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Don't know if anyone else here has tried this workaround at all?
Using the remove programs in settings or activesync, remove Tomtom Bluetooth GPS Support (or whatever it's called).
Instead of setting up TT5 to use "Other Bluetooth GPS", set it up to use "Other Cable NMEA GPS".
Set the GPS Baud rate to 9600 or 19200 (both work fine for me).
Then set the COM port to "Bluetooth Serial Port COM6:" (or whatever your outgoing port number is for your BT GPS device.
The only downside is that you have to turn BT on manually before you start TT5 but it doesn't disconnect BT when it exits.
Used this setting on 3 different roads which lately caused me no end of lock-ups and not once has it happened. I think the problem is with Tomtoms bluetooth support drivers, constant problems with them since TT3.
I've only used this for 3 days and 400 miles but everything seems to be fine up to now, including traffic...........we'll see.
TT5
Did your TT5 load onto the XDA with no problems?
I have an XDA IIi and it loaded on no problems at all.
I have an XDA IIi and it loaded on no problems at all.
Great suggestion. I was getting really fed-up with TT5 and about to give up on it. Just back from France/Switzerland where it kept freezing, useless.
Simply uninstalled the TT GPS Support as suggested and used the existing BT Partnership with the TT Receiver and hey presto ... TT running smoothly again, shame I'm back in the UK on roads I know!
Does not work for me. But well worth a try.
This is doing my head in now £200 worth of TomTom software and dongle and unusable with the phone on!
arh help please
I have a problem with my XDA11 whilst trying to upgrade my navigator 3 software to navigator 5......
After I load the main program upgrade and then try to install the map disc one my pc ( desk top XP Profesional os ) it come up with tempory folder full, does'nt say if it it the pc or the xda11.
I have gone into all the temp folders on the pc and emptied them and it had not resolved the problem and I cant find any in the search function on the XDA
Any ideas??
Its a genuine copy of the Tom Tom software as well and there are no contact details on there sites including e-mail links
Regards Lee
there are known issues with Bluetooth device support using TomTom5, i was advised to use the 'Other Cable NMEA GPS' option when connecting a non TomTom bluetooth GPS unit.
also, i connected at the baud rate recommended by the manufacturer which i think was 9600, this worked fine without removing any parts of the software but meant manual switch off of Bluetooth in my MDA after use.
in addition to this, the Bluetooth connection issues with non TomTom GPS units should be resolved in the 5.10 upgrade, just installed it and re-paired an MDA3 to the Globalsat GPS receiver...it now auto switches off Bluetooth after use and the connection can be made using 'Other Bluetooth Receiver'.
another bonus of the 5.10 update is the keyboard shows on the display without having to use the hardware keyboard on the MDA...lovely.
for more info:
How to manually configure TomTom NAVIGATOR 5 for Bluetooth GPS receivers.
answer to last question about free memory during install problem can be found here:
When I install the TomTom NAVIGATOR 5 Upgrade the following error occurs: - Not enough free space occurs on temporary folder. Cannot run Setup
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Thanks for the link dont know how I missed that....
Only problem now is when I tap Start etc there is no Run command to enter the %......% command line
I tried the search in explorer option with no results any ideas?
Sorry I'm not the brightest lamp on the planet
you are tapping Start on your PC right?
maybe the 'Run' command has been disabled or does not appear in your Start menu because it's been disabled.
are you the Administrator of your PC? are you running XP?
you may have to go into 'Control Panel', 'Taskbar and Start Menu', Start Menu tab and choose 'Classic Start menu'
trying to cover as many bases here so you can make some headway without too much back an forth as i'm signing off now....if you can get to the 'Run' command on your PC then you'll be able to solve the problem and proceed with the fix from the TomTom site.
good luck.
