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Hi all
I`m pretty sure many ppl ran into this problem before me, so I hope someone will be kind and shed some light for me on this one
It seems to me that for some reason I cannot keep my contacts and other stuff on my Universal after deleting a AS relationship with my PC.
This is what I did:
Initially I sync my desktop PC to my Universal via active sync 4.5. (the synchronization includes: contacts, calendars, appointments, notes from outlook 2003)
So far so good the relationship created between the PC and the Uni fine and Now I have my contacts etc on my phone.
Now I decide I don`t wish to necessary break the relationship between the PC and the Uni, but I do not want to sync my contacts anymore.
On the AS i hit tools>options and try to remove the check from say the contacts. at that point AS welcomes me with this: "To proceed, AS must remove all Contacts on your PocketPC. Do you want to continue?" niiice.... so at this point if you say no nothing happens if you say yes guess what... all your synced contacts are gone... Now I want to keeeeeeeeeeep them.
If i try to delete the relationship from the AS, then next time I connect the Uni AS REMOVES everything that was used to set to sync without asking...[contacts,notes,calendar,tasks] I have to add that when you are deleting a relationship it does tell you that it will remove all this from the uni next time you connect it....
I tried this from my uni > active sync settings "delete" the PC from the list (aka remove the relationship) and it immediately removed all contacts etc..... even if i just try to stop the contacts from being syced with the PC it warns me that if I do this it`ll remove all contact from the uni..... ???
???
at this point I`m just sad about this because it`s not a bug certainly. Its just bad design IMO.
here are a few details about this show:
PC: MS Windows XP PRO SP2 with all updates as of now.
PPC: T-mobile MDA PRO running ROM:2.02.00 WWE -- thanks Jay...
AS: Active Sync 4.5.0 (build 5096)
Outlook: MS Outlook 2003 Standard with all the updates as of now.
Is that really possible that they actually thought this way of synchronization was a good idea???
I like to figure out a way that would allow me to keep all the data on the phone even after I deleted the AS synchronization relationship.

...going once....
Maybe not that many people got stuck with this then....
I`ll try a few things in the meantime....

WIZARD82. I have the same issue. Did you ever find a solution?

Wait a minute.. are you trying to let the PC be connected with ur Uni via AS but not sync anything? I tried doing that before... I think the trick is with Outlook since AS does not provide any other option. You have to like break the connection between AS and Outlook or something.. I'll play around it when I get home.
Edit:
Hey I got it... I tried it here at the office. Just delete the current relationship and create a new one without checking anything in the list of items to be sync'ed. You still get to keep all the data on both PC and PPC!
1. Make sure the PPC is unplugged.
2. On AS, go to File -> Delete Mobile Device and just say Yes to the question.. you won't lose anything (as far as I know since I still have all my contacts)
3. Plug in ur PPC.
4. Create a new relationship without checking any options on the list of items.
That's it! Hope this helps.

activesync support code : 1

My phone = HTC wizard (WM5)
I sync with my university's Exchange 2003 server.
OK, the other day i took three pics (100-150KB each) with my phone camera. I tried to email them to one of my hotmail accounts. I did this by clicking on the pics (in the Pictures & Video folders) and selecting "Send". Then It asked me to select an account and i choose "outlook" which i assume is the email i sync with exchange because the only other option was MMS.
Then i clicked on send/recieve and it synchronised with exchange etc, but then it said Attention Required and the emails had not been sent. I tried this many times but could not get the emails to be sent. When i connected my phone to the computer and tried it thru my computers activesync, it still didnt send the emails, giving me support code 1 error.
That support code isnt even listed with the others here.
http://www.pocketpcfaq.com/faqs/activesync/exchange_errors.php
i even tried changing my activesync settings to download full emails and full attachments (i.e. not only if attachment smaller than <insert number>KB.
in the end i gave up and deleted the emails. now when it connects with activesync i get no problems and no support code 1.
I am just wondering why it couldn't send a few simple emails with pics attached.
ALSO, since im making a thread anyway, my outlook.ost file is 0KB. Is that normal?

Similar problem with HTC Touch Diamond
Hello friends,
I am having similar problem with my Touch Diamond. A few of my contacts fail to synchronize. I get the error Support Code:1
Any help??

Have you tried duplicating this again at all? Like with just one pic.

