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Does anyone have one? Is there a original MS rom that supports Internet calling for download. I switched to WM6 just for this reason, but i haven't got any rom to work with this functionality.
I'm using a I-Mate K-Jam, and have tried several different rom's.
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Does anyone have one? Is there a original MS rom that supports Internet calling for download. I switched to WM6 just for this reason, but i haven't got any rom to work with this functionality.
I'm using a I-Mate K-Jam, and have tried several different rom's.
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The client is there but it isn't provisioned for use. The way I understand it is your Network Provider should provide the customisation to the phone for their SIP service. There is a fair bit on M$'s website about phone provisioning and registry settings for the IP Phone but I don't know anyone who has had any success so far. I think we need to wait until a real WM6 device appears that is already provisioned and then strip it.
There is already a thread on this on the forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290786
Andy
Yes it is, and it works.
See http://cleanimport.xda/index.php?threads/299950/.
--eluth.
I've tried quite a few of the WM6 ROMS (The only ones I haven't tried was Ivan's and Darkforce's). But I always see myself going back to WM5 (mostly because I miss video calling). Is it just me? or is there something about WM6 that I'm not seeing? This question is much like Windows XP vs Windows Vista... I just couldn't see any reason to use Vista.
Anyone kind enough to site the major differences or advantages between the two? (except for aesthetics, of course)
I know I could just google for comparison charts or something.. but I prefer various "user opinions" So please don't point me here: WM5 vs WM6 chart... besides, it's not very accurate since most cooked WM5 ROMS does have a few added features.
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I've tried quite a few of the WM6 ROMS (The only ones I haven't tried was Ivan's and Darkforce's). But I always see myself going back to WM5 (mostly because I miss video calling). Is it just me? or is there something about WM6 that I'm not seeing? This question is much like Windows XP vs Windows Vista... I just couldn't see any reason to use Vista.
Anyone kind enough to site the major differences or advantages between the two? (except for aesthetics, of course)
I know I could just google for comparison charts or something.. but I prefer various "user opinions" So please don't point me here: WM5 vs WM6 chart... besides, it's not very accurate since most cooked WM5 ROMS does have a few added features.
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I agree with you to some extent.
In my opinion wm5 is much stable and made for the universal device that we all have.
Wm6 is not compatible and a beta app. Video call is part of the hardware and with wm6 , in-directly we have terminated that, in other words the world moves towards 3G/umts and we have made our devices fall back to 2G with wm6 crossbow which doesnot have video call.
Also its like driving hard to make wm6 perfect , which will never happen.
Its just like using a car and trying to put in a engine that is not compatible.
So I think uni devices is directly proportional to wm5. Period!
The reason I use WM6 over WM5 is this:
I love tweaking and messing around with my Universal
I'm not afraid of "bricking" it or having to reflash\loose data
I am hoping (sometimes I think, its a false hope...) that a WM6 ROM will be superior to my old WM5 one
Why the hell not?
Like I've said before - this is a forum for developers\hackers\tweakers, if you want a perfect ROM - look to your manufacturer. If you want to have some fun with your Universal (and void its warranty) then look no further!
TehPenguin said:
The reason I use WM6 over WM5 is this:
I love tweaking and messing around with my Universal
I'm not afraid of "bricking" it or having to reflash\loose data
I am hoping (sometimes I think, its a false hope...) that a WM6 ROM will be superior to my old WM5 one
Why the hell not?
Like I've said before - this is a forum for developers\hackers\tweakers, if you want a perfect ROM - look to your manufacturer. If you want to have some fun with your Universal (and void its warranty) then look no further!
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What he said
ditto ditto
DaVince said:
I've tried quite a few of the WM6 ROMS (The only ones I haven't tried was Ivan's and Darkforce's). But I always see myself going back to WM5 (mostly because I miss video calling). Is it just me? or is there something about WM6 that I'm not seeing? This question is much like Windows XP vs Windows Vista... I just couldn't see any reason to use Vista.
Anyone kind enough to site the major differences or advantages between the two? (except for aesthetics, of course)
I know I could just google for comparison charts or something.. but I prefer various "user opinions" So please don't point me here: WM5 vs WM6 chart... besides, it's not very accurate since most cooked WM5 ROMS does have a few added features.
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There are a couple of apps that I find very useful, the new RDP client is much better & I use that a lot, Internet Sharing is a great tool for connecting to the Internet from my laptop on the move. The upgrade to the Office apps to support Office 2007 documents will help people who move to Off2007, but even though I use it I still save my files in Off2003 format so that the rest of the world can read them.