I have had so much trouble with satnav on pda's, especially with bluetooth that although I have xda 1 with wired gps and spv M1000 with bluetooth gps I have just boght a Mitac Mio 269 dedicated gps system. It has a 2.5 gb hard drive, 500 megs for mp3, the whole of europe, which is millions of miles, preinstalled on the system. Comes with remote and different mounts and has sd card expansion. Obviously it isnt any good for phone calls or word processing etc but it gives me peace of mind when travelling as I have zero sense of direction and very little patience. I still leave my other gps in the car though, as a backup. :shock:
I have had so much triouble with satnav on pda's, especially with bluetooth that although I have xda 1 with wired gps and spv M1000 with bluetooth gps I have just boght a Mitac Mio 269 dedicated gps system. It has a 2.5 gb hard drive, 500 megs for mp3, the whole of europe, which is millions of miles, preinstalled on the system. Comes with remote and different mounts and has sd card expansion. Obviously it isnt any good for phone calls or word processing etc but it gives me peace of mind when travelling as I have zero sense of direction and very little patience. I still leave my other gps in the car though, as a backup. :shock:
Thanks
Decoy-7
Many thanks I told you I wasn't to bright you hit the nail on the head with the ( PC comment ) I was looking for the run command on the XDA11...
deleted the exe and evrything is loading up as we speak....
thanks again for your patientence....
Crusin-thru' I can see why you have gone your route its a lot less trouble I just use mine now as a back up phone because I spend a lot of time away from home and just simply use a Nokia 6680 on 3G.....
Also since I stopped using the XDA11 as a phone the pda doesn't keep resetting itself every ten minutes like it did!!
cash_13,
it happens to the best of us...had to think about it myself, instructions on the TomTom site could have been more specific saving many people a lot of time...but you dont always realise this until you have to follow the instructions yourself....glad you got it sorted now.
Hi there, I have an XDA2 and a bluetooth gps reciever I bought off ebay.
I loaded tomtom software but do not know how to connect the gps to the tomtom software.
Please help step by step.
Cheers!
Please,,,, I really dont get it.
I have bonded them but then i go into tomtom and tell it I have a bluetooth reciever and it comes up with loads of things saying like com4, com5 etc...
Heya
First step is to pair the GPS and Phone. This is done in the usual way. Once you have set this up once you will only need to "start the device" in Bluetooth manager.
Second. Go into Tom Tom, which if its anything like mine, will take maybe 20seconds to start and appear to of done nothing.
Change Preferences->
Show GPS Device->
(assuming its not showing) Configure->
Select "Bluetooth GPS" by scrolling through the options
You will then be asked to select your "Bluetooth Serial Port...." This is where you will need to play a bit and get the right one. I only have two listed so it only took me a few minutes but, be patient with it .... it may take a minute or two to start pulling in data.
Hope this helps and good luck!
I also run TT5 and a Bluetooth GPS (GlobalSat BT388) and I can never get the damn things to sconnect using the Bluetooth setting.
This is the way I sorted it:
1) use Bluetooth Manager to 'discover' your BT device (the GPS)
2) Pair your Device in Bluetooth Manager.
3) Start TomTom (ideally updated to 5.1 or 5.21), select Prefs...GPS Device...Configure and select "Other Serial" and NOT Bluetooth.
4) now select the Bluetooth port (try com6 first, then com5 if offered, you should be able to spot the GPS in the list) I find 3800 baud speed works perfectly for me.
You know you've struck gold when the little wheel starts spinning (it helps to have got a lock with the GPS as this is set up) so if no joy after 15 seconds, select configure again & have another try with a different "Other Serial" port (there should be TWO BT serial ports in the list)
once this is set and it's receiving GPS info, click done and go back to the main Nav screen
Rest awhile & bask in the glory of now knowing yr position 8)
Finally, Exit the program in the normal way, give the PDA a couple of seconds, then start it up again, after it loads it WILL say "No GPS Device!" - DONT PANIC...after a short delay (10-30 seconds depending on the speed of yr device) it should automatically connect to the GPS)
Hope this helps - Joe
P.S. I have to turn my Bluetooth ON before starting TT5, as it doesnt seem to do this automatically like with my old FSC600, but I believe there are BT programs out there that can automatically do that, but seems a lot of extra stuff for what is, after all, two stylus taps from the Today screen! - JP
if you updat eto the lastest version then you can use other bluetooth if not id use other wired also if an xda2 and not an i then have a look at pocket bluetooth tool this will change the comport to com 7 if memory serves correct
Still wont connect, am clicking on all the comms......