Support Code 1
Hi people,
Hi had this ERROR when I was synchronizing all my stuff in my kaiser. I found the solution with my friend google and this forum:
Click Start > Run and type the following: Regsvr32.exe %Windir%\System32\ole32.dll
Click OK, Reboot your PC. Sync again.
After reregistering ole32.dll, you should scan all items on your mobile device for unsynced annotations. If there are, CHANGE the item on the mobile device and sync. This is the only way to keep all your changes made and sync them to your desktop PC.
Some of the items where having issues and that was the origin of "the support Code 1"

active sync support code:1 Alltel Touch Pro
Scan how, what do I do on the phone?
I'm getting a number of items that were recurring b'day entries
I found and deleted them on the PC, but I can't find them on the phone
to delete them. I'm still trying to setup the phone, so if needed, I can do a
cold reset. Alltel replaced a ppc6800 with the touch pro. *sigh* I miss
all the buttons. Anyway I do have good data in Outlook and a good PIMbackup
just before turning in the old phone. I tried the ole32.dll thing but no luck.
Can anyone suggest a button mapping program, the windows one only sees
the 'red' button as programmable? I'm also looking for a 'how-to' to use
SPB's P+ & Mobile shell instead of the touch3d thing. I have Resco Regedit
and Resco File Explorer.
Thanks

Activesync Support Code 1
I hope this is helpful to someone with Activesync problems.
I sync my AT&T Fuze with Outlook on my desktop using Activesync 4.5 on XP. Contacts, calendar, tasks, notes. My first sync just loaded up my Fuze from Outlook, based on existing data that was previously synced with 8525. Subsequent incremental syncs worked fine, until one day I started getting the infamous Support Code 1 along with a long list of Fuze updates that would not sync to Outlook. I was amazed at how little information there is on the web about these types of Activesync errors.
I finally figured it out. I had imported a new Outlook data file into Outlook, because I needed to convert it from Outlook format to Outlook Express format. After the conversion, I had left the second Outlook data file (mail, calendar, tasks) in Outlook, even though it was not being used. Apparently, the presence of this second Outlook data file was enough to confuse Activesync and prevent the syncing of new updates from my Fuze. After I deleted all traces of the data file from Outlook (and thus had only my single main data file), Activesync began working again, and the Support Code 1 did not occur. I realize that I am just describing symptoms, but since I can do what I need to do, I am not digging deeper. Perhaps there is a way to tell Activesync which Outlook data file to use, but I don't care.

change contact-pictures to 240x320 pixels
Make sure your contact-pictures do not exceed the 240x320 pixels format as larger pictures cannot be synced in outlook!

fuzzynco said:
Scan how, what do I do on the phone?
I'm getting a number of items that were recurring b'day entries
I found and deleted them on the PC, but I can't find them on the phone
to delete them. I'm still trying to setup the phone, so if needed, I can do a
cold reset. Alltel replaced a ppc6800 with the touch pro. *sigh* I miss
all the buttons. Anyway I do have good data in Outlook and a good PIMbackup
just before turning in the old phone. I tried the ole32.dll thing but no luck.
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How do you scan for offending items on the phone? I have this same issue with 25 birthdays and anniversaries on my phone. They don't show up in the calendar on the phone or in Outlook 2007, though. How do I find them?

XP & activesync v4.5 support code : 1
ibrubeer said:
How do you scan for offending items on the phone?
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Did you ever get or find a answer to this question? I'm getting this error with a recurring task that occurred in the past. And the support code 1 indicates the item is on the phone. But I can't find a way to view old tasks on the phone at all. I go to the referenced year/month and it's simply not there.
I've wiped the device, but my situation is complicated by syncing with Win7 at home with no issues and win xp at work. Why mobile device under Win7 pushes old tasks you can't view on the phone is it's own issue.

rhfritz said:
Did you ever get or find a answer to this question? I'm getting this error with a recurring task that occurred in the past. And the support code 1 indicates the item is on the phone. But I can't find a way to view old tasks on the phone at all. I go to the referenced year/month and it's simply not there.
I've wiped the device, but my situation is complicated by syncing with Win7 at home with no issues and win xp at work. Why mobile device under Win7 pushes old tasks you can't view on the phone is it's own issue.
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Wow! Time flies, and it didn't take long for my reminder to reply to this to get buried WAY at the bottom of my Inbox. Sorry for the delay. The way that I solved this problem was through Outlook. I sync with Outlook, and I believe that I went in and deleted them from there. I believe that if you go into the Calendar in Outlook, and select "Events" for the current view, you may find some strange looking events. Mine were events that started out with a couple of blank spaces. I believe they were birthdays/anniversaries that didn't have any names in them, only spaces. At any rate, you should already have SOME indication as to the name of the events, and you should look for those and try to delete them.
I have since then flashed a couple of times, so I'm not sure if it got fixed by flashing or with the Outlook solution. Needless to say, I haven't had this problem since, so I suspect that it was a random problem that got fixed at least by reflashing. Sorry.