Apart from that I am sticking with WM5 for now because I need something that works more reliably.
I have reverted back to WM5 just after using the WM6 on universal for ~1h everytime. Reason: Its slow as compared to WM5(yeah, ironic ) and few unfixed bugs
But, what I love about WM6..
1)progress bar in Office apps. I love it when it shows the progress while opeing my big word document containing plethora of pics.
2)no 'unidentified driver' problem: many of us were getting this problem under wm5. I didn't experience it under wm6 under that 1h span though (my solution to that problem in WM5: as long as you use wisbar advance2, you will NEVER experience that problem)
3)glossy looks (though I still prefer wisbar advance)(see the screenshot attatched)
4)better phone integration
On the other hand, I m using WM6 on my wizard and its perfect
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Well, I don't want to switch back to WM5. Mainly for those reasons:
1/ I don't use video Calling because NO ONE from my about 700 contacts has video calling capabilites (that's Germany ;-)
2/ The new RDP-Client is REALLY great and I use it often to connect to my Server
3/ The Messaging features like "instant search" is for me one of the most important, as I use the universal to write about 20 eMails per Day and take notes when i'm at my customers.
4/ (I know you don't want to read it ;-) The nicer looking
5/ My Universal is much faster with WM6 (not with all releases though) as with the original WM5 ROMs.
6/ The Original T-Mobile WM5 ROM is UGLY AS HELL ;-)
7/ I forgot: The Call-List in the corresponding Contact is another great Feature
If I can think of anything more, I'll tell you
I find WM6 faster and - unlike some posters - much MUCH more stable.
TehPenguin said:
I love tweaking and messing around with my Universal
I'm not afraid of "bricking" it or having to reflash\loose data
I am hoping (sometimes I think, its a false hope...) that a WM6 ROM will be superior to my old WM5 one
Why the hell not?
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I too have been used such reasoning. Unfortunately after a while I came to the realisation that it was a false hope and went back to WM5.
That said, one reason to use WM6 is that the contacts app can query the DirectPush active directory to get Exchange contact details.
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I find WM6 faster and - unlike some posters - much MUCH more stable.
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same here. german wm5 is unusable, slow as hell and buggy.
Hi,
I'm using WM6 (LVSW's ROM 2007-05-19) at the moment, mainly because I bought an Imate JasJam (Australian Telstra network) but use it on our "3" network and I didn't want to install the 3 Dopod ROM.
I did remove the Telstra customisations, but then lost Video call.
With LVSW's ROM, I now have video call back - Why do you say you don't have video calls in WM6????
I like to play with devices too!
Benifits so far (48 hours use) no freezes, a little faster, nicer looking & navigation plus there's a few new options but I'm not sure if they are useful to me.
Bad points - less memory storage & everyone at work is asking me about WM6!
Cheers! Oggy.
p.s. look further at video calls - it works for me!
Ogier said:
Hi,
I did remove the Telstra customisations, but then lost Video call.
With LVSW's ROM, I now have video call back - Why do you say you don't have video calls in WM6????
Cheers! Oggy.
p.s. look further at video calls - it works for me!
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REALLY??? Can you please give us more details as how you manage that? Links are good too.
WM5? Which AKU you are you talking about?
Here, the official WM5 release is AKU2, which is so slow that you can zZzZz.
For Cooked ROM, WM5 is up to AKU3.5 which is the one I am using, is with Video Call and fast.
WM6 still does not have video call, but there is a beta VideoCall cab which you can try, some works, some doesn't.
WM6 speed compare to WM5 AKU3.5, speed difference is marginal, but both are definitely faster than WM5 AKU1 & WM AKU2. But for WM6 to be slower than WM5, hmmm, how could this possible.
german t-mobile wm5 rom is quite unstable and unreliable. Some programs doesn't work at all on t-mobile wm5 roms (like cLaunch - ok, I know stupid example because cLaunch doesn't support vga resolutions at all... but it was the first application that came to my mind )
I'm satisfied with the functionality of wm6 roms. there is just one thing I don't like about it - how can I change the keyboard layout of an english rom? I would like to have an english rom but with the layout of a german keyboard - any ideas how to do that?
Ogier said:
Hi,
I'm using WM6 (LVSW's ROM 2007-05-19) at the moment, mainly because I bought an Imate JasJam (Australian Telstra network) but use it on our "3" network and I didn't want to install the 3 Dopod ROM.