I have just got a Wizard off ebay running WM6 which has TomTom6 installed. I have a generic bluetooth GPS receiver which works fine the first time I use it after pairing, but then as soon as the device is turned off via the softoff switch, it is not seen again. I have to remove the Bluetooth connection and port, then re-add it all. Once I repeat the process, it works find again until the next time it is turned off.
I have tried this with 2 different bluetooth gps units, both of which work fine for my friends so I suspect it is something wrong with either the Wizard or a setting somewhere.
I am new to all this so dont know what information I should post to help get advice but can provide any info you guys need.
Can anyone offer me and suggestions or pointers ?
after wake up, launch tomtom, but leave it for say 20 secs it should eventually pick it up, it just takes time
Hello,
I have the same problem.
GPS pairing + COM config OK.
Then I start TOMTOM 6 and all is working fine.
Now if I switch off my GPS, and leave Tomtom, then switch on my GPS and start TOMTOM, I have a message telling me my GPS wants to connect to my wizard. So I must redo the pairing (code 0000) + the com port configuration.
I have this problem since WM6 (I tried mUn, XPlore 1.0, 1.1, Core 2.0x, and now i'm with XM6).
No problem under WM5.
GPS is XLock256 (sold by Orange in France).
Anybody know what is happening ?
Thanks.
TomTom
Install TomTom, or if it's installed all is ok.
unpair your GPS unit.
Reset the GPS unit with the power button (normally by holding it)
Now Pair the GPS Device.
go to com Ports, and add a outgoing Port (Whatever port is available, me somehow I'm hooked to 7)
Now start TomTom
go to settings, GPS Config and choose other Bluetooth GPS (now wait)
Switch of and on again your GPS receiver, because it could be in a powersave mode, but still do it.
Choose your chosen port (me as said 7)
.......patience, now it should connect
Now it should be ok.
Play with it for a while, and close the app in it's specified way.
Now it should start as normal.
If you follow these instructions to the letter it works.
I don't see what I missed before, but apllying your procedure solved the problem.
Thanks a lot for your help.
paudib said:
I don't see what I missed before, but apllying your procedure solved the problem.
Thanks a lot for your help.
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Normally it's the Auto Powersave which causes the problems, 1 year ago it took me 6 weeks to figure this out.
I'm having the exact same problem since upgrading to WM6 and despite following these instructions numerous times, every time I relaunch TomTom I get a prompt asking if I want to pair my GPS. If I select no, I get prompetd about every 5 seconds until I select yes at which point my existing pairing is deleted and a new one created. This pairing then lasts for the current TomTom session but the cycle restarts all over again when I relaunch TomTom and turn on my GPS again.
WM5 was completely flawless with the way it handled my GPS connection so what is different that is causing this behaviour?
BLUE Angel on WM6 tomtom6 BG001 GPS issue
Followed your procedure, got the connection set. Thanks loads, I was tearing my hair out. lj
Have just installed WM6 (JW 2.02.02 WWE) and everything appears to be fine except for the BT com port in TomTom Nav5. Have paired the BT GPS, set the outgoing port (COM0) but it doesn't appear in the list of ports available in TomTom.
Is this a known issue or have I got to set something else? Have also tried the External GPS manager in 'Settings' but that port doesn't show either.
Sheepdip said:
Have just installed WM6 (JW 2.02.02 WWE) and everything appears to be fine except for the BT com port in TomTom Nav5. Have paired the BT GPS, set the outgoing port (COM0) but it doesn't appear in the list of ports available in TomTom.
Is this a known issue or have I got to set something else? Have also tried the External GPS manager in 'Settings' but that port doesn't show either.
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I've had the same problem.
What I've done about this, is I've added a Serial port profile for the GPS device. Then went into TomTom and the port was in the list. This port has worked fine.
Tried setting External GPS in the Settings/Connections, to share it, well - TOUGH, does not work.
So I have a working TomTom and I gave up for now about the sharing stuff...
Try setting port 8.
I'm not interested in sharing it (at the moment).
Can you explain what you mean by 'added a serial port profile'?
I've set up an outgoing com port in settings > bluetooth > COM ports but it's not seen by TomTom
tyl said:
Try setting port 8.
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I must have tried all the ports that were available but none of them show. All I get is the standard TomTom list: -
QCT Data Interface
Serial Cable on COM1
COM7
RIL on COM6
Infrared Port
Ir on COM3
and of course non of those work either.