ibrubeer said:
The way that I solved this problem was through Outlook. I sync with Outlook, and I believe that I went in and deleted them from there. I believe that if you go into the Calendar in Outlook, and select "Events" for the current view, you may find some strange looking events. Mine were events that started out with a couple of blank spaces. I believe they were birthdays/anniversaries that didn't have any names in them, only spaces. At any rate, you should already have SOME indication as to the name of the events, and you should look for those and try to delete them.
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I fixed it through outlook as well. Though I did find some way to see the event on the phone. Thanks!

are my contacts gone?

I was having trouble making outlook work. It just suddenly would not start up. All the typical advice, and a lot of nontypical advice, failed. Reinstalls failed. So, I have to move on and I proceed to sync up with a separate machine.. a laptop.
There are already 2 profiles that the phone is synced with, so it tells me I have to delete one. I delete both. They're just profiles, after all, and they don't actually work any more.
Now, all my contacts are gone. I've got a really bad feeling that I just told my phone to delete all my contacts.
I'm a programmer. If that's indeed what just happened, this is such astoundingly bad design that I'm pretty much ready to write off windows mobile as "crap"--especially given the fact that I did all this BECAUSE outlook randomly decided to stop working (the famous crash upon startup).
Is there anything, no matter how technical, I can do to get these contacts back?

I just looked at pim.vol in the phone root, and found some of the information in my contacts list, so it implies to me that it should still be there / recoverable. How can I make the phone / outlook / activesync sort this mess out?

hello i'm afaid i'm not much help. but i think i lost all my contacts as well! very very bad. i upgraded to outlook 2003. i deleted my sync settings and created a new relationship. i ran activesync. outlook/activesync deleated all my contacts!! i wanted my contacts to populate outlook...
i'm sick,
tom

malefactor said:
I just looked at pim.vol in the phone root, and found some of the information in my contacts list, so it implies to me that it should still be there / recoverable. How can I make the phone / outlook / activesync sort this mess out?
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Reinstall the PIMbackup in your phone and restore the Pim.vol or transfer the pim.vol to a miniSD card and get a card reader and backup to your PC.hope it'll do the trick.Secondly,it's been reported that the outlook 2007 is having sync problems with contacts on wm6,install outlook 2003 and check if it works out.
Good luck

I'm able to restore the prior pim.vol, finally. But all the contacts are still gone. The microsoft user groups (and microsoft employees that post in there) are quite silent about this - I even tried posting there.
Meanwhile, I have tried every version of outlook I can find. Nothing will actually run on my machine. It's only when you experience something like this that you figure out just how amazingly bad Microsoftware is; I spent about 2 hours trying to make Outlook work, doing everything from erasing all profiles and contacts, re-implanting / re-registering DLLs, to invoking it in every kind of safe mode.. complete uninstall + reinstall..
No dice. Outlook crashes upon startup without a single word as to why. I EVEN TRIED debugging it with visual studio. I'm not a wintel programmer, but it looks to me like the software branched to a nonexistent address (opcodes were garbage).
It is pathetic that Outlook can crash for 50 different reasons with the same failure characteristics, and it holds the user in contempt.
I won't use software like that if I can avoid it. I hope the googlephone buries windows mobile.

[Q] Syncing HTC 7 with Outlook or Own Files

I received my HTC 7 Pro over the weekend. It looks nice, runs fine. I upgraded to Mango Beta. That made it even better. I ordered a 32GB microSD to get the storage the phone deserves. So, I'm excited about my new toy. And then I tried to sync to Outlook.
It seems incredibly strange that on this website chock full of staunch individualists that no one is ranting about being forced to use MS Hotmail and the MS cloud invironment as the only method of allowing a 'Pro' phone to be synchronized with Outlook contacts and calendar. And what about all of the music and files I have on my PC? It isn't rational that I should have to pass 10-20GB of stuff through the MS cloud just because MS have decided that is how they want to manage phone synchronization. I do not want another public e-mail address and I certainly do not want to push my business correspondence through one.
[I have just deleted a lengthy rant about MS from here. Suffice it to say I am really dissatisfied with MS and their apparent business intent.]
I like the HTC 7 Pro but I really need to be able to connect a USB cable and transfer my own stuff like I can on any other phone.
So I am looking to all of you for help/advice. If there is no way to synchronize Phone 7 with my laptop then I am perfectly willing to downgrade back to WM6.5 or switch to Android. I just need to know what my options are.
I kept all my packing material. If there is no solution then I will return the phone and get the nearest Android equivalent.
Thanks in advance for your help.
--Steve

