interested in is using it for a voice phone and the occasional text message. My 6800 everytime I reset it I go into Connections and delete the Alltel wireless connection. Will the TP2 work without a data plan as a phone?
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Any PDA phone that was released as of Nov. 14th 2008 does require the data plans to activate. Convinient timeng with the release of the Touch Pro. I have heard stories of people getting a waranty exchange from the xv6800 without data plans to the TP and some reps working around not adding the data plans. But most Reps will try and force you to get data even on a XV6800. All you have to do is tell them you want the pay per use feature or have them block national access. However blocking national access does turn off the ability to recieve MMS.
I tell my customers to get XV6800's when they just want the sync part of the phone for calander and non data functions.
Ive been using pingchat with my friends for texting and it works great so i really dont have a need to pay for texting anymore. Is it possible that if I cancel my texting package through ATT I can set my phone not to receive them if anyone does try to text me? I dont want to be charged for messaging period and want to make sure no one tries to send me one accidentally.
When you cancel your texting plan, ask the rep to put a text message block on your account. This is the only way to aviod any accidental text message charges. There is no way to do so on your phone.
Then, you can also setup a Google Voice account on your phone and get free text messages and visual voice mails through Google Voice (using data connection).
awesome! I knew there was a way to get texting blocked but wasnt sure who had to do it. Ive setup my google voice account and love it!
Greetings fellow windows phone users,
I have just bought a new windows phone mango device (HTC Titan), and wanted to know if there is any app that uses data for sending and receiving sms.
I am on AT&T and do not have a sms plan, and had to block my incoming and outgoing sms, because my jerk friends couldnt stop increasing my bill by sending me junk sms.
But I do like to have sms chats with my cousins and relatives from time to time.
Does anyone know of an app that uses data plan for sending and RECEIVING free sms? I have tried a couple of apps that uses google voice for doing that, but both were just ONE SIDED i.e. I can send sms to others, but when they REPLY, nothing happens. Has anyone used "GoVoice" before for sending and receiving sms? Am I doing something wrong?
I have heard about jaxtr sms service, but unfortunately they dont have an app for windows mobile
Any suggestions, anyone?
Thanks
Try this: http://www.windowsphone.com/pl-PL/apps/08d825c6-8828-43bb-ba72-6f410c5caaf5
that doesnt work in the US.
Plus I dont understand a word it says
Is there an option to change the language to English?
PO15ON said:
Greetings fellow windows phone users,
I have just bought a new windows phone mango device (HTC Titan), and wanted to know if there is any app that uses data for sending and receiving sms.
I am on AT&T and do not have a sms plan, and had to block my incoming and outgoing sms, because my jerk friends couldnt stop increasing my bill by sending me junk sms.
But I do like to have sms chats with my cousins and relatives from time to time.
Does anyone know of an app that uses data plan for sending and receiving free sms? I have tried a couple of apps that uses google voice for doing that, but both were just one sided i.e. I can send sms to others, but when they reply, nothing happens. Has anyone used "GoVoice" before for sending and receiving sms? Am I doing something wrong?
I have heard about jaxtr sms service, but unfortunately they dont have an app for windows mobile
Any suggestions, anyone?
Thanks
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If you are out of contract with AT&T, tried their pre-pay Go Phone program: $50 for unlimited talk & text. If not, here is a work around that I have used which will give you "free" text.
Here is my work around. I use Google Voice. Set Google Voice to send text to your Hotmail account that you associated with your phone. When someone text to your Google Voice number, it INSTANTLY goes to your Hotmail. Your Windows Phone will receive a notification in the email live tile. You tap on the email tile to read the text and then reply by email. When you reply to that mail on your phone, your recipient will receive a TEXT reply. Voila! Free text. The only drawback is your text number is the Google Voice number, not your phone number.
You can try freesme... http://www.freesmee.com/
otnos said:
If you are out of contract with AT&T, tried their pre-pay Go Phone program: $50 for unlimited talk & text. If not, here is a work around that I have used which will give you "free" text.
Here is my work around. I use Google Voice. Set Google Voice to send text to your Hotmail account that you associated with your phone. When someone text to your Google Voice number, it INSTANTLY goes to your Hotmail. Your Windows Phone will receive a notification in the email live tile. You tap on the email tile to read the text and then reply by email. When you reply to that mail on your phone, your recipient will receive a TEXT reply. Voila! Free text. The only drawback is your text number is the Google Voice number, not your phone number.
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Hey, thanks for replying. This is a great idea. I dont mind having a different texting number, and this way its actually easy for me, as I can choose who gets it. Actually, I just bought the Titan, so my contract with AT&T just began. Go-Phone is out of question.
I tried looking into it, but couldnt find the settings for texting in my google voice account. Would you mind telling me the steps involved in setting up the account.
In my google voice settings, I only have the option tabs of Phone, Voicemail, Groups, Voicemail Widgets and Billing. Which of these tabs is supposed to have the texting option?
Do I have to activate google voicemail on my cell for this to work, because I am pretty satisfied with the AT&T voicemail service atm.
Thanks
I find it odd that AT&T doesn't let you block SMS from phone numbers. I can do it with Verizon...