Sheepdip said:
I must have tried all the ports that were available but none of them show. All I get is the standard TomTom list: -
QCT Data Interface
Serial Cable on COM1
COM7
RIL on COM6
Infrared Port
Ir on COM3
and of course non of those work either.
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Exactly where you wrote it, in COM ports.
Then I've selected "Other Bluetooth GPS receiver" as receiver type in TomTom 6, and here's what I have:
COM5:
QCT Data Interface
Serial Cable on COM1:
COM7:
RIL on COM6:
Infrared Port
Ir on COM3:
COM4:
COM5 is my attempt to share GPS which is failing so far, so disregard it for here (but I'll try COM8 later). COM4 is the Outgoing Bluetooth port and that's the one I selected.
I must admit that I honestly don't understand why this setup works for me. I expected to put Incoming port number (a common for all devices) there, but obviously didn't have it.
Hmmm, that's strange. What you have is exactly what I used to get in WM5 but it doesn't seem to work in WM6? I'm also on TT5 so that may be an issue?
From what I can see, the 'QTC Data Interface' is the GPS sharing port and is actually COM9, installed by the OS. But it doesn't work!
Frustrating............!
I'm also getting tons of memory leak by the looks of it.
SORTED!
Feel a bit stoopid. Checked the version of TT5 and it showed 5.0. Upgraded to 5.21 (which is what I thought I installed) and bingo! Com port shows and works.
Thanks to all who made suggestions.
Sheepdip said:
Feel a bit stoopid. Checked the version of TT5 and it showed 5.0. Upgraded to 5.21 (which is what I thought I installed) and bingo! Com port shows and works.
Thanks to all who made suggestions.
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Man, my TomTom is version 6.010.
Just in case, it's available.
put in External GPS the program port on 8.
then you will see com 8 in TomTom.
connect it in TomTom and after that change the program port back to none and hardware port on 8.
problem solved.
I've had this problem on a Mini S, Exec, Vario II.
Some times just removing TomTom and re-installing it seems to work. On several occasions the correct COM port shows up in TomTom. I honestly don't know why. It seems a bit random.
Airax said:
I've had this problem on a Mini S, Exec, Vario II.
Some times just removing TomTom and re-installing it seems to work. On several occasions the correct COM port shows up in TomTom. I honestly don't know why. It seems a bit random.
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I have seen some recommendation to not select Bluetooth receiver. I don't know, I thought it would be un-cool So I made it work with Bluetooth receiver.
EastExpert said:
Man, my TomTom is version 6.010.
Just in case, it's available.
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I know, but the old TT5 maps won't work with 6 and I've got quite a few that don't come with the Europe disk.
solution to tt gps connection problems
hi everyone with this problem,
no matter what your setup is vario, xda, dell, tt5 or tt6, tomtom gps or other GPS try this method (it does bloody work) :
STEP 1 : INSTALL TOMTOM5 OR TT6
You do this by copying the CAB files from the CDROM using JasJar or using SD card o any other way
STEP 2 : UPGRADE (THIS IS NOT ESSENTIAL, ONLY DO IT IF YOU HAVE A NON-HOKY COPY OF TT)
http://www.htcclub.net/storage/ppcupd510.rar
or just overwrite patched version of main executable file over original
also having this install on some vario 2 may also help BTHTools1100.
STEP 3 : ACTIVATE THE GPS CONTROL PANEL
this is hidden option but if you use this wisely you will take control over your GPS but in many cases this is reson why tt sometimes works sometimes doesn't.
Fire up a registry editor (eg http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/phmregistryeditor.shtml )
Go to: HKEY_LOCAL_MASCHINE\ControlPanel\GPS Settings
Delete the DWORD marked "hide"
Add a DWORD called "Group" and give it the value of "2" (dec)
The GPS panel will now show up in your connection settings.
STEP 4 : INSTALL TOMTOM
1. Establish a bond with your GPS and select the checkbox for serial access.
2. In BT, select the OUTGOING port to 8. (optional: make it non secure if available)
3. In the GPS control panel, select the GPS program to 0 and make sure that the hardware one, is set to None, also you should pay attention to 3 tab and allow windows to manage it - for now, you don't really want Bill managing things as it is recipe for disaster.
