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Which XDA???

(woo first post ^_^)
So.. umm yeah i expect there are a thousand of these posts around here and you're all fed up with talking about them. But i need to ask you people this...
XDA Mini S (i think this one is the "wizard" right?) or XDA Atom???
Simple issue here... i like the idea of the keyboard on the XDA Mini S, but im not sure if the processor is going to be up to scratch.
And i like the fact the atom has more processing power and a 2MPixel camera (but thats really not that important to me).
So... What would you suggest?
caff.

I suggest waiting for the HTC HErmes. It's got what you want in terms of processor and also keyboard

ahh, i wish but no sorry.. im stuck with xda's as its an upgrade from o2 im getting.
if the processor in the xda mini s is good enough for pretty much everything then ill get that
caff.

No, but presumably O2 would launch something like Xda Mini S2

... and you can always port your number. At the moment T-Mobile look well ahead with their tarrifs.

caff said:
ahh, i wish but no sorry.. im stuck with xda's as its an upgrade from o2 im getting.
if the processor in the xda mini s is good enough for pretty much everything then ill get that
caff.
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I have seen no problem with the O2 mini S processor speed. You have to remember that the processor speed looks slow, but in reality you are not comparing like with like, this is a Texas Instruments chip, with a different command set to other chips you are comparing it with.
I can run all the applications that I want, TomTom for example funs faster on here than on my Dell X5 (400 Mhz).
The one thing you have to remember is that you are not running a Pentium4 3Ghz 2Gig RAM 250Gb Hard drive machine, but a PDA with phone capabilities.
For me, its all I want in a phone/PDA I would not be without mine now.

raymondu999 said:
I suggest waiting for the HTC HErmes. It's got what you want in terms of processor and also keyboard
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I have a Universal, and a colleague just got one of the new JAM's this week (not the Hermes itself obviously), and I have to say, it makes me kinda want the same form factor again.
Sure I love the laptop type clamshell of the Universal, but usually end up holding the thing flat anyhow when the keyboard is out.
I like the protection a clamshell provides, but I can buy a case.
I like the SD card, but I don't swap my SD with my camera any more, and you can get 1GB Micro SD cards today.
I like the VGA screen, but I wonder if 640x480 is one reason why some map progs seem a bit more sluggish compared to my old slower-processored JAM?
Now that I can get a JAM-sized phone/PDA with 3G, I'm definitely buying the Hermes from T-Mobile when they release it in June as the MDA Vario II.

yeah bilbo i thinik your right, its all to do with comparisons.
but im pretty sure the omap 850 chip has a better cache then the intel chips in the xda IIi. So i think it will probably be ok
if no-one has any major objections i think im going to go for the xda mini s... that is unless the o2 shop guy turns around and tells me something new is coming out in a month hehe.
thanks all
caff.

caff said:
if no-one has any major objections i think im going to go for the xda mini s... that is unless the o2 shop guy turns around and tells me something new is coming out in a month hehe.
thanks all
caff.
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One thing to remember when you go to the O2 Shop is that they will charge you £79.99 for the phone on a contract that is less than £45 per month...... unless you ask then not to.
I got my XDA-mini-S soon after they came out. I went to the O2 Shop, looked interested until the guy said there was a charge. After very little he said that to get me on board an O2 tariff he would drop the charge.
Remeber they can and will drop the charge, if not go to walk out and see what they say.
Good luck

raymondu999 said:
I suggest waiting for the HTC HErmes. It's got what you want in terms of processor and also keyboard
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Looking at the info on the Hermes, I think it has the same 416Mhz IntelXscale processor that my Dell X5 had 5 years go?
Bigger numbers dont mean faster applications.

bilbo_28 said:
Looking at the info on the Hermes, I think it has the same 416Mhz IntelXscale processor that my Dell X5 had 5 years go?
Bigger numbers dont mean faster applications.
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I think it has a 300MHz Samsung? But you're right - "Bigger numbers dont mean faster applications", which is why I'm not worried about it's 300MHz.