Your media can all be transferred using Zune, direct from your computer, wired or over WiFi (after a wired sync you can set the phone to automatically sync when it's plugged in and doing nothing)
Regarding Outlook, I don't know of a single person that doesn't use Exchange or Google, both of which can be used to synchronise mail, calendar, contacts and i believe tasks between computer and mobile device. This is so much more advantageous than 'direct by wire' syncing that I'm surprised you are that concerned. If anything it's good practice to have a backup of these things...
shrines said:
I received my HTC 7 Pro over the weekend. It looks nice, runs fine. I upgraded to Mango Beta. That made it even better. I ordered a 32GB microSD to get the storage the phone deserves. So, I'm excited about my new toy. And then I tried to sync to Outlook.
It seems incredibly strange that on this website chock full of staunch individualists that no one is ranting about being forced to use MS Hotmail and the MS cloud invironment as the only method of allowing a 'Pro' phone to be synchronized with Outlook contacts and calendar. And what about all of the music and files I have on my PC? It isn't rational that I should have to pass 10-20GB of stuff through the MS cloud just because MS have decided that is how they want to manage phone synchronization. I do not want another public e-mail address and I certainly do not want to push my business correspondence through one.
[I have just deleted a lengthy rant about MS from here. Suffice it to say I am really dissatisfied with MS and their apparent business intent.]
I like the HTC 7 Pro but I really need to be able to connect a USB cable and transfer my own stuff like I can on any other phone.
So I am looking to all of you for help/advice. If there is no way to synchronize Phone 7 with my laptop then I am perfectly willing to downgrade back to WM6.5 or switch to Android. I just need to know what my options are.
I kept all my packing material. If there is no solution then I will return the phone and get the nearest Android equivalent.
Thanks in advance for your help.
--Steve
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yea nothing wrong with using the cloud at all. there's also even a hotmail-outlook connector, you are not being "forced" to use hotmail at all ur more than welcome to use ur exchange email to sync ur contacts but u do need a live ID to use the marketplace and Zune. android has this similar practice where u need a Gmail account to even be able to use it period. MS is not going to spy on ur emails or call ur contacts and ur information isn't any less safe on the cloud than it is on ur PC.

Thanks for the replies, folks, but it appears that I have not made myself clear. I have over 2000 contacts due to industry committee activities and customers. I have four email accounts within Outlook, only one of which is an Exchange account. I travel extensively. The MS instructions for moving my contacts to my phone 7 include having to import all of those not on the Exchange server to HotMail using CSV formats. There is no automatic update thereafter. Zune will only update the phone calendar from one 'primary' calendar.
I am in Ireland today and I was unable to sync with Zune because it expected me to change my location/region settings to match my current location (I live in Germany). When I changed my location to Ireland I was informed that my Zune would not work due to restrictions (content licensing, I assume). The same is true if I select Worldwide English. If I switch back my location back to Germany there are no English pages available but I still can't sync.
Many places I visit have no wired or wireless Internet and roaming charges are outrageous. So how do I keep my phone contacts, calendar and files up-to-date with my Outlook through all this?
All I did with WM 6.5 was plug my phone in to my laptop and ActiveSync took care of the update. No more.
And I still haven't been able to sync my phone.
It really looks like Phone 7 is focused on social sites and trying to sell me stuff rather than addressing my needs as a business user.