4. Start TT and the GPS settings, select another bluetooth GPS, and you will see COM 0 free. Select COM 0 and close TT5. (if you don't get the port go back one step and check 3 tab)
5. At the GPS control panel again, now select COM 8 (before we set it up at 0).
6. At BT: select OUTGOING port to 0.
7. Back again to GPS control panel and select NONE.(and now is the right time untick 3 tab option and stop auto managing)
8. Finally start TT and it should connect automatically. Wait for a couple of seconds and click the GPS settings and you should see it has connected.
Congratulations
well, in case something didn't go well start from scratch - reset your software restore your registry and reinstall as much as you can get back to factory defaults using hard reset and etc.
I know this is is in bits available elsewhere but this is more complete and little bit more up to date, but there is still hundreds of people looking for this.
THE SUMMARY
I've spent many many days looking for solutions, registry and web and all sort of tools to solve this, but this method works the treat - and it does make perfect sense - I suspect the reason why this is such a problem is timeout. windows is not a good platform - and it is locked by ms and all sorts of legacy issues. Obvious reason is tt doesn't load quickly enough and and detecting correct port seem to an issue so if you follow instruction you will see that sulotion is guiding your software to speak with 3party hardware having windows in the middle
good luck
Paulius - Excellent instructions and they work just great.
However....For me it only works one time. By that I mean after I turn everything off and then want to use it another time - it again cannot see the GPS device - and I have to do all of the above again.
Do you know why the settings are not retained? Note; I have unticked the the stop auto managing option already.
Hope you can assist.
Paulius - Excellent instructions and they worked fine but only the first time unfortunately for me.
i.e the next time I want to use tomtom - i have to go through all of the above again as it cannot find the GPS again.
Have you come across this before. Note: I have done exactly everything you have instructed above
Tomtom loses GPS settings
Paulius - Excellent instructions and they worked fine but only the first time unfortunately for me.
i.e the next time I want to use tomtom - i have to go through all of the above again as it cannot find the GPS again.
Have you come across this before. Note: I have done exactly everything you have instructed above
I had the same problem.
Luckily I had a backup of my TomTom installation.
It all comes up to the navigator.cfg file inside the Navigator folder. I copied the old one over and did not enter TomTom's GPS Setup menu anymore.
All I did after flashing was to just pair my BT GPS receiver and start TomTom. One needs to wait 5 seconds or so after the main screen opens, until the GPS is found. Do not try to select the receiver in the settings menu!
This happend on both my devices (BA and UNIVERSAL) after installing a WM6 firmware WITH the GPS Manager in the Settings.
Cheers,
vma
Thanks VMA - I understand.
Did you setup an outgoing port though in Bluetooth?
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hi nsm, sorry it took this long to respond, I didn't know the solution to your problem.
However, after few gliches with my pda's I think I can add to the list of thing to go wrong.
First is WM itself sometimes causes problems - so before you do anything else turn it of and on again - it did happen to me in the middle of london and I come from Lithuania well, it can be good fun navigating through canary warf without gps - aim for tall buildings :-D or away from them.
Second is once you followed my original instruction do not go back to gps settings menu, because after this you will have to start again from begining.
Third - is do allow minute or few for gps to lock onto satellites - especially if you are in doors or between buildings. Once in Crete it was quite hard to find satellite signal because of a mountains and I had clear sky view to one direction - but as you drive especially bigger cars, metal body will block signal.
Fullproof recipe is to have two units, if possible for one of them use bluetooth separate gps module as this will allow you to place both gps unit and pda screen in ideal locations for satellite signal and driver.
Fourth - this is boring and can take a lot of time, but may resolve lots of weird issues. Follow my instructions and then you set your tomtom to use data transfer baud rate 4800, 9600 and etc do try all the options - from low to high rate, this means that every time you'll have to start again instructions from beginning. TT6 on some of my pda's prefers 56700, tt5 - 4800 and so on. give this some time explore all the settings.
And finally if you have stability issues check your pda memory limits - try not to push it to 90%+ on unit or memory car, best is to leave plenty on both, this may cause settings not to be saved and all sorts of bugs.
the practical advice is to keep selling and buying pdas till you find one which will do the job for you, Try ebay , but do check descriptions and guides and most important sellers rating! All pda, mda and nokia simbion phones I tried with enough effort will work but many many of them have issues with stability or are difficult to setup.