bilbo_28 said:
caff said:
if no-one has any major objections i think im going to go for the xda mini s... that is unless the o2 shop guy turns around and tells me something new is coming out in a month hehe.
thanks all
caff.
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One thing to remember when you go to the O2 Shop is that they will charge you £79.99 for the phone on a contract that is less than £45 per month...... unless you ask then not to.
I got my XDA-mini-S soon after they came out. I went to the O2 Shop, looked interested until the guy said there was a charge. After very little he said that to get me on board an O2 tariff he would drop the charge.
Remeber they can and will drop the charge, if not go to walk out and see what they say.
Good luck
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Good advice, thanks
ill be going in on wednesday to purchase it, so ill let you all know how it goes
caff.

One thing that no one seems to mention is the screen. The atom has an 18 bit screen and that can give a hit on performance for graphic intensive programs. The transfer of those 18 bits as oppsed to the 16 in most other ppc is ineficient and for games = bad.

X7510 available at Expansys USA on June 10 & at On The Go Solutions on June 5

HTC Advantage X7510 Available at Expansys USA on June 10 for $1284.95 http://www.expansys-usa.com/p.aspx?i=165227
It says SPANISH...I am not sure if they meant the OS...
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Available on June 5 at On The Go Solutions for $1300: http://www.onthegosolutions.com/product.asp?itemMDL=HTC_X7510
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Wow...just wow. There is no way i would pay an extra $600 - $800 for the x7510, when there are so many new, used and refurbished X7501s, X7500s and U1000s floating around the market. Is the extra memory, camera, and new OS worth that much? Not imo. I guess some folks wont care about price or the loss of the extra hardware buttons. Oh well, to each his own.

x7510
Wait for another month, there is a new model coming out... u will be impressed. Save the money for that model. Don't ask me what it is as I can't say

greatestkelvin said:
Wait for another month, there is a new model coming out... u will be impressed. Save the money for that model. Don't ask me what it is as I can't say
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how reliable is this news? I hope they put back the navigator stick. Is it a redesign because if it does not have the processor speed of at least 600 then its not worth waiting.
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greatestkelvin said:
Wait for another month, there is a new model coming out... u will be impressed. Save the money for that model. Don't ask me what it is as I can't say
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I think this is what you are referring to: http://www.gsmhelpdesk.nl/en/read.php?id=2918&ch=1
the HTC Raphael, yes I already considered that, but it is only tri band GSM, only 520 MHz, the screen is smaller compared to the Advantage, only has 512 MB extra memory. So the Advantage still has the advantage in all aspect except size and pocketability. The only thing that it has new is the FM radio, but that can be covered up by 3rd party softwares, so nothing to get too excited about.
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cktlcmd said:
. So the Advantage still has the advantage in all aspect except size and pocketability.
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Err, it should be "So the Advantage still had the advantage in all aspect INCLUDING better size"

eaglesteve said:
Err, it should be "So the Advantage still had the advantage in all aspect INCLUDING better size"
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oooooppppsss, I stand corrected... this is what I hate the most... the long wait... ahhhhhh... it's driving me nuts.
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Touch Diamond / Touch Pro

"TOUCH PRO" "TOUCH PRO""TOUCH PRO""TOUCH PRO""TOUCH PRO""TOUCH PRO"
my brain is now doing overtime........
When is HTC gonna give us break?
for the last few months i have been waiting with patients for my Diamond upgrade,
Now reading the Diamond posts and checking out
http://www.htc.com/www/default.aspx
i found out that the so called "TOUCH PRO" IS ON ITS WAY GRRRR!!!!!
What does 1 do????
wait again for it to come out,
which by dat time HTC will most probably bring out the "HTC TOUCH PRO DIAMOND ULTIMATE THINGY" or something....
here we go again.......
My advice dont get the 1st batch wait a little longer and you still wont be happy or have wot you wanted in the fist place...
"that didnt make sense see wot its doing to me"
I will do wot HTC wants:
Diamond 1st then wait for the Touch Pro....
So they can sell the same product again & again & again with suttle changes and a shiny new look....like every other company...
Lets have your comments or advice.....