I did remove the Telstra customisations, but then lost Video call.
With LVSW's ROM, I now have video call back - Why do you say you don't have video calls in WM6????
I like to play with devices too!
Benifits so far (48 hours use) no freezes, a little faster, nicer looking & navigation plus there's a few new options but I'm not sure if they are useful to me.
Bad points - less memory storage & everyone at work is asking me about WM6!
Cheers! Oggy.
p.s. look further at video calls - it works for me!
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One problem with that - we have the I-Mate JasJar not the JasJam
Not meaning to flame, but as clarification:
I-Mate JasJam - - - - - I-Mate JasJar
Dopod 838Pro - - - - - Dopod 900
O2 Xda Trion - - - - - - O2 Exec
HTC Hermes - - - - - - HTC Universal
So, your WM6 ROM is different to ours
(How do I know the above? Well, I work for 3 in Australia.... )
hello,
I'm using Wm6 beta rom for testing exchange 2007 improvement with this os and there a lot of new features !!
like html mail format, Simplified Administration, Increased Monitoring and Flexible Policy Management ...
aniel1 said:
Video call is part of the hardware and with wm6 , in-directly we have terminated that, in other words the world moves towards 3G/umts and we have made our devices fall back to 2G with wm6 crossbow which doesnot have video call.
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If only there's video call on WM6.. i would stick to it... video calling is quite popular here.. my girlfriend has a 3G fone... so video calling is very important for me.
TehPenguin said:
The reason I use WM6 over WM5 is this:
I love tweaking and messing around with my Universal
I'm not afraid of "bricking" it or having to reflash\loose data
I am hoping (sometimes I think, its a false hope...) that a WM6 ROM will be superior to my old WM5 one
Why the hell not?
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Hehe! Me too..
cottinghamm said:
Internet Sharing is a great tool for connecting to the Internet from my laptop on the move.
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This is also available for the WM5 (AKU3.3 and later) right?
NiTeSHiFT said:
2/ The new RDP-Client is REALLY great and I use it often to connect to my Server
3/ The Messaging features like "instant search" is for me one of the most important, as I use the universal to write about 20 eMails per Day and take notes when i'm at my customers.
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2. Terminal Services can also do this right? though i don't really use it so I wouldn't know if it's better.
3. Oh yeah.. love that too.. way easier than scrolling through messages...
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I find WM6 faster and - unlike some posters - much MUCH more stable.
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Maybe you were using an old WM5. You must try WM5 AKU3.5 or WM5 AKU3.5.
Ogier said:
I'm using WM6 (LVSW's ROM 2007-05-19) at the moment, mainly because I bought an Imate JasJam (Australian Telstra network)
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We have Universals my friend, we are on the Universal thread. You have a Hermes...
CWKJ said:
WM5? Which AKU you are you talking about?
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AKU3.3 and 3.5. The older ones are way too slow and crappy.
fla242 said:
like html mail format, Simplified Administration, Increased Monitoring and Flexible Policy Management ...
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Ah yes.. html mail format... very nice too. uhmm.. would you care to elaborate about Simplified Administration, Increased Monitoring and Flexible Policy Management? Thanks...
DaVince said:
If only there's video call on WM6.. i would stick to it... video calling is quite popular here.. my girlfriend has a 3G fone... so video calling is very important for me.
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How popular is the Universal in Manila? Just curious...
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How popular is the Universal in Manila? Just curious...
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Not very popular. Probably not more than 25 people owns a Universal in Manila.. and only 3-4 of them (including me) actually bothers to flash their ROMS since they're too scared..
85% of cellphone users here use Nokia since Nokia devices (particularly the N series) have good 3G support. Most PPC devices seen here would be the Atom, XDA II/i, and Dopod 838 Pro.
3G is very good here.. and the reason I bought a Universal is because during the time I bought this (early 2006), this was the first PPC available that supports video calling... So please somebody make video calling work on WM6.. :beg:
I think the HTC Wizard is great and I love the ability to be able to extract and rebuild ROMs to my liking However I think it has peaked and the cracks are now beginning to show (IMO ). WM6 was only ever a test on this device and M$ & HTC have long stopped developing for it. The 'leaked' ROM (5.2.318) contained the most recent hardware drivers and have never been updated, however Windows Mobile 6 has moved on somewhat, which I feel is now leading to some compatibility issues - for me the most important are the integrated VoIP client & 'real' VPN (L2TP/IPSec and NOT PPTP). Plus the Wizard is now quite old - relatively poor camera compared to more recent PDA Phones, size - it's quite big, again compared to more recent offerings.