Hope this helps.
Good luck
So I picked up an external GPS receiver off ebay. It's the Globalsat BT-359C (http://www.usglobalsat.com/p-214-bt-359c.aspx). Turned it on, everything went fine as far as my fuze finding it. I'd goto add new device, it'd pull up "BT-GPS371D88", i'd select it, put it the four "0" 's, and it'd give me the message "your pocketpc is now connected with BT-GPS371D88". It comes up in the list but under disconnected. So i'm like eh whatever, and setup the outgoing com port to COM0 as per the instructions, and make sure its unsecure.
I go back to devices, highlight BT-GPS371D88, click it. Check off "Serial Port" in select services to use, and save. Then heres where everything goes wrong, I hit connect, and it gives me the following message "Your device did not connect with BT-GPS371D88. The connection failed or the passcode is incorrect." I've been tinkering with it all day, searching various forums to no avail. Even downgraded my 6.5 rom to 6.1 thinking it was maybe incompatible with something so new.
Now i'm stuck, I really want to get it working so i can use it for a trip thats coming up in a few days. Has anyone else had such a problem? is there like a quick fix that i'm over looking, or is it simply not compatible with the fuze? I managed to get it paired up and connected fine to my blackberry curve just to see if the gps unit was defective (did buy it off ebay). Any Ideas guys? Not sure where else to turn now.
Oh yeah btw my current rom that i'm using is
At0mAng Fusion Power V 5.X ROM Series
Windows Mobile 6.1 (Build 21051 1.6.4)
Located @ http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=537501
jimshepp said:
So I picked up an external GPS receiver off ebay. It's the Globalsat BT-359C (http://www.usglobalsat.com/p-214-bt-359c.aspx). Turned it on, everything went fine as far as my fuze finding it. I'd goto add new device, it'd pull up "BT-GPS371D88", i'd select it, put it the four "0" 's, and it'd give me the message "your pocketpc is now connected with BT-GPS371D
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have a BT GPS for my Dell axim x51v, got some trouble too getting it to connect, but eventually did
here are some pointers:
1) Delete all pairings and com port pairings on the device
2) Pair the device (make sure that you put 'request authorization' or something... this ensures that you need to put the 0000 code to connect)
3) you need to set up at outgoing port on your device, to the BT GPS... COM 8 is norm
4) External GPS setting in the Start>Settings tab
hardware port is where you put the outgoing port in (3)
software port is where you put for your GPS software... COM4 is norm
third column where WinMo will manage GPS, say yes
This worked for me:
I have a Hermes (WM6.5) with a holoux bluetooth GPS, but the GPS was not connecting for me properly either. It seems to be a problem with the way WM6.1 pairs with bluetooth devices.
I managed to get mine to work without reflashing by downloading this alternative bluetooth manager:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=353774
Hope this helps.
Not trying to bump up an old thread for no reason, but I figured this info would be helpful for people utilizing searches.
After lots of research and frustration the past week I have gotten my external GPS (USGlobalSat BT-368i) to work with my HTC Fuze! Below are the steps I followed that have worked for me. Note that I still have the phone configured to use the internal GPS if the program is set to "Let windows manage GPS settings".
1. Pair the device using Bluetooth.
2. Under the devices tab select your external gps device, and check the box to use "Serial Port". Then choose Save.
2. Under the Bluetooth settings choose "COM Ports" tab.
3. Choose "New Outgoing Port", and then select your device and click next. Choose your port and preferred "secure" option. Then click Finish. (I have configured mine to use COM0 & Secure Connection)
The device will still show as "Disconnected", and you will not be able to connect it under the Bluetooth manager. It will give you an error saying unable to connect.
To use the external GPS device you can simply select the outgoing port you configured above in your program, and most likely you will use a baud rate of 4800. Once you enable the GPS in the program it should connect itself via Bluetooth to your device and begin using it.
You should also be able to configure it to automatically use your external GPS instead of the internal one under the "External GPS" settings, but my current ROM has the hardware portion of External GPS manager broken @ the moment. Therefore I have not configured this, and cannot confirm it.
Hope this helps someone!