Forget the Diamond - wait for the Pro.

TheBrit said:
Forget the Diamond - wait for the Pro.
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when's it out though, and what century will it be on orange? i'm nearly tempted to go and get a iphone 16gig.

frustin said:
i'm nearly tempted to go and get a iphone 16gig.
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Bite your tongue man!!

In IT, there is always something bigger and better just around the corner, you just have to decide when your going to bite the bullet and buy a phone.
HTC will soon make something better than the Pro, do you wait for that?

Diamond Pro for me

pro for me
i hope tmobile usa will get the pro by years end .... i like the diamond but the pro is the icing on the cake.... found out that tombile uk is getting one of them soon think its the diamond

I must admit that I'm getting tempted by the Diamond. Rumours are that it will be out on Orange in a few days. Still no word on the Pro.

Play.com say they're going to have them on 29 of August for £549.99
http://www.trustedreviews.com/mobile-devices/news/2008/07/03/HTC-Touch-Pro-Sim-Free-Priced-Dated/p1
Better start saving up!

expansys have the diamond in stock for around £400 ish, TBH HTC is not that pad, the Pro is essentially the long awaited successor to the Universal, there has been nothing pocetable with a
VGA screen
Fold out Keyboard
and up to date spec like in built GPS and HSDPA
since the Uni in 2005

ice_coffee said:
expansys have the diamond in stock for around £400 ish, TBH HTC is not that pad, the Pro is essentially the long awaited successor to the Universal, there has been nothing pocetable with a
VGA screen
Fold out Keyboard
and up to date spec like in built GPS and HSDPA
since the Uni in 2005
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The Universal isn't the most pocketable of devices... And there have been offerings from other companies (Toshiba G9XX anyone?), but the Raphael is probably the best yet!

lol i guess i must have big pockets, the uni was an excellent device in its time, and whilst there have been offerings from other manufacturers, I was talking about HTC

the only issue with either of these phones with me is that they are both only triband... i need quad..if it wasnt for that I would jump all over either one really.

From what I have been reading, wait for the Pro.. I am

l3v5y said:
The Universal isn't the most pocketable of devices... And there have been offerings from other companies (Toshiba G9XX anyone?), but the Raphael is probably the best yet!
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G900, i have one and its higher res than the universal and roughly the same size as the TyTN
800x480. However, res aint everything. I am now downgrading on screen real-estate to an Omni because, whats the point in having a tv that will do 1080p but is only 32inch? There ain't none. I now question 640x480. It's all very well having sharpness but, on 2./3.2inch screens, that are essentialy phones, does it make any practical diference? I'm sure there are people who watch movies on there phones but no one can honestly say they are any good at this - yea, yeah, it will play and you can watch it but, come on, its rubbish quality compared to pmp's.

I spoke to orange cs today regarding the Diamond they said if HTC dont change their mind
it shoud be out by the middle of this month @ the latest.....
I've made my mind up im getting it... "THE HTC DIAMOND"
and i cant wait.
The last time i upgraded it became a 12 month contract in stead of 18 so it aint so bad....
""" if i hear that THE PRO wont be delayed much longer i just mite consider waiting"""
i got my ELF as soon as it was released & within a month they released the Vogue & the Nike...
I was gutted but then when i found out that the Nike aint got WiFi,smaller screen and a slide out keyboard that aint much help etc etc etc...i was smiling again (-)
but as 1 of you said ""DO YOU JUST KEEP WAITING AND NEVER HAVE WHAT YOU WANT""
I want 1 & i want it now.....
I cant believe how many ppl have viewed my post looks like its gonna go a long way.............keep em cumming......