shrines said:
Thanks for the replies, folks, but it appears that I have not made myself clear. I have over 2000 contacts due to industry committee activities and customers. I have four email accounts within Outlook, only one of which is an Exchange account. I travel extensively. The MS instructions for moving my contacts to my phone 7 include having to import all of those not on the Exchange server to HotMail using CSV formats. There is no automatic update thereafter. Zune will only update the phone calendar from one 'primary' calendar.
I am in Ireland today and I was unable to sync with Zune because it expected me to change my location/region settings to match my current location (I live in Germany). When I changed my location to Ireland I was informed that my Zune would not work due to restrictions (content licensing, I assume). The same is true if I select Worldwide English. If I switch back my location back to Germany there are no English pages available but I still can't sync.
Many places I visit have no wired or wireless Internet and roaming charges are outrageous. So how do I keep my phone contacts, calendar and files up-to-date with my Outlook through all this?
All I did with WM 6.5 was plug my phone in to my laptop and ActiveSync took care of the update. No more.
And I still haven't been able to sync my phone.
It really looks like Phone 7 is focused on social sites and trying to sell me stuff rather than addressing my needs as a business user.
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this is totally incorrect! on wp7 u can add as many exchange accounts as u want and it will sync them and keep them updated vs on wm6.5 and android u can have one, and those contacts that aren't on exchange u can easily add them or import them it is no big deal at all. all the calendars are also updated, on my arrive with the mango beta I have 2 live accounts setup and my Facebook account and it syncs ALL my appointments accordingly to which account they originated from. Zune does not sync any of this, Zune only syncs pictures,videos and music.

Forgive me, but reading that sounds like you haven't actually used the software.
Zune only deals with multimedia and updates - nothing to do with calendars, contacts, or mail.
You can have as many accounts as you like on the phone, they ALL synchronise everything, and in the calendar app every accounts' calendar appears and has a different colour attached to it (mine, for example, highlights Exchange in red, Google in Blue, and Facebook in green, and they all appear together so I know when I'm actually available)
I don't understand how having a thousand contacts is a problem? You can sync contacts from Google, Exchange, or Windows Live into Outlook, then it's a case of using that most amazing of things as Copy and Paste, then the cloud takes care of your syncing.
Travelling a lot, it makes sense to me to just let the phone deal with the sync - when something changes, it gets pushed to the phone automatically, and if you change something on the phone it's pushed to the cloud, where your computer picks it up automatically.
You sound like the perfect example of somebody who could benefit hugely from a push-sync service but doesn't want to...sorry to be frank, but that's just the way it seems to me...
shrines said:
Thanks for the replies, folks, but it appears that I have not made myself clear. I have over 2000 contacts due to industry committee activities and customers. I have four email accounts within Outlook, only one of which is an Exchange account. I travel extensively. The MS instructions for moving my contacts to my phone 7 include having to import all of those not on the Exchange server to HotMail using CSV formats. There is no automatic update thereafter. Zune will only update the phone calendar from one 'primary' calendar.
I am in Ireland today and I was unable to sync with Zune because it expected me to change my location/region settings to match my current location (I live in Germany). When I changed my location to Ireland I was informed that my Zune would not work due to restrictions (content licensing, I assume). The same is true if I select Worldwide English. If I switch back my location back to Germany there are no English pages available but I still can't sync.
Many places I visit have no wired or wireless Internet and roaming charges are outrageous. So how do I keep my phone contacts, calendar and files up-to-date with my Outlook through all this?
All I did with WM 6.5 was plug my phone in to my laptop and ActiveSync took care of the update. No more.
And I still haven't been able to sync my phone.
It really looks like Phone 7 is focused on social sites and trying to sell me stuff rather than addressing my needs as a business user.
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I'm in the same boat sort of. I don't use Exchange, just MS Office an Outlook for my schedule and contacts. I only just got my first WP7 phone and previously I was a recent WM user migrating from my Axim x51v. Been using a PDA since WM2003. I really find it hard to fathom why MS would make it so that their products can't talk to each other. I've installed the connecter and still couldn't get it to sync up to Hotmail very easily. I've got my contacts in teh phone but still can't get my calender to move over.

My suggestion to you John would be to get yourself a Google account, which you can sync using the Exchange protocol into Outlook, and which the phone can sync automatically. That's probably the easiest way of doing things.

Hi all
Currently using an HTC Touch Pro 2 and was considering upgrading to HTC 7 Pro. Came across this post and am very concerned. Due to work data restrictions phone must be able to connect using ordinary USB cable. Is there no way that this can happen on WM7?
Thanks
Barney
P.S Was cosiderng WM7 v. Android and decided to stick with Windows (seeing as that is all I have ever had) This could be a deal breaker though, assuming Android phones can easily sync using USB.

My god where do you work!?
Unfortunately it would appear the draconian restrictions in your workplace are letting you down - neither WP7 or Android are designed to synchronise PIM data over USB. HTC have bodged together a not-fantastic workaround for Android which is probably your only choice...
Edit: By connect, what do you mean? Obviously any phone can connect, just not necessarily sync.