Unfortunately this is making me look at alternatives However I need certain key things:
1. Windows Mobile 6
2. WiFi 802.11G
3. Integrated VoIP must work and be stable
4. L2TP/IPSec VPN must work and be stable
5. Touch Screen & Pull-Out Keyboard
6. Camera 2MP or more
7. Bluetooth (for hands-free headset)
8. Slimmer/Smaller than the Wizard?
I would also really like the ability to extract and rebuild ROMs as I do with the Wizard.
Really I just want an updated Wizard that natively has WM6 and VoIP & L2TP/IPSec work....
What are the best options?
Andy
(I asked a similar question in the General forum, but I think I might get more responses on here from people who have already taken the plunge...)
try the hermes and or kaizer
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try the hermes and or kaizer
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Does it have all the features I listed?
ADB100 said:
Does it have all the features I listed?
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yes its a upgrade from the Wizard 3G, faster processer, stock WM6 ect..
I don't think Dutty has confirmed this yet, probably waiting on my slow a$$, but for all of you using other ROM's because you use BBC & need to have multi-apn's so that you can continue running BBC & utilize your MediaNet, etc. data connections at the same time, come on over & check it out.
After digging thru a rom that allowed for using BBC at the same time as the primary data connection, analyzing hundreds upon hundreds of registry settings & files, I found a simple registry edit that allows for the use of multiple data seesions. Mt work was EASY! Then the magic man cooked it in & I can now tell you that Dutty's WM6.1 Hybrid ROM will allow you to use simultaneous data connections.
People that had this requirement before were limited on their rom selections. No longer is this the case, now you have a second choice! Dutty wm6.1 Hybrid!
Thanks Dutty for your Hard Work, the chance to help out, & a big thank you to Sleuth, for the key came from him, even if he doesn't know it!
BIS, BES, BBC users, give Dutty a try!!!! No longer will your BBC tunnel shut down to access the net!
Sweet. This doesn't affect me in any way. But I'm glad you figured it out. This will be much useful to the people who need it. Keep up the good work Gsleon!
Great work as usual!
...check your email, sent you a 6 pack... (don't ask about the name, it haunts me from my eBay days)
Yeah, what you said id definteliy valid because this is the first ROM where I was able to use activesyn and be connected to my pc, and use the wifi on the phone to connect to the internet. On other ROMS it always one or the other never both.
Thanks for the indo.
thats awesome! now i need to get a data package....lol
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I don't think Dutty has confirmed this yet, probably waiting on my slow a$$, but for all of you using other ROM's because you use BBC & need to have multi-apn's so that you can continue running BBC & utilize your MediaNet, etc. data connections at the same time, come on over & check it out.
After digging thru a rom that allowed for using BBC at the same time as the primary data connection, analyzing hundreds upon hundreds of registry settings & files, I found a simple registry edit that allows for the use of multiple data seesions. Mt work was EASY! Then the magic man cooked it in & I can now tell you that Dutty's WM6.1 Hybrid ROM will allow you to use simultaneous data connections.
People that had this requirement before were limited on their rom selections. No longer is this the case, now you have a second choice! Dutty wm6.1 Hybrid!
Thanks Dutty for your Hard Work, the chance to help out, & a big thank you to Sleuth, for the key came from him, even if he doesn't know it!
BIS, BES, BBC users, give Dutty a try!!!! No longer will your BBC tunnel shut down to access the net!
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Thanks friend almost forgot about that, great find I'm doing my last signature rom for now based on either 5.2.19209 or 5.219202 and will release the true mb pagepool guide with it.
thanks agian
umm whats a BBC (other than a british media network?)
thefunkygibbon said:
umm whats a BBC (other than a british media network?)
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Let's try Blackberry Connect.
Care to share the registry edit? I am running Dutty's ROM and I'll try the BBC but would like to know if I can use the registry edit with other ROMs as well.
Thanks
God bless DUTTY. But, what do you mean by BBC access, RSS? TV?
For those of you wondering what BBC (Blackberry Connect) is here is a light article explaining it.
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/04/23/blackberry-software-on-wm6/
-McMex
Yes, why not just post the registry edit so I don't have to re-flash my Kaiser... again.
-James
did anyone tried bbc with this rom under T-mobile UK network.