Whats the difference
Between the Dimond and the Pro, is it just the keyboard or something else ?

obsydian said:
Between the Dimond and the Pro, is it just the keyboard or something else ?
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The Raphael also has 64MB extra RAM, and a MicroSD slot, but loses the 4GB internal memory...

l3v5y said:
The Raphael also has 64MB extra RAM, and a MicroSD slot, but loses the 4GB internal memory...
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Thanks, no doubt its thicker as well, one of the reasons I sold my Kaiser and kept the Niki !!!

I have a few questions that I'm sure one of you all have the answer to. I am in dire need of a new phone, currently using a pos Treo 750. I am stuck between the Xperia and the Touch Pro as most are. Will the Touch Pro work on the T-mobile USA network? Do I have to wait for a US release of the phone or can I purchase one overseas to use thats unlocked? Sorry for all the question but I'm kinda new to all this.

My HTC touch pro :: pick it up tomorrow yay

As the title says, im all excited , HTC touch pro, original unlocked, brand new. Tmobile contract £35 a month 700 mins, unlimited texts and 1gb a month internet.
Canni wait !

Well,...I'm excited with ya then!
I'm gonna pick up my brand new touch pro saturday!
I've got a contract with the provider KPN (holland)
Got already an 8 GB sdHC card.....
AND offcourse I've read allll about the raphael on this forum...

Im buying an 8GB SDHC card tomorrow, have IGO8 ready to go on it, and some lovely expensive headphones.

modd1uk said:
lovely expensive headphones.
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Care to specialize which ones?

howd you get this phone on that contract?

expansys

I was going to go for that contract , but t-mobile used to be terrible in Bristol , so i'm not sure if it's any better now ..

found it now....http://www.expansys.com/d.aspx?i=171303
i need to wait for phones4u to bring it out so they can buy out the remainder of my contract!

Thats the one buddy, im overly impressed with it. As it only comes with a standard headset i bought...
http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=150195
Then these razer headphones ( excellent headphones, cant hear anything else when they are in..perfect for the bike )
http://scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductId=486536
And an 8GB card
http://scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductId=847397
All in all an excellent combination, i just wish there was a bug free app that locks the screen when in pocket
So glad i got the actual HTC handset and not some operator branded rubbish * cough vario 4 *

yeah i hate it when the networks put their logos and software all over it.
I am torn between the Touch Pro and the Xperia X1.
I am leaning towards the X1 becuse of the larger screen.
The main reason for getting a new phone is to use the internet more, so i figured a better screen would help me!

can anyone tell me when this comes out for ATT and when i cant wait to get it.....thanks please please please im soooo excited

I'm with you guys... mine arrives on tuesday, ordered today once i knew they'd arrive... booyah! Now to get rid of the tytn ii and the wizard... it was a good run

rico002 said:
can anyone tell me when this comes out for ATT and when i cant wait to get it.....thanks please please please im soooo excited
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So far....it's set to launch on Sep 29th. No delays so far

Hows your phone , and hows t-mobile ??? i might get this aswell

got mine with abbo 14,50€ 150 minutes a month and internet 4,95€ a month..
12gb is working also

Jonny_doe said:
Hows your phone , and hows t-mobile ??? i might get this aswell
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Working spot on buddy, few reg tweeks ( see tweek thread ), sensorlock, core player etc etc and im loving it !

Which phone ...

Ok, so I have a decision to make, and only till Wednesday to make it ...
Currently, I have the Palm Treo Pro. It's a GOOD phone, I LOVE the keyboard and I love how small/light it is. I DO NOT like the proprietary USB of the "end" key as its uber sensitive. Also, most of my programs don't work on the screen (OliveTree Bible, Mud Inc. Pocket Cribbage, and Handmark Monopoly V1) ... so my other options are
HTC Diamond - I get $ back, but, I lose microSD Card or HTC Pro, I pay around $100 more, but I get the microSD Card slot and sliding keyboard.
WiFi is important, and I should point out, I am on the TELUS Network.