I do mean syncing of data (calendar, tasks, contacts, notes) over a USB cable. I gather there are apps that work on Android that allow this even though native android doesn't.
Looks like its going to have to be Android then. Looking at Samsung Galaxy S2 just now. Got another couple of months so Microsoft may sort this but somehow I don't think they will - must admit not sure why not, their mobile phone sales have dropped a lot over the past few years and with this sort of design I now know why. Been using them for around 7 years now but looks like I will be forced to move away.
Cheers
Barney
Edit: I gather that the iPhone natively supports direct sync to Microsoft Outlook - shudder, now having to include that in my shortlist! How did Microsoft get it soooo wrong!!!

Barneyabz said:
I do mean syncing of data (calendar, tasks, contacts, notes) over a USB cable. I gather there are apps that work on Android that allow this even though native android doesn't.
Looks like its going to have to be Android then. Looking at Samsung Galaxy S2 just now. Got another couple of months so Microsoft may sort this but somehow I don't think they will - must admit not sure why not, their mobile phone sales have dropped a lot over the past few years and with this sort of design I now know why. Been using them for around 7 years now but looks like I will be forced to move away.
Cheers
Barney
Edit: I gather that the iPhone natively supports direct sync to Microsoft Outlook - shudder, now having to include that in my shortlist! How did Microsoft get it soooo wrong!!!
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all over USB sync? u gotta be kidding. I ain't even going to bother with proving how dumb this post sounds.

eric12341 said:
all over USB sync? u gotta be kidding. I ain't even going to bother with proving how dumb this post sounds.
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+1 - couldn't agree more. These phones are made almost entirely for the internet.

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all over USB sync? u gotta be kidding. I ain't even going to bother with proving how dumb this post sounds.
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Think you missed my earlier post - feel free to look for it. Point is that work restrictions mean I will not be allowed to sync via the cloud. As I said in my earlier post, not going to argue or debate whether this is good or bad, no point.
Therefore I am now left with Android or iphone unless Microsoft get this sorted.
By the way Google it and you will see that it is proving to be a major sticking point with business users and is turning users away from windows phone 7 with more windows mobile 6.5 phones still being sold then windows 7 with this being one of the reasons.
cheers
Barney

Barneyabz said:
Think you missed my earlier post - feel free to look for it. Point is that work restrictions mean I will not be allowed to sync via the cloud. As I said in my earlier post, not going to argue or debate whether this is good or bad, no point.
Therefore I am now left with Android or iphone unless Microsoft get this sorted.
By the way Google it and you will see that it is proving to be a major sticking point with business users and is turning users away from windows phone 7 with more windows mobile 6.5 phones still being sold then windows 7 with this being one of the reasons.
cheers
Barney
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alot of workplaces support exchange server synching of contacts and the like, there's also a hotmail-outlook connector that will sync content back n forth accordingly,so I didn't miss anything.

really not picking an arguement - not sure if you are.
However for information sake only, for others that might read this thread, using hotmail connector means uploading and downloading all the info via Microsoft servers, and the other option of microsoft exchange, well not all firms use exchange.
Therefore if a company does not agree to one of these methods it means Windows Phone 7 is not an option
Barney

Here's my set-up:
Hotmail account (had for "ever") that I use to access MS services such as XBox Live, Skydrive, etc. --- this has become my centralized sync point just because it was empty and is well integrated
Personal domain accounts hosted with Google Apps --- these all sync to my WP7 phone
Various Gmail accounts --- again, all synced to my WP7 phone
Yahoo account --- again, synced to my WP7
Work calendar (not interested in getting e-mails) --- using Google Sync, my work calendar is pushed to one of my Gmail accounts.....so all of my appointments appear on my phone (http://www.google.com/mobile/sync/)
Facebook --- synced as well.
All total, I have 10 accounts listed in the settings. All of them sync flawlessly. All of my information is stored where I want it and blended on my phone. Contacts from my personal domain that are related to side business are available on my phone but aren't stored on my hotmail account. Contacts in Yahoo don't show up in my side-business e-mail accounts. Etc. The phone is the central hub, but information is still segmented just how I want it. When a contact spans accounts, I've linked them with that feature and all of the information shows up under one entry. I can pick home or mobile or work related info even though each piece is from a different account.
And when Mango is released and I have a single inbox, the phone will become even more of a central hub to everything.