I find the reg setting went back after you restart ppc. and no longer working with multi APN.
can you tell me what the difference is between your reg tweak and turning both BBC and my Isp to always on? I have never had any issues using HTC roms but can't remember if I tried it on a carrior released rom...
bonyback said:
did anyone tried bbc with this rom under T-mobile UK network.
I find the reg setting went back after you restart ppc. and no longer working with multi APN.
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push again, any t-mobile uk bbc user here?
are you going to be releasing a modified cab or rom?
hi,
just saw this software that will be available for wm6.5.
its a voice activating software (sent texts, make calls etc with voice commands)
www.tellme.com
i think its a sub company of microsoft making it.
it says its going to be available through wm marketplace for wm6.5 phones, but cant see why it wont run on other wm OS's.
anyone got a beta of the software? or any other info
Nice site.. Lets wait and see how nice the program would be..
How it is different from MS Voice Command ?
bogdatov said:
How it is different from MS Voice Command ?
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you can search the net for items and places with a voice command (eg. starbucks or ipod etc)
u can also write texts and send them using your voice.
i think it is the evolution if the ms voice command software (microsoft trying to interwine software together and changing the name so that it seems like something fresh and new).
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How it is different from MS Voice Command ?
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Read the link it does all that and more.
Are MS ever going to release this then?
TellMe was (I believe) a separate company working on this snazzy voice control software, and I believe MS snatched them up to use as a replacement for MSVC going forward.
"Tellme" is certainly a snappier name than "Microsoft Voice Command." It actually looks like Tellme combines MSVC with the voice controls of the Bing app. I wonder how much overlap there will be.
Tell Me is part of the Samsung Intrepid WM 6.5 ROM. Would be great to be able to install that on my phone. Anyone up for the challenge?
hmmm would really like to install this... any1 with an interprid that would let someone here get the app. dont kno how its done but im sure the smart guys here do
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Tell Me is part of the Samsung Intrepid WM 6.5 ROM. Would be great to be able to install that on my phone. Anyone up for the challenge?
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Ditto.
Would love to get my hands on that cab.
TellMe
Tellme's primary business is in enterprise IVR systems and Voice enabled CRM and such. The TellMe Mobile apps including the WN6.5 client and the BB client as well at the 555-tell all agregate the voice samples collected during use to make the voice recognition part of their software more acurate and reduce the need for programming.
Seems pretty ingenious and gives Tellme a huge chance to be a great voice app unlike some apps that leave me screaming at my phone like some crazed person. While it again dials some completely random number from my phone book.
I hope that this exclusivity for the intrepid is short lived.
mrudzik said:
Tellme's primary business is in enterprise IVR systems and Voice enabled CRM and such. The TellMe Mobile apps including the WN6.5 client and the BB client as well at the 555-tell all agregate the voice samples collected during use to make the voice recognition part of their software more acurate and reduce the need for programming.
Seems pretty ingenious and gives Tellme a huge chance to be a great voice app unlike some apps that leave me screaming at my phone like some crazed person. While it again dials some completely random number from my phone book.
I hope that this exclusivity for the intrepid is short lived.
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So, do you have a link for the cab or not?
Hamidxa said:
So, do you have a link for the cab or not?
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Dont I wish....so for just reading the site abunch goping for someone with access to the right phone.
on a seperate note all these exlusive deals tick me off. They should just post the app in marketplace and be done with it.
All we need is a ROM dump from the interpid, and we should be able to pull it out and create a cab. However, the phone isn't available yet so we will have to wait a bit longer.
Someone with a Samsung Intrepid needs to port it for us.
yes please
You can get it now, well according to their site, however Im in the uk and thus I dont think i will work for me!....
http://www.tellme.com/you/get
How frickin' insulting!!! Right now, on AT&T, T-Mobile & Verizon it's only available on Blackberry devices! And on Sprint, it's all Blackberry except for one WM device - the Intrepid!
WTF, Microsoft?!
Package here.It doesn't understand a touch screen, but it seems to work.
Hey guys, since I'm such a 1337 H4x0r I managed reverse engineer the installer from PPCGeeks to find out where the installer got the .cab from. Well, it paid off and I found the .cab straight from the site, and you can download it from: http://m.tellme.com/windows_mobile/TellmeSamsungIntrepid3515.cab. It still doesn't work on my Rhodium, but I figured I'd post this anyway, so you don't have to go to download from PPCGeeks or if you wanted a .cab file instead of the installer.