Another way you can try is to use AOL Instant Messenger. If you add a contact with "+18145551234" (814 is the example area code I am using) and then unblock them, you can add any SMS number world wide as far as I know, and it doesn't cost a thing. I use it to text my mom from my Grandmothers "dead zone" all of the time.
You can look here at AT&T's site for more info on simply blocking the SMS numbers in question.
Hey there,
Thanks for replying. I know AT&T can block sms coming from a spam number, but in my case I am talking about my friends. I am a very friendly person (I sometimes regret that) and so I have large friend circles (i mean like really huge numbers). And the thing is that this started just as a joke for them. One person told another that I am being charged for sms, and he after doing one sms to me, told another person, and the process repeats. Almost all of my friends did just 2 or less sms to me, the bill on my side was big. So instead of asking AT&T to stop sms from like hundred different numbers, I blocked all incoming and outgoing sms.
Can you elaborate on using AOL instant messenger. I am sorry for asking this, but am new to this Windows Phone and English isnt my first language, so its a little difficult for me to understand.
Thanks
PO15ON said:
Greetings fellow windows phone users,
I have just bought a new windows phone mango device (HTC Titan), and wanted to know if there is any app that uses data for sending and receiving sms.
I am on AT&T and do not have a sms plan, and had to block my incoming and outgoing sms, because my jerk friends couldnt stop increasing my bill by sending me junk sms.
But I do like to have sms chats with my cousins and relatives from time to time.
Does anyone know of an app that uses data plan for sending and RECEIVING free sms? I have tried a couple of apps that uses google voice for doing that, but both were just ONE SIDED i.e. I can send sms to others, but when they REPLY, nothing happens. Has anyone used "GoVoice" before for sending and receiving sms? Am I doing something wrong?
I have heard about jaxtr sms service, but unfortunately they dont have an app for windows mobile
Any suggestions, anyone?
Thanks
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Stay tuned with me on :
http://www.jaxtrsms.com
Windows Phone version is coming (according to them, and to the Windows icon)
otnos said:
Here is my work around. I use Google Voice. Set Google Voice to send text to your Hotmail account that you associated with your phone. When someone text to your Google Voice number, it INSTANTLY goes to your Hotmail. Your Windows Phone will receive a notification in the email live tile. You tap on the email tile to read the text and then reply by email. When you reply to that mail on your phone, your recipient will receive a TEXT reply. Voila! Free text. The only drawback is your text number is the Google Voice number, not your phone number.
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Great! It sounds very attractive.
I have no problem making an SMS application, but it will have to be a paid service. aka, you'll have to pay per msg.
PO15ON said:
Greetings fellow windows phone users,
I am on AT&T and do not have a sms plan, and had to block my incoming and outgoing sms, because my jerk friends couldnt stop increasing my bill by sending me junk sms.
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That's weird - I never heard of an operator to charge for incoming SMSs (only outgoing). It's logical that only outgoing calls and SMSs are supposed to be charged, because the incomming ones are already payed by the sender.. (of course, international roaming is a special case..)
About the actual question, in the last 10 years I saw most companies that offered free SMS sending (over Internet) dissapearing - probably it was not effective from a economic point of view, and also for 5 or 6cents a SMS, most people doesn't bother tosearch a free service anymore..
@acidhax
Can you make one application that uses Google voice services to send and receive sms? The app which I am using "GoVoice" is just one sided, that is I can send an sms to someone, but when they reply, I am not getting anything. Can you fix this and make an app that works in two way sms communication?
I do not mind if the whole conversation is in the application instead of the default messaging app. I also dont mind having a different number (my google voice number) for messaging.
Thanks
Solution found
Arghhhhhh,
Just found out, that if you get a new number, the texting option magically appears in your account.
With the options available, GoVoice app works wonders. Finally free sms.
Hurray!!!
If your friends have iPhones/Androids/Blackberries/WP7s you could get Whatsapp, but you'll need a data plan to use it. It's basically a free texting service, though after the first year you have to pay something like $2-3 dollars per year.
I have heard about it, but as far as I know, its more like a messenger. Other need to have it installed on their devices too for the messages to work. And they are not sms.
Anyways I found what I was looking for, free sms app (GoVoice), which uses google voice for two way communication with others via sms.
Thank you everyone for your valuable input.
PO15ON said:
Hey, thanks for replying. This is a great idea. I dont mind having a different texting number, and this way its actually easy for me, as I can choose who gets it. Actually, I just bought the Titan, so my contract with AT&T just began. Go-Phone is out of question.
I tried looking into it, but couldnt find the settings for texting in my google voice account. Would you mind telling me the steps involved in setting up the account.
In my google voice settings, I only have the option tabs of Phone, Voicemail, Groups, Voicemail Widgets and Billing. Which of these tabs is supposed to have the texting option?
Do I have to activate google voicemail on my cell for this to work, because I am pretty satisfied with the AT&T voicemail service atm.
Thanks
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Sorry for the late reply, I have been too busy to check back. I see that you have found a way by using an app. To clarify my work around, all you have to do is set your Google Voice account to forward all messages to your Hotmail account. This means that when someone text your Google Voice number, the text is forwarded to your Hotmail. If you keep wifi on in your phone, you will get a live tile notification saying that you have mail. Go into mail to read and reply. Your reply to the text messages will be received by the other person as a text messages. So there is no need for a third party app.