Barneyabz said:
Think you missed my earlier post - feel free to look for it. Point is that work restrictions mean I will not be allowed to sync via the cloud. As I said in my earlier post, not going to argue or debate whether this is good or bad, no point.
Therefore I am now left with Android or iphone unless Microsoft get this sorted.
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I'm unsure of exactly why you're saying Android and iOS don't sync over the cloud. Neither of them have a method of syncing ONLY over USB.
For whatever reasons, you are unhappy with WP7, and it's likely just not the right solution for you. With that being said, why bother coming back to this thread unless you have a specific need to argue?
We get it. You feel that WP7 doesn't work for you. If there is a problem with the functionality or design, take that up with MS, and not with a fan board.
If you're going to argue semantics like amount of WM6.5 devices sold over WP7, at least have the courtesy to link your information. I'm going to continue to not take you or your concerns seriously until you actually understand how all of the major mobile OS devices actually sync.
Tell your IT department to get out of a cave and update their software solutions. Any new-ish version of Exchange Server will properly support OTA sync'ing of contacts.
Other than that, have fun in Apple land.

Actually I didn't say that iphone and Adnroid don't sync over the cloud, but you can do both therefore chosing to sync directly with outlook if you wish. Considering the first post on this thread, i.e. the point of the thread, is about this issue, I believe my posts have been on topic. Sorry if that has bothered you but believe it or not this is a major issue affecting many users out there.
Here are a couple of links to an article regarding windows mobile 6.5 outselling windows phone 7 during the winter
http://www.mobot.net/windows-mobile-outselling-windows-phone-7-23633
http://wmpoweruser.com/gartner-1-6-million-windows-phone-7-handsets-sold-to-customers-in-q1-2011/
By the way I didn't participate in this thread to argue, my original post is below
Barneyabz said:
Hi all
Currently using an HTC Touch Pro 2 and was considering upgrading to HTC 7 Pro. Came across this post and am very concerned. Due to work data restrictions phone must be able to connect using ordinary USB cable. Is there no way that this can happen on WM7?
Thanks
Barney
P.S Was cosiderng WM7 v. Android and decided to stick with Windows (seeing as that is all I have ever had) This could be a deal breaker though, assuming Android phones can easily sync using USB.
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I participated precisely because I like windows operating systems and was looking for help in getting it do what I want it to do, like a number of other posters on this thread. Instead I got a bunch of emails justifying what Microsoft have done rather then answering the post - why?
Now have carefully read this post and do believe that there is nothing wrong in it, its in the spirit of the board, which by the way I have been a member of for a long time, and will continue to be.
This will be my last post on this thread unless there is something posted relevant to my (and the starter of the thread) original question.

Folks,
Thanks for all your opinions.
It seems that I am not alone. Please refer to the 53 pages of complaint to MS regarding Win 7's inability to sync with Outlook in the way that some of us need to work:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...4c-87cc-54d8c5c012d2?page=50&tm=1312012136534
There is a 1000 contact limit to the number of contacts on HotMail. Tasks and notes are not sync'ed. I have no interest in exposing my data to the MS cloud when they have not published a security risk assessment and take no responsibility for data in their care.
I travel internationally; all the time. Having my phone sync automatically to get e-mail and updates costs me hundreds of dollars a month. Previously I could turn off data roaming and update my phone at night in my hotel with a cable.
I bought the HTC 7 Pro as the successor to my MDA Vario 5 (Touch Pro 2). After a frustrating week I have gone back to the Touch Pro 2 because WM6.5 works the way that I do.
My post was not meant to be an MS-bashing session. I was trying to understand and solve some major shortcomings with my new phone that affect the way I work.
So. I've got this new phone. The HTC 7 Pro hardware is quite nice now that I've upgraded the microSD card. Anybody know how to switch over to Android or back to WM6.5?
--Steve

Any chance of syncing?

Is there a way to sync my WP7 phone like the old WindowsMobile phones?
this phone is not for online purpose (too expensive!!!) so I need to sync it via cable.

Drake008 said:
Is there a way to sync my WP7 phone like the old WindowsMobile phones?
this phone is not for online purpose (too expensive!!!) so I need to sync it via cable.
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Yes, you need to install Zune.

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Drake008 said:
Is there a way to sync my WP7 phone like the old WindowsMobile phones?
this phone is not for online purpose (too expensive!!!) so I need to sync it via cable.
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Seriously i don't know what this guy is talking about.

SO I have Outlook 2003 with all my contacts and appointments in it. This was easy to sync with my old MDA.
Now with the new WP7 this function is nowhere to find. All what opens is Zune an this does not sync anything from outlook in any way.