HTC touch Pro 2
There are many same subject threads on XDA with further information....

galaxys said:
HTC touch Pro 2
There are many same subject threads on XDA with further information....
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hmmm TP2 ain't on Telus ... not yet ... not till the end of '09 / early '10 when they turn on their UMTS/HSPA

kepp this phone until tocu pro 2 comes out

One more for TP2
Is not the "Perfecrt" device but is one of the best candidates available

THIS IS NOT THE TOUCH PRO 2! This is the Touch Pro. Version 1. Telus Mobility DOES NOT HAVE TP2 yet and won't till probably December or January ...

I think they're all recommending that you wait for the TP2, they understand that you're talking about the TP1. I well third and fourth that notion. If you can wait for the TP2, it'll be well worth it. You'll probably have to pay quite a bit of money without a contract.
However, to answer your question, i'd definitely go with the TP over the Diamond.

_Allan_ said:
THIS IS NOT THE TOUCH PRO 2! This is the Touch Pro. Version 1. Telus Mobility DOES NOT HAVE TP2 yet and won't till probably December or January ...
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On thatcase just erase the 2, I´ll go for TP!
kareem9nba said:
I think they're all recommending that you wait for the TP2, they understand that you're talking about the TP1. I well third and fourth that notion. If you can wait for the TP2, it'll be well worth it. You'll probably have to pay quite a bit of money without a contract.
However, to answer your question, i'd definitely go with the TP over the Diamond.
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You are right mate

kareem9nba said:
I think they're all recommending that you wait for the TP2, they understand that you're talking about the TP1. I well third and fourth that notion. If you can wait for the TP2, it'll be well worth it. You'll probably have to pay quite a bit of money without a contract.
However, to answer your question, i'd definitely go with the TP over the Diamond.
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I can't wait 14-18 months for the TP2 (which is about how long Telus will take to get it *L* as they have ONLY had the Treo Pro for about a month!) ... I think I'll go on Wednesday and get the Touch Pro.

Then why don't U buy it unlocked from another country next month

Because Telus is CDMA but soon (2010) to be UMTS/HSPA

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hmmm TP2 ain't on Telus ... not yet ... not till the end of '09 / early '10 when they turn on their UMTS/HSPA
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Where on Earth do you live???? Sahara??? Middle of the Atlantic ocean?
Ok some usefull info for you:
Diamond - has serious heat issues and its very well know to fry its own screen. HTC are constantly fighting people and refusing to repair faulty units. I owned one and then returned it as it could also not play music without jumping/skipping. Both these issues can be easily found by going to the Diamond section of these forums.
TouchPro - (not the TP2 as everyone else seems to have got confused over) Never owned one so comments are limited to what can be read on this forum but, I miss having a keyboard and am now ordering an Asus on Monday that has a keyboard. Typing an email on the Diamond was a pain in the a*&e and its only marginaly easier on the bigger screen of my Omnia.
Palm thingy - never owned one, never used one. Can't comment.
If I HAD to chose between these then in all honesty, i'd probably keep the Palm! Why? HTC build quality sucks donkey balls. Its a well known and easily googled reputation. Its a shame really as they spec out the phones very well and seem to have every intention of making excellent devices, just somewhere the penny pinchers seem to take control and quality drops.
Best of luck with whatever you chose today
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Diamond overheat issue - dont think anymore needs to be said on this
Music link - with $125 reward for fix
Music link - check out how many pages!
And just for good measure, another music link
Very quick google brings up over 32000 hits on hardware quality

galaxys said:
Then why don't U buy it unlocked from another country next month
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Maybe the guy doesn't have/want to spend hundreds of £/€/$ on a phone?

OK so ... I was downtown yesterday, getting my Security Guard License and walked through Toronto Eaton Centre ... and I picked up the Touch Pro.
So far, I'm happy. I'm still testing things out and seeing what is good etc but ALL my games work, all my programs work AS THEY ARE SUPPOSED to, and I'm happy ...

Monty Burns said:
Maybe the guy doesn't have/want to spend hundreds of £/€/$ on a phone?
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Especially a phone that only does 3G at 2100MHz to use in a country that uses 850/1900.