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Qtek 9600/HTC TyTN vs. HTC P3600 which one?

Can anyone tell me which of these HTC machines I should go for...
* Qtek 9600 / HTC TyTN
or
* HTC P3600
I would like to have WLAN, ability to use VOIP sip phones on it, useful for navigator, I would prefer QWERTY but not 100% important... on which one of them can I also use TomTom or any of the navigation systems out there...
thanks for more information

Tytn
if you edit and re-title/subject you're more likely to get responses from people who have either or both devices.
But my choice will be the Tytn because 1 the HTC P3600 is not available where I am, 2 I'd miss the keyboard after having a Wizard and 3 looking at the wiki, they look the same except for battery life and mine gets plugged into my pc every day and charges anyway.
B

thanks bbobeckyj for ur response... I wonder what sort of keyboard is with the P3600 as I haven't seen any picture or any info about this. I also think the TyTN would be nice for its QWERTY since using P990i small QWERTY made my writing much fun...
I am basically planning to get either one of this gadgets basically for VoIP over WLAN purposes & navigation since I own a SE P990i which lack the VoIP from Skype or any SIP soft phone but I wont mind enjoying easy texting to webpages and emails...

sorry,
I wasn't very clear,what I meant to say was that they look the same except the keyboard AND the battery life,
there is no board with the p3600,
B

please what is the board and what keyboard is with the p3600? I am new with these machines but I want to know b4 i make the final decision...
thnx

no keyboard on p3600
There is NOT a keyboard with the p3600. I was a little unclear in my first reply.
They look the same except the Tytn has a keyboard but a shorter batery life.
So basically, do you want a keyboard or a thin phone?
Sorry for the confusion,
B

i would like to have a keyboard but if I know what is on the p3600, i can decide properly. how can i type SMS on the p3600 if there is no keyboard or physical dialpad?
thnx

Tytn vs 3600
The Tytn (also i-mate Jasjam, Dopod 838 Pro) has a sliding keybord. Type in Jasjam or Tytn to Google and you'll get 1000 pictures. The 3600 lacks the keyboard, but has a functioning GPS chip that is only waiting for a factory ROM to make it work. Unless they can solve some hardware issues the Tytn will never have GPS so you will need a Bluetooth GPS receiver with the Tytn. It will them work as a Navigator. Check
http://www.calculatorking.com.au/images/dopod 838.jpg
for just one reference.

"i would like to have a keyboard but if I know what is on the p3600, i can decide properly. how can i type SMS on the p3600 if there is no keyboard or physical dialpad?"
pda phones have touch screens and support you writing sms's in handwriting on the screen or using the software keyboard in the software

p3450. herald (i think) is halfway between the wizard and tytn. look them all up on youtube to get a good view
B

Rudegar said:
pda phones have touch screens and support you writing sms's in handwriting on the screen or using the software keyboard in the software
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thanks everyone for the input..i do like TyTN for the keyboard as it is quite stylish and fast to type SMS or use emails but with that P3600, it will be difficult to achieve that. I am indeed interest in the GPS and faster system in the P3600 but since many things even needs to be solved on the model,I better 4get about it

Cell's ID & Tracking programs

Hi guys, i'm in search of a program that recognize, store & interprets GSM Cell's ID.
I know that PhoneAlarm has this feature, however time ago, i've seen a program into an user signature, which does exclusively what i want... but i don't remember the name of the user/program.
Any suggest is accepted, naturally the app in subject must be enabled to perform an operation when i'm entering/leaving determined groups of GSM cells.
Thanx 4 your response... i know i'm not the one who wants to discover new apps

thankyou... Cell Profiler is what i'm in search of

CellProfileSwitcher is for smartphones but also supports some PPC's
There is also limited support for the following phone edition PocketPCs:
* HTC Wizard: T-Mobile MDA Vario, Qtek 9100
* HTC Prophet: Qtek S200, o2 XDA neo
For the PocketPC, not all actions are supported. Unsupported actions are greyed out. Als, the home screen plugin does not work.

cell profiler doesn't seem to work on wm5... so let us know if it does work on your device...
Personally I like cellprofileswitcher and wish the author would put more PPCPE support.

thnx 4 the reply
PhoneAlarm works great, but it's too invasive....
Do you know another software like this?? i Have an Hermes.... i hope cellprofileswitcher doesnt't work with it... and above all with WM6 !!!

PLease Help

Hi, Guys and Gals
I rencently acccquired a HTC Touch Cruise but my one doesn´t bring any GPS program installed on it, and also I don´t Know even if the phone brings GPS or not, how I can test it ?, I need to buy something extra for it I´ll apreciate if you can help me with this.
thanks in advance

Your Touch Cruise does have a GPS in it. Also it should come with a copy of TomTom on the CD with one free map. If you live in the US or UK try Microsoft Live Search. Or you can always try the HTC GPS Diagnostic tool. It doesn't show maps, but at least shows you when you get a GPS lock and lat/long, heading, speed, etc.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=360477

Best car navigation solution for Raphael?

Hi there,
I am looking for a good car navigation solution for Raphael (for travelling in Europe). After reading infos about TT which seems to work at least with the latest releases and Navigon (for which I am not that sure ...), I now read about Tele Atlas McGuider which also seems to be quite good and even less expensive, but it seems to lack TMC or other traffic assistance support which is crucial for me (radio broadcasted or via internet, I do not mind, but it is a must).
I know that there are some other solutions out there. I wonder if you guys have experiences to share, also w/regard to VGA screen resolution and so on.
Thanks!
Eriol

I like the CoPilot Live, works very well and has a nice look and feel.

Co Pilot live is ok, but the traffic part of it is rubbish compared with tomtom. There is no visual display of traffic incidents ahead on the map, only a description that pops up with incident details which you either avoid or ignore. You can set it to automatically reroute, but you dont know whats going on. In my opinion, tomtom is currently the best.
I also found co-pilot slow to scroll around the map, but there again i dont have a fast mem card. Unfortunately there si no trial version available. make sure you get the version specific for the HTC diamond (also compatible with Touch Pro). It can be purchased online (from handango) cheaper than most retail stores.

Thx to both of you! I still would like to compare TomTom with McGuider ...
Eriol

McGuider
Hello,
I am using last version McGuider (7.x I think) and it work fine, but map and icons are too small, I and don't know if it can be repair.
Please if some one use thist program please write down here about how work.
Bye

Garmin XT is the best imo. TT cannot hold a candle to Garmin.

iGO 8
I think iGO 8 is the best solution for Raphael

Navigon
I really like Navigon !
Search Youtube for Navigon 7 !!
Greetzzz,
Jochen

jochenandries said:
I really like Navigon !
Search Youtube for Navigon 7 !!
Greetzzz,
Jochen
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Hi Jochen,
I have a stand alone PNA running Navigon 6.5, and I like it, too. But my experience with Navigon, especially running on my HTC Wizard (MN 6.x), is that the route calculation is rather slow and the whole app is not that fast on a PDA. This might be different on a Raphael due to processor speed, though. We also will use an Xperia X1 here: Is it possible to run MN7 on 800x480 screens?
Eriol

i maybe wrong, but some navigation programs will only run when the supplied memory card is installed. Installing the maps to another card will not work which therefore means you have to swap cards when using the software. Check before you buy!!!

jochenandries said:
I really like Navigon !
Search Youtube for Navigon 7 !!
Greetzzz,
Jochen
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Navigon is nice-- but once you're in the tunnel and lose signal it would say you've reach your destination I also don't like its route calculation-- it's giving me a longer route than tomtom

To my mind ist the default navigation (TomTom 7.451) the best. it uses vga, is fast, new maps
Eriol said:
Hi there,
I am looking for a good car navigation solution for Raphael (for travelling in Europe). After reading infos about TT which seems to work at least with the latest releases and Navigon (for which I am not that sure ...), I now read about Tele Atlas McGuider which also seems to be quite good and even less expensive, but it seems to lack TMC or other traffic assistance support which is crucial for me (radio broadcasted or via internet, I do not mind, but it is a must).
I know that there are some other solutions out there. I wonder if you guys have experiences to share, also w/regard to VGA screen resolution and so on.
Thanks!
Eriol
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ardsar said:
Co Pilot live is ok, but the traffic part of it is rubbish compared with tomtom. There is no visual display of traffic incidents ahead on the map, only a description that pops up with incident details which you either avoid or ignore. You can set it to automatically reroute, but you dont know whats going on. In my opinion, tomtom is currently the best.
I also found co-pilot slow to scroll around the map, but there again i dont have a fast mem card. Unfortunately there si no trial version available. make sure you get the version specific for the HTC diamond (also compatible with Touch Pro). It can be purchased online (from handango) cheaper than most retail stores.
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In Copilot7 there is indeed visual display of incidents ahead on the map, you also can get to incident-specific info in just three taps, reporting delay and other usefull info........
No need for automatic rerouting, you can let Copilot ask you what you want to do, after you have read the incident-info and delay time.....
No need for the diamond-version either, regular version runs great on my Touchpro....
See.......................you we're allmost right.....

Someone tried Navigon Mobile Navigator 7 for PDA on Raphael?
Is it compatible and full working?
Before then I buy, I asked to the support team, but no clear response about it.
Thanks.

NAVIGON Mobile Navigator 7 can work fine on Raphael, with this simple workaround.
You need a GPS port replicator (like Franson GPSgate) to solve the GPS signal stability problem on MN7.
I hope this can help who love this product family.

Help on a smartphone needed

Hi there
Just after a bit of help or reccommendations please. I want a pda/phone that has the following features:
Runs Windows (for live and messenger)
wifi
Runs office applications like exel etc so you can edit
Has a slide out qwerty keyboard (with or without touchscreen)
Has a camera and secondary camera (with flash would be ideal)
Possibly a radio although not relevant.
Something i can pick up on ebay for around £100 or cheaper!
I currently have an XDA Orbit which i adore, but want to upgrade and i know there are loads on the market now so need your help in choosing.
Thank you.

Either the Samsung B7610 or Htc touch pro 2

I would check out the HTC Rhodium TP2...

Yes!
Go for Rhodium!