It just doesn't sync with Outlook in a normal way.
Zune doesn't do it (still!). Apparently this simpe task was to difficult to implement it on WP7, or rather MS wanted to force you to use cloud.
The only choice you have to Sync PC/Outlook and WP7 phone
is to get Hotmail plugin in the Office,
this way you can sync Calendar and Contacts, via data plan/wifi.

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For me, the inability to sync directly with a PC is the one and only deal breaker. My calendar, contacts, etc. are all housed in Outlook at work and my company blocks all access to third-party email systems, making syncing the "Windows Phone" way completely impossible.
I tried extracting the calendar and contacts into data files, importing them into Gmail, and then syncing with the Quantum that I picked up on Ebay, and it was an epic fail! Many contacts were missing their contact names and recurring appointments were converted into individual appointments, which would make rescheduling those appointments a *HUGE* P.I.T.A.!!! They never should have removed that ability to sync with a PC completely.
In less than 2 days, I couldn't wait to switch back to using my Rhodium full time. Sure, I miss the coolness factor of the new bells and whistles in Windows Phone, but I am confident that I can trust that my data is always up to date and complete in my Windows Mobile phone.
Debbie

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inteller said:
that's pretty funny because my company "blocks anything but Blackberry" but all I had to do is put in my credentials for the exchange account and autodiscovery grabbed everything and sync'd it to the phone. Did you even try that? Granted your company needs to be in the modern era and not stuck onsomething like Exchange 2003.
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My company will not disclose the Exchange server (yes, we're on 2003) credentials to anyone, because they do not want anyone accessing the server with an unauthorized personal device. If they want you to have access to the servers for business purposes, they will only allow it via a company-provided Blackberry or laptop computer. The only thing I am able to do is sync my calendar, contacts, task list, and notes with my Rhodium via ActiveSync. I do not send/receive company email via my Rhodium.

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go android. The conversion from winmo (which I loved) to win phone 7 forced me to android. Which I love now, and you can sync anything (Google or exchange, or whatever else). MS Fd up.
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scottspa74 said:
go android. The conversion from winmo (which I loved) to win phone 7 forced me to android. Which I love now, and you can sync anything (Google or exchange, or whatever else). MS Fd up.
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Funny that all the sync features you listed here can as well be synced on WP in the exact same way. The OP was asking for a way to sync his desktop Outlook with his device without using any internet services.

scottspa74 said:
go android. The conversion from winmo (which I loved) to win phone 7 forced me to android. Which I love now, and you can sync anything (Google or exchange, or whatever else). MS Fd up.
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dkp1977 said:
Funny that all the sync features you listed here can as well be synced on WP in the exact same way. The OP was asking for a way to sync his desktop Outlook with his device without using any internet services.
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Yes, exactly! It still baffles me as to why MS would remove that option entirely. They rewrote the mobile OS completely to compete with Android and iPhone, but yet they limit you to syncing your data the same way that the competitors do? Why not go the extra step and allow your customers to choose their sync method, so as to not completely alienate your current users?
As it is, my home PC is Vista, while my work PC is XP, so syncing with 2 PCs is impossible. ActiveSync and Device Center conflict with each other so badly, that I can't even sync my data at work, sync it at home, and then sync my home Outlook with the web services, so that I can then sync with a WP7 device. Hell, I'd carry my Rhodium around with me (without the SIM card), just for syncing purposes, if I could do that!
I kind of understand what they were going for, but in doing so they have unwittingly made sure that I have no choice but to continue using my Rhodium... Happily! BTW, did I read correctly that Apollo is rumored to be bringing back PC syncing??? [Psst... Microsoft, if you give consumers more than what the competitors are, you just may gain some additional market share.... Just sayin'. ]
inteller said:
2003...time to upgrade to another company.
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Easier said than done... In this economy (got laid off in Nov.), I'm just happy to be working at all!
Debbie

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DebbieNY13 said:
I kind of understand what they were going for, but in doing so they have unwittingly made sure that I have no choice but to continue using my Rhodium... Happily! BTW, did I read correctly that Apollo is rumored to be bringing back PC syncing??? [Psst... Microsoft, if you give consumers more than what the competitors are and you just may gain some additional market share.... Just sayin'. ]
Easier said than done... In this economy (got laid off in Nov.), I'm just happy to be working at all!
Debbie
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I've read that somewhere too. But it wasn't really specific. Could mean you can only sync media and probably documents like you used to back in the days of Windows Mobile. But I agree that adding cable sync for Outlook for those who can't use cloud services or Exchange or simply don't want to would set Windows Phone a little more apart from its